Looks like paint has been re-formulated for low VOC.


When the interior of my house was painted 15 years ago, I tried
something new and kept the exact number for the paint (Mautz), so I
could get a match when buying more paint to do touch up work.


Was told that the paint from 15 years ago has been reformulated and the
color for the specific number will not necessarily match.


I might have enough of the old stuff left top do the touch up...opened
the can and it's still good.


Suppose the color can be matched electronically now.



The store has been very good to me though. I had a friend who was a
contractor and using his name, they gave me a contractor's discount.


He died many years ago and they still give me his discount, even though
I did tell them he's a goner.

| When the interior of my house was painted 15 years ago, I tried
| something new and kept the exact number for the paint (Mautz), so I
| could get a match when buying more paint to do touch up work.
|
| Was told that the paint from 15 years ago has been reformulated and the
| color for the specific number will not necessarily match.
|

Much of it has been reformulated, but they shouldn't
have trouble matching the color if the brand still exists.

It's a confusing landscape. Some types of paint are just
gone. (Most notably good quality exterior oil paints and
solid stains.) Some oils have been reformulated to comply.
Benjamin Moore interior oil paints have been either
eliminated or reduced to junk. Sherwin Williams and
Pratt & Lambert still make good oil paint, but can only
package it in quarts. (Any company selling oil paint in
gallons has to comply with VOC regulations. As far as I
know there's no such product that's worth using, aside
from calcimine recoater.)

On the other hand, acrylic paints have gradually been
improving. But all around there's been a lot of change,
a lot of new products and a lot of discontinued products.

As far as colors go, though, that shouldn't be an issue.
I still mainly use a Benjamin Moore fandeck of "classic"
colors that came out, I think, in the 90s. I've been gradually
switching over to Sherwin Williams paints. I can trust the
color match of any color in the old BM fandeck when mixed
by either BM *or* SW dealers. Most paint stores these
days have formulae for most other brands of paint. But
if the company that made your paint is gone and you need
a computer match then it's uncertain. Computer matches
only work when an experienced mixer is there to tweak
them.

On 06/24/2015 08:04 AM, Mayayana wrote:
| When the interior of my house was painted 15 years ago, I tried
| something new and kept the exact number for the paint (Mautz), so I
| could get a match when buying more paint to do touch up work.
|
| Was told that the paint from 15 years ago has been reformulated and the
| color for the specific number will not necessarily match.
|

Much of it has been reformulated, but they shouldn't
have trouble matching the color if the brand still exists.

It's a confusing landscape. Some types of paint are just
gone. (Most notably good quality exterior oil paints and
solid stains.) Some oils have been reformulated to comply.
Benjamin Moore interior oil paints have been either
eliminated or reduced to junk. Sherwin Williams and
Pratt & Lambert still make good oil paint, but can only
package it in quarts. (Any company selling oil paint in
gallons has to comply with VOC regulations. As far as I
know there's no such product that's worth using, aside
from calcimine recoater.)

On the other hand, acrylic paints have gradually been
improving. But all around there's been a lot of change,
a lot of new products and a lot of discontinued products.

As far as colors go, though, that shouldn't be an issue.
I still mainly use a Benjamin Moore fandeck of "classic"
colors that came out, I think, in the 90s. I've been gradually
switching over to Sherwin Williams paints. I can trust the
color match of any color in the old BM fandeck when mixed
by either BM *or* SW dealers. Most paint stores these
days have formulae for most other brands of paint. But
if the company that made your paint is gone and you need
a computer match then it's uncertain. Computer matches
only work when an experienced mixer is there to tweak
them.





I go to two places for paint.

They are both maybe a mile from my house.


One is the Mautz dealer that gives me the discount.

The other is a H/W store that sells PPG. The H/W store has a color match
computer and they did a good job of matching the paint when we had them
do it last year. It took them a while to get it exactly right...the guy
was a perfectionist.


Don't know where it came from but I found a small can of Oil-base Mautz
in the basement. It had a sticker on it from a store that was bought out
over 50 years ago, so I am sure it's lead-based.

It was still good!

On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 at 9:02:07 AM UTC-4, Mayayana wrote:
| When the interior of my house was painted 15 years ago, I tried
| something new and kept the exact number for the paint (Mautz), so I
| could get a match when buying more paint to do touch up work.
|
| Was told that the paint from 15 years ago has been reformulated and the
| color for the specific number will not necessarily match.
|

Much of it has been reformulated, but they shouldn't
have trouble matching the color if the brand still exists.


I don't understand that either. Paint stores here can even
match a color from most competitors by just looking it up on
their system.

But if the paint has been on the wall 15 years, it may not matter
anyhow. If you just touch up a spot, it's probably going to
show. And if you do a whole wall, as long as it's pretty close
you probably won't see it either.

On 06/24/2015 12:23 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 at 9:02:07 AM UTC-4, Mayayana wrote:
| When the interior of my house was painted 15 years ago, I tried
| something new and kept the exact number for the paint (Mautz), so I
| could get a match when buying more paint to do touch up work.
|
| Was told that the paint from 15 years ago has been reformulated and the
| color for the specific number will not necessarily match.
|

Much of it has been reformulated, but they shouldn't
have trouble matching the color if the brand still exists.


I don't understand that either. Paint stores here can even
match a color from most competitors by just looking it up on
their system.

But if the paint has been on the wall 15 years, it may not matter
anyhow. If you just touch up a spot, it's probably going to
show. And if you do a whole wall, as long as it's pretty close
you probably won't see it either.




We are taking down all the art/photos ...patching the holes, touching up
where they were patched then putting the art up less haphazardly.

Some have been up for 25 years and they sure needed dusting!

I expect that 98% of what we do will be covered anyway and what isn't
will hardly matter.

I told my wife we'd do it 100% right even though that's against my
better judgment. We hired a friend who's a perfectionist and not only is
he going to spackle twice to allow for shrinkage, he insists on priming
as well.

Absurd, since this house was built in 1898.

Oh well.

She's an artist and I'm a photographer, plus we collect art too.

There are 300 paintings & photos!!!!


Quite a collection.

Maybe you should check that old paint for lead. If
it's lead-free it could come in handy. I still keep
a gallon of oil base house paint around for things
like window boxes. nothing else will hold up to the
weather.

On 06/24/2015 05:21 PM, Mayayana wrote:
Maybe you should check that old paint for lead. If
it's lead-free it could come in handy. I still keep
a gallon of oil base house paint around for things
like window boxes. nothing else will hold up to the
weather.






The 15 year old paint I have is Latex (non lead)


The 50+ year old can of oil paint I'm quite sure is lead

On 6/24/2015 1:15 PM, philo wrote:
On 06/24/2015 08:04 AM, Mayayana wrote:
| When the interior of my house was painted 15 years ago, I tried
| something new and kept the exact number for the paint (Mautz), so I
| could get a match when buying more paint to do touch up work.
|
| Was told that the paint from 15 years ago has been reformulated and the
| color for the specific number will not necessarily match.
|

Much of it has been reformulated, but they shouldn't
have trouble matching the color if the brand still exists.

It's a confusing landscape. Some types of paint are just
gone. (Most notably good quality exterior oil paints and
solid stains.) Some oils have been reformulated to comply.
Benjamin Moore interior oil paints have been either
eliminated or reduced to junk. Sherwin Williams and
Pratt & Lambert still make good oil paint, but can only
package it in quarts. (Any company selling oil paint in
gallons has to comply with VOC regulations. As far as I
know there's no such product that's worth using, aside
from calcimine recoater.)

On the other hand, acrylic paints have gradually been
improving. But all around there's been a lot of change,
a lot of new products and a lot of discontinued products.

As far as colors go, though, that shouldn't be an issue.
I still mainly use a Benjamin Moore fandeck of "classic"
colors that came out, I think, in the 90s. I've been gradually
switching over to Sherwin Williams paints. I can trust the
color match of any color in the old BM fandeck when mixed
by either BM *or* SW dealers. Most paint stores these
days have formulae for most other brands of paint. But
if the company that made your paint is gone and you need
a computer match then it's uncertain. Computer matches
only work when an experienced mixer is there to tweak
them.





I go to two places for paint.

They are both maybe a mile from my house.


One is the Mautz dealer that gives me the discount.

The other is a H/W store that sells PPG. The H/W store has a color match
computer and they did a good job of matching the paint when we had them
do it last year. It took them a while to get it exactly right...the guy
was a perfectionist.


Don't know where it came from but I found a small can of Oil-base Mautz
in the basement. It had a sticker on it from a store that was bought out
over 50 years ago, so I am sure it's lead-based.

It was still good!

You should like a pack rat. Do you wash your depends out to save money?
You crazy old goat, you need committed.