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GE R.O. Water Filter
I installed 3 of the subject GE reverse osmosis water filters about a
year ago. (The model number is PXRQ15RBL). My daughter wanted one (because she didn't like Los Angeles city water), so I stalled one at her place. I liked the way it installed easily, so when I returned to my Ohio well water, I installed an identical model here. Our well water wasn't bad. There was an occassional slight sulfer odor, but testing indicated no harmful bacteria. It is also softened.) The filter seemed to work well, but I found myself also drinking water from a bar sink in the basement family room. This seemed silly since I had installed the filter upstairs - so I bought another filter and installed it at the basement bar sink. That's it for background - now to my question: The manual says to replace the "pre" and "post" filter canisters every 6 months. To make the product seem high tech, they even provide a 6 month timer that lights an LED when the 6 months is up. That is all it is - a timer. It does not measure usage, flow rate, or contaminates at all. So, how often do I really need to change the canisters? The filter installed upstairs is used for making coffee, tea, and meals every day, while the filter at the bar sink is used for only a few ounces of water no more often than once a week. I can't imagine why both units need to have their filters changed at the same time. Do the filters get clogged? (Mine haven't even on the higher use sink). Do the filters become contaminated with bacteria? In that case, the lower use one might be worse. (In my case, there have been no foul odors nor reduced flow). Both LED indicators went on at 6 months and blinked until the batteries died. I just can't see spending $80 every 6 months for no reason. Does anyone have any inside information or real experience regarding these things? How can I tell when they really need to be changed? Am I being reasonably frugal or risking my life? Pat |
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:58:44 -0500, Pat wrote:
I installed 3 of the subject GE reverse osmosis water filters about a year ago. (The model number is PXRQ15RBL). My daughter wanted one (because she didn't like Los Angeles city water), so I stalled one at her place. I liked the way it installed easily, so when I returned to my Ohio well water, I installed an identical model here. Our well water wasn't bad. There was an occassional slight sulfer odor, but testing indicated no harmful bacteria. It is also softened.) The filter seemed to work well, but I found myself also drinking water from a bar sink in the basement family room. This seemed silly since I had installed the filter upstairs - so I bought another filter and installed it at the basement bar sink. That's it for background - now to my question: The manual says to replace the "pre" and "post" filter canisters every 6 months. To make the product seem high tech, they even provide a 6 month timer that lights an LED when the 6 months is up. That is all it is - a timer. It does not measure usage, flow rate, or contaminates at all. So, how often do I really need to change the canisters? The filter installed upstairs is used for making coffee, tea, and meals every day, while the filter at the bar sink is used for only a few ounces of water no more often than once a week. I can't imagine why both units need to have their filters changed at the same time. Do the filters get clogged? (Mine haven't even on the higher use sink). Do the filters become contaminated with bacteria? In that case, the lower use one might be worse. (In my case, there have been no foul odors nor reduced flow). Both LED indicators went on at 6 months and blinked until the batteries died. I just can't see spending $80 every 6 months for no reason. Does anyone have any inside information or real experience regarding these things? How can I tell when they really need to be changed? Am I being reasonably frugal or risking my life? Pat This URL indicates: "6 Months or 900 gallons" & "Pre/Post Filter Life 900 Gallons"... Perhaps you can shop for better filter prices? Does this $80.price also include the Membrane filter? http://products.geappliances.com/ApplProducts/Dispatcher?REQUEST=SpecPage&Sku=PXRQ15RBL |
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:42:31 -0800, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:58:44 -0500, Pat wrote: I installed 3 of the subject GE reverse osmosis water filters about a year ago. (The model number is PXRQ15RBL). My daughter wanted one (because she didn't like Los Angeles city water), so I stalled one at her place. I liked the way it installed easily, so when I returned to my Ohio well water, I installed an identical model here. Our well water wasn't bad. There was an occassional slight sulfer odor, but testing indicated no harmful bacteria. It is also softened.) The filter seemed to work well, but I found myself also drinking water from a bar sink in the basement family room. This seemed silly since I had installed the filter upstairs - so I bought another filter and installed it at the basement bar sink. That's it for background - now to my question: The manual says to replace the "pre" and "post" filter canisters every 6 months. To make the product seem high tech, they even provide a 6 month timer that lights an LED when the 6 months is up. That is all it is - a timer. It does not measure usage, flow rate, or contaminates at all. So, how often do I really need to change the canisters? The filter installed upstairs is used for making coffee, tea, and meals every day, while the filter at the bar sink is used for only a few ounces of water no more often than once a week. I can't imagine why both units need to have their filters changed at the same time. Do the filters get clogged? (Mine haven't even on the higher use sink). Do the filters become contaminated with bacteria? In that case, the lower use one might be worse. (In my case, there have been no foul odors nor reduced flow). Both LED indicators went on at 6 months and blinked until the batteries died. I just can't see spending $80 every 6 months for no reason. Does anyone have any inside information or real experience regarding these things? How can I tell when they really need to be changed? Am I being reasonably frugal or risking my life? Pat This URL indicates: "6 Months or 900 gallons" & "Pre/Post Filter Life 900 Gallons"... Perhaps you can shop for better filter prices? Does this $80.price also include the Membrane filter? http://products.geappliances.com/ApplProducts/Dispatcher?REQUEST=SpecPage&Sku=PXRQ15RBL Thanks Oren, I hadn't seen that 900 gallon figure before. So, should I change them after 900 gallons or is it "6 months or 900 gallons whichever comes first"? The kitchen one will reach 900 gallons in about 2-1/2 years (at about a gallon per day). However, the basement unit won't use 900 gallons until the year 2089 since I doubt I use a gallon per month down there. By the way, I just checked on filter prices. The local Home Depot has them for $45.99 per pair (the "pre" and "post" filter). Since I have 2 units, That would be $92 every six months if I chose to follow the blinking LED's advice. Plus, when changing filters, the sanitizing procedure must be followed. They stress how easy it is to change filters without any tools (which is true), but the sanitizing procedure takes hours. I think I will change filters every couple of years unless I notice the water flow slowing down or any odors. Pat |
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 15:51:03 -0500, Pat wrote:
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:42:31 -0800, Oren wrote: On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:58:44 -0500, Pat wrote: I installed 3 of the subject GE reverse osmosis water filters about a year ago. (The model number is PXRQ15RBL). My daughter wanted one (because she didn't like Los Angeles city water), so I stalled one at her place. I liked the way it installed easily, so when I returned to my Ohio well water, I installed an identical model here. Our well water wasn't bad. There was an occassional slight sulfer odor, but testing indicated no harmful bacteria. It is also softened.) The filter seemed to work well, but I found myself also drinking water from a bar sink in the basement family room. This seemed silly since I had installed the filter upstairs - so I bought another filter and installed it at the basement bar sink. That's it for background - now to my question: The manual says to replace the "pre" and "post" filter canisters every 6 months. To make the product seem high tech, they even provide a 6 month timer that lights an LED when the 6 months is up. That is all it is - a timer. It does not measure usage, flow rate, or contaminates at all. So, how often do I really need to change the canisters? The filter installed upstairs is used for making coffee, tea, and meals every day, while the filter at the bar sink is used for only a few ounces of water no more often than once a week. I can't imagine why both units need to have their filters changed at the same time. Do the filters get clogged? (Mine haven't even on the higher use sink). Do the filters become contaminated with bacteria? In that case, the lower use one might be worse. (In my case, there have been no foul odors nor reduced flow). Both LED indicators went on at 6 months and blinked until the batteries died. I just can't see spending $80 every 6 months for no reason. Does anyone have any inside information or real experience regarding these things? How can I tell when they really need to be changed? Am I being reasonably frugal or risking my life? Pat This URL indicates: "6 Months or 900 gallons" & "Pre/Post Filter Life 900 Gallons"... Perhaps you can shop for better filter prices? Does this $80.price also include the Membrane filter? http://products.geappliances.com/ApplProducts/Dispatcher?REQUEST=SpecPage&Sku=PXRQ15RBL Thanks Oren, I hadn't seen that 900 gallon figure before. So, should I change them after 900 gallons or is it "6 months or 900 gallons whichever comes first"? The kitchen one will reach 900 gallons in about 2-1/2 years (at about a gallon per day). However, the basement unit won't use 900 gallons until the year 2089 since I doubt I use a gallon per month down there. By the way, I just checked on filter prices. The local Home Depot has them for $45.99 per pair (the "pre" and "post" filter). Since I have 2 units, That would be $92 every six months if I chose to follow the blinking LED's advice. Plus, when changing filters, the sanitizing procedure must be followed. They stress how easy it is to change filters without any tools (which is true), but the sanitizing procedure takes hours. I think I will change filters every couple of years unless I notice the water flow slowing down or any odors. Pat I'd agree with your last sentence. If the unit in the kitchen is connected to your ice maker, the cubes will / may become "cloudy" when the filters need changing, I think. It's kind of a judgment call on your part. Good luck. |
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On 12/16/2014 8:58 AM, Pat wrote:
I installed 3 of the subject GE reverse osmosis water filters about a year ago. (The model number is PXRQ15RBL). My daughter wanted one (because she didn't like Los Angeles city water), so I stalled one at her place. I liked the way it installed easily, so when I returned to my Ohio well water, I installed an identical model here. Our well water wasn't bad. There was an occassional slight sulfer odor, but testing indicated no harmful bacteria. It is also softened.) The filter seemed to work well, but I found myself also drinking water from a bar sink in the basement family room. This seemed silly since I had installed the filter upstairs - so I bought another filter and installed it at the basement bar sink. That's it for background - now to my question: The manual says to replace the "pre" and "post" filter canisters every 6 months. To make the product seem high tech, they even provide a 6 month timer that lights an LED when the 6 months is up. That is all it is - a timer. It does not measure usage, flow rate, or contaminates at all. So, how often do I really need to change the canisters? The filter installed upstairs is used for making coffee, tea, and meals every day, while the filter at the bar sink is used for only a few ounces of water no more often than once a week. I can't imagine why both units need to have their filters changed at the same time. Do the filters get clogged? (Mine haven't even on the higher use sink). Do the filters become contaminated with bacteria? In that case, the lower use one might be worse. (In my case, there have been no foul odors nor reduced flow). Both LED indicators went on at 6 months and blinked until the batteries died. I just can't see spending $80 every 6 months for no reason. Does anyone have any inside information or real experience regarding these things? How can I tell when they really need to be changed? Am I being reasonably frugal or risking my life? Pat I am not familiar with the RO system, but our well water is filtered with a particle filter, then a carbon filter. The particle filter is paper and will disintegrate after about a year. The particle filter was plumbed backwards by the previous owner, so when the paper disintegrated it plugged the screens on the washing machine cold water line. If your filters have any paper in the filter, that will be the reason for more frequent filter changes. Paul |
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 13:59:30 -0800, Paul Drahn
wrote: I am not familiar with the RO system, but our well water is filtered with a particle filter, then a carbon filter. The particle filter is paper and will disintegrate after about a year. The particle filter was plumbed backwards by the previous owner, so when the paper disintegrated it plugged the screens on the washing machine cold water line. If your filters have any paper in the filter, that will be the reason for more frequent filter changes. I've not seen a paper filter in an RO system and am not familiar with well water filters. Aside from the Pre/Post filter, there is a Membrane sediment filter in the subject unit. Generally, they are ~5-Micron filter (not sure of the material it is made from). As I understand, this Micron sediment rated filter is what reduces the "cooties" in the water. The carbon filter reduces or removes bad taste or odors. When the micron filter goes bad or clogs, I 'm sure the OP would see a reduction in water flow at the faucet. Tech support could help... |
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On 12/16/2014 5:24 PM, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 13:59:30 -0800, Paul Drahn wrote: I am not familiar with the RO system, but our well water is filtered with a particle filter, then a carbon filter. The particle filter is paper and will disintegrate after about a year. The particle filter was plumbed backwards by the previous owner, so when the paper disintegrated it plugged the screens on the washing machine cold water line. If your filters have any paper in the filter, that will be the reason for more frequent filter changes. I've not seen a paper filter in an RO system and am not familiar with well water filters. Aside from the Pre/Post filter, there is a Membrane sediment filter in the subject unit. Generally, they are ~5-Micron filter (not sure of the material it is made from). As I understand, this Micron sediment rated filter is what reduces the "cooties" in the water. The carbon filter reduces or removes bad taste or odors. When the micron filter goes bad or clogs, I 'm sure the OP would see a reduction in water flow at the faucet. Tech support could help... I'm not familiar with home units but RO removes contaminants and concentrated contaminated water is discharged - usually concentrated salt water. Problem here is apparently clogging. I've got a whole house sediment filter for my well and change candle filters every 6 months for only a few dollars each. Filters are like a porous ceramic or fiber windings around a core. This should prolong the RO units life. |
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On 12/16/2014 8:58 AM, Pat wrote:
I installed 3 of the subject GE reverse osmosis water filters about a year ago. (The model number is PXRQ15RBL). My daughter wanted one (because she didn't like Los Angeles city water), so I stalled one at her place. I liked the way it installed easily, so when I returned to my Ohio well water, I installed an identical model here. Our well water wasn't bad. There was an occassional slight sulfer odor, but testing indicated no harmful bacteria. It is also softened.) The filter seemed to work well, but I found myself also drinking water from a bar sink in the basement family room. This seemed silly since I had installed the filter upstairs - so I bought another filter and installed it at the basement bar sink. That's it for background - now to my question: The manual says to replace the "pre" and "post" filter canisters every 6 months. To make the product seem high tech, they even provide a 6 month timer that lights an LED when the 6 months is up. That is all it is - a timer. It does not measure usage, flow rate, or contaminates at all. So, how often do I really need to change the canisters? The filter installed upstairs is used for making coffee, tea, and meals every day, while the filter at the bar sink is used for only a few ounces of water no more often than once a week. I can't imagine why both units need to have their filters changed at the same time. Do the filters get clogged? (Mine haven't even on the higher use sink). Do the filters become contaminated with bacteria? In that case, the lower use one might be worse. (In my case, there have been no foul odors nor reduced flow). Both LED indicators went on at 6 months and blinked until the batteries died. I just can't see spending $80 every 6 months for no reason. Does anyone have any inside information or real experience regarding these things? How can I tell when they really need to be changed? Am I being reasonably frugal or risking my life? I've used RO filters for years. The recommended filter change intervals are extremely conservative. The R.O. membrane eventually gets clogged to the point where production slows significantly. The other stages are more on volume than time but obviously they are not installing a flow meter. Same on those refrigerator water filter cartridges. Very conservative and assuming high volume usage. |
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GE R.O. Water Filter
Why not just review the water usage log that every member of the
family has to update whenever they fill a glass (graduated beaker, of course) with RO water? |
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SMS wrote:
On 12/16/2014 8:58 AM, Pat wrote: I installed 3 of the subject GE reverse osmosis water filters about a year ago. (The model number is PXRQ15RBL). My daughter wanted one (because she didn't like Los Angeles city water), so I stalled one at her place. I liked the way it installed easily, so when I returned to my Ohio well water, I installed an identical model here. Our well water wasn't bad. There was an occassional slight sulfer odor, but testing indicated no harmful bacteria. It is also softened.) The filter seemed to work well, but I found myself also drinking water from a bar sink in the basement family room. This seemed silly since I had installed the filter upstairs - so I bought another filter and installed it at the basement bar sink. That's it for background - now to my question: The manual says to replace the "pre" and "post" filter canisters every 6 months. To make the product seem high tech, they even provide a 6 month timer that lights an LED when the 6 months is up. That is all it is - a timer. It does not measure usage, flow rate, or contaminates at all. So, how often do I really need to change the canisters? The filter installed upstairs is used for making coffee, tea, and meals every day, while the filter at the bar sink is used for only a few ounces of water no more often than once a week. I can't imagine why both units need to have their filters changed at the same time. Do the filters get clogged? (Mine haven't even on the higher use sink). Do the filters become contaminated with bacteria? In that case, the lower use one might be worse. (In my case, there have been no foul odors nor reduced flow). Both LED indicators went on at 6 months and blinked until the batteries died. I just can't see spending $80 every 6 months for no reason. Does anyone have any inside information or real experience regarding these things? How can I tell when they really need to be changed? Am I being reasonably frugal or risking my life? I've used RO filters for years. The recommended filter change intervals are extremely conservative. The R.O. membrane eventually gets clogged to the point where production slows significantly. The other stages are more on volume than time but obviously they are not installing a flow meter. Same on those refrigerator water filter cartridges. Very conservative and assuming high volume usage. Hi, Our under the counter-top installed RO filter system for drinking/cooking water has paper roll pre-filter GAC(granular carbon filter carbon block RO membrane polishing filter UV light. For family of two and a dog, I replace filters once a year, RO membrane once every two years. RO membrane has different total capacity rating which dictates replacement interval and GPM flow rate. When I installed it, I secured a box of filters and dozen RO membrane. |
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