I'm fed up with spending hours avoiding hearing or seeing the results of
F1 qualifying or races that the BBC are not showing live. And I'm even
more fed up when my attempts fail!

To avoid this I'm thinking of sticking a second dish on the wall and
pointing it at 19.2E for the live broadcasts on RTL. If I do this, I
understand that I will need to connect both my current 28.2E feed (which
comes through a multiswitch in the loft) and the new feed into a DiSEqC
switch and then connect the output from the DiSEqC switch to my
Foxsat-HDR's input.

Before I get the ladders out...

Is the above correct, and are there any gotchas to look out for?

With this setup, would the Foxsat automatically switch between
satellites as the recording schedule required, or is it necessary to
make the change manually?

Is the Foxsat the best option for this, or would it be advisable to buy
a different, second PVR? If so, is any particular PVR to be recommended?

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F

F wrote:

To avoid this I'm thinking of sticking a second dish on the wall and
pointing it at 19.2E

You don't have to have two dishes, two LNBs on one dish (still with the
DiSEqC switch) will suffice.

On 19/05/2013 14:16 Andy Burns wrote:

F wrote:

To avoid this I'm thinking of sticking a second dish on the wall and
pointing it at 19.2E

You don't have to have two dishes, two LNBs on one dish (still with the
DiSEqC switch) will suffice.

Yes, sorry, I should have made it clear that I knew that. The idea of a
second dish was that the first is a larger 60cm zone 2 dish with a quad
LNB and so 4 cables from it. I want to avoid overloading the dish with
the additional offset arm, LNB and cable and risking it moving too much
in the wind.

--
F

In article , F
news@nowhere.? scribeth thus
On 19/05/2013 14:16 Andy Burns wrote:

F wrote:

To avoid this I'm thinking of sticking a second dish on the wall and
pointing it at 19.2E

You don't have to have two dishes, two LNBs on one dish (still with the
DiSEqC switch) will suffice.

Yes, sorry, I should have made it clear that I knew that. The idea of a
second dish was that the first is a larger 60cm zone 2 dish with a quad
LNB and so 4 cables from it. I want to avoid overloading the dish with
the additional offset arm, LNB and cable and risking it moving too much
in the wind.


FWIW we have One garden mounted 600 mm dish with Three LNB's thereon and
a 4 way Diseq switch and the LNB's are on 13,19.2 and 28.2 respectfully
and do work well.

We also have Telecom 5 on a separate dish into the same diseq switch and
its ticked fine for years....

--
Tony Sayer

As an aside, it does make you wonder about the contractual situation for F1,
if one network can screen it free while another charges and the main
broadcaster puts it out time delayed.

Crazy.

Brian

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"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , F
news@nowhere.? scribeth thus
On 19/05/2013 14:16 Andy Burns wrote:

F wrote:

To avoid this I'm thinking of sticking a second dish on the wall and
pointing it at 19.2E

You don't have to have two dishes, two LNBs on one dish (still with the
DiSEqC switch) will suffice.

Yes, sorry, I should have made it clear that I knew that. The idea of a
second dish was that the first is a larger 60cm zone 2 dish with a quad
LNB and so 4 cables from it. I want to avoid overloading the dish with
the additional offset arm, LNB and cable and risking it moving too much
in the wind.


FWIW we have One garden mounted 600 mm dish with Three LNB's thereon and
a 4 way Diseq switch and the LNB's are on 13,19.2 and 28.2 respectfully
and do work well.

We also have Telecom 5 on a separate dish into the same diseq switch and
its ticked fine for years....

--
Tony Sayer

On 19/05/2013 17:43, Brian Gaff wrote:
As an aside, it does make you wonder about the contractual situation for F1,
if one network can screen it free while another charges and the main
broadcaster puts it out time delayed.

Crazy.

True but to get commentary in English you have to tune in to Radio 5Live
I believe.

Another Dave

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...

As an aside, it does make you wonder about the contractual situation for
F1, if one network can screen it free while another charges and the main
broadcaster puts it out time delayed.

Yeah it wouldn't be so bad but there's hardly any decent sport left on the
BBC since they decided to blow their entire sports budget on the F1
Scalectrix snooze-fest.

I seem to remember reading that the BBC got a bit carried away spending
money and ended up having to re-negotiate the rights which meant they shared
the F1 season with Sky but were only allowed to show half of the races live.

I think Ecclestone saw the BBC coming a mile off.

On 19/05/13 14:10, F wrote:
I'm fed up with spending hours avoiding hearing or seeing the results
of F1 qualifying or races that the BBC are not showing live. And I'm
even more fed up when my attempts fail!

To avoid this I'm thinking of sticking a second dish on the wall and
pointing it at 19.2E for the live broadcasts on RTL. If I do this, I
understand that I will need to connect both my current 28.2E feed
(which comes through a multiswitch in the loft) and the new feed into
a DiSEqC switch and then connect the output from the DiSEqC switch to
my Foxsat-HDR's input.

Before I get the ladders out...

Is the above correct, and are there any gotchas to look out for?

With this setup, would the Foxsat automatically switch between
satellites as the recording schedule required, or is it necessary to
make the change manually?

Is the Foxsat the best option for this, or would it be advisable to
buy a different, second PVR? If so, is any particular PVR to be
recommended?

www.eplsite.com

will net you a free lo res live feed


--
Ineptocracy

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On 20/05/2013 01:05, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
www.eplsite.com

will net you a free lo res live feed


Thanks for that. It's not needed for Monaco as the BBC are showing
everything but I'll try it on the later races.

Another Dave

On 20/05/2013 01:05 The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 19/05/13 14:10, F wrote:
I'm fed up with spending hours avoiding hearing or seeing the results
of F1 qualifying or races that the BBC are not showing live. And I'm
even more fed up when my attempts fail!

[snip]

www.eplsite.com

will net you a free lo res live feed

Thanks.

--
F

On 19/05/2013 16:55 tony sayer wrote:

In article , F
news@nowhere.? scribeth thus
On 19/05/2013 14:16 Andy Burns wrote:

F wrote:

To avoid this I'm thinking of sticking a second dish on the wall and
pointing it at 19.2E

You don't have to have two dishes, two LNBs on one dish (still with the
DiSEqC switch) will suffice.

Yes, sorry, I should have made it clear that I knew that. The idea of a
second dish was that the first is a larger 60cm zone 2 dish with a quad
LNB and so 4 cables from it. I want to avoid overloading the dish with
the additional offset arm, LNB and cable and risking it moving too much
in the wind.


FWIW we have One garden mounted 600 mm dish with Three LNB's thereon and
a 4 way Diseq switch and the LNB's are on 13,19.2 and 28.2 respectfully
and do work well.

We also have Telecom 5 on a separate dish into the same diseq switch and
its ticked fine for years....

Thanks, I'm making progress on this...

I'm going for a second dish for 19.2E as the present one has enough
hanging off of it and I want to get the strongest signals I can.

I have a Vision multiswitch in the loft with all four inputs filled from
the present quad LNB. All eight outputs are distributed around the
house. To distribute the signal from 19.2E around the house, and keep
all options from the present LNB, can I add outputs from, say, a dual
LNB on the second dish to the multiswitch using a DiSEqC switch on one
of its inputs? Or is it best to run new cables from the new dish and
install DiSEqC switches immediately before two receivers?

--
F

In article , F
news@nowhere.? scribeth thus
On 19/05/2013 16:55 tony sayer wrote:

In article , F
news@nowhere.? scribeth thus
On 19/05/2013 14:16 Andy Burns wrote:

F wrote:

To avoid this I'm thinking of sticking a second dish on the wall and
pointing it at 19.2E

You don't have to have two dishes, two LNBs on one dish (still with the
DiSEqC switch) will suffice.

Yes, sorry, I should have made it clear that I knew that. The idea of a
second dish was that the first is a larger 60cm zone 2 dish with a quad
LNB and so 4 cables from it. I want to avoid overloading the dish with
the additional offset arm, LNB and cable and risking it moving too much
in the wind.


FWIW we have One garden mounted 600 mm dish with Three LNB's thereon and
a 4 way Diseq switch and the LNB's are on 13,19.2 and 28.2 respectfully
and do work well.

We also have Telecom 5 on a separate dish into the same diseq switch and
its ticked fine for years....

Thanks, I'm making progress on this...

I'm going for a second dish for 19.2E as the present one has enough
hanging off of it and I want to get the strongest signals I can.

I have a Vision multiswitch in the loft with all four inputs filled from
the present quad LNB. All eight outputs are distributed around the
house. To distribute the signal from 19.2E around the house, and keep
all options from the present LNB, can I add outputs from, say, a dual
LNB on the second dish to the multiswitch using a DiSEqC switch on one
of its inputs? Or is it best to run new cables from the new dish and
install DiSEqC switches immediately before two receivers?


Crumbs you must watch a lot of TV!.. I don't think you'll have much
success adding on another in the original system, seems rather complex
with the switching perhaps it might be best to limit this to the Two
receivers that you refer to...

--
Tony Sayer

On 22/05/2013 20:09 tony sayer wrote:

In article , F
news@nowhere.? scribeth thus
On 19/05/2013 16:55 tony sayer wrote:

In article , F
news@nowhere.? scribeth thus
On 19/05/2013 14:16 Andy Burns wrote:

F wrote:

To avoid this I'm thinking of sticking a second dish on the wall and
pointing it at 19.2E

You don't have to have two dishes, two LNBs on one dish (still with the
DiSEqC switch) will suffice.

Yes, sorry, I should have made it clear that I knew that. The idea of a
second dish was that the first is a larger 60cm zone 2 dish with a quad
LNB and so 4 cables from it. I want to avoid overloading the dish with
the additional offset arm, LNB and cable and risking it moving too much
in the wind.


FWIW we have One garden mounted 600 mm dish with Three LNB's thereon and
a 4 way Diseq switch and the LNB's are on 13,19.2 and 28.2 respectfully
and do work well.

We also have Telecom 5 on a separate dish into the same diseq switch and
its ticked fine for years....

Thanks, I'm making progress on this...

I'm going for a second dish for 19.2E as the present one has enough
hanging off of it and I want to get the strongest signals I can.

I have a Vision multiswitch in the loft with all four inputs filled from
the present quad LNB. All eight outputs are distributed around the
house. To distribute the signal from 19.2E around the house, and keep
all options from the present LNB, can I add outputs from, say, a dual
LNB on the second dish to the multiswitch using a DiSEqC switch on one
of its inputs? Or is it best to run new cables from the new dish and
install DiSEqC switches immediately before two receivers?


Crumbs you must watch a lot of TV!

No, we just watch in a number of locations. It's a little like having
two toilets: you don't pee twice as much!

I decided that if I was going to put in a distribution system then I
might as well cover all potential options while I was at it rather than
have to re-visit the issue.

I don't think you'll have much
success adding on another in the original system, seems rather complex
with the switching perhaps it might be best to limit this to the Two
receivers that you refer to...

I think I'll do just that.

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F