"sms" wrote in message
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On 7/4/2015 3:07 PM, taxed and spent wrote:
"Uncle Monster" wrote in message
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On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 10:22:07 AM UTC-5, sms wrote:
Why can't retail businesses just do what they are supposed to do: sell
stuff to people that want to buy stuff. Keep politics out of it. Sell
to
anyone whose money is green.

A hardware store in Tennessee first put up a sign telling gays that
they
weren't allowed, then took that sign down and put up a weasel-worded
sign telling evangelicals that they weren't welcome.

The first sign was pretty blunt, "No Gays Allowed." Not subtle, but
gays
would just find another place to shop. The new sign is: "We reserve the
right to refuse service to anyone who would violate our rights of
freedom of speech and freedom of religion." That sign is intended to
keep radical fundamentalist evangelicals out of his store.

I work in San Francisco. I routinely see evangelicals trying to push
their beliefs and religion onto others. Conversely, there are a lot of
gays in San Francisco but they don't harass people and try to convince
them to become gay.

If the owner doesn't want gays in his store then he should have kept
the
original sign. Gays would just go to another store. Now he is offending
evangelicals who pride themselves on violating other people's freedom
of
speech and freedom of religion.

I knew the country was going to Hell when they took God out of the
hardware stores. Our country has lost its way. O_o


God's name is often still invoked by those who buy hammers.

The founders never put anything into the constitution regarding hardware
stores and gays. If they had intended for hardware store owners to be
required to serve gays then they would have explicitly stated that in the
constitution.

But they did: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom
of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 1:09:10 AM UTC-4, taxed and spent wrote:
"sms" wrote in message
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On 7/4/2015 3:07 PM, taxed and spent wrote:
"Uncle Monster" wrote in message
...
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 10:22:07 AM UTC-5, sms wrote:
Why can't retail businesses just do what they are supposed to do: sell
stuff to people that want to buy stuff. Keep politics out of it. Sell
to
anyone whose money is green.

A hardware store in Tennessee first put up a sign telling gays that
they
weren't allowed, then took that sign down and put up a weasel-worded
sign telling evangelicals that they weren't welcome.

The first sign was pretty blunt, "No Gays Allowed." Not subtle, but
gays
would just find another place to shop. The new sign is: "We reserve the
right to refuse service to anyone who would violate our rights of
freedom of speech and freedom of religion." That sign is intended to
keep radical fundamentalist evangelicals out of his store.

I work in San Francisco. I routinely see evangelicals trying to push
their beliefs and religion onto others. Conversely, there are a lot of
gays in San Francisco but they don't harass people and try to convince
them to become gay.

If the owner doesn't want gays in his store then he should have kept
the
original sign. Gays would just go to another store. Now he is offending
evangelicals who pride themselves on violating other people's freedom
of
speech and freedom of religion.

I knew the country was going to Hell when they took God out of the
hardware stores. Our country has lost its way. O_o


God's name is often still invoked by those who buy hammers.

The founders never put anything into the constitution regarding hardware
stores and gays. If they had intended for hardware store owners to be
required to serve gays then they would have explicitly stated that in the
constitution.

But they did: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom
of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

A hardware store is Congress now? And even at that, the first amendment
is about freedom of speech and religion, not discrimination against gays.

"trader_4" wrote in message
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On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 1:09:10 AM UTC-4, taxed and spent wrote:
"sms" wrote in message
...
On 7/4/2015 3:07 PM, taxed and spent wrote:
"Uncle Monster" wrote in message
...
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 10:22:07 AM UTC-5, sms wrote:
Why can't retail businesses just do what they are supposed to do:
sell
stuff to people that want to buy stuff. Keep politics out of it.
Sell
to
anyone whose money is green.

A hardware store in Tennessee first put up a sign telling gays that
they
weren't allowed, then took that sign down and put up a weasel-worded
sign telling evangelicals that they weren't welcome.

The first sign was pretty blunt, "No Gays Allowed." Not subtle, but
gays
would just find another place to shop. The new sign is: "We reserve
the
right to refuse service to anyone who would violate our rights of
freedom of speech and freedom of religion." That sign is intended to
keep radical fundamentalist evangelicals out of his store.

I work in San Francisco. I routinely see evangelicals trying to push
their beliefs and religion onto others. Conversely, there are a lot
of
gays in San Francisco but they don't harass people and try to
convince
them to become gay.

If the owner doesn't want gays in his store then he should have kept
the
original sign. Gays would just go to another store. Now he is
offending
evangelicals who pride themselves on violating other people's
freedom
of
speech and freedom of religion.

I knew the country was going to Hell when they took God out of the
hardware stores. Our country has lost its way. O_o


God's name is often still invoked by those who buy hammers.

The founders never put anything into the constitution regarding
hardware
stores and gays. If they had intended for hardware store owners to be
required to serve gays then they would have explicitly stated that in
the
constitution.

But they did: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the
freedom
of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

A hardware store is Congress now? And even at that, the first amendment
is about freedom of speech and religion, not discrimination against gays.

It is about freedom of religion, not freedom of worship. And some people's
activities are considered sinful. And it is not for you to say otherwise to
anyone. That is the freedom part.