Hardware Stores Enter Politics, Turning Away Gays, Turning Away Evangelicals
 

Why can't retail businesses just do what they are supposed to do: sell
stuff to people that want to buy stuff. Keep politics out of it. Sell to
anyone whose money is green.

A hardware store in Tennessee first put up a sign telling gays that they
weren't allowed, then took that sign down and put up a weasel-worded
sign telling evangelicals that they weren't welcome.

The first sign was pretty blunt, "No Gays Allowed." Not subtle, but gays
would just find another place to shop. The new sign is: "We reserve the
right to refuse service to anyone who would violate our rights of
freedom of speech and freedom of religion." That sign is intended to
keep radical fundamentalist evangelicals out of his store.

I work in San Francisco. I routinely see evangelicals trying to push
their beliefs and religion onto others. Conversely, there are a lot of
gays in San Francisco but they don't harass people and try to convince
them to become gay.

If the owner doesn't want gays in his store then he should have kept the
original sign. Gays would just go to another store. Now he is offending
evangelicals who pride themselves on violating other people's freedom of
speech and freedom of religion.

Hardware Stores Enter Politics, Turning Away Gays, Turning Away Evangelicals
 

On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 11:22:07 AM UTC-4, sms wrote:
Why can't retail businesses just do what they are supposed to do: sell
stuff to people that want to buy stuff. Keep politics out of it. Sell to
anyone whose money is green.

A hardware store in Tennessee first put up a sign telling gays that they
weren't allowed, then took that sign down and put up a weasel-worded
sign telling evangelicals that they weren't welcome.

The first sign was pretty blunt, "No Gays Allowed." Not subtle, but gays
would just find another place to shop. The new sign is: "We reserve the
right to refuse service to anyone who would violate our rights of
freedom of speech and freedom of religion." That sign is intended to
keep radical fundamentalist evangelicals out of his store.


I don't see how that could be interpreted as intending to apply
to Christian evangelicals, unless they said something more.
It looks almost certainly targeted at gays following the SC
decision. They just took down the more blatant one and replaced
it with this more subtle one.




I work in San Francisco. I routinely see evangelicals trying to push
their beliefs and religion onto others. Conversely, there are a lot of
gays in San Francisco but they don't harass people and try to convince
them to become gay.

If the owner doesn't want gays in his store then he should have kept the
original sign. Gays would just go to another store. Now he is offending
evangelicals who pride themselves on violating other people's freedom of
speech and freedom of religion.

More likely the gays would be going to court to force him to
take it down. So it's OK to offend gays, but not OK to offend
evangelicals? Go figure. Inquiring minds want to know how
it affects his business or him personally if either come into
his stores. How would he even know if someone is gay, an evangelical
or anything else?

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On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 12:10:05 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:

Here's how I think all this should be handled. If you want
to put those kinds of signs at your business, then I think
it should be your right. It's your business. That includes
putting up a sign that blacks aren't welcome, if you choose.
Let the free market solve it. Any store that puts up such
signs can expect to lose a lot of business. I wouldn't
patronize a business that put up any of those kinds of signs,
nor would the majority of people. The business can also expect
protesters, lots of negative press, disrupting their business.

It's a different situation today than 50 years ago when
you had widespread discrimination against blacks and in
the Jim Crow south you had most places discriminating.
Then I can see a justification for requiring businesses
to serve everyone. Today, the situation has totally
changed. If allowed to discriminate, very few businesses
are going to be dumb enough to do it and those that are
will be ostracized.

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On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 08:22:02 -0700, sms
wrote:

Why can't retail businesses just do what they are supposed to do: sell
stuff to people that want to buy stuff. Keep politics out of it. Sell to
anyone whose money is green.

A hardware store in Tennessee first put up a sign telling gays that they
weren't allowed, then took that sign down and put up a weasel-worded
sign telling evangelicals that they weren't welcome.

The first sign was pretty blunt, "No Gays Allowed." Not subtle, but gays
would just find another place to shop. The new sign is: "We reserve the
right to refuse service to anyone who would violate our rights of
freedom of speech and freedom of religion." That sign is intended to
keep radical fundamentalist evangelicals out of his store.
Snip

Bull ****! The second sign is intended to keep Democrats out. They are
the ones that constantly want to violate the rights of freedom of
speech and freedom of religion for anyone that disagrees with them.

Hardware Stores Enter Politics, Turning Away Gays, Turning Away Evangelicals
 

In article ,
sms wrote:

Why can't retail businesses just do what they are supposed to do: sell
stuff to people that want to buy stuff. Keep politics out of it. Sell to
anyone whose money is green.

A hardware store in Tennessee first put up a sign telling gays that they
weren't allowed, then took that sign down and put up a weasel-worded
sign telling evangelicals that they weren't welcome.

The first sign was pretty blunt, "No Gays Allowed." Not subtle, but gays
would just find another place to shop. The new sign is: "We reserve the
right to refuse service to anyone who would violate our rights of
freedom of speech and freedom of religion." That sign is intended to
keep radical fundamentalist evangelicals out of his store.

I work in San Francisco. I routinely see evangelicals trying to push
their beliefs and religion onto others. Conversely, there are a lot of
gays in San Francisco but they don't harass people and try to convince
them to become gay.

If the owner doesn't want gays in his store then he should have kept the
original sign. Gays would just go to another store. Now he is offending
evangelicals who pride themselves on violating other people's freedom of
speech and freedom of religion.

how is this store owner going to determine who is gay? of course gays
could shop elsewhere, but a better solution is to shop for LOTs of
stuff, bring it to the cashier, let them ring it up and then announce
"what is the gay discount here". smother the shop in business that
generates no income

or

just wander the store and when Pastor John enters and shops ask him
loudly if his AIDs treatments are working

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"Malcom Mal Reynolds" wrote in message
...
In article ,
sms wrote:

Why can't retail businesses just do what they are supposed to do: sell
stuff to people that want to buy stuff. Keep politics out of it. Sell to
anyone whose money is green.

A hardware store in Tennessee first put up a sign telling gays that they
weren't allowed, then took that sign down and put up a weasel-worded
sign telling evangelicals that they weren't welcome.

The first sign was pretty blunt, "No Gays Allowed." Not subtle, but gays
would just find another place to shop. The new sign is: "We reserve the
right to refuse service to anyone who would violate our rights of
freedom of speech and freedom of religion." That sign is intended to
keep radical fundamentalist evangelicals out of his store.

I work in San Francisco. I routinely see evangelicals trying to push
their beliefs and religion onto others. Conversely, there are a lot of
gays in San Francisco but they don't harass people and try to convince
them to become gay.

If the owner doesn't want gays in his store then he should have kept the
original sign. Gays would just go to another store. Now he is offending
evangelicals who pride themselves on violating other people's freedom of
speech and freedom of religion.

how is this store owner going to determine who is gay? of course gays
could shop elsewhere, but a better solution is to shop for LOTs of
stuff, bring it to the cashier, let them ring it up and then announce
"what is the gay discount here". smother the shop in business that
generates no income

or

just wander the store and when Pastor John enters and shops ask him
loudly if his AIDs treatments are working

or why not just do as the sign says - allow gays that don't try to ram stuff
down everyone's throat.

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On 7/4/2015 1:24 PM, taxed and spent wrote:

snip

or why not just do as the sign says - allow gays that don't try to ram stuff
down everyone's throat.

Two gays buying a cake, or buying roofing paper, or a hammer, are not
violating anyone's freedom of speech or freedom of religion. But the
store owner is entirely within his rights to not sell to gays since
there is no law in Tennessee that forbids that type of discrimination.

But there _are_ laws preventing discrimination based on religion and his
new sign comes close to this type of discrimination. The new sign is
offensive to those people who routinely annoy others, trying to convert
them to their own belief system, like the owner of the store.

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On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 10:22:07 AM UTC-5, sms wrote:
Why can't retail businesses just do what they are supposed to do: sell
stuff to people that want to buy stuff. Keep politics out of it. Sell to
anyone whose money is green.

A hardware store in Tennessee first put up a sign telling gays that they
weren't allowed, then took that sign down and put up a weasel-worded
sign telling evangelicals that they weren't welcome.

The first sign was pretty blunt, "No Gays Allowed." Not subtle, but gays
would just find another place to shop. The new sign is: "We reserve the
right to refuse service to anyone who would violate our rights of
freedom of speech and freedom of religion." That sign is intended to
keep radical fundamentalist evangelicals out of his store.

I work in San Francisco. I routinely see evangelicals trying to push
their beliefs and religion onto others. Conversely, there are a lot of
gays in San Francisco but they don't harass people and try to convince
them to become gay.

If the owner doesn't want gays in his store then he should have kept the
original sign. Gays would just go to another store. Now he is offending
evangelicals who pride themselves on violating other people's freedom of
speech and freedom of religion.

I knew the country was going to Hell when they took God out of the hardware stores. Our country has lost its way. O_o

[8~{} Uncle Hardware Monster

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On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 4:08:52 PM UTC-5, Sum Ting-Wong wrote:
On 7/4/2015 2:19 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:


Bull ****! The second sign is intended to keep Democrats out. They are
the ones that constantly want to violate the rights of freedom of
speech and freedom of religion for anyone that disagrees with them.


How bout those bible-thumpin republicans that want to eliminate your right to an abortion?

I think Democrats should be required to have abortions. That way, the good moral religious Republican gals won't have abortions and the Democrats will eventually die out. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Abortion Monster

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"Uncle Monster" wrote in message
...
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 10:22:07 AM UTC-5, sms wrote:
Why can't retail businesses just do what they are supposed to do: sell
stuff to people that want to buy stuff. Keep politics out of it. Sell to
anyone whose money is green.

A hardware store in Tennessee first put up a sign telling gays that they
weren't allowed, then took that sign down and put up a weasel-worded
sign telling evangelicals that they weren't welcome.

The first sign was pretty blunt, "No Gays Allowed." Not subtle, but gays
would just find another place to shop. The new sign is: "We reserve the
right to refuse service to anyone who would violate our rights of
freedom of speech and freedom of religion." That sign is intended to
keep radical fundamentalist evangelicals out of his store.

I work in San Francisco. I routinely see evangelicals trying to push
their beliefs and religion onto others. Conversely, there are a lot of
gays in San Francisco but they don't harass people and try to convince
them to become gay.

If the owner doesn't want gays in his store then he should have kept the
original sign. Gays would just go to another store. Now he is offending
evangelicals who pride themselves on violating other people's freedom of
speech and freedom of religion.

I knew the country was going to Hell when they took God out of the
hardware stores. Our country has lost its way. O_o


God's name is often still invoked by those who buy hammers.

Hardware Stores Enter Politics, Turning Away Gays, Turning AwayEvangelicals
 

On 7/4/2015 2:19 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:


Bull ****! The second sign is intended to keep Democrats out. They are
the ones that constantly want to violate the rights of freedom of
speech and freedom of religion for anyone that disagrees with them.


How bout those bible-thumpin republicans that want to eliminate your right to an abortion?

Hardware Stores Enter Politics, Turning Away Gays, Turning Away Evangelicals
 

On Sat, 4 Jul 2015 17:08:40 -0500, Sum Ting-Wong
wrote:

On 7/4/2015 2:19 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:


Bull ****! The second sign is intended to keep Democrats out. They are
the ones that constantly want to violate the rights of freedom of
speech and freedom of religion for anyone that disagrees with them.


How bout those bible-thumpin republicans that want to eliminate your right to an abortion?

Do you mean "How bout those bible-thumpin republicans that want to
eliminate your right to murder?"

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Uncle Monster wrote:
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 4:08:52 PM UTC-5, Sum Ting-Wong wrote:
On 7/4/2015 2:19 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:


Bull ****! The second sign is intended to keep Democrats out. They
are the ones that constantly want to violate the rights of freedom
of speech and freedom of religion for anyone that disagrees with
them.


How bout those bible-thumpin republicans that want to eliminate your
right to an abortion?

I think Democrats should be required to have abortions. That way, the
good moral religious Republican gals won't have abortions and the
Democrats will eventually die out. ^_^

Right!! There's nothing better than those anti-abortion righties. They are so
morally superior!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1953136.html

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On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 5:07:28 PM UTC-5, taxed and spent wrote:
"Uncle Monster" wrote in message
...
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 10:22:07 AM UTC-5, sms wrote:
Why can't retail businesses just do what they are supposed to do: sell
stuff to people that want to buy stuff. Keep politics out of it. Sell to
anyone whose money is green.

A hardware store in Tennessee first put up a sign telling gays that they
weren't allowed, then took that sign down and put up a weasel-worded
sign telling evangelicals that they weren't welcome.

The first sign was pretty blunt, "No Gays Allowed." Not subtle, but gays
would just find another place to shop. The new sign is: "We reserve the
right to refuse service to anyone who would violate our rights of
freedom of speech and freedom of religion." That sign is intended to
keep radical fundamentalist evangelicals out of his store.

I work in San Francisco. I routinely see evangelicals trying to push
their beliefs and religion onto others. Conversely, there are a lot of
gays in San Francisco but they don't harass people and try to convince
them to become gay.

If the owner doesn't want gays in his store then he should have kept the
original sign. Gays would just go to another store. Now he is offending
evangelicals who pride themselves on violating other people's freedom of
speech and freedom of religion.

I knew the country was going to Hell when they took God out of the
hardware stores. Our country has lost its way. O_o


God's name is often still invoked by those who buy hammers.

I know what you mean. Even children want to be the God Thor and wield a hammer just as he does. One side effect is the injuries suffered by children pretending to be the God Thor. Some kids have attached bungee cords in an attempt to make their hammer return to their hand after they throw it. Of course the hammer usually flies back and hits the kid in the head. ER doctors are referring to the resulting injury as "Hammer Head". Parents are beside themselves about the injuries and damage to property caused by children playing God. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Hammer Monster

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On 7/4/2015 7:04 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:



How bout those bible-thumpin republicans that want to eliminate your right to an abortion?

Do you mean "How bout those bible-thumpin republicans that want to
eliminate your right to murder?"


Paul Harvey talked about "abortion after the fact". Unwanted baby was
born, but neglected by parent(s) and thus suffers and dies.

Let's start with better sex education.

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On 7/4/2015 5:07 PM, taxed and spent wrote:
"Uncle Monster" wrote in message
...
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 10:22:07 AM UTC-5, sms wrote:
Why can't retail businesses just do what they are supposed to do: sell
stuff to people that want to buy stuff. Keep politics out of it. Sell to
anyone whose money is green.

A hardware store in Tennessee first put up a sign telling gays that they
weren't allowed, then took that sign down and put up a weasel-worded
sign telling evangelicals that they weren't welcome.

The first sign was pretty blunt, "No Gays Allowed." Not subtle, but gays
would just find another place to shop. The new sign is: "We reserve the
right to refuse service to anyone who would violate our rights of
freedom of speech and freedom of religion." That sign is intended to
keep radical fundamentalist evangelicals out of his store.

I work in San Francisco. I routinely see evangelicals trying to push
their beliefs and religion onto others. Conversely, there are a lot of
gays in San Francisco but they don't harass people and try to convince
them to become gay.

If the owner doesn't want gays in his store then he should have kept the
original sign. Gays would just go to another store. Now he is offending
evangelicals who pride themselves on violating other people's freedom of
speech and freedom of religion.

I knew the country was going to Hell when they took God out of the
hardware stores. Our country has lost its way. O_o


God's name is often still invoked by those who buy hammers.



I've hear the same thing said of people who stump their toes.

--
Maggie

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On 7/4/2015 6:27 PM, Bob F wrote:
Uncle Monster wrote:
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 4:08:52 PM UTC-5, Sum Ting-Wong wrote:
On 7/4/2015 2:19 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:


Bull ****! The second sign is intended to keep Democrats out. They
are the ones that constantly want to violate the rights of freedom
of speech and freedom of religion for anyone that disagrees with
them.


How bout those bible-thumpin republicans that want to eliminate your
right to an abortion?

I think Democrats should be required to have abortions. That way, the
good moral religious Republican gals won't have abortions and the
Democrats will eventually die out. ^_^

Right!! There's nothing better than those anti-abortion righties. They are so
morally superior!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1953136.html



Morally superior than whom?

--
Maggie

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On 7/4/2015 6:44 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 5:07:28 PM UTC-5, taxed and spent wrote:
"Uncle Monster" wrote in message
...
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 10:22:07 AM UTC-5, sms wrote:
Why can't retail businesses just do what they are supposed to do: sell
stuff to people that want to buy stuff. Keep politics out of it. Sell to
anyone whose money is green.

A hardware store in Tennessee first put up a sign telling gays that they
weren't allowed, then took that sign down and put up a weasel-worded
sign telling evangelicals that they weren't welcome.

The first sign was pretty blunt, "No Gays Allowed." Not subtle, but gays
would just find another place to shop. The new sign is: "We reserve the
right to refuse service to anyone who would violate our rights of
freedom of speech and freedom of religion." That sign is intended to
keep radical fundamentalist evangelicals out of his store.

I work in San Francisco. I routinely see evangelicals trying to push
their beliefs and religion onto others. Conversely, there are a lot of
gays in San Francisco but they don't harass people and try to convince
them to become gay.

If the owner doesn't want gays in his store then he should have kept the
original sign. Gays would just go to another store. Now he is offending
evangelicals who pride themselves on violating other people's freedom of
speech and freedom of religion.

I knew the country was going to Hell when they took God out of the
hardware stores. Our country has lost its way. O_o


God's name is often still invoked by those who buy hammers.

I know what you mean. Even children want to be the God Thor and wield a hammer just as he does. One side effect is the injuries suffered by children pretending to be the God Thor. Some kids have attached bungee cords in an attempt to make their hammer return to their hand after they throw it. Of course the hammer usually flies back and hits the kid in the head. ER doctors are referring to the resulting injury as "Hammer Head". Parents are beside themselves about the injuries and damage to property caused by children playing God. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Hammer Monster


I feel the same way when people try to play God.

--
Maggie

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On 7/4/2015 7:08 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 7/4/2015 7:04 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:



How bout those bible-thumpin republicans that want to eliminate your
right to an abortion?

Do you mean "How bout those bible-thumpin republicans that want to
eliminate your right to murder?"


Paul Harvey talked about "abortion after the fact". Unwanted baby was
born, but neglected by parent(s) and thus suffers and dies.

Let's start with better sex education.

Maybe it'd be easier to empty the ocean?


--
Maggie

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On 7/4/2015 3:07 PM, taxed and spent wrote:
"Uncle Monster" wrote in message
...
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 10:22:07 AM UTC-5, sms wrote:
Why can't retail businesses just do what they are supposed to do: sell
stuff to people that want to buy stuff. Keep politics out of it. Sell to
anyone whose money is green.

A hardware store in Tennessee first put up a sign telling gays that they
weren't allowed, then took that sign down and put up a weasel-worded
sign telling evangelicals that they weren't welcome.

The first sign was pretty blunt, "No Gays Allowed." Not subtle, but gays
would just find another place to shop. The new sign is: "We reserve the
right to refuse service to anyone who would violate our rights of
freedom of speech and freedom of religion." That sign is intended to
keep radical fundamentalist evangelicals out of his store.

I work in San Francisco. I routinely see evangelicals trying to push
their beliefs and religion onto others. Conversely, there are a lot of
gays in San Francisco but they don't harass people and try to convince
them to become gay.

If the owner doesn't want gays in his store then he should have kept the
original sign. Gays would just go to another store. Now he is offending
evangelicals who pride themselves on violating other people's freedom of
speech and freedom of religion.

I knew the country was going to Hell when they took God out of the
hardware stores. Our country has lost its way. O_o


God's name is often still invoked by those who buy hammers.

The founders never put anything into the constitution regarding hardware
stores and gays. If they had intended for hardware store owners to be
required to serve gays then they would have explicitly stated that in
the constitution.

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"sms" wrote in message
...
On 7/4/2015 3:07 PM, taxed and spent wrote:
"Uncle Monster" wrote in message
...
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 10:22:07 AM UTC-5, sms wrote:
Why can't retail businesses just do what they are supposed to do: sell
stuff to people that want to buy stuff. Keep politics out of it. Sell
to
anyone whose money is green.

A hardware store in Tennessee first put up a sign telling gays that
they
weren't allowed, then took that sign down and put up a weasel-worded
sign telling evangelicals that they weren't welcome.

The first sign was pretty blunt, "No Gays Allowed." Not subtle, but
gays
would just find another place to shop. The new sign is: "We reserve the
right to refuse service to anyone who would violate our rights of
freedom of speech and freedom of religion." That sign is intended to
keep radical fundamentalist evangelicals out of his store.

I work in San Francisco. I routinely see evangelicals trying to push
their beliefs and religion onto others. Conversely, there are a lot of
gays in San Francisco but they don't harass people and try to convince
them to become gay.

If the owner doesn't want gays in his store then he should have kept
the
original sign. Gays would just go to another store. Now he is offending
evangelicals who pride themselves on violating other people's freedom
of
speech and freedom of religion.

I knew the country was going to Hell when they took God out of the
hardware stores. Our country has lost its way. O_o


God's name is often still invoked by those who buy hammers.

The founders never put anything into the constitution regarding hardware
stores and gays. If they had intended for hardware store owners to be
required to serve gays then they would have explicitly stated that in the
constitution.

But they did: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom
of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 6:27:14 PM UTC-5, Bob F wrote:
Uncle Monster wrote:
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 4:08:52 PM UTC-5, Sum Ting-Wong wrote:
On 7/4/2015 2:19 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:


Bull ****! The second sign is intended to keep Democrats out. They
are the ones that constantly want to violate the rights of freedom
of speech and freedom of religion for anyone that disagrees with
them.


How bout those bible-thumpin republicans that want to eliminate your
right to an abortion?

I think Democrats should be required to have abortions. That way, the
good moral religious Republican gals won't have abortions and the
Democrats will eventually die out. ^_^

Right!! There's nothing better than those anti-abortion righties. They are so
morally superior!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1953136.html

Ya see, his mistress was a Democrat and he didn't want some half-breed child in his life to confuse things. He had no choice. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Abortion Monster

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On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 11:42:14 PM UTC-5, sms wrote:
On 7/4/2015 3:07 PM, taxed and spent wrote:
"Uncle Monster" wrote in message
...
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 10:22:07 AM UTC-5, sms wrote:
Why can't retail businesses just do what they are supposed to do: sell
stuff to people that want to buy stuff. Keep politics out of it. Sell to
anyone whose money is green.

A hardware store in Tennessee first put up a sign telling gays that they
weren't allowed, then took that sign down and put up a weasel-worded
sign telling evangelicals that they weren't welcome.

The first sign was pretty blunt, "No Gays Allowed." Not subtle, but gays
would just find another place to shop. The new sign is: "We reserve the
right to refuse service to anyone who would violate our rights of
freedom of speech and freedom of religion." That sign is intended to
keep radical fundamentalist evangelicals out of his store.

I work in San Francisco. I routinely see evangelicals trying to push
their beliefs and religion onto others. Conversely, there are a lot of
gays in San Francisco but they don't harass people and try to convince
them to become gay.

If the owner doesn't want gays in his store then he should have kept the
original sign. Gays would just go to another store. Now he is offending
evangelicals who pride themselves on violating other people's freedom of
speech and freedom of religion.

I knew the country was going to Hell when they took God out of the
hardware stores. Our country has lost its way. O_o


God's name is often still invoked by those who buy hammers.

The founders never put anything into the constitution regarding hardware
stores and gays. If they had intended for hardware store owners to be
required to serve gays then they would have explicitly stated that in
the constitution.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if research showed that some of the Founders were actually homosexual? Instead of Founding Fathers, we can call them Founding Fairies. I mean, look at those hairdos in the paintings of those guys. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Founding Monster

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I do wonder what donald trump would put on every door to his empire??

no hispanics, no illegals, no blacks, nogays???

donald the idiot is a outed bigot. probably bigoted to everyone.............

Hardware Stores Enter Politics, Turning Away Gays, Turning AwayEvangelicals
 

On 7/4/2015 5:06 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:

I knew the country was going to Hell when they took God out of the hardware stores. Our country has lost its way. O_o

[8~{} Uncle Hardware Monster


Truly, it is time for a revival. You get the sound
system, I'll rent a tent, and we'll have some good
Bible preaching at the Home Depot. They won't mind.
Heck, do em some good.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
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Hardware Stores Enter Politics, Turning Away Gays, Turning Away Evangelicals
 

On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 1:09:10 AM UTC-4, taxed and spent wrote:
"sms" wrote in message
...
On 7/4/2015 3:07 PM, taxed and spent wrote:
"Uncle Monster" wrote in message
...
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 10:22:07 AM UTC-5, sms wrote:
Why can't retail businesses just do what they are supposed to do: sell
stuff to people that want to buy stuff. Keep politics out of it. Sell
to
anyone whose money is green.

A hardware store in Tennessee first put up a sign telling gays that
they
weren't allowed, then took that sign down and put up a weasel-worded
sign telling evangelicals that they weren't welcome.

The first sign was pretty blunt, "No Gays Allowed." Not subtle, but
gays
would just find another place to shop. The new sign is: "We reserve the
right to refuse service to anyone who would violate our rights of
freedom of speech and freedom of religion." That sign is intended to
keep radical fundamentalist evangelicals out of his store.

I work in San Francisco. I routinely see evangelicals trying to push
their beliefs and religion onto others. Conversely, there are a lot of
gays in San Francisco but they don't harass people and try to convince
them to become gay.

If the owner doesn't want gays in his store then he should have kept
the
original sign. Gays would just go to another store. Now he is offending
evangelicals who pride themselves on violating other people's freedom
of
speech and freedom of religion.

I knew the country was going to Hell when they took God out of the
hardware stores. Our country has lost its way. O_o


God's name is often still invoked by those who buy hammers.

The founders never put anything into the constitution regarding hardware
stores and gays. If they had intended for hardware store owners to be
required to serve gays then they would have explicitly stated that in the
constitution.

But they did: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom
of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

A hardware store is Congress now? And even at that, the first amendment
is about freedom of speech and religion, not discrimination against gays.

Hardware Stores Enter Politics, Turning Away Gays, Turning Away Evangelicals
 

"trader_4" wrote in message
...
On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 1:09:10 AM UTC-4, taxed and spent wrote:
"sms" wrote in message
...
On 7/4/2015 3:07 PM, taxed and spent wrote:
"Uncle Monster" wrote in message
...
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 10:22:07 AM UTC-5, sms wrote:
Why can't retail businesses just do what they are supposed to do:
sell
stuff to people that want to buy stuff. Keep politics out of it.
Sell
to
anyone whose money is green.

A hardware store in Tennessee first put up a sign telling gays that
they
weren't allowed, then took that sign down and put up a weasel-worded
sign telling evangelicals that they weren't welcome.

The first sign was pretty blunt, "No Gays Allowed." Not subtle, but
gays
would just find another place to shop. The new sign is: "We reserve
the
right to refuse service to anyone who would violate our rights of
freedom of speech and freedom of religion." That sign is intended to
keep radical fundamentalist evangelicals out of his store.

I work in San Francisco. I routinely see evangelicals trying to push
their beliefs and religion onto others. Conversely, there are a lot
of
gays in San Francisco but they don't harass people and try to
convince
them to become gay.

If the owner doesn't want gays in his store then he should have kept
the
original sign. Gays would just go to another store. Now he is
offending
evangelicals who pride themselves on violating other people's
freedom
of
speech and freedom of religion.

I knew the country was going to Hell when they took God out of the
hardware stores. Our country has lost its way. O_o


God's name is often still invoked by those who buy hammers.

The founders never put anything into the constitution regarding
hardware
stores and gays. If they had intended for hardware store owners to be
required to serve gays then they would have explicitly stated that in
the
constitution.

But they did: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the
freedom
of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

A hardware store is Congress now? And even at that, the first amendment
is about freedom of speech and religion, not discrimination against gays.

It is about freedom of religion, not freedom of worship. And some people's
activities are considered sinful. And it is not for you to say otherwise to
anyone. That is the freedom part.

Hardware Stores Enter Politics, Turning Away Gays, Turning Away Evangelicals
 

Uncle Monster wrote:
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 6:27:14 PM UTC-5, Bob F wrote:
Uncle Monster wrote:
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 4:08:52 PM UTC-5, Sum Ting-Wong wrote:
On 7/4/2015 2:19 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:


Bull ****! The second sign is intended to keep Democrats out. They
are the ones that constantly want to violate the rights of freedom
of speech and freedom of religion for anyone that disagrees with
them.


How bout those bible-thumpin republicans that want to eliminate
your right to an abortion?

I think Democrats should be required to have abortions. That way,
the good moral religious Republican gals won't have abortions and
the Democrats will eventually die out. ^_^

Right!! There's nothing better than those anti-abortion righties.
They are so morally superior!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1953136.html

Ya see, his mistress was a Democrat and he didn't want some
half-breed child in his life to confuse things. He had no choice. o_O

Yes! That could be the way righties "think". It's OK if it's to your advantage,
but not if someone else wants to do it.

Hardware Stores Enter Politics, Turning Away Gays, Turning Away Evangelicals
 

On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 10:56:49 AM UTC-5, Bob F wrote:
Uncle Monster wrote:
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 6:27:14 PM UTC-5, Bob F wrote:
Uncle Monster wrote:
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 4:08:52 PM UTC-5, Sum Ting-Wong wrote:
On 7/4/2015 2:19 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:


Bull ****! The second sign is intended to keep Democrats out. They
are the ones that constantly want to violate the rights of freedom
of speech and freedom of religion for anyone that disagrees with
them.


How bout those bible-thumpin republicans that want to eliminate
your right to an abortion?

I think Democrats should be required to have abortions. That way,
the good moral religious Republican gals won't have abortions and
the Democrats will eventually die out. ^_^

Right!! There's nothing better than those anti-abortion righties.
They are so morally superior!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1953136.html

Ya see, his mistress was a Democrat and he didn't want some
half-breed child in his life to confuse things. He had no choice. o_O

Yes! That could be the way righties "think". It's OK if it's to your advantage,
but not if someone else wants to do it.

That's the way politicians think. It doesn't matter which way they're threaded. Do you know how to tell when a politician is lying? He/she/it is standing in front of TV cameras. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Political Monster

Hardware Stores Enter Politics, Turning Away Gays, Turning Away Evangelicals
 

In article ,
"taxed and spent" wrote:

"Malcom Mal Reynolds" wrote in message
...
In article ,
sms wrote:

Why can't retail businesses just do what they are supposed to do: sell
stuff to people that want to buy stuff. Keep politics out of it. Sell to
anyone whose money is green.

A hardware store in Tennessee first put up a sign telling gays that they
weren't allowed, then took that sign down and put up a weasel-worded
sign telling evangelicals that they weren't welcome.

The first sign was pretty blunt, "No Gays Allowed." Not subtle, but gays
would just find another place to shop. The new sign is: "We reserve the
right to refuse service to anyone who would violate our rights of
freedom of speech and freedom of religion." That sign is intended to
keep radical fundamentalist evangelicals out of his store.

I work in San Francisco. I routinely see evangelicals trying to push
their beliefs and religion onto others. Conversely, there are a lot of
gays in San Francisco but they don't harass people and try to convince
them to become gay.

If the owner doesn't want gays in his store then he should have kept the
original sign. Gays would just go to another store. Now he is offending
evangelicals who pride themselves on violating other people's freedom of
speech and freedom of religion.

how is this store owner going to determine who is gay? of course gays
could shop elsewhere, but a better solution is to shop for LOTs of
stuff, bring it to the cashier, let them ring it up and then announce
"what is the gay discount here". smother the shop in business that
generates no income

or

just wander the store and when Pastor John enters and shops ask him
loudly if his AIDs treatments are working

or why not just do as the sign says - allow gays that don't try to ram stuff
down everyone's throat.

I thought that was what those pedophile priests did

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In article , Muggles
wrote:


God's name is often still invoked by those who buy hammers.

I know what you mean. Even children want to be the God Thor and wield a
hammer just as he does. One side effect is the injuries suffered by
children pretending to be the God Thor. Some kids have attached bungee
cords in an attempt to make their hammer return to their hand after they
throw it. Of course the hammer usually flies back and hits the kid in the
head. ER doctors are referring to the resulting injury as "Hammer Head".
Parents are beside themselves about the injuries and damage to property
caused by children playing God. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Hammer Monster


I feel the same way when people try to play God.

so you hate republicans?

Hardware Stores Enter Politics, Turning Away Gays, Turning AwayEvangelicals
 

On 7/5/2015 1:47 PM, Malcom Mal Reynolds wrote:
In article , Muggles
wrote:


God's name is often still invoked by those who buy hammers.

I know what you mean. Even children want to be the God Thor and wield a
hammer just as he does. One side effect is the injuries suffered by
children pretending to be the God Thor. Some kids have attached bungee
cords in an attempt to make their hammer return to their hand after they
throw it. Of course the hammer usually flies back and hits the kid in the
head. ER doctors are referring to the resulting injury as "Hammer Head".
Parents are beside themselves about the injuries and damage to property
caused by children playing God. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Hammer Monster


I feel the same way when people try to play God.

so you hate republicans?


It doesn't take a political label to be guilty of playing God.

--
Maggie