Looking to refurbish an old deck. Deck is 30+ years old built entirely
of pressure-treated 2x lumber. Despite our (semig) best efforts it
looks like hell with checking, some warping and popped nails. Overall,
deck is quite sound, just looks awful.

As only a handful of deck boards need replacement to provide a solid,
flat surface, I'm looking seriously at the composite QuickCap system
from Menard's. (manufactured by UltraDeck or Midwest Manufacturing, Inc.)

Seems to be a pretty nice system with the color all the way through it
and, having bought a small amount to "test" for "how it lays atop the
old decking" I think it likely will do the trick.

What I am wondering about is what sort of experience others have had
with this specific product or similar "capping" systems from any other
manufacturers?

I know that it will weather but does it still look decent after...

Any one out there with some information? Warnings? Cautions? Suggestions?

On Saturday, May 17, 2014 6:49:57 PM UTC-5, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
Looking to refurbish an old deck. Deck is 30+ years old built entirely of pressure-treated 2x lumber. Despite our (semig) best efforts it looks like hell with checking, some warping and popped nails. Overall, deck is quite sound, just looks awful. As only a handful of deck boards need replacement to provide a solid, flat surface, I'm looking seriously at the composite QuickCap system from Menard's. (manufactured by UltraDeck or Midwest Manufacturing, Inc.) Seems to be a pretty nice system with the color all the way through it and, having bought a small amount to "test" for "how it lays atop the old decking" I think it likely will do the trick. What I am wondering about is what sort of experience others have had with this specific product or similar "capping" systems from any other manufacturers? I know that it will weather but does it still look decent after... Any one out there with some information? Warnings? Cautions? Suggestions?

On 5/17/2014 6:49 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
Looking to refurbish an old deck. Deck is 30+ years old built entirely
of pressure-treated 2x lumber. Despite our (semig) best efforts it
looks like hell with checking, some warping and popped nails. Overall,
deck is quite sound, just looks awful.

As only a handful of deck boards need replacement to provide a solid,
flat surface, I'm looking seriously at the composite QuickCap system
from Menard's. (manufactured by UltraDeck or Midwest Manufacturing, Inc.)

Seems to be a pretty nice system with the color all the way through it
and, having bought a small amount to "test" for "how it lays atop the
old decking" I think it likely will do the trick.

What I am wondering about is what sort of experience others have had
with this specific product or similar "capping" systems from any other
manufacturers?

I know that it will weather but does it still look decent after...

Any one out there with some information? Warnings? Cautions? Suggestions?

I'd do the math on Rustoleum Deck & Concrete repair just to be sure.
Might be a lot cheaper to go that route. That stuff is incredibly tough
but it does have to be applied as directed, which can make it an
expensive proposition. It will fill a lot of cracks on it's own but it
really depends on the condition of your deck. RD&CR is basically VERY
thick epoxy "like" paint. It sticks to whatever you apply it to as long
as you follow the instructions to the letter. Obviously you'd have to
do the repairs like warped boards and popping nails first. The RD&CR
will cover the minor checking.

On 5/18/2014 11:21 AM, gonjah wrote:
On 5/17/2014 6:49 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:

I know that it will weather but does it still look decent after...

Any one out there with some information? Warnings? Cautions?
Suggestions?

I'd do the math on Rustoleum Deck & Concrete repair just to be sure.
Might be a lot cheaper to go that route. That stuff is incredibly tough
but it does have to be applied as directed, which can make it an
expensive proposition. It will fill a lot of cracks on it's own but it
really depends on the condition of your deck. RD&CR is basically VERY
thick epoxy "like" paint. It sticks to whatever you apply it to as long
as you follow the instructions to the letter. Obviously you'd have to
do the repairs like warped boards and popping nails first. The RD&CR
will cover the minor checking.

Thanks, but SWMBO originally spotted the Rustoleum product last year
and, fortunately, did not buy it as she was seriously considering it
until... She did some Google searching this year and while your point
about following the directions to the letter bears directly on this, her
research found almost no one who was happy with the product.

She generally does her due diligence before making any major purchase
and rarely, she says, has she seen a product to thoroughly bashed by users.

FWIW, the QuickCap will run, I estimating, about $1.05 to $1.10 per
lineal foot of 3½" planking including the special fasteners.

On 5/18/2014 3:05 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
On 5/18/2014 11:21 AM, gonjah wrote:
On 5/17/2014 6:49 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:

I know that it will weather but does it still look decent after...

Any one out there with some information? Warnings? Cautions?
Suggestions?

I'd do the math on Rustoleum Deck & Concrete repair just to be sure.
Might be a lot cheaper to go that route. That stuff is incredibly tough
but it does have to be applied as directed, which can make it an
expensive proposition. It will fill a lot of cracks on it's own but it
really depends on the condition of your deck. RD&CR is basically VERY
thick epoxy "like" paint. It sticks to whatever you apply it to as long
as you follow the instructions to the letter. Obviously you'd have to
do the repairs like warped boards and popping nails first. The RD&CR
will cover the minor checking.

Thanks, but SWMBO originally spotted the Rustoleum product last year
and, fortunately, did not buy it as she was seriously considering it
until... She did some Google searching this year and while your point
about following the directions to the letter bears directly on this, her
research found almost no one who was happy with the product.

She generally does her due diligence before making any major purchase
and rarely, she says, has she seen a product to thoroughly bashed by users.

FWIW, the QuickCap will run, I estimating, about $1.05 to $1.10 per
lineal foot of 3½" planking including the special fasteners.




It's a big negative for almost any product that has specific detailed
instructions that have to be followed. The average American's reading
level is somewhere in the lower middle school range. I'll admit I had to
use the website's video to really understand it.

RD&CR isn't a cheap fix anyway, but I'm going to finish my deck with it
after actually testing it in a very high traffic area first. I'm even
thinking of using it on my siding. Done correctly, the finish comes out
as advertised. Done incorrectly it's anyone's guess.

The funniest negative comment about RD&CR I saw was one from a
"contractor". It was a hoot. He admits he didn't follow the directions
and went on to post a video on youboob about how lame the product is.

meh

On 5/18/2014 4:47 PM, gonjah wrote:
On 5/18/2014 3:05 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:

Thanks, but SWMBO originally spotted the Rustoleum product last year
and, fortunately, did not buy it as she was seriously considering it
until... She did some Google searching this year and while your point
about following the directions to the letter bears directly on this, her
research found almost no one who was happy with the product.

She generally does her due diligence before making any major purchase
and rarely, she says, has she seen a product to thoroughly bashed by
users.

FWIW, the QuickCap will run, I estimating, about $1.05 to $1.10 per
lineal foot of 3½" planking including the special fasteners.




It's a big negative for almost any product that has specific detailed
instructions that have to be followed. The average American's reading
level is somewhere in the lower middle school range. I'll admit I had to
use the website's video to really understand it.

RD&CR isn't a cheap fix anyway, but I'm going to finish my deck with it
after actually testing it in a very high traffic area first. I'm even
thinking of using it on my siding. Done correctly, the finish comes out
as advertised. Done incorrectly it's anyone's guess.

The funniest negative comment about RD&CR I saw was one from a
"contractor". It was a hoot. He admits he didn't follow the directions
and went on to post a video on youboob about how lame the product is.

When I mentioned your post to SWMBO, and my response, she commented that
all the complaints she read (or the greatest majority) came from folks
who explicitly stated that they HAD followed the instructions to the letter.

She also mentioned that quite a few got one good season out of the
application (last year) and then it flaked off after the winter.

I wonder if the severe winter, coupled with a saturated wood deck was
enough to break the bond between the Rustoleum coating and the wood?
Freeze-Thaw cycle, etc.?

Not that it will make any difference, I couldn't put the Rustoleum
product on the deck if they were giving it away.

There is that Supreme Directive to contend with... If Mama ain't happy,
ain't NOBODY happy!g

In any event, I hope it works out for you.

I bought about 12 sq ft of the QuickCap and will install it over some of
the rougher areas of the deck to see what, if anything, telegraphs
through to get some idea of just how persnickity I'll have to be about
the underlying surface if we decide to run with it.

On 5/18/2014 6:49 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
On 5/18/2014 4:47 PM, gonjah wrote:
On 5/18/2014 3:05 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:

Thanks, but SWMBO originally spotted the Rustoleum product last year
and, fortunately, did not buy it as she was seriously considering it
until... She did some Google searching this year and while your point
about following the directions to the letter bears directly on
this, her
research found almost no one who was happy with the product.

She generally does her due diligence before making any major purchase
and rarely, she says, has she seen a product to thoroughly bashed by
users.

FWIW, the QuickCap will run, I estimating, about $1.05 to $1.10 per
lineal foot of 3½" planking including the special fasteners.




It's a big negative for almost any product that has specific detailed
instructions that have to be followed. The average American's reading
level is somewhere in the lower middle school range. I'll admit I had to
use the website's video to really understand it.

RD&CR isn't a cheap fix anyway, but I'm going to finish my deck with it
after actually testing it in a very high traffic area first. I'm even
thinking of using it on my siding. Done correctly, the finish comes out
as advertised. Done incorrectly it's anyone's guess.

The funniest negative comment about RD&CR I saw was one from a
"contractor". It was a hoot. He admits he didn't follow the directions
and went on to post a video on youboob about how lame the product is.

When I mentioned your post to SWMBO, and my response, she commented that
all the complaints she read (or the greatest majority) came from folks
who explicitly stated that they HAD followed the instructions to the
letter.


I put it on last fall. We had a rough winter (as we all know), and it's
still on there like stink on ****.

She also mentioned that quite a few got one good season out of the
application (last year) and then it flaked off after the winter.

I wonder if the severe winter, coupled with a saturated wood deck was
enough to break the bond between the Rustoleum coating and the wood?
Freeze-Thaw cycle, etc.?

Not that it will make any difference, I couldn't put the Rustoleum
product on the deck if they were giving it away.

There is that Supreme Directive to contend with... If Mama ain't happy,
ain't NOBODY happy!g


I'm with you there. I've had to tear a couple of jobs back apart and do
them over because they didn't pass inspection.


In any event, I hope it works out for you.

I bought about 12 sq ft of the QuickCap and will install it over some of
the rougher areas of the deck to see what, if anything, telegraphs
through to get some idea of just how persnickity I'll have to be about
the underlying surface if we decide to run with it.



Hope it works out for you.

On Sun, 18 May 2014 15:05:04 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
wrote:




FWIW, the QuickCap will run, I estimating, about $1.05 to $1.10 per
lineal foot of 3½" planking including the special fasteners.



And you still have 30 year old wood under it that can turn to crap in
the next year or two.

I'd take the decking up and replace it with new wood. I did that last
year and it looks fantastic. I used tiger wood. Should last 50+
years with no treatment, more with. I won't last that long.

replying to gonjah, Tomh wrote:
I put on the Rustoleum in 2012 and it completely failed . They are being sued
as they claim it has a 13 year warranty.

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