Got a giggle out of this:

http://www.itworld.com/article/29417...a.html#slide10

Oren and I would probably prefer #9. Well, I typically just use
a hammer.

"T" wrote in message ...
Got a giggle out of this:

http://www.itworld.com/article/29417...a.html#slide10

Oren and I would probably prefer #9. Well, I typically just use
a hammer.

Can't you just send it in to the IRS, labeled "Lerner e-mails"?

On 07/03/2015 06:02 PM, taxed and spent wrote:
"T" wrote in message ...
Got a giggle out of this:

http://www.itworld.com/article/29417...a.html#slide10

Oren and I would probably prefer #9. Well, I typically just use
a hammer.

Can't you just send it in to the IRS, labeled "Lerner e-mails"?



It would be fun to send one to Hillary. Label it as from
her server. "Sh**!!! How'd this one get away!!!"

Wonder how she'd destroy it. Any way, it would be in a hurry!

On 07/03/2015 05:51 PM, T wrote:
Got a giggle out of this:

http://www.itworld.com/article/29417...a.html#slide10


Oren and I would probably prefer #9. Well, I typically just use
a hammer.

From what I have read in these haunts, I bet the majority of
you would go for the drill press.

On 7/3/15 8:51 PM, T wrote:
Got a giggle out of this:

http://www.itworld.com/article/29417...a.html#slide10


Oren and I would probably prefer #9. Well, I typically just use
a hammer.

I like 4. Print up your email so you can burn it in the fireplace.

10 looks dangerous. If sensitive shooters see you walking downrange
with a hard drive of sensitive data, they may open fire before you can
put it down.

I like to collect cartoons about people with disabilities, women, and
ethnic groups. Especially the English. After what they've done to the
English language in the last 400 years, who's going to defend them? If
the NSA gets hold of my hard drive and finds all that insensitive data,
they'll lose interest.

If I need to be sure a hard drive can't be salvaged, I take it to the
Jiffy Lube place.

On 07/03/2015 08:39 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 17:51:11 -0700, T wrote:

Got a giggle out of this:

http://www.itworld.com/article/29417...a.html#slide10

Oren and I would probably prefer #9. Well, I typically just use
a hammer.

I have never seen the need to destroy a working hard drive. There are
too many utilities that will wipe the data without harming the drive.
When they do go tits up, I get out my screw gun with a torx bit and
take it apart.
Those are really cool magnets in there and worth the dig.

I did shoot this one with a .380 and the bullet bounced off.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Bad%20W-D.jpg


Hi Gfretwell,

Some of the utilities don't get everything with a solid state
drive. Hammer works great.

I use full drive encryption on my office drives (I love Linux!).
I have a moral obligation to protect my customer's private
data, not to mention my own tax documents, etc..

You should have used a .45!

-T

Love the picture!

On 07/03/2015 07:11 PM, T wrote:
From what I have read in these haunts, I bet the majority of
you would go for the drill press.

I don't have a drill press except for the little Dremel deal. I do,
however, have a vintage Mosin Nagant that can solve a lot of problems,
especially with those Russian steel jacketed rounds. Not the most
accurate, but I should be able to get a 3 1/2" HD at 100 yards.

On 07/03/2015 09:39 PM, wrote:
I did shoot this one with a .380 and the bullet bounced off.

Yeah, well that's a .380 for ya.

On 07/03/2015 10:00 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 07/03/2015 07:11 PM, T wrote:
From what I have read in these haunts, I bet the majority of
you would go for the drill press.

I don't have a drill press except for the little Dremel deal. I do,
however, have a vintage Mosin Nagant that can solve a lot of problems,
especially with those Russian steel jacketed rounds. Not the most
accurate, but I should be able to get a 3 1/2" HD at 100 yards.

Awesome!

On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 12:02:11 AM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 07/03/2015 09:39 PM, wrote:
I did shoot this one with a .380 and the bullet bounced off.

Yeah, well that's a .380 for ya.

I have a .380 because I don't have the strength anymore to handle a .50 cal. A .380 can still put an eye out. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Bullet Monster

On 7/4/2015 6:52 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 12:02:11 AM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 07/03/2015 09:39 PM, wrote:
I did shoot this one with a .380 and the bullet bounced off.

Yeah, well that's a .380 for ya.

I have a .380 because I don't have the strength anymore to handle a .50 cal. A .380 can still put an eye out. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Bullet Monster


Shot a Desert Eagle .50 AE last week. Only fired one round, not because
it was too hard to handle, but because the ejected case hit me in the
forehead above the eye. Still have a mark there.

On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 8:04:06 AM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
On 7/4/2015 6:52 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 12:02:11 AM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 07/03/2015 09:39 PM, wrote:
I did shoot this one with a .380 and the bullet bounced off.

Yeah, well that's a .380 for ya.

I have a .380 because I don't have the strength anymore to handle a .50 cal. A .380 can still put an eye out. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Bullet Monster


Shot a Desert Eagle .50 AE last week. Only fired one round, not because
it was too hard to handle, but because the ejected case hit me in the
forehead above the eye. Still have a mark there.

Years ago, one of my buddies and I took a mutual friend to the
shooting range. He hadn't shown much interest in owning a gun
prior to that. We shot our pistols and apparently he enjoyed it,
because shortly after he bought his first pistol, the DE .50!

After that, I've been at the range and watched him go up to some
young girl that was just learning to shoot, and offer to let her
shoot the DE. I was horrified, because it's like a little cannon.
I could just picture the recoil planting it in her face, her
dropping it from the recoil, etc. Fortunately nothing bad ever happened.

On 7/3/2015 9:10 PM, T wrote:

http://www.itworld.com/article/29417...a.html#slide10


It would be fun to send one to Hillary. Label it as from
her server. "Sh**!!! How'd this one get away!!!"

Wonder how she'd destroy it. Any way, it would
be in a hurry!

What difference, after all, does it make?

I only saw one way, wasn't about to waste
a lot of time clicking through to the next one.

I really hate those

-
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 7/3/2015 9:10 PM, T wrote:

http://www.itworld.com/article/29417...a.html#slide10


It would be fun to send one to Hillary. Label it as from
her server. "Sh**!!! How'd this one get away!!!"

Wonder how she'd destroy it. Any way, it would be in a hurry!


...... web pages that make you ......


-
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 7/3/2015 9:10 PM, T wrote:

http://www.itworld.com/article/29417...a.html#slide10

It would be fun to send one to Hillary. Label it as from
her server. "Sh**!!! How'd this one get away!!!"

Wonder how she'd destroy it. Any way, it would be in a hurry!


..... click through page after page to see the
rest of the web page.

-
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

"trader_4" wrote in message
...
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 8:04:06 AM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
On 7/4/2015 6:52 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 12:02:11 AM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 07/03/2015 09:39 PM, wrote:
I did shoot this one with a .380 and the bullet bounced off.

Yeah, well that's a .380 for ya.

I have a .380 because I don't have the strength anymore to handle a .50
cal. A .380 can still put an eye out. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Bullet Monster


Shot a Desert Eagle .50 AE last week. Only fired one round, not because
it was too hard to handle, but because the ejected case hit me in the
forehead above the eye. Still have a mark there.

Years ago, one of my buddies and I took a mutual friend to the
shooting range. He hadn't shown much interest in owning a gun
prior to that. We shot our pistols and apparently he enjoyed it,
because shortly after he bought his first pistol, the DE .50!

After that, I've been at the range and watched him go up to some
young girl that was just learning to shoot, and offer to let her
shoot the DE. I was horrified, because it's like a little cannon.
I could just picture the recoil planting it in her face, her
dropping it from the recoil, etc. Fortunately nothing bad ever happened.

That is a good way to turn off a newbie. Stupid.

"T" wrote in message ...

Got a giggle out of this:

http://www.itworld.com/article/29417...a.html#slide10

Oren and I would probably prefer #9. Well, I typically just use
a hammer.


You and your buddy should seek violence counseling. You both seem to have
issues that should be dealt with by professional councilors.

taxed and spent wrote:
"trader_4" wrote in message
...
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 8:04:06 AM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
On 7/4/2015 6:52 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 12:02:11 AM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 07/03/2015 09:39 PM, wrote:
I did shoot this one with a .380 and the bullet bounced off.

Yeah, well that's a .380 for ya.

I have a .380 because I don't have the strength anymore to handle
a .50 cal. A .380 can still put an eye out. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Bullet Monster


Shot a Desert Eagle .50 AE last week. Only fired one round, not
because it was too hard to handle, but because the ejected case hit
me in the forehead above the eye. Still have a mark there.

Years ago, one of my buddies and I took a mutual friend to the
shooting range. He hadn't shown much interest in owning a gun
prior to that. We shot our pistols and apparently he enjoyed it,
because shortly after he bought his first pistol, the DE .50!

After that, I've been at the range and watched him go up to some
young girl that was just learning to shoot, and offer to let her
shoot the DE. I was horrified, because it's like a little cannon.
I could just picture the recoil planting it in her face, her
dropping it from the recoil, etc. Fortunately nothing bad ever
happened.

That is a good way to turn off a newbie. Stupid.

Or give them such an adrenaline rush that they're hooked forever .
--
Snag

On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 17:51:11 -0700, T wrote:

Got a giggle out of this:

http://www.itworld.com/article/29417...a.html#slide10

Oren and I would probably prefer #9. Well, I typically just use
a hammer.

True, If we don't have Thermite.

"There's nothing like the scent of Cordite in a woman's hair."

On Sat, 4 Jul 2015 09:57:28 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

After that, I've been at the range and watched him go up to some
young girl that was just learning to shoot, and offer to let her
shoot the DE. I was horrified, because it's like a little cannon.
I could just picture the recoil planting it in her face, her
dropping it from the recoil, etc. Fortunately nothing bad ever
happened.

That is a good way to turn off a newbie. Stupid.

Or give them such an adrenaline rush that they're hooked forever .

In LEO jobs, women have to qualify in firearms just as men. Petite
women took the kick of a shot gun in OO.

Just let them get a hot brass cartridge down their teats. They can
dance and turn the weapon.
--
I like Guns and Titties

On 7/4/2015 1:05 PM, Oren wrote:
In LEO jobs, women have to qualify in firearms just as men. Petite
women took the kick of a shot gun in OO.

Just let them get a hot brass cartridge down their teats. They can
dance and turn the weapon.


Don't have the link, but I remember seeing a
youtube of a woman firing a rather large
shoulder fired rifle. Maybe shotgun. The
"helpful" man with her stood with his palms
behind her shoulder so she wouldn't go back
over. I'm thinking wow, slam all that energy
into her, and don't let her bounce back with
the recoil. Not good.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 07/04/2015 06:03 AM, Frank wrote:
Shot a Desert Eagle .50 AE last week. Only fired one round, not because
it was too hard to handle, but because the ejected case hit me in the
forehead above the eye. Still have a mark there.

I've got a 50 AE case on my desk that I found at the range. I amuse
myself by dropping a .45 ACP round into it. The .45 rattles around a
little.

I've never been interested in insta-flinch loads.

On 07/04/2015 09:21 AM, Oren wrote:
"There's nothing like the scent of Cordite in a woman's hair."

I don't think I've ever smelled Cordite... I deduct points for
detective story authors that mention cordite.

Unless they're trolling that is. There was one author that would have
the antagonist click the safety off on his revolver. When the irate
letters started rolling in he'd point out the hero was carrying one of
the few revolvers that did have a safety. Gotcha!

On 07/04/2015 08:15 AM, wrote:
I don't use SSDs but I am not sure why over writing all of the data
fields with hash data would not work.

It has an "algorithm" as to where it puts stuff, not
a physical location.

On 07/04/2015 06:36 AM, LuckyStrike wrote:
"T" wrote in message ...

Got a giggle out of this:

http://www.itworld.com/article/29417...a.html#slide10


Oren and I would probably prefer #9. Well, I typically just use
a hammer.


You and your buddy should seek violence counseling. You both seem to
have issues that should be dealt with by professional councilors.



:-)

On 07/04/2015 03:02 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jul 2015 13:37:30 -0700, T wrote:

On 07/04/2015 08:15 AM, wrote:
I don't use SSDs but I am not sure why over writing all of the data
fields with hash data would not work.

It has an "algorithm" as to where it puts stuff, not
a physical location.

Yup but if you load it "full" (over marked available areas), no matter
what it was, it ain't there anymore. In real life SSD storage has less
of a memory than oxide.


Here is an article on it:
http://windowssecrets.com/newsletter...sal-of-drives/

On 7/4/15 11:15 AM, wrote:


On a regular spinner, you just need to run the manufacturer "write all
ones" program, then partition and format it. You have a new drive,
clear of all the old data.
For most people, simply formatting it and then running a little DOS
batch file that replicates some harmless file through the whole drive
will work.
There may be a guy at NSA who can "develop" the platters and read them
with a microscope but if this is several gig of data, it is more like
a si fi movie than reality.


People get in trouble when they simply trust "empty the recycle bin"
to erase their data. It never went anywhere. The space is just waiting
to be reused. If you reuse it, the data is gone.

They can read overwritten data. Overwriting 3 times meets the DOE
standard. Overwriting 7 times meets the DOD standard. As long as I
remember, OS X had included Secure Erase. You choose how many times to
overwrite with 1's, the 0's. I don't remember the maximum, but it's a
lot more than 7.

I don't want Google reading my disks and bombarding me with ads for
facelifts!

On Sat, 4 Jul 2015 13:41:36 -0700, T wrote:

On 07/04/2015 06:36 AM, LuckyStrike wrote:
"T" wrote in message ...

Got a giggle out of this:

http://www.itworld.com/article/29417...a.html#slide10


Oren and I would probably prefer #9. Well, I typically just use
a hammer.


You and your buddy should seek violence counseling. You both seem to
have issues that should be dealt with by professional councilors.



:-)

This queer is trolling me. Pay attention, the thing cannot spell
counselors. The dumb **** is giving advise to gun owners.

On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 13:40:20 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 7/4/2015 1:05 PM, Oren wrote:
In LEO jobs, women have to qualify in firearms just as men. Petite
women took the kick of a shot gun in OO.

Just let them get a hot brass cartridge down their teats. They can
dance and turn the weapon.


Don't have the link, but I remember seeing a
youtube of a woman firing a rather large
shoulder fired rifle. Maybe shotgun. The
"helpful" man with her stood with his palms
behind her shoulder so she wouldn't go back
over. I'm thinking wow, slam all that energy
into her, and don't let her bounce back with
the recoil. Not good.

A real range officer would not, none I've seen and my wife was one
time a range officer.

Teach them to pull and tuck the stock in tight. They get better when
smaller buck shot. Experience the 00 and daily use is smaller.

Sounds like your "helpful" person wanted to touch some ass cheeks, on
purpose.

On 7/4/15 1:43 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 10:05:31 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Sat, 4 Jul 2015 09:57:28 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

After that, I've been at the range and watched him go up to some
young girl that was just learning to shoot, and offer to let her
shoot the DE. I was horrified, because it's like a little cannon.
I could just picture the recoil planting it in her face, her
dropping it from the recoil, etc. Fortunately nothing bad ever
happened.

That is a good way to turn off a newbie. Stupid.

Or give them such an adrenaline rush that they're hooked forever .

In LEO jobs, women have to qualify in firearms just as men. Petite
women took the kick of a shot gun in OO.

Just let them get a hot brass cartridge down their teats. They can
dance and turn the weapon.

A good friend of mine was a federal LEO and she was top of her class
at Glynco with the pistol. (Glock .40)

By my calculations, the recoil of a 7-pound 12-gauge is 36-54 foot
pounds, depending on the powder charge and disregarding the mass of the
wad. A heavier shotgun would have less recoil.

A Desert Eagle has 15 foot pounds.
An M-14 has 5.5.
An M-16 has 1.3.

In grade school, I may have been the scrawniest kid in my class. The
biggest was the son of the county jailor. He lived at the jail. He'd
repeated third grade, so he was older. Occasionally he tried to bully
me. It didn't work. A scrawny kid can be a quick little weasel.

In seventh grade, he got even. His father had decided it was time he had
a 12-gauge. He invited me home to shoot it. It hurt my shoulder and
knocked me on my ass. He laughed at me. I figured if I held the butt
more snugly against my shoulder, it wouldn't hurt. If I stepped forward
with my left foot and put my weight there, my right foot would keep me
from being knocked over. That ******* wouldn't let me try another round.

The M-14 has much less recoil, but it's sharper because the velocity is
higher. By the end of a day at the range with no shoulder padding, that
sharp recoil became annoying. I'd wear gloves to fire a DE. I wouldn't
want to fire 100 rounds in one day.

On 7/4/15 1:50 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 07/04/2015 09:21 AM, Oren wrote:
"There's nothing like the scent of Cordite in a woman's hair."

I don't think I've ever smelled Cordite... I deduct points for
detective story authors that mention cordite.

Unless they're trolling that is. There was one author that would have
the antagonist click the safety off on his revolver. When the irate
letters started rolling in he'd point out the hero was carrying one of
the few revolvers that did have a safety. Gotcha!

The antagonist and the protagonist must have had similar revolvers.

The British once used cordite in their .303 cartridge, but I don't think
I've ever smelled it. They issued us hexamethylenetetramine (30 Mj/kg)
to cook. The big advantage was that it burned invisibly. That didn't
matter to me. I didn't cook at night because I didn't carry a flashlight.

The fumes had sulfur and carbon monoxide. Holding a canteen cup over a
burning tab, how do you avoid the fumes? I switched to C-4. I got along
fine with it except the time I put some on the trunk of a banana tree
and lit it. It flared up and I realized it was a terrible idea. It was
hard to extinguish. I had to hit the plastic explosive repeatedly with
my entrenching tool.

On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 13:43:32 -0400, wrote:

A good friend of mine was a federal LEO and she was top of her class
at Glynco with the pistol. (Glock .40)

My wife was there. Train as Range Officer, plus stun gun. Did your
friend get a hot shell at or near her breasts? LOL

On 07/04/2015 06:20 PM, J Burns wrote:
The M-14 has much less recoil, but it's sharper because the velocity is
higher. By the end of a day at the range with no shoulder padding, that
sharp recoil became annoying.

Truth be told 20 or 30 rounds through the Mosin and I switch to
something else. There's no semi-automatic hardware to take the sting
off. The bruising fades in a few days.

On 07/04/2015 07:03 PM, J Burns wrote:
The antagonist and the protagonist must have had similar revolvers.

What can I say? Sometimes I try to rise above my intellect and it never
fares well.

On 7/5/15 12:01 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 20:20:15 -0400, J Burns
wrote:

The M-14 has much less recoil, but it's sharper because the velocity is
higher. By the end of a day at the range with no shoulder padding, that
sharp recoil became annoying.

I have an M1A (civilian M14) and it seems far more punishing to shoot
than my Daly 12 gauge O/U

After I wrote that, I regretted it. The only time I ever fired a
12-gauge was once in 7th grade, so I don't have the experience to
compare the two.

I calculated recoil from projectile weight, muzzle velocity, and weapon
weight. If I did that correctly, my figures are low because I didn't
consider the recoil from the gas shooting out the muzzle.

Your shotgun has a recoil pad. Why didn't they issue those for our
M-14s! And ear plugs!

I wouldn't want an M1A because I hated both my M14's. In boot camp, it
didn't seem to fit me right I was looking forward to 500 yards because
I used to love shooting Necco Wafers prone with a 22. I alternated
between bullseyes and Maggie's drawers!

I got a little annoyed when the rifle instructor jumped up and down on
my back with both feet. He immediately checked my rear sight and told me
it was worn out and wouldn't stay put. To diagnose the problem so
quickly, he must already have known it from my erratic performance. His
violence had been gratuitous.

He was an armorer. I figured he'd screw on a new sight and I'd be in
business. I was wrong. I had to qualify with a rifle that shot where I
aimed only when it was in the mood. At 200 and 300 yards I was too close
to miss. At 500, the guys pulling butts must have thought I'd been
drinking. All that stuff about marksmanship was official hypocrisy.

At Lejeune I got a beat-up M1, and I loved it. It fit me nicely. Firing
was quicker and not fatiguing. I think I know a reason. The stock
seems to have much less drop. More drop means more muzzle jump. It
takes longer to aim the next shot, and it's a jolt to your face, resting
on the stock.

When we shot popup targets from the hip, the M1 worked great for me. I'd
learned shoot from the hip to control the jumping of the muzzle of a 22
so I could put multiple rounds into a running woodchuck. The M1 worked
better because the long forestock was just right to lay my pointing
finger. They told us to aim low so we'd know where the first shot went.
With that beautiful stock, I'd put my first round in the middle of the
target, instead.

That M1 did something my 22 wouldn't do at the hip. If I held my
trigger finger right, the recoil would set off the next shot. It sounded
faster than a machine gun. Sure it held only 8 rounds, but shoving in a
clip was faster than changing a magazine.

Once when I sat on a bench for instruction after shooting, I saw smoke
rising and smelled burning wood. I figured she was a little hot from
shooting faster than John Garand anticipated. I figured I'd let her cool
off, but as the lecture continued, the smoke got worse until I poured a
quart of water down there. That was no way to treat a beautiful lady!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQg9Gfmsg7U

On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 8:03:08 PM UTC-5, J Burns wrote:
On 7/4/15 1:50 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 07/04/2015 09:21 AM, Oren wrote:
"There's nothing like the scent of Cordite in a woman's hair."

I don't think I've ever smelled Cordite... I deduct points for
detective story authors that mention cordite.

Unless they're trolling that is. There was one author that would have
the antagonist click the safety off on his revolver. When the irate
letters started rolling in he'd point out the hero was carrying one of
the few revolvers that did have a safety. Gotcha!

The antagonist and the protagonist must have had similar revolvers.

The British once used cordite in their .303 cartridge, but I don't think
I've ever smelled it. They issued us hexamethylenetetramine (30 Mj/kg)
to cook. The big advantage was that it burned invisibly. That didn't
matter to me. I didn't cook at night because I didn't carry a flashlight.

The fumes had sulfur and carbon monoxide. Holding a canteen cup over a
burning tab, how do you avoid the fumes? I switched to C-4. I got along
fine with it except the time I put some on the trunk of a banana tree
and lit it. It flared up and I realized it was a terrible idea. It was
hard to extinguish. I had to hit the plastic explosive repeatedly with
my entrenching tool.

My older brother was in Special Forces in Nam and he told me of the dangers of lighting C-4 then hitting it with something. He said if it was hit hard enough the shock could cause the burning C-4 to explode. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Exploding Monster

On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 2:28:10 AM UTC-5, J Burns wrote:
On 7/5/15 12:01 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 20:20:15 -0400, J Burns
wrote:

The M-14 has much less recoil, but it's sharper because the velocity is
higher. By the end of a day at the range with no shoulder padding, that
sharp recoil became annoying.

I have an M1A (civilian M14) and it seems far more punishing to shoot
than my Daly 12 gauge O/U

After I wrote that, I regretted it. The only time I ever fired a
12-gauge was once in 7th grade, so I don't have the experience to
compare the two.

I calculated recoil from projectile weight, muzzle velocity, and weapon
weight. If I did that correctly, my figures are low because I didn't
consider the recoil from the gas shooting out the muzzle.

Your shotgun has a recoil pad. Why didn't they issue those for our
M-14s! And ear plugs!

I wouldn't want an M1A because I hated both my M14's. In boot camp, it
didn't seem to fit me right I was looking forward to 500 yards because
I used to love shooting Necco Wafers prone with a 22. I alternated
between bullseyes and Maggie's drawers!

I got a little annoyed when the rifle instructor jumped up and down on
my back with both feet. He immediately checked my rear sight and told me
it was worn out and wouldn't stay put. To diagnose the problem so
quickly, he must already have known it from my erratic performance. His
violence had been gratuitous.

He was an armorer. I figured he'd screw on a new sight and I'd be in
business. I was wrong. I had to qualify with a rifle that shot where I
aimed only when it was in the mood. At 200 and 300 yards I was too close
to miss. At 500, the guys pulling butts must have thought I'd been
drinking. All that stuff about marksmanship was official hypocrisy.

At Lejeune I got a beat-up M1, and I loved it. It fit me nicely. Firing
was quicker and not fatiguing. I think I know a reason. The stock
seems to have much less drop. More drop means more muzzle jump. It
takes longer to aim the next shot, and it's a jolt to your face, resting
on the stock.

When we shot popup targets from the hip, the M1 worked great for me. I'd
learned shoot from the hip to control the jumping of the muzzle of a 22
so I could put multiple rounds into a running woodchuck. The M1 worked
better because the long forestock was just right to lay my pointing
finger. They told us to aim low so we'd know where the first shot went.
With that beautiful stock, I'd put my first round in the middle of the
target, instead.

That M1 did something my 22 wouldn't do at the hip. If I held my
trigger finger right, the recoil would set off the next shot. It sounded
faster than a machine gun. Sure it held only 8 rounds, but shoving in a
clip was faster than changing a magazine.

Once when I sat on a bench for instruction after shooting, I saw smoke
rising and smelled burning wood. I figured she was a little hot from
shooting faster than John Garand anticipated. I figured I'd let her cool
off, but as the lecture continued, the smoke got worse until I poured a
quart of water down there. That was no way to treat a beautiful lady!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQg9Gfmsg7U

I knew musicians used drugs in those days or did those guys drink too much coffee? O_o

[8~{} Uncle Music Monster

On 7/4/2015 7:57 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 13:40:20 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 7/4/2015 1:05 PM, Oren wrote:
In LEO jobs, women have to qualify in firearms just as men. Petite
women took the kick of a shot gun in OO.

Just let them get a hot brass cartridge down their teats. They can
dance and turn the weapon.


Don't have the link, but I remember seeing a
youtube of a woman firing a rather large
shoulder fired rifle. Maybe shotgun. The
"helpful" man with her stood with his palms
behind her shoulder so she wouldn't go back
over. I'm thinking wow, slam all that energy
into her, and don't let her bounce back with
the recoil. Not good.

A real range officer would not, none I've seen and my wife was one
time a range officer.

Teach them to pull and tuck the stock in tight. They get better when
smaller buck shot. Experience the 00 and daily use is smaller.

Sounds like your "helpful" person wanted to touch some ass cheeks, on
purpose.


It's been a lot of years since I saw that
clip, but it surely wasn't a real range
officer. My gut sense was some good ol boy
who meant well.

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On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 11:46:30 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jul 2015 15:11:36 -0700, T wrote:

On 07/04/2015 03:02 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jul 2015 13:37:30 -0700, T wrote:

On 07/04/2015 08:15 AM, wrote:
I don't use SSDs but I am not sure why over writing all of the data
fields with hash data would not work.

It has an "algorithm" as to where it puts stuff, not
a physical location.

Yup but if you load it "full" (over marked available areas), no matter
what it was, it ain't there anymore. In real life SSD storage has less
of a memory than oxide.


Here is an article on it:
http://windowssecrets.com/newsletter...sal-of-drives/

If the storage processor marked a chip bad, I doubt any windoze tool
can see it again. There may be a factory level program that can revive
a dead chip like you can reclaim a bad sector on a disk drive but I
doubt your average hacker is going to be doing that ... just to see
your old movies..

If anything, this is just another reason not to use SSDs.

I read the article and see his point about SSD's. It's the need for
wear leveling that complicates things. But this is a major problem
anywhere you have real security concerns. I would think there are
probably utilities available that will securely erase the whole
thing.

Agree with your previous comments too. How secure you really need to erase
something spans a wide range. Like you say, the largest hole is those
that think because they deleted a file, it's gone, when it's actually
right there in the garbage can where even an amature can instantly
retrieve it. At the other extreme, you have people running wipe
algorithms that take days to complete, to wipe all of a drive with DOD
class levels. Unless you have some special needs, just writing the
disk with zeros or random data works for me.

On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 11:50:03 PM UTC-4, wrote:
Many medical
docs and researchersOn Sat, 04 Jul 2015 19:11:18 -0400, J Burns wrote:

On 7/4/15 11:15 AM, wrote:


On a regular spinner, you just need to run the manufacturer "write all
ones" program, then partition and format it. You have a new drive,
clear of all the old data.
For most people, simply formatting it and then running a little DOS
batch file that replicates some harmless file through the whole drive
will work.
There may be a guy at NSA who can "develop" the platters and read them
with a microscope but if this is several gig of data, it is more like
a si fi movie than reality.


People get in trouble when they simply trust "empty the recycle bin"
to erase their data. It never went anywhere. The space is just waiting
to be reused. If you reuse it, the data is gone.

They can read overwritten data. Overwriting 3 times meets the DOE
standard. Overwriting 7 times meets the DOD standard. As long as I
remember, OS X had included Secure Erase. You choose how many times to
overwrite with 1's, the 0's. I don't remember the maximum, but it's a
lot more than 7.

Like I said, NSA may be able to see that old data but it won't be the
kid who dumpster dives your trash. NSA could get some of the data off
one you hit with a hammer or shot with a desert eagle too.

+1