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Garage Door Opener Thinks There's A Blockage
My Stanley Model D1000, Date Code 96176, starts down from either the remote or the door pushbutton in the garage, but then reverses with the blinking light code. This happens whether the obstruction sensor wires are connected or not. The door will go down and stay down if I hold the manual pushbutton doorbell type switch until the door reaches the bottom. If I release the pushbutton anywhere in the travel except the full bottom, the door does its reversal routine.
My gut reaction is that one of the control relays on the printed wiring board has a stuck contact. I beat on the relays with the power off and then reconnected the power. It seemed like the door was ok for one period of travel during which it closed about half-way, but then it went into the obstruction mode again and reversed with the flashing light. The printed wiring board is marked 3528, BM01, date code 9615. The Stanley help center/parts seller is closed until tomorrow when I will price a replacement printed wiring board. Anyone have ideas for anything to try in the interim??? |
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On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 12:08:43 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2015 10:02:26 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: My Stanley Model D1000, Date Code 96176, starts down from either the remote or the door pushbutton in the garage, but then reverses with the blinking light code. This happens whether the obstruction sensor wires are connected or not. The door will go down and stay down if I hold the manual pushbutton doorbell type switch until the door reaches the bottom. If I release the pushbutton anywhere in the travel except the full bottom, the door does its reversal routine. My gut reaction is that one of the control relays on the printed wiring board has a stuck contact. I beat on the relays with the power off and then reconnected the power. It seemed like the door was ok for one period of travel during which it closed about half-way, but then it went into the obstruction mode again and reversed with the flashing light. The printed wiring board is marked 3528, BM01, date code 9615. The Stanley help center/parts seller is closed until tomorrow when I will price a replacement printed wiring board. Anyone have ideas for anything to try in the interim??? Have you cranked up the "down force" adjustment? Try the door without the opener attached to be sure there is no bind in the operation. If it was the optical sensor, holding the button would not over ride it. Like you, I was also thinking of a touchy pot for the motor current limit when the door is closing. What you called down force. The last time I messed with one it was a misaligned photocell for the optical safety sensor at either side of the door at the bottom. I've seen folks drag a garden hose into the garage and it hits the optical safety sensor and knocks it out of alignment. 8-) [8~{} Uncle Door Monster |
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On Sun, 5 Jul 2015 10:35:00 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote: The last time I messed with one it was a misaligned photocell for the optical safety sensor at either side of the door at the bottom. I've seen folks drag a garden hose into the garage and it hits the optical safety sensor and knocks it out of alignment. 8-) +1 Or one sensor went bad (iirc one transmits, other receives) On mine, one sensor has a red light and the other is green when aligned. |
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On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 12:47:45 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2015 10:35:00 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster wrote: The last time I messed with one it was a misaligned photocell for the optical safety sensor at either side of the door at the bottom. I've seen folks drag a garden hose into the garage and it hits the optical safety sensor and knocks it out of alignment. 8-) +1 Or one sensor went bad (iirc one transmits, other receives) On mine, one sensor has a red light and the other is green when aligned. Tell a kid to take a push broom and go sweep out the garage and guess what he's going to hit with the broom every time. O_o [8~{} Uncle Broom Monster |
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On Sun, 5 Jul 2015 11:38:46 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote: On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 12:47:45 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote: On Sun, 5 Jul 2015 10:35:00 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster wrote: The last time I messed with one it was a misaligned photocell for the optical safety sensor at either side of the door at the bottom. I've seen folks drag a garden hose into the garage and it hits the optical safety sensor and knocks it out of alignment. 8-) +1 Or one sensor went bad (iirc one transmits, other receives) On mine, one sensor has a red light and the other is green when aligned. Tell a kid to take a push broom and go sweep out the garage and guess what he's going to hit with the broom every time. O_o [8~{} Uncle Broom Monster BTDT I take the 5th |
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Uncle Monster wrote:
On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 12:08:43 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Sun, 5 Jul 2015 10:02:26 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: My Stanley Model D1000, Date Code 96176, starts down from either the remote or the door pushbutton in the garage, but then reverses with the blinking light code. This happens whether the obstruction sensor wires are connected or not. The door will go down and stay down if I hold the manual pushbutton doorbell type switch until the door reaches the bottom. If I release the pushbutton anywhere in the travel except the full bottom, the door does its reversal routine. My gut reaction is that one of the control relays on the printed wiring board has a stuck contact. I beat on the relays with the power off and then reconnected the power. It seemed like the door was ok for one period of travel during which it closed about half-way, but then it went into the obstruction mode again and reversed with the flashing light. The printed wiring board is marked 3528, BM01, date code 9615. The Stanley help center/parts seller is closed until tomorrow when I will price a replacement printed wiring board. Anyone have ideas for anything to try in the interim??? Have you cranked up the "down force" adjustment? Try the door without the opener attached to be sure there is no bind in the operation. If it was the optical sensor, holding the button would not over ride it. Like you, I was also thinking of a touchy pot for the motor current limit when the door is closing. What you called down force. The last time I messed with one it was a misaligned photocell for the optical safety sensor at either side of the door at the bottom. I've seen folks drag a garden hose into the garage and it hits the optical safety sensor and knocks it out of alignment. 8-) [8~{} Uncle Door Monster Hmm, In that case I'd make sure the door torsion spring is still keeping the door in balance. Over time springs weaken and needs readjustment. BTW, our Genie screw driver opener is DC motor driven and it's all micro-processor controlled. No adjusting pot t all. Push couple buttons moving door up and down and it is all set. |
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Oren wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2015 10:35:00 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster wrote: The last time I messed with one it was a misaligned photocell for the optical safety sensor at either side of the door at the bottom. I've seen folks drag a garden hose into the garage and it hits the optical safety sensor and knocks it out of alignment. 8-) +1 Or one sensor went bad (iirc one transmits, other receives) On mine, one sensor has a red light and the other is green when aligned. Yes. They are IR TX/RX pair. There is a card you can buy from Electronic parts store which detects IR. Very handy item in my tool box. |
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On 7/5/15 1:35 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
Like you, I was also thinking of a touchy pot for the motor current limit when the door is closing. What you called down force. The last time I messed with one it was a misaligned photocell for the optical safety sensor at either side of the door at the bottom. I've seen folks drag a garden hose into the garage and it hits the optical safety sensor and knocks it out of alignment.8-) [8~{} Uncle Door Monster A neighbor's door would act up in cold weather. I thought it was gummy lube or lack of lube, but I couldn't find much drag in the motor, screw, door rollers, or hinges. I turned the force controls up all the way and it made no difference. Then I discovered that the computer sensed RPMs, not motor current. A sort of plastic cup on the motor shaft interrupted a light beam. It was out of place. I slid it back into position. It has worked fine ever since, with the force controls near the minimum. |
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On 7/5/2015 1:35 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
The last time I messed with one it was a misaligned photocell for the optical safety sensor at either side of the door at the bottom. I've seen folks drag a garden hose into the garage and it hits the optical safety sensor and knocks it out of alignment. 8-) [8~{} Uncle Door Monster One time I did see that (sensor out of whack) at parents house. Turns out the wire plug that connects to the sensor was dirty, and needed WD-40. -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On 7/5/2015 1:47 PM, Oren wrote:
On mine, one sensor has a red light and the other is green when aligned. Dumb, when 8% or so of men are red green color blind. -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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"Uncle Monster" wrote in message ... On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 12:08:43 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Sun, 5 Jul 2015 10:02:26 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: My Stanley Model D1000, Date Code 96176, starts down from either the remote or the door pushbutton in the garage, but then reverses with the blinking light code. This happens whether the obstruction sensor wires are connected or not. The door will go down and stay down if I hold the manual pushbutton doorbell type switch until the door reaches the bottom. If I release the pushbutton anywhere in the travel except the full bottom, the door does its reversal routine. My gut reaction is that one of the control relays on the printed wiring board has a stuck contact. I beat on the relays with the power off and then reconnected the power. It seemed like the door was ok for one period of travel during which it closed about half-way, but then it went into the obstruction mode again and reversed with the flashing light. The printed wiring board is marked 3528, BM01, date code 9615. Perhaps you gut is partially right. I am not familiar with garage door openers, however what is seems to be it is time delay that holding in contactor/ relay that energize motor, but this time delay could be mechanical or electronic drops out before completing opining either way this timing circuit need to be repair or replace. The Stanley help center/parts seller is closed until tomorrow when I will price a replacement printed wiring board. Anyone have ideas for anything to try in the interim??? Have you cranked up the "down force" adjustment? Try the door without the opener attached to be sure there is no bind in the operation. If it was the optical sensor, holding the button would not over ride it. Like you, I was also thinking of a touchy pot for the motor current limit when the door is closing. What you called down force. The last time I messed with one it was a misaligned photocell for the optical safety sensor at either side of the door at the bottom. I've seen folks drag a garden hose into the garage and it hits the optical safety sensor and knocks it out of alignment. 8-) [8~{} Uncle Door Monster |
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I took a good look at everything associated with the door. It travels freely up and down and is well-balanced, up vs down force. But, I noted several parts look pretty badly worn, and for $138 + tax I can get a new Chamberlain opener and my wife will be happy knowing she has a brand-new opener. I'll keep some of the parts and the motor as backups for the identical opener that operates my garage door (We have two separate garages, attached to each other with a doorway between the two units).
Thanks to everyone for their suggestions!!!! |
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On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 4:26:45 PM UTC-5, J Burns wrote:
On 7/5/15 1:35 PM, Uncle Monster wrote: Like you, I was also thinking of a touchy pot for the motor current limit when the door is closing. What you called down force. The last time I messed with one it was a misaligned photocell for the optical safety sensor at either side of the door at the bottom. I've seen folks drag a garden hose into the garage and it hits the optical safety sensor and knocks it out of alignment.8-) [8~{} Uncle Door Monster A neighbor's door would act up in cold weather. I thought it was gummy lube or lack of lube, but I couldn't find much drag in the motor, screw, door rollers, or hinges. I turned the force controls up all the way and it made no difference. Then I discovered that the computer sensed RPMs, not motor current. A sort of plastic cup on the motor shaft interrupted a light beam. It was out of place. I slid it back into position. It has worked fine ever since, with the force controls near the minimum. What happened to the good old garage door openers that would crush a dumb kid when he lay under the closing door? Those worked trouble free most of the time. Now with all the safety gadgets that violate Darwin's Law, garage door openers are fuxored up half the time. o_O [8~{} Uncle Mean Monster |
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On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 3:28:12 PM UTC-5, Tony Hwang wrote:
Oren wrote: On Sun, 5 Jul 2015 10:35:00 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster wrote: The last time I messed with one it was a misaligned photocell for the optical safety sensor at either side of the door at the bottom. I've seen folks drag a garden hose into the garage and it hits the optical safety sensor and knocks it out of alignment. 8-) +1 Or one sensor went bad (iirc one transmits, other receives) On mine, one sensor has a red light and the other is green when aligned. Yes. They are IR TX/RX pair. There is a card you can buy from Electronic parts store which detects IR. Very handy item in my tool box. I got one from MCM Electronics more than 30 years ago and it's probably in my electronics toolbox somewhere but I doubt it still works because I believe the test area degrades over time. ^_^ http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/72-6772 [8~{} Uncle IR Monster |
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The photocell receiver and light source seem to be fine, the indicator light on the receiver is lit and goes out when something blocks the line of sight between the source and the receiver.
I just bought a Chamberlain unit at Home Despot and my son is coming over tomorrow morning and we will put the new opener in service. My wife is happy because she is getting a new opener, and that makes life so much betterg. |
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