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Anyone under 60 and healthy?
Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and
healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? Seems not, except for me. |
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On 2/2/2014 4:20 AM, Zaky Waky wrote:
Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? Seems not, except for me. Wait... just wait! |
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Zaky Waky wrote:
Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? Seems not, except for me. Well , I'm only 62 - in 2 weeks . But the only meds I take are over the counter for back pain , and I don't take those every day . Actually , since I made the decision to heat with wood I've dropped about 10-15 pounds and toned everything up . I'm almost back down to where I was for 30+ years before I quit smoking cigs , at a svelte 135 lbs . Swinging a sledge at a wedge is good exercise , and swinging a splitting maul could be considered aerobic ! -- Snag |
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Perfect health.
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On 02/02/2014 07:17 AM, Daring Dufas: Hypocrite TeaBillie on welfare wrote:
Perfect health. Yep , me too. Other than being over 60 and having had both of my knees replaced, I'm in perfect health. The last time I had anything worse than a cold was 1955. |
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On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 08:00:31 -0600, philo* wrote:
On 02/02/2014 07:17 AM, Daring Dufas: Hypocrite TeaBillie on welfare wrote: Perfect health. Yep , me too. Other than being over 60 and having had both of my knees replaced, I'm in perfect health. The last time I had anything worse than a cold was 1955. I caught that one too. I remember it well. Boss sent me home early from the coal-mines. Said I was spoiling the merchandize with my sneezes. Who wants snotty coal ? []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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On 02/02/2014 08:54 AM, Shadow wrote:
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 08:00:31 -0600, philo wrote: On 02/02/2014 07:17 AM, Daring Dufas: Hypocrite TeaBillie on welfare wrote: Perfect health. Yep , me too. Other than being over 60 and having had both of my knees replaced, I'm in perfect health. The last time I had anything worse than a cold was 1955. I caught that one too. I remember it well. Boss sent me home early from the coal-mines. Said I was spoiling the merchandize with my sneezes. Who wants snotty coal ? []'s Well in my case it was bacterial meningitis and they loaded me up with penicillin and I was fine. The doctor had been very busy and told my dad he could not make it until afternoon...but on a hunch came early. He told my dad that by afternoon it would have been too late. Sheesh, I did not see what the big deal was. I woke up paralyzed but was not too worried about it. |
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On 2/2/2014 7:17 AM, Daring Dufas: Hypocrite Sock Of Killer Loon wrote:
Perfect health. Except for his/her/its mental health. Poor killer Loon. ^_^ TDD |
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You still collecting welfare hypocrite? We aready know you bailed out of paying hospital bills and hiding from bill collectors ..how can you explain Internet service when you live month to month on welfare?
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On 2/2/2014 6:02 PM, Daring Dufas: Hypocrite Sock of Killer Loon wrote:
You still collecting welfare hypocrite? We aready know you bailed out of paying hospital bills and hiding from bill collectors ..how can you explain Internet service when you live month to month on welfare? Oh Killer Loon, you poor demented thing. You forgot that I've paid into the system longer than you've been alive. Are you Asian now? "We aready know you...." from your post is so funny. Anyway who is "We" and you've never defined this "TeaBillie on welfare" thing you call yourself. I'm sure everyone would like to know about your fabulous job that allows you to live in luxury. I barter for a lot of things, help people out and receive help in return which is something a putrid P.L.L.C.F. like you will never understand. I keep an eye on my roommates home, office, handle a lot of paperwork for him and keep the computers up and in good repair. I get to use the Internet service in return. I don't get paid but I share the bills. I'm no longer able to climb and crawl like I used to but I've a technical skill set which far exceeds any you may have that allows me to do things that don't require a lot of physical activity. I've been disable longer than you've been alive Killer Loon but I kept working and paying into the system until I no longer could. Killer Loon, you're young, in good health and believe you're invincible but you're not. I guessing you're in your early 20's and one day when you grow up, assuming the dope you smoke and the alcohol you drink doesn't kill you, your attitude and political beliefs will change if you're a normal human being. I really wonder if you'll last another 4 or 5 decades. I know it's hard for a human/livestock hybrid such as yourself to grok many concepts but keep trying and you may one day get something better than the minimum wage food service job you now have. ^_^ TDD |
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The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 2/2/2014 6:02 PM, Daring Dufas: Hypocrite Sock of Killer Loon wrote: will never understand. I keep an eye on my roommates home, office, handle a lot of paperwork for him and keep the computers up and in good Hi, Roommates home? Are you resident in an institution? |
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On Sun, 2 Feb 2014 05:17:11 -0800 (PST), "Daring Dufas: Hypocrite
TeaBillie on welfare" wrote: Perfect health. At 12, you should be. |
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On 02 Feb 2014 10:20:45 GMT, Zaky Waky wrote:
Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? Seems not, except for me. I presume you are not taking mental health into consideration ? If you were, you would have to tick yourself off the list. IMHO []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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Shadow wrote in
: On 02 Feb 2014 10:20:45 GMT, Zaky Waky wrote: Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? Seems not, except for me. I presume you are not taking mental health into consideration ? If you were, you would have to tick yourself off the list. IMHO []'s Correct :-) |
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On 2/2/2014 8:50 AM, Shadow wrote:
On 02 Feb 2014 10:20:45 GMT, Zaky Waky wrote: Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? Seems not, except for me. I presume you are not taking mental health into consideration ? If you were, you would have to tick yourself off the list. IMHO []'s Hey pal, you noticed that too eh? ^_^ What's up Shadow? Do you find the whack jobs posting here to be more amusing than those in the other groups I see you in? I even have a fanboy, Killer Loon, who's using part of my nym, sort of a junior Hatter. I do have fun here. ^_^ TDD |
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On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 11:14:46 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote: On 2/2/2014 8:50 AM, Shadow wrote: On 02 Feb 2014 10:20:45 GMT, Zaky Waky wrote: Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? Seems not, except for me. I presume you are not taking mental health into consideration ? If you were, you would have to tick yourself off the list. IMHO []'s Hey pal, you noticed that too eh? ^_^ What's up Shadow? Do you find the whack jobs posting here to be more amusing than those in the other groups I see you in? I even have a fanboy, Killer Loon, who's using part of my nym, sort of a junior Hatter. I do have fun here. ^_^ Yep. The Off Topic here is nice. Has an earthy smell to it. Not metallic as in the NSA_most_watched groups. []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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On 2014-02-02 4:20 AM, Zaky Waky wrote:
Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? Seems not, except for me. I'm not even 30 and I can kick ass. |
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Adam Kubias wrote in
: On 2014-02-02 4:20 AM, Zaky Waky wrote: Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? Seems not, except for me. I'm not even 30 and I can kick ass. Certainly not philo's ass, and he is much older. |
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On 2/2/2014 9:58 AM, Adam Kubias wrote:
On 2014-02-02 4:20 AM, Zaky Waky wrote: Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? Seems not, except for me. I'm not even 30 and I can kick ass. Kid, never pick a fight with an old man, he will kill you. In my case, I would bring my cane up between your legs and kick your face in while you were on the floor groaning in pain. If I was really ****ed off about it, I would gouge out your eyes so you could no longer be a threat but since I'm kind of lazy, I'd probably just put a few rounds in your head from my .380 pistol. ^_^ TDD |
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"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... On 2/2/2014 9:58 AM, Adam Kubias wrote: On 2014-02-02 4:20 AM, Zaky Waky wrote: Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? Seems not, except for me. I'm not even 30 and I can kick ass. Kid, never pick a fight with an old man, he will kill you. In my case, I would bring my cane up between your legs and kick your face in while you were on the floor groaning in pain. If I was really ****ed off about it, I would gouge out your eyes so you could no longer be a threat but since I'm kind of lazy, I'd probably just put a few rounds in your head from my .380 pistol. ^_^ TDD What .380 do you have? WW |
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On 2014-02-02 1:17 PM, WW wrote:
"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... On 2/2/2014 9:58 AM, Adam Kubias wrote: On 2014-02-02 4:20 AM, Zaky Waky wrote: Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? Seems not, except for me. I'm not even 30 and I can kick ass. Kid, never pick a fight with an old man, he will kill you. In my case, I would bring my cane up between your legs and kick your face in while you were on the floor groaning in pain. If I was really ****ed off about it, I would gouge out your eyes so you could no longer be a threat but since I'm kind of lazy, I'd probably just put a few rounds in your head from my .380 pistol. ^_^ TDD What .380 do you have? WW I don't pick fights. Every now and then you need to swing though. |
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On 2/2/2014 3:18 PM, Adam Kubias wrote:
On 2014-02-02 1:17 PM, WW wrote: "The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... On 2/2/2014 9:58 AM, Adam Kubias wrote: On 2014-02-02 4:20 AM, Zaky Waky wrote: Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? Seems not, except for me. I'm not even 30 and I can kick ass. Kid, never pick a fight with an old man, he will kill you. In my case, I would bring my cane up between your legs and kick your face in while you were on the floor groaning in pain. If I was really ****ed off about it, I would gouge out your eyes so you could no longer be a threat but since I'm kind of lazy, I'd probably just put a few rounds in your head from my .380 pistol. ^_^ TDD What .380 do you have? WW I don't pick fights. Every now and then you need to swing though. That's a good policy Adam but a crowbar or tire tool is sometimes called for when an attitude adjustment is necessary. ^_^ TDD |
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On 2/2/2014 1:17 PM, WW wrote:
"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... On 2/2/2014 9:58 AM, Adam Kubias wrote: On 2014-02-02 4:20 AM, Zaky Waky wrote: Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? mm Seems not, except for me. I'm not even 30 and I can kick ass. Kid, never pick a fight with an old man, he will kill you. In my case, I would bring my cane up between your legs and kick your face in while you were on the floor groaning in pain. If I was really ****ed off about it, I would gouge out your eyes so you could no longer be a threat but since I'm kind of lazy, I'd probably just put a few rounds in your head from my .380 pistol. ^_^ TDD What .380 do you have? WW I bought an inexpensive Hi-Point CF-380 HC which is a lot of gun for the money. It came with an 8 round magazine but I'll have to get the 10 round magazine so it will fit my hand better. The last pistol I owned was a Belgian made NATO issue 9mm Browning Hi-Power. There are a lot of pro/con videos on YouTube about Hi-Point but it's a basic simple firearm with a lifetime warranty. The CF-380 is kind of heavy for its caliber so when you run out of ammo, you can bash in a dobad's head with it. ^_^ http://www.hi-pointfirearms.com/hand...ns_380acp.html TDD |
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On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 22:37:52 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote in I bought an inexpensive Hi-Point CF-380 HC which is a lot of gun for the money. It came with an 8 round magazine but I'll have to get the 10 round magazine so it will fit my hand better. The last pistol I owned was a Belgian made NATO issue 9mm Browning Hi-Power. There are a lot of pro/con videos on YouTube about Hi-Point but it's a basic simple firearm with a lifetime warranty. The CF-380 is kind of heavy for its caliber so when you run out of ammo, you can bash in a dobad's head with it. ^_^ http://www.hi-pointfirearms.com/hand...ns_380acp.html That's a nice piece. -- Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one. Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those newspapers delivered to your door every morning. |
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On 02/02/2014 12:50 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 2/2/2014 9:58 AM, Adam Kubias wrote: On 2014-02-02 4:20 AM, Zaky Waky wrote: Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? Seems not, except for me. I'm not even 30 and I can kick ass. Kid, never pick a fight with an old man, he will kill you. In my case, I would bring my cane up between your legs and kick your face in while you were on the floor groaning in pain. If I was really ****ed off about it, I would gouge out your eyes so you could no longer be a threat but since I'm kind of lazy, I'd probably just put a few rounds in your head from my .380 pistol. ^_^ TDD Hah! You can't even change your own Depends. |
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Adam Kubias wrote:
On 2014-02-02 4:20 AM, Zaky Waky wrote: Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? Seems not, except for me. I'm not even 30 and I can kick ass. Hi, What is your time for 100 yard dash? What? one minute? No? Couldn't finish?, LOL! |
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Zaky Waky wrote:
Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? Seems not, except for me. Hi, How about over 70? Except for me? No known family history? I am talking abbout your gene, how did your dad die? Was he healthy like you? Are you knocking on the wood? |
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On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 09:55:07 -0700, Tony Hwang
wrote: Zaky Waky wrote: Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? Seems not, except for me. Hi, How about over 70? Except for me? No known family history? I am talking abbout your gene, how did your dad die? Was he healthy like you? Are you knocking on the wood? My father drank like a fish. He died really young, at 79. All my other relatives have not yet reached 100, or died trying to get there, except my 2 grandmothers. Is that good ? Hum , probably not. I'm already bored. []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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On 2/3/2014 6:14 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 09:55:07 -0700, Tony Hwang wrote: Zaky Waky wrote: Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? Seems not, except for me. Hi, How about over 70? Except for me? No known family history? I am talking abbout your gene, how did your dad die? Was he healthy like you? Are you knocking on the wood? My father drank like a fish. He died really young, at 79. All my other relatives have not yet reached 100, or died trying to get there, except my 2 grandmothers. Is that good ? Hum , probably not. I'm already bored. []'s Shad, you must find a hobby such as trudging through the rain forest and searching for treasure or unusual new species down there in The Southern Hemisphere. You could go to the beach and watch all the cute topless girls show off their assets. The only problem with going to the beach to girl watch is that some really fat ugly ones walk around half naked too. My Southern Hillbilly grandmother, Granny, lived to be 95 and one can only wonder about the history she witnessed throughout her long life. ^_^ TDD |
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On 2/4/2014 11:14 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
Shad, you must find a hobby such as trudging through the rain forest and searching for treasure or unusual new species down there in The Southern Hemisphere. You could go to the beach and watch all the cute topless girls show off their assets. The only problem with going to the beach to girl watch is that some really fat ugly ones walk around half naked too. My Southern Hillbilly grandmother, Granny, lived to be 95 and one can only wonder about the history she witnessed throughout her long life. ^_^ TDD I have a dream. That one day women will be judged by the content of their character, not the perkiness of their tits. 95 years of history, ought have seen a lot of change. Progress and change aren't always the same. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 10:14:10 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote: Shad, you must find a hobby such as trudging through the rain forest and I disappear for months at a time, to places where the internet does not shine. searching for treasure or unusual new species down there in The Southern Hemisphere. You could go to the beach and watch all the cute topless girls show off their assets. Sounds too much like work to me. The only problem with going to the beach to girl watch is that some really fat ugly ones walk around half naked too. Yep. Confirmed - Work. I'd rather download MP3's or go snorkeling. I'm not very good out of water. 3 spinal fractures, one of which is unstable, and a badly set foot fracture, which is painful if I walk for 30 minutes. My Southern Hillbilly grandmother, Granny, lived to be 95 and one can only wonder about the history she witnessed throughout her long life. ^_^ One of my grandmothers lived alone until she was 96. Great cook, good housekeeper. Then she fell, had neurological complications during the "hip" surgery and only lasted another 7 years ... at first she thought I was her son, but towards the end she convinced herself I was her husband. My +- 95 year old Uncle recently had his colostomy reversed, because he "was tired of changing the bag". He had a malignant tumor removed when he was 90. All relatives mentioned used state medicine, except my father. He would pay private doctors that told him a liter of whiskey a day was not "too much". []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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On 2/2/14 4:20 AM, Zaky Waky wrote:
Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? Seems not, except for me. Slow reflexes? Die young. So says an article in the LA Times. http://tinyurl.com/jwnae37 |
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On 02/02/2014 05:20 AM, Zaky Waky wrote:
Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? Seems not, except for me. 27 percent of 17 to 24-year-olds in the United States are too fat to serve in the military. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/retired-...-fat-to-fight/ |
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On 2/2/2014 4:20 AM, Zaky Waky wrote:
Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? Seems not, except for me. Waky Zaky, the only thing fat about you is your head. How many nyms do you have anyway? ^_^ TDD |
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On 02 Feb 2014 10:20:45 GMT, Zaky Waky wrote:
Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? Seems not, except for me. How about 71 and working out in the gym lifting weights and all other types of workouts. |
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On 2/2/2014 4:00 PM, joevan wrote:
On 02 Feb 2014 10:20:45 GMT, Zaky Waky wrote: Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? Seems not, except for me. How about 71 and working out in the gym lifting weights and all other types of workouts. Joevan, that's fantastic but I can't do that stuff anymore and it's very frustrating because there was time when I could pick up a car engine. I'm actually going to get a cane and take Sandy, my trained attack Rotthuahua, for walks around our big back yard. ^_^ TDD |
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On 2/2/2014 5:20 AM, Zaky Waky wrote:
Is anyone participating in or visiting this group under 60 years old and healthy (not cronicly taking prescripton meds, not "disabled", not cripped, not whining about how much pain they are in, not morbidly obese)? Seems not, except for me. It depends who is defining "healthy". Your definition and the insurance company's definition might vary. And, is someone who is "disabled" or even "crippled" necessarily unhealthy? Speaking as a MD, I believe that if someone is taking prescription medication for a chronic condition, and that condition is being well controlled (no medication side effects and no detectable damage to any organ system from the chronic condition), that person should be considered healthy. (Examples might include well controlled high blood pressure and well controlled high blood cholesterol if they were diagnosed and managed soon after onset - among some other chronic conditions.) I regard those situations as no different than a person who requires prescription corrective lenses to see clearly with no evidence of other ocular abnormality. And, on the other hand, someone may be taking no prescription medications because they have a serious medical problem that just has not become clinically evident (such as early adult onset diabetes or early stage hepatitis C). Also, some people with chronic mental illness either may be undiagnosed (and therefore untreated), or may refuse to take their medications. Those individuals are most certainly not healthy. |
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Anyone under 60 and healthy?
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It depends who is defining "healthy". Your definition and the insurance company's definition might vary. And, is someone who is "disabled" or even "crippled" necessarily unhealthy? Speaking as a MD, I believe that if someone is taking prescription medication for a chronic condition, and that condition is being well controlled (no medication side effects and no detectable damage to any organ system from the chronic condition), that person should be considered healthy. Well, speaking as a layman, I don't think I've ever seen a person taking prescription medication for a chronic condition in which the initial prescribed medication did not have deleterious side effects that required additional meds for those side effects. For example: take this for your blood pressure and if it keeps you from sleeping, then that this, and take that to help you wake up in the morning. Of course I'm not in a position to prove this, but would ask those reading this to draw on their own personal experiences. Frankly, I consider most G.P. MDs pill-pushing quacks; although I don't blame them. I blame the "system" that has most of their later years (10 yrs in practice) education being provided "free" by the pharmaceutical companies. |
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Anyone under 60 and healthy?
On 2/3/2014 2:23 PM, Zaky Waky wrote:
Peter wrote in : It depends who is defining "healthy". Your definition and the insurance company's definition might vary. And, is someone who is "disabled" or even "crippled" necessarily unhealthy? Speaking as a MD, I believe that if someone is taking prescription medication for a chronic condition, and that condition is being well controlled (no medication side effects and no detectable damage to any organ system from the chronic condition), that person should be considered healthy. Well, speaking as a layman, I don't think I've ever seen a person taking prescription medication for a chronic condition in which the initial prescribed medication did not have deleterious side effects that required additional meds for those side effects. For example: take this for your blood pressure and if it keeps you from sleeping, then that this, and take that to help you wake up in the morning. Of course I'm not in a position to prove this, but would ask those reading this to draw on their own personal experiences. Frankly, I consider most G.P. MDs pill-pushing quacks; although I don't blame them. I blame the "system" that has most of their later years (10 yrs in practice) education being provided "free" by the pharmaceutical companies. Unfortunate that everyone you know on chronic meds uses incompetent quack physicians. Speaking as both an individual who takes prescription medication chronically, and someone who has treated many patients who do the same, I can say that my population sample size is likely to be considerably larger than yours and my experience contradicts your observation. With close observation and careful control of dosage, the overwhelming majority of patients who require chronic medication do not sustain complications that require additional meds to treat the complications. That being said, it is a consistent, widely reported observation that the more medications a patient takes, the great the likelihood of undesirable drug-drug interactions. Your generalization about abuse of pharmaceutical company "education" as the prime source of continuing medical education is off the mark. Most states require a certain number of hours/year of continuing medical education for physicians to retain their license. Most states require that the majority of those hours be from AMA PRA category I sources. Pharmaceutical company sponsored activities rarely if ever meet that criterion. Also, in reality, G.P.s are not common any more. Most M.D.s today who treat all or most members of a family for all or most of their medical needs are board certified in family practice or internal medicine. |
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Anyone under 60 and healthy?
On 2/3/2014 1:44 PM, Peter wrote:
On 2/3/2014 2:23 PM, Zaky Waky wrote: Peter wrote in : It depends who is defining "healthy". Your definition and the insurance company's definition might vary. And, is someone who is "disabled" or even "crippled" necessarily unhealthy? Speaking as a MD, I believe that if someone is taking prescription medication for a chronic condition, and that condition is being well controlled (no medication side effects and no detectable damage to any organ system from the chronic condition), that person should be considered healthy. Well, speaking as a layman, I don't think I've ever seen a person taking prescription medication for a chronic condition in which the initial prescribed medication did not have deleterious side effects that required additional meds for those side effects. For example: take this for your blood pressure and if it keeps you from sleeping, then that this, and take that to help you wake up in the morning. Of course I'm not in a position to prove this, but would ask those reading this to draw on their own personal experiences. Frankly, I consider most G.P. MDs pill-pushing quacks; although I don't blame them. I blame the "system" that has most of their later years (10 yrs in practice) education being provided "free" by the pharmaceutical companies. Unfortunate that everyone you know on chronic meds uses incompetent quack physicians. Speaking as both an individual who takes prescription medication chronically, and someone who has treated many patients who do the same, I can say that my population sample size is likely to be considerably larger than yours and my experience contradicts your observation. With close observation and careful control of dosage, the overwhelming majority of patients who require chronic medication do not sustain complications that require additional meds to treat the complications. That being said, it is a consistent, widely reported observation that the more medications a patient takes, the great the likelihood of undesirable drug-drug interactions. Your generalization about abuse of pharmaceutical company "education" as the prime source of continuing medical education is off the mark. Most states require a certain number of hours/year of continuing medical education for physicians to retain their license. Most states require that the majority of those hours be from AMA PRA category I sources. Pharmaceutical company sponsored activities rarely if ever meet that criterion. Also, in reality, G.P.s are not common any more. Most M.D.s today who treat all or most members of a family for all or most of their medical needs are board certified in family practice or internal medicine. Well Dr. Pete, I'm glad to see you posting and sharing your knowledge. I picked up 9 different medications from my pharmacist last Saturday. At the end of May last year, I was sent home to die and had home hospice care and was walking around with a $32,000.00 automatic external defibrillator hanging off my belt. After 6 months, the hospice service determined I wasn't declining and ended the service. I wasn't dying fast enough and the service was worried about fraud that had happened with other hospice service organizations. They came and picked up the bed, the oxygen machine, tanks and all the other stuff. I shipped the $32k Zoll defibrillator back to them. I take a handful of pills at 6:00am and again at 6:00pm and I'm too damn ornery to die. ^_^ TDD |
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