I just found a slight leak in my toilet bowl tank. The crack starts at the
handle and runs down the side of the tank for about 2 or 3 inches.

Is there a sealant that I can use on that crack without emptying and drying
out the tank?

Thanks

Freckles

On 11/9/2013 11:41 PM, Freckles wrote:
I just found a slight leak in my toilet bowl tank. The crack starts at
the handle and runs down the side of the tank for about 2 or 3 inches.

Is there a sealant that I can use on that crack without emptying and
drying out the tank?

Thanks

Freckles

I'd not trust it once cracked. Porcelain is not forgiving and it can
break instantly causing much damage as the water will continue to run
until it is found. It may last 20 years, it may break while you are
sleeping tonight.

When you get a new toilet, get the comfort height.

On 11/09/2013 11:41 PM, Freckles wrote:
I just found a slight leak in my toilet bowl tank. The crack starts at
the handle and runs down the side of the tank for about 2 or 3 inches.

Is there a sealant that I can use on that crack without emptying and
drying out the tank?

Thanks

Freckles

New johns are so cheap that it is not worth fighting with it.

Had an issue at my last house with a toilet that some "contractors"
R&R'd and messed up the pieces between the tank and bowl... rather than
spend hours on the interwebs trying to find those pieces a quick trip to
Lowe's and a couple hours later I had a nicer looking john in its place.

It's really not worth repairing a toilet, sadly, unless the problem is
with the fill valve, flapper, or a gasket, and you know it was installed
right and can take the old parts to the store for samples.

nate

--
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
http://members.cox.net/njnagel

"Freckles" wrote in
:

I just found a slight leak in my toilet bowl tank. The crack starts at
the handle and runs down the side of the tank for about 2 or 3 inches.

Is there a sealant that I can use on that crack without emptying and
drying out the tank?




Immediately wrap a bunch of 2" packing tape around the tank! Especially
over the cracked area. The ceramic will likely eventually fail suddenly and
catastrophically, possibly sending a couple of gallons of water cascading
onto your floor.

Wrapping tape around the tank will prevent the pieces from falling apart,
and should thus somewhat contain the water so you have a chance to soak it
up as it leaks out.

Replace the tank or the toilet ASAP. Like today.

--
Tegger

On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 22:41:46 -0600, "Freckles"
wrote:

I just found a slight leak in my toilet bowl tank. The crack starts at the
handle and runs down the side of the tank for about 2 or 3 inches.


If you like your toilet bowl; you can keep your toilet bowl, period.

Unless you have a unit that is a one piece toilet.

Can't you replace the tank? two piece toilet

Is there a sealant that I can use on that crack without emptying and drying
out the tank?


....don't go there

Freckles:

Maybe akwereyum sealant.

On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 12:18:50 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Freckles:

Maybe akwereyum sealant.

.... if a frog had wings

Oren wrote:
On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 12:18:50 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Freckles:

Maybe akwereyum sealant.
... if a frog had wings

That reminds me of when my dad's 40 gallon aquarium, which was on the
2nd floor, sprung a leak while he was on vacation for a week. Replacing
the kitchen ceilings cost quite a bit! But how about the poor fish? Can
you imagine them eye-balling the water level? No survivors..lol.

On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 15:50:23 -0500, Bill
wrote:

Oren wrote:
On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 12:18:50 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Freckles:

Maybe akwereyum sealant.
... if a frog had wings

That reminds me of when my dad's 40 gallon aquarium, which was on the
2nd floor, sprung a leak while he was on vacation for a week. Replacing
the kitchen ceilings cost quite a bit! But how about the poor fish? Can
you imagine them eye-balling the water level? No survivors..lol.

Was this salt water? What about the shrimp

I wouldn't trust the tank now either, and as was suggested, I'd wrap it with duct tape just to hold things together until you replace the tank, or the whole toilet.

Every time the tank fills with cold water, you're going to get thermal stresses in the porcelain, and now that the tank is already cracked, that crack is only gonna get worse.

If you just want to stop the leak temporarily, my understanding is that marine epoxy can be applied under water. You should be able to buy marine epoxy in any hardware store or home center. It should be where all the other adhesives are sold.

off topic:
In most cases, akwereyum sealant is simply silicone caulk without any mildewcide in it. The silicone caulks typically sold for caulking around bathtubs will have mildewcide added to them to keep the caulk mildew free as long as possible. That mildewcide is soluble in water. If you use standard silicone caulk in an aquarium, the mildewcide will leach out of the caulk and kill your fish.

On 11/10/2013 2:43 PM, Oren wrote:

If you like your toilet bowl; you can keep your toilet bowl, period.

Unless you have a unit that is a one piece toilet.

Can't you replace the tank? two piece toilet

That would be cheaper if it is relatively new. If older, you probably
won't find a tank to handle the water requirements.

In the past few years there have been some good advancements in
technology. The 1.6 gallon flushes work very well and clear the bowl
quickly. The comfort height and elongated bowls are more comfortable
than most older toilets too, especially as your knees get older.

On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 22:41:46 -0600, "Freckles"
wrote:

I just found a slight leak in my toilet bowl tank. The crack starts at the
handle and runs down the side of the tank for about 2 or 3 inches.

Is there a sealant that I can use on that crack without emptying and drying
out the tank?

Yes, but I'm not going to tell you what it is You should replace the
toilet, or maybe just the tank if that is possible. Probably not, in
that parts cost so much more than whole items.

Also tegger's suggestion about taping it right away, and replacing it
right away after that, sounds good. It won't just be the water in the
tank that spills out but the tank will try to fill continuously. If
you're away at work or out of town for 9 days, imagine what kind of
flood there would be.

Thanks

Freckles

On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 15:50:23 -0500, Bill
wrote:


That reminds me of when my dad's 40 gallon aquarium, which was on the
2nd floor, sprung a leak while he was on vacation for a week. Replacing
the kitchen ceilings cost quite a bit! But how about the poor fish? Can
you imagine them eye-balling the water level?

I keep fish in my toilet tank. I've taught them to avoid the big
drain when I flush. It's a shame that neither I nor visitors can
see them.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 11/10/2013 2:43 PM, Oren wrote:

If you like your toilet bowl; you can keep your toilet bowl, period.

Unless you have a unit that is a one piece toilet.

Can't you replace the tank? two piece toilet

That would be cheaper if it is relatively new. If older, you probably
won't find a tank to handle the water requirements.

In the past few years there have been some good advancements in
technology. The 1.6 gallon flushes work very well and clear the bowl
quickly. The comfort height and elongated bowls are more comfortable
than most older toilets too, especially as your knees get older.

A few people have recommended comfort height toilets in this thread without
mentioning a very important caveat:

Some of us are too short to get any comfort from a comfort height toilet.

On 11/10/2013 10:49 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:

A few people have recommended comfort height toilets in this thread without
mentioning a very important caveat:

Some of us are too short to get any comfort from a comfort height toilet.


I guess it can be that way, but my 5'2" wife likes it.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 11/9/2013 11:41 PM, Freckles wrote:
I just found a slight leak in my toilet bowl tank. The crack starts at
the handle and runs down the side of the tank for about 2 or 3 inches.

Is there a sealant that I can use on that crack without emptying and
drying out the tank?

Thanks

Freckles

I'd not trust it once cracked. Porcelain is not forgiving and it can
break instantly causing much damage as the water will continue to run until it is found.

A young couple bought the house across the street from me. They remained in
their apartment while they spent evenings and weekends fixing up their new
old house. They weren't much into plumbing, so they hired a plumber to
replace the fixtures in the 2nd floor bathroom.

The plumber replaced the toilet on Monday. The couple didn't come back to
the house until Wednesday. By then the water was running out the back door.
They weren't planning on replacing the kitchen cabinets, the ceilings or
the hardwood floors on the entire first floor, but that's what they did.

The insurance company determined that the plumber had not tightened the
toilet's supply hose properly and it let go sometime after he left. What a
mess that was.

On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 22:05:04 -0500, micky
wrote:

suggestion about taping it right away, and replacing it
right away after that, sounds good. It won't just be the water in the
tank that spills out but the tank will try to fill continuously. If
you're away at work or out of town for 9 days, imagine what kind of
flood there would be.

If I was leaving town for 9 days; I'd turn off the water supply for
the cracked toilet tank or go to the local store for a new toilet...

( ... the OP has left the building)

On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 22:55:46 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 11/10/2013 10:49 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:

A few people have recommended comfort height toilets in this thread without
mentioning a very important caveat:

Some of us are too short to get any comfort from a comfort height toilet.


I guess it can be that way, but my 5'2" wife likes it.

....two year old toddlers

Some homes may need one shorter height toilet g

Oren wrote in news:rtc2895skhl369n3l3ub46v6kiovk0m7be@
4ax.com:

...

( ... the OP has left the building)




Wha... hey, you're right. And on his way out he stole the coat-check
receipts. Stop thief! Officer, follow that car!



--
Tegger

On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 22:41:46 -0600, "Freckles"
wrote:

I just found a slight leak in my toilet bowl tank. The crack starts at the
handle and runs down the side of the tank for about 2 or 3 inches.

Is there a sealant that I can use on that crack without emptying and drying
out the tank?

Thanks

Freckles

NO

Empty and dry it and Clean it well first! Then apply JB Weld on the
inside.

wrote:
On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 22:41:46 -0600, "Freckles"
wrote:

I just found a slight leak in my toilet bowl tank. The crack starts at the
handle and runs down the side of the tank for about 2 or 3 inches.

Is there a sealant that I can use on that crack without emptying and drying
out the tank?

Thanks

Freckles

NO

Empty and dry it and Clean it well first! Then apply JB Weld on the
inside.

And then wait for the crack to extend farther down the tank.

On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 00:13:33 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

Empty and dry it and Clean it well first! Then apply JB Weld on the
inside.

And then wait for the crack to extend farther down the tank.

Home Guy has plenty of JB Weld to apply... cracks get longer, add
more.

On 11/9/2013 11:41 PM, Freckles wrote:
I just found a slight leak in my toilet bowl tank. The crack starts at
the handle and runs down the side of the tank for about 2 or 3 inches.

Is there a sealant that I can use on that crack without emptying and
drying out the tank?

Thanks

Freckles
My recommendation is to take the tank off, chip out a slight v, fill it
with epoxy, make sure you heat the v with a hot air gun or hair dryer.
Then put the epoxy in, and let the gun run over the epoxy a little to
make it runny.
let it cure..
It should be good. A slow epoxy 30 minute would be better than a 5
minute epoxy, more strength, and just better in general.



--
Jeff

DerbyDad03 wrote "- show quoted text -
A few people have recommended comfort height toilets in this thread without
mentioning a very important caveat:

Some of us are too short to get any comfort from a comfort height toilet. "

Did any of you read my link about proper toilet posture?? Most modern "comfort height" toilets do not allow us to squat during number-2 the way we are designed to.

http://wellnessmama.com/7013/a-prope...-potty-review/

On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 18:58:28 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Most modern "comfort height" toilets do not allow us to squat during number-2 the way we are designed to.

Real Americans can just sit on a tree log to take care of business.

Squatting is not as important as a good comfort height.

--
never **** in your mess kit

On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 21:57:54 -0500, woodchucker
wrote:

My recommendation is to take the tank off, chip out a slight v, fill it
with epoxy, make sure you heat the v with a hot air gun or hair dryer.
Then put the epoxy in, and let the gun run over the epoxy a little to
make it runny.
let it cure..
It should be good. A slow epoxy 30 minute would be better than a 5
minute epoxy, more strength, and just better in general.

My recommendation is to not have the toilet collapse in a disaster.

All this talk about a fixing a crack is plain silly and is dangerous.
You can hurt yourself...

On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 20:28:37 -0800, Oren wrote:

On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 21:57:54 -0500, woodchucker
wrote:

My recommendation is to take the tank off, chip out a slight v, fill it
with epoxy, make sure you heat the v with a hot air gun or hair dryer.
Then put the epoxy in, and let the gun run over the epoxy a little to
make it runny.
let it cure..
It should be good. A slow epoxy 30 minute would be better than a 5
minute epoxy, more strength, and just better in general.

My recommendation is to not have the toilet collapse in a disaster.

All this talk about a fixing a crack is plain silly and is dangerous.
You can hurt yourself...

Absolutely. The fix may last 20 years, but it can also fail and cause
$20,000 in damage while you are out at the grocery store.

I notice we've not heard back from the OP with a decision of his plan
of action.

On 11/9/2013 11:41 PM, Freckles wrote:
I just found a slight leak in my toilet bowl tank. The crack starts at
the handle and runs down the side of the tank for about 2 or 3 inches.

Is there a sealant that I can use on that crack without emptying and
drying out the tank?

Thanks

Freckles

The potential for disaster is extreme, and it would be false economy to
even THINK about repairing a cracked tank. I know of two instances of
broken toilets that let go when homeowner was away....one cost an entire
home remodel in a not-very-old house. Once cracked, glass and ceramic
tend to extend, whether you repair or not; a little change in
temperature is all it needs.

Consider what will happen to your house if the water supply runs for a
day or a weekend....

Oren wrote "Real Americans can just sit on a tree log to take care of business. "

Open your mind and learn something for once! Americans hate learning. It's a wonder we ever landed on the moon or developed the shuttle. smh!

"Norminn" wrote in message
m...
On 11/9/2013 11:41 PM, Freckles wrote:
I just found a slight leak in my toilet bowl tank. The crack starts at
the handle and runs down the side of the tank for about 2 or 3 inches.

Is there a sealant that I can use on that crack without emptying and
drying out the tank?

Thanks

Freckles

The potential for disaster is extreme, and it would be false economy to
even THINK about repairing a cracked tank. I know of two instances of
broken toilets that let go when homeowner was away....one cost an entire
home remodel in a not-very-old house. Once cracked, glass and ceramic
tend to extend, whether you repair or not; a little change in temperature
is all it needs.

Consider what will happen to your house if the water supply runs for a day
or a weekend....

I can tell you-----was away for a few days. The toilet had a small leak
through the flapper valve which slowly emptied the tank triggering a refill
cycle. The problem was that on one of the cycles the water never shut off in
the toilet due to a stuck float in the tank. The tank filled with most of
the water running out via the overflow tube-no harm, no foul----what didn't
go down the overflow tube ran out through the toilet handle. End result,
two bathrooms (up and down) wiped out--cost $25,000. Thankfully insurance
covered it all but deductable
MLD

On 11/14/2013 7:37 PM, MLD wrote:

"Norminn" wrote in message
m...
On 11/9/2013 11:41 PM, Freckles wrote:
I just found a slight leak in my toilet bowl tank. The crack starts at
the handle and runs down the side of the tank for about 2 or 3 inches.

Is there a sealant that I can use on that crack without emptying and
drying out the tank?

Thanks

Freckles

The potential for disaster is extreme, and it would be false economy
to even THINK about repairing a cracked tank. I know of two instances
of broken toilets that let go when homeowner was away....one cost an
entire home remodel in a not-very-old house. Once cracked, glass and
ceramic tend to extend, whether you repair or not; a little change in
temperature is all it needs.

Consider what will happen to your house if the water supply runs for a
day or a weekend....

I can tell you-----was away for a few days. The toilet had a small leak
through the flapper valve which slowly emptied the tank triggering a
refill cycle. The problem was that on one of the cycles the water never
shut off in the toilet due to a stuck float in the tank. The tank
filled with most of the water running out via the overflow tube-no harm,
no foul----what didn't go down the overflow tube ran out through the
toilet handle. End result, two bathrooms (up and down) wiped out--cost
$25,000. Thankfully insurance covered it all but deductable
MLD
See... it all worked out for the better. ;-)

--
Jeff

On 11/13/2013 9:58 PM, wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote "- show quoted text -
A few people have recommended comfort height toilets in this thread without
mentioning a very important caveat:

Some of us are too short to get any comfort from a comfort height toilet. "

Did any of you read my link about proper toilet posture?? Most modern "comfort height" toilets do not allow us to squat during number-2 the way we are designed to.


At work we had some oriental folks that would stand on the seat and squat.

Your link was interesting. You can be 90% correct posture merely leaning
forward. Sitting a couple of inches higher becomes important when you
have bad knees, bad back, arthritis and other ailments you find at 60+

"woodchucker" wrote in message
...
On 11/14/2013 7:37 PM, MLD wrote:

"Norminn" wrote in message
m...
On 11/9/2013 11:41 PM, Freckles wrote:
I just found a slight leak in my toilet bowl tank. The crack starts at
the handle and runs down the side of the tank for about 2 or 3 inches.

Is there a sealant that I can use on that crack without emptying and
drying out the tank?

Thanks

Freckles

The potential for disaster is extreme, and it would be false economy
to even THINK about repairing a cracked tank. I know of two instances
of broken toilets that let go when homeowner was away....one cost an
entire home remodel in a not-very-old house. Once cracked, glass and
ceramic tend to extend, whether you repair or not; a little change in
temperature is all it needs.

Consider what will happen to your house if the water supply runs for a
day or a weekend....

I can tell you-----was away for a few days. The toilet had a small leak
through the flapper valve which slowly emptied the tank triggering a
refill cycle. The problem was that on one of the cycles the water never
shut off in the toilet due to a stuck float in the tank. The tank
filled with most of the water running out via the overflow tube-no harm,
no foul----what didn't go down the overflow tube ran out through the
toilet handle. End result, two bathrooms (up and down) wiped out--cost
$25,000. Thankfully insurance covered it all but deductable
MLD
See... it all worked out for the better. ;-)

--
Jeff

g What I didn't say was that from July to Nov we had to put up with the
following-----
Shower in the Up bath tub--just a sub floor there
Wash and shave in the kitchen sink
Use toilet in down bath--all open, just studs-bathroom was completely gutted
due to the water running down from above.
Fun was had by all--Not to mention dealing with all the trades--plumber,
electrician, carpenter, tile man, painter, city inspections, required
upgrades to meet code and who remembers what else--oh yes, insurance company
was an constant battle.
MLD

On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 20:16:12 -0500, woodchucker
wrote:

On 11/14/2013 7:37 PM, MLD wrote:

"Norminn" wrote in message
m...
On 11/9/2013 11:41 PM, Freckles wrote:
I just found a slight leak in my toilet bowl tank. The crack starts at
the handle and runs down the side of the tank for about 2 or 3 inches.

Is there a sealant that I can use on that crack without emptying and
drying out the tank?

Thanks

Freckles

The potential for disaster is extreme, and it would be false economy
to even THINK about repairing a cracked tank. I know of two instances
of broken toilets that let go when homeowner was away....one cost an
entire home remodel in a not-very-old house. Once cracked, glass and
ceramic tend to extend, whether you repair or not; a little change in
temperature is all it needs.

Consider what will happen to your house if the water supply runs for a
day or a weekend....

I can tell you-----was away for a few days. The toilet had a small leak
through the flapper valve which slowly emptied the tank triggering a
refill cycle. The problem was that on one of the cycles the water never
shut off in the toilet due to a stuck float in the tank. The tank
filled with most of the water running out via the overflow tube-no harm,
no foul----what didn't go down the overflow tube ran out through the
toilet handle. End result, two bathrooms (up and down) wiped out--cost
$25,000. Thankfully insurance covered it all but deductable
MLD
See... it all worked out for the better. ;-)

The problem is that these sorts of claims make insurance companies
really cranky.

On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 04:10:30 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 11/9/2013 11:41 PM, Freckles wrote:
I just found a slight leak in my toilet bowl tank. The crack starts at
the handle and runs down the side of the tank for about 2 or 3 inches.

Is there a sealant that I can use on that crack without emptying and
drying out the tank?

Thanks

Freckles

I'd not trust it once cracked. Porcelain is not forgiving and it can
break instantly causing much damage as the water will continue to run until it is found.

A young couple bought the house across the street from me. They remained in
their apartment while they spent evenings and weekends fixing up their new
old house. They weren't much into plumbing, so they hired a plumber to
replace the fixtures in the 2nd floor bathroom.

The plumber replaced the toilet on Monday. The couple didn't come back to
the house until Wednesday. By then the water was running out the back door.
They weren't planning on replacing the kitchen cabinets, the ceilings or
the hardwood floors on the entire first floor, but that's what they did.

The insurance company determined that the plumber had not tightened the
toilet's supply hose properly and it let go sometime after he left. What a
mess that was.

Similar happened to a couple who bought a house across from us, though
I don't think work was being done. I noticed water coming out of the
siding, both front and back, while walking our friends' dogs. The
house was still vacant, so I shut off the water (California, with the
water supply and shutoff above ground. Can't do that in the
Northeast!) and called the number on the real estate sign.

Turned out to be the toilet supply hose on the third floor; huge mess
and resulted in quite a bit of remodeling over the next few months
(much paid by insurance, I assume). I immediately checked ours and
replaced them -- the originals had a white plastic nut with a fused
seam; I could see how overtightening could put pressure on that seam
until it breaks eventually. The new ones I got have a gray nut, also
plastic but appears to be one single molded piece and thicker. Both
styles were at HD under the same SKU.

Josh

On 11/15/2013 9:57 PM, Josh wrote:

Similar happened to a couple who bought a house across from us, though
I don't think work was being done. I noticed water coming out of the
siding, both front and back, while walking our friends' dogs. The
house was still vacant, so I shut off the water (California, with the
water supply and shutoff above ground. Can't do that in the
Northeast!) and called the number on the real estate sign.

Turned out to be the toilet supply hose on the third floor; huge mess
and resulted in quite a bit of remodeling over the next few months
(much paid by insurance, I assume). I immediately checked ours and
replaced them -- the originals had a white plastic nut with a fused
seam; I could see how overtightening could put pressure on that seam
until it breaks eventually. The new ones I got have a gray nut, also
plastic but appears to be one single molded piece and thicker. Both
styles were at HD under the same SKU.

Josh


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