I'm kinda getting sick and tired of our Canadian Prime Minister, Mr. Stephen Harper, going to other countries and promising them a whole bunch of money and aid when that money and aid is needed right here in Canada.

I'm not a veteran, but my understanding is that Canada, just like most other countries, treats it's veterans like dirt. There's all the parades and the noise made about how all these men (and women) were and are heros, but where the rubber hits the road, and money is needed, it's just not there. Here in Canada, the federal government is closing a bunch of Veteran's Affairs offices across the country ostensibly to save money.

But, at the same time they've announced that they will be giving a pile of money and aid to the Phillipines because of the recent typhoon that tore through the Phillipines.

I can't be the only that sees something wrong there. Why can't our government spend money raised in Canada on Canadians and give a great big heartfelt "Our thoughts and prayers are with you." to the Phillipinos?

On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 03:06:21 +0100, nestork
wrote:

I'm kinda getting sick and tired of our Canadian Prime Minister, Mr.
Stephen Harper, going to other countries and promising them a whole
bunch of money and aid when that money and aid is needed right here in
Canada.

Snip

Quit your whining. I know little or nothing about your politicians,
but I'll trade our Dickwad-in-chief for your Stephen Harper in a heart
beat! Is it a deal?

On 12/13/2014 9:06 PM, nestork wrote:
I'm kinda getting sick and tired of our Canadian Prime Minister, Mr.
Stephen Harper, going to other countries and promising them a whole
bunch of money and aid when that money and aid is needed right here in
Canada.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOR38552MJA

nestork wrote:
I'm kinda getting sick and tired of our Canadian Prime Minister, Mr.
Stephen Harper, going to other countries and promising them a whole
bunch of money and aid when that money and aid is needed right here in
Canada.

I'm not a veteran, but my understanding is that Canada, just like most
other countries, treats it's veterans like dirt. There's all the
parades and the noise made about how all these men (and women) were
and are heros, but where the rubber hits the road, and money is
needed, it's just not there. Here in Canada, the federal government
is closing a bunch of Veteran's Affairs offices across the country
ostensibly to save money.

But, at the same time they've announced that they will be giving a
pile of money and aid to the Phillipines because of the recent
typhoon that tore through the Phillipines.

I can't be the only that recognizes that there's need for that money
right here at home in Canada. Sure, I'm sorry that they had a
typhoon, but money from Canadian tax payers should be spent right
here in Canada helping Canadians. Ditto for the USA.

Why can't our government spend money raised in Canada on Canadians and
give a great big heartfelt "Our thoughts and prayers are with you." to
the Phillipinos?

Didn't snip a thing because I agree . Example : We have bridges all
over the USA that are in dire need of repairs that we can't afford because
we're sending aid to countries all over the world who hate our guts . And
what's up with this Wounded Warrior Project , shouldn't the government that
got these kids maimed pay for their care and appliances legs/arms/etc ?
On the bright side , I saw today where the budget had cuts to a couple of
agencies that didn't comply with congressional directives ... but I'd bet
they don't offset the pork that got added at the last minute .
--
Snag

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message
...
nestork wrote:
I'm kinda getting sick and tired of our Canadian Prime Minister, Mr.
Stephen Harper, going to other countries and promising them a whole
bunch of money and aid when that money and aid is needed right here in
Canada.

I'm not a veteran, but my understanding is that Canada, just like most
other countries, treats it's veterans like dirt. There's all the
parades and the noise made about how all these men (and women) were
and are heros, but where the rubber hits the road, and money is
needed, it's just not there. Here in Canada, the federal government
is closing a bunch of Veteran's Affairs offices across the country
ostensibly to save money.

But, at the same time they've announced that they will be giving a
pile of money and aid to the Phillipines because of the recent
typhoon that tore through the Phillipines.

I can't be the only that recognizes that there's need for that money
right here at home in Canada. Sure, I'm sorry that they had a
typhoon, but money from Canadian tax payers should be spent right
here in Canada helping Canadians. Ditto for the USA.

Why can't our government spend money raised in Canada on Canadians and
give a great big heartfelt "Our thoughts and prayers are with you." to
the Phillipinos?

Didn't snip a thing because I agree . Example : We have bridges all
over the USA that are in dire need of repairs that we can't afford because
we're sending aid to countries all over the world who hate our guts . And
what's up with this Wounded Warrior Project , shouldn't the government
that
got these kids maimed pay for their care and appliances legs/arms/etc ?
On the bright side , I saw today where the budget had cuts to a couple
of
agencies that didn't comply with congressional directives ... but I'd bet
they don't offset the pork that got added at the last minute .
--
Government cuts only mean the rate of increase is less than planned.
Example.
HHS increase plan.$1 billion. Increase is actually $600 million.
By gov. standards that is a 40 percent cut.

On Saturday, December 13, 2014 9:17:12 PM UTC-5, nestork wrote:
I'm kinda getting sick and tired of our Canadian Prime Minister, Mr.
Stephen Harper, going to other countries and promising them a whole
bunch of money and aid when that money and aid is needed right here in
Canada.

I'm not a veteran, but my understanding is that Canada, just like most
other countries, treats it's veterans like dirt. There's all the
parades and the noise made about how all these men (and women) were and
are heros, but where the rubber hits the road, and money is needed, it's
just not there. Here in Canada, the federal government is closing a
bunch of Veteran's Affairs offices across the country ostensibly to save
money.

But, at the same time they've announced that they will be giving a pile
of money and aid to the Phillipines because of the recent typhoon that
tore through the Phillipines.

I can't be the only that recognizes that there's need for that money
right here at home in Canada. Sure, I'm sorry that they had a typhoon,
but money from Canadian tax payers should be spent right here in Canada
helping Canadians. Ditto for the USA.

Why can't our government spend money raised in Canada on Canadians and
give a great big heartfelt "Our thoughts and prayers are with you." to
the Phillipinos?




--
nestork

I'm sure if you look at the actual numbers, Canada, like the USA is
spending huge amounts on it's own country, helping it's own citizens
and the amount going to the typhoon victims is very small in comparison.

You can always make the argument that more should go to some group that
seems worthy, but to say that should be done to the exclusion of all else
doesn't seem like a good idea to me. Historically, leading countries of
the world have responded to the various disasters around the world and
I don't see a problem with it. At least it's a worthy cause. Apparently
Canada is sending $40mil in govt aid to the Philipines. Diane Feinsten
and the Democrats just spent that amount on the totally wasted investigation
into the CIA. For $40 mil, all she did was rehash the same stuff that we
already had heard 6 years ago, drag her own country through the dirt
one more time, and put lives at risk, particularly our armed forces fighting
abroad. I'd much rather that money went to the Philipines, where at least
it would do some good.
ago and drag

On 12/14/2014 06:42 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Didn't snip a thing because I agree . Example : We have bridges all
over the USA that are in dire need of repairs that we can't afford because
we're sending aid to countries all over the world who hate our guts .

First and foremost, I agree with what you've stated but....

it could be argued that we, the willing dupes that we are, go to our local
big-box superstore and choose to buy "trade deficit" products because they
are a few pennies cheaper than domestic products.

So really, if "We The People" are willing to slit our own throats,
should we expect anything else from our government?

On Sunday, December 14, 2014 8:45:18 AM UTC-5, Taxpayer wrote:
On 12/14/2014 06:42 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Didn't snip a thing because I agree . Example : We have bridges all
over the USA that are in dire need of repairs that we can't afford because
we're sending aid to countries all over the world who hate our guts .

First and foremost, I agree with what you've stated but....

it could be argued that we, the willing dupes that we are, go to our local
big-box superstore and choose to buy "trade deficit" products because they
are a few pennies cheaper than domestic products.

So really, if "We The People" are willing to slit our own throats,
should we expect anything else from our government?

I think the problem there is that in most cases the products aren't
just a few pennies cheaper, there is a substantial difference. And in
many cases, you can't find a particular product made in America anymore
at all, or if it does exist, you won't find it at your local HD,
Walmart, hardware store, etc. when you need it.

Taxpayer wrote:
On 12/14/2014 06:42 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Didn't snip a thing because I agree . Example : We have bridges
all over the USA that are in dire need of repairs that we can't
afford because we're sending aid to countries all over the world who
hate our guts .

First and foremost, I agree with what you've stated but....

it could be argued that we, the willing dupes that we are, go to our
local big-box superstore and choose to buy "trade deficit" products
because they are a few pennies cheaper than domestic products.

So really, if "We The People" are willing to slit our own throats,
should we expect anything else from our government?

If the price is close , I'll buy USA products - the problem is that we cut
our own throats by allowing the unions to hijack manufacturing . Now don't
get me wrong , I believe that unions did a world of good for the laborers of
our country , but I also believe they went way too far in some cases . The
unions , as our government did , grew too big and wielded too much power .
It's not that power corrupts as much as it is that power attracts the
corruptible ...
And you could also say that we've been forced into buying foreign goods by
the corporations that moved manufacturing overseas to save a few pennies per
unit - which let them lower the retail price while also increasing profits .
--
Snag

On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 03:06:21 +0100, nestork
wrote:



I feel your pain...

"2014 Pig Book Summary:

The 2014 Congressional Pig Book Summary gives a snapshot of each
appropriations bill and details the juiciest projects culled from the
complete Pig Book. (PDF.)

http://cagw.org/sites/default/files/pdf/Pig%20Book%2014.pdf

.....
Senator Tom Coburn, OK published his Wasetbook:

Wastebook 2014: Government Paid $10,000 To Watch Grass Grow, And
Others Ways Your Money Was Spent This Year

Some highlights (or lowlights) from the 2014 Wastebook as shared by
Senator Coburn

Coast guard party patrols – $100,000
Watching grass grow – $10,000
State department tweets @ terrorists – $3 million
Swedish massages for rabbits – $387,000 [at The Ohio State
University]
Paid vacations for bureaucrats gone wild – $20 million
Mountain lions on a treadmill – $856,000
Synchronized swimming for sea monkeys – $50,000
Pentagon to destroy $16 billion in unused ammunition — $1 billion
Scientists hope monkey gambling unlocks secrets of free will
–$171,000
Rich and famous rent out their luxury pads tax free – $10 million
Studying “angry” spouses stabbing voodoo dolls – $331,000
Promoting U.S. culture around the globe with nose flutists – $90
million

http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/pressreleases?ContentRecord_id=f9478504-be7e-4b8f-9ef8-baa0895a9579

You think Canada has problems with politicians? Really ?

"nestork" wrote in message
...

I'm kinda getting sick and tired of our Canadian Prime Minister, Mr.
Stephen Harper, going to other countries and promising them a whole
bunch of money and aid when that money and aid is needed right here in
Canada.

I'm not a veteran, but my understanding is that Canada, just like most
other countries, treats it's veterans like dirt. There's all the
parades and the noise made about how all these men (and women) were and
are heros, but where the rubber hits the road, and money is needed, it's
just not there. Here in Canada, the federal government is closing a
bunch of Veteran's Affairs offices across the country ostensibly to save
money.

But, at the same time they've announced that they will be giving a pile
of money and aid to the Phillipines because of the recent typhoon that
tore through the Phillipines.

I can't be the only that recognizes that there's need for that money
right here at home in Canada. Sure, I'm sorry that they had a typhoon,
but money from Canadian tax payers should be spent right here in Canada
helping Canadians. Ditto for the USA.

Why can't our government spend money raised in Canada on Canadians and
give a great big heartfelt "Our thoughts and prayers are with you." to
the Phillipinos?


I would rather have a small portion of our tax dollars (paid in by
relatively few people) given to victims of a natural disaster than the large
portion of our tax dollars given month after month, year after year, to
deadbeats, ne'er-do-wells, and malcontents here at home.

On 12/14/2014 9:31 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Taxpayer wrote:
On 12/14/2014 06:42 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Didn't snip a thing because I agree . Example : We have bridges
all over the USA that are in dire need of repairs that we can't
afford because we're sending aid to countries all over the world who
hate our guts .

First and foremost, I agree with what you've stated but....

it could be argued that we, the willing dupes that we are, go to our
local big-box superstore and choose to buy "trade deficit" products
because they are a few pennies cheaper than domestic products.

So really, if "We The People" are willing to slit our own throats,
should we expect anything else from our government?

If the price is close , I'll buy USA products - the problem is that we cut
our own throats by allowing the unions to hijack manufacturing . Now don't
get me wrong , I believe that unions did a world of good for the laborers of
our country , but I also believe they went way too far in some cases . The
unions , as our government did , grew too big and wielded too much power .
It's not that power corrupts as much as it is that power attracts the
corruptible ...
And you could also say that we've been forced into buying foreign goods by
the corporations that moved manufacturing overseas to save a few pennies per
unit - which let them lower the retail price while also increasing profits .


Wife criticizes me for buying eye glasses from Zenni optical in China.
She buys glasses here and guess what, glass case says, "Made in China."
Not only that, but her last pair of glasses took 2 weeks. I've gotten
them in a week from China.

All things being equal, I'll buy American but they are no where near equal.

FYI, my savings are spent on American beer

nestork wrote:
I'm kinda getting sick and tired of our Canadian Prime Minister, Mr.
Stephen Harper, going to other countries and promising them a whole
bunch of money and aid when that money and aid is needed right here in
Canada.

I'm not a veteran, but my understanding is that Canada, just like most
other countries, treats it's veterans like dirt. There's all the
parades and the noise made about how all these men (and women) were and
are heros, but where the rubber hits the road, and money is needed, it's
just not there. Here in Canada, the federal government is closing a
bunch of Veteran's Affairs offices across the country ostensibly to save
money.

But, at the same time they've announced that they will be giving a pile
of money and aid to the Phillipines because of the recent typhoon that
tore through the Phillipines.

I can't be the only that recognizes that there's need for that money
right here at home in Canada. Sure, I'm sorry that they had a typhoon,
but money from Canadian tax payers should be spent right here in Canada
helping Canadians. Ditto for the USA.

Why can't our government spend money raised in Canada on Canadians and
give a great big heartfelt "Our thoughts and prayers are with you." to
the Phillipinos?




I don't know enough about Canada to form an opinion about them, but I do
know that the US treats our veterans pretty well. Who do you think
provides all those prosthetics to veterans who suffered an injury in
service? The list of benefits is long, and I think you don't want to
confuse your whine with facts.

Many knowledgeable people criticize the US for being such a rich country
but being relatively tight fisted with humanitarian aid. That may be
because they don't know about the money Americans give through
charities. I think most Americans prefer having some control over where
their money goes, and we have seen too many situations where our
government has screwed up its attempts to provide humanitarian aid, and
too much money disappearing into the pockets of politicians. Most of
our foreign aid goes to political aims; we want some country to do
something (give women the vote, for example) and promise them aid if
they will do it.

I think our government should, with one exception, get completely out of
the humanitarian aid business, lower our taxes, and let each of us
decide if we want to help the world, and how much.

The exception is that the Defense department should respond to
catastrophes. I advocate this as a way to develop and maintain the
skills of our military. We should avoid, if possible, wars, but
maintain the forces necessary to fight a war, and those needed skills
could be maintained by responding to situations where people need help.

On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 14:41:33 -0500, Frank
wrote:

Wife criticizes me for buying eye glasses from Zenni optical in China.
She buys glasses here and guess what, glass case says, "Made in China."
Not only that, but her last pair of glasses took 2 weeks. I've gotten
them in a week from China.

All things being equal, I'll buy American but they are no where near equal.

FYI, my savings are spent on American beer

You just can't buy Tennessee sour mash whiskey or Kentucky bourbon
from China, huh?

I can give you a URL link for a copper moonshine still kit that is
made in America

I'm not a veteran, but my understanding is that Canada, just like most
other countries, treats it's veterans like dirt.

Well if someone is dumb enough to fall for the patriotic b.s. and
volunteers to "serve", they deserve to be treated like dirt.

Zak W wrote:
I'm not a veteran, but my understanding is that Canada, just like
most other countries, treats it's veterans like dirt.

Well if someone is dumb enough to fall for the patriotic b.s. and
volunteers to "serve", they deserve to be treated like dirt.

And you don't deserve the freedom and rights defended by those who served
and died . Go live in Somalia or some other ******** if you don't think our
way of life is worth defending .
We ain't perfect , but it's still the best place in the world to live IMO
..
--
Snag
Assuming you're in the USA ...

On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 07:08:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Zak W wrote:
I'm not a veteran, but my understanding is that Canada, just like
most other countries, treats it's veterans like dirt.

Well if someone is dumb enough to fall for the patriotic b.s. and
volunteers to "serve", they deserve to be treated like dirt.

And you don't deserve the freedom and rights defended by those who served
and died . Go live in Somalia or some other ******** if you don't think our
way of life is worth defending .
We ain't perfect , but it's still the best place in the world to live IMO
.

+10

"trader_4" wrote in message
...
On Monday, December 15, 2014 4:29:49 PM UTC-5, No name wrote:
trader_4 wrote:
On Sunday, December 14, 2014 3:06:04 PM UTC-5, No name wrote:

I don't know enough about Canada to form an opinion about them, but I
do
know that the US treats our veterans pretty well. Who do you think
provides all those prosthetics to veterans who suffered an injury in
service? The list of benefits is long, and I think you don't want to
confuse your whine with facts.

Wow, the VA gives you a prosthetic when you lose a limb in service
to the country. I'm impressed. Of course if that injury ocurred
while working for a US company, you'd likely get not only a prosthetic,
but also $1mil to go with it. And you wouldn't have to rely on Wounded
Warriors to provided you with a motorized wheelchair.

In point of fact, if you lose a limb while in the service, even off
duty, you get a prosthetic, money, education, and much more. If you
lose a limb while working for a US company, you get nothing if it was
off duty.
If it was on duty, you buy your own prosthetic, and sue the
company, with a lawyer who will take a big chunk of what you win, and
you learn about workers' compensation laws, which sharply limit what you
can get. You can't really be that ignorant.

Baloney. Most of the workers who lose a limb at work are covered
by medical insurance.

workers comp.

==============

If you are a federal worker, you are covered by the Federal Employee
Compensation Act (FECA). Typically, workers' comp will provide 66 and 2/3
percent of your monthly wages if you have complete lost a limb or finger as
in amputation, or have completely lost all use of the limb. Amputation or
complete loss of function of a body part is considered a permanent, total
disability and you will be warded 100% of the benefits according to the
schedule. The amount of time you can receive workers' comp benefits for your
injury is broken down by 20 different body parts, for example:



a.. Loss of a leg is worth 288 weeks of workers' comp benefits
b.. Loss of first finger is worth 46 weeks of workers' comp benefits
c.. Loss of an arm is worth 312 weeks of workers' comp benefits


If you have only lost 25% of use of your limb or finger, then you're
entitled to the number of weeks according to the schedule for the body part
injured, multiplied by 25%. If you lost 25% use of your leg, for example,
you would be entitled to 288 x 25% weeks of compensation; or 72 weeks of
workers' comp benefits.

"Reggie" wrote in :



a.. Loss of a leg is worth 288 weeks of workers' comp benefits
b.. Loss of first finger is worth 46 weeks of workers' comp benefits
c.. Loss of an arm is worth 312 weeks of workers' comp benefits




How about loss of a penis? Got to be worth at least 23,565,211,354,975
weeks.

And, as so often happens in mathematics, a singularity occurs at the complete loss of a head, by amputation, decapitation or any other means.

Despite the head being of relative importance to the normal function of a federal employee, complete loss of a head is not listed on the schedule, and therefore warrants no weeks of worker's compensation.

On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:17:10 PM UTC-5, nestork wrote:
And, as so often happens in mathematics, a singularity occurs at the
complete loss of a head, by amputation, decapitation or any other
means.

Despite the head being of relative importance to the normal function of
a federal employee, complete loss of a head is not listed on the
schedule, and therefore warrants no weeks of worker's compensation.




--
nestork

Nestor speaks from experience.