Welp, I'm still poking and digging around the front and not found the main cleanout yet. Any suggestions or wise cracks would be appreciated.

From the plumbing code and the city sewer dude, it should be either in an outside wall or within 3 feet from the house. If underground, it is supposed to extend to grade. Nothing yet.

There is an "X" mark on the curb 3-ft south of the water meter - this is where the city dude said the main it likely to be. Straight line from there to the house is an obvious place, but no cleanout that I could find.

About 15 feet north of the meter is a brass tag fastened to the curb engraved with LS and a number. A line from there to the house would run straight into the garage. Thru the garage are both bathrooms and drain in garage. No cleanouts on the outside wall or the wall between garage and house.

Will call the city Monday and ask if that could be it. Either way, I'm going to take a trip to the city and see what kind of plans they have for this house. Been wanting to do this for a long time.

For info, here's the Calif Plumbing Code Chapter 7 - Drainage.
707 is cleanouts...
http://www.iapmo.org/California%20Pl...apter%2007.pdf

On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 11:33:04 -0700, "Guv Bob"
wrote:

Any suggestions or wise cracks would be appreciated.

Trader suggested having a peek in your crawlspace. If you can't
comfortably get in there, try using a mirror at the opening. You may
be able to locate the cleanout plug by doing so.

/ wise crack off

On Sunday, September 28, 2014 2:51:17 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 11:33:04 -0700, "Guv Bob"

wrote:



Any suggestions or wise cracks would be appreciated.



Trader suggested having a peek in your crawlspace. If you can't

comfortably get in there, try using a mirror at the opening. You may

be able to locate the cleanout plug by doing so.



/ wise crack off

I think he'd just rather start yet another thread on the same problem....

Going by what code says, what the city says should be, wouldn't be my
first line of approach. I've yet to see a code that says where exactly
from the house the pipe has to exit. Crap goes in crapper. Follow path of crap,
to extent possible, to where it leaves the house. House has crawlspace,
it's not built on a slab. And typically there is a cleanout, probably
required by code, at last point inside the house perimeter where it leaves.

On Sunday, September 28, 2014 3:00:23 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Sunday, September 28, 2014 2:51:17 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:

On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 11:33:04 -0700, "Guv Bob"



wrote:







Any suggestions or wise cracks would be appreciated.







Trader suggested having a peek in your crawlspace. If you can't



comfortably get in there, try using a mirror at the opening. You may



be able to locate the cleanout plug by doing so.







/ wise crack off



I think he'd just rather start yet another thread on the same problem....



Going by what code says, what the city says should be, wouldn't be my

first line of approach. I've yet to see a code that says where exactly

from the house the pipe has to exit. Crap goes in crapper. Follow path of crap,

to extent possible, to where it leaves the house. House has crawlspace,

it's not built on a slab. And typically there is a cleanout, probably

required by code, at last point inside the house perimeter where it leaves.

get the line inspected with a camera. often one of those 99 buck snake and camera deals.

which begs the question why do you want to know?

"bob haller" wrote in message ...
On Sunday, September 28, 2014 3:00:23 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Sunday, September 28, 2014 2:51:17 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:

On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 11:33:04 -0700, "Guv Bob"



wrote:







Any suggestions or wise cracks would be appreciated.







Trader suggested having a peek in your crawlspace. If you can't



comfortably get in there, try using a mirror at the opening. You may



be able to locate the cleanout plug by doing so.







/ wise crack off



I think he'd just rather start yet another thread on the same problem....



Going by what code says, what the city says should be, wouldn't be my

first line of approach. I've yet to see a code that says where exactly

from the house the pipe has to exit. Crap goes in crapper. Follow path of crap,

to extent possible, to where it leaves the house. House has crawlspace,

it's not built on a slab. And typically there is a cleanout, probably

required by code, at last point inside the house perimeter where it leaves.

get the line inspected with a camera. often one of those 99 buck snake and camera deals.

which begs the question why do you want to know?

Know what?

In news Guv Bob typed:
Welp, I'm still poking and digging around the front and not found the
main cleanout yet. Any suggestions or wise cracks would be
appreciated.
. . . ,
There is an "X" mark on the curb 3-ft south of the water meter - this
is where the city dude said the main it likely to be. Straight line
from there to the house is an obvious place, but no cleanout that I
could find.

I usually find the curb vent or sewer cleanout to be near the curb, maybe a
foot or two in from the curb, although I do have one property in
Pennsylvania where it is located in the middle of the front yard. They are
usually at or near the surface, or maybe as much as 4 or 5 inches down if
the grass has grown and built up that area of ground over the years.

The other thing that I do is I look to see if my neighbors have exposed
sewer cleanouts and I look at where they are located in relation to the curb
line. By doing that, I found that one sewer cleanout was on the front lawn
right before the sidewalk (about a foot in) rather than next to the curb --
and I figured that out because that's where the neighbor's cleanout is
located.

When searching, I use something thin like an ice pick or a long thin
screwdriver since I have never found any cleanout or access cover to be more
than a few inches under the ground.

In many towns, if you tell them you are having problems with the sewer line
drainage and that you can't seem to locate the curb vent, they will come out
and find it for you for free.

Curb markings are usually color coded. Green paint means sewer line. Blue
means water. Yellow means natrural gas, etc.

Here's a link with the U.S.A. color codes under "United States":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utility_location

On Sunday, September 28, 2014 2:33:04 PM UTC-4, Guv Bob wrote:
Welp, I'm still poking and digging around the front and not found the main cleanout yet. Any suggestions or wise cracks would be appreciated.



From the plumbing code and the city sewer dude, it should be either in an outside wall or within 3 feet from the house. If underground, it is supposed to extend to grade. Nothing yet.



There is an "X" mark on the curb 3-ft south of the water meter - this is where the city dude said the main it likely to be. Straight line from there to the house is an obvious place, but no cleanout that I could find.



About 15 feet north of the meter is a brass tag fastened to the curb engraved with LS and a number. A line from there to the house would run straight into the garage. Thru the garage are both bathrooms and drain in garage.. No cleanouts on the outside wall or the wall between garage and house.



Will call the city Monday and ask if that could be it. Either way, I'm going to take a trip to the city and see what kind of plans they have for this house. Been wanting to do this for a long time.



For info, here's the Calif Plumbing Code Chapter 7 - Drainage.

707 is cleanouts...

http://www.iapmo.org/California%20Pl...apter%2007.pdf

If the pipe or lid of the cleanout are metal, you should be able to find it with a metal detector. If it's all clay, that won't work.