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I'm preparing to paint a room and was removing the switch/receptacle
covers. One of the boxes has a Lutron Glyder dimmer switch. That switch has a cross piece...push on/off, slide to dim or brighten. Here's a photo: http://www.lutron.com/en-US/Products.../Overview.aspx The cross piece keeps the cover from being removed. The obvious solution is "remove the cross piece". My question is, "How?" I've tried pulling, twisting and prying, doesn't budge. I KNOW it comes off, has to, I put in the switch in the first place. Anybody know? -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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On 11/03/2013 07:26 AM, dadiOH wrote:
I'm preparing to paint a room and was removing the switch/receptacle covers. One of the boxes has a Lutron Glyder dimmer switch. That switch has a cross piece...push on/off, slide to dim or brighten. Here's a photo: http://www.lutron.com/en-US/Products.../Overview.aspx The cross piece keeps the cover from being removed. The obvious solution is "remove the cross piece". My question is, "How?" I've tried pulling, twisting and prying, doesn't budge. I KNOW it comes off, has to, I put in the switch in the first place. Anybody know? My guess would be to pull harder, possibly using a piece of wood behind the cross piece to use as a lever. Jon |
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Jon Danniken wrote:
On 11/03/2013 07:26 AM, dadiOH wrote: I'm preparing to paint a room and was removing the switch/receptacle covers. One of the boxes has a Lutron Glyder dimmer switch. That switch has a cross piece...push on/off, slide to dim or brighten. Here's a photo: http://www.lutron.com/en-US/Products.../Overview.aspx The cross piece keeps the cover from being removed. The obvious solution is "remove the cross piece". My question is, "How?" I've tried pulling, twisting and prying, doesn't budge. I KNOW it comes off, has to, I put in the switch in the first place. Anybody know? My guess would be to pull harder, possibly using a piece of wood behind the cross piece to use as a lever. Jon Hmm, Yes but I know one thing if you remove it a few times it gets loose. I'd just cover it with masking tape and start painting instread losing time on it. |
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On 11/03/2013 10:26 AM, dadiOH wrote:
I'm preparing to paint a room and was removing the switch/receptacle covers. One of the boxes has a Lutron Glyder dimmer switch. That switch has a cross piece...push on/off, slide to dim or brighten. Here's a photo: http://www.lutron.com/en-US/Products.../Overview.aspx The cross piece keeps the cover from being removed. The obvious solution is "remove the cross piece". My question is, "How?" I've tried pulling, twisting and prying, doesn't budge. I KNOW it comes off, has to, I put in the switch in the first place. Anybody know? I don't know the answer to your question, but apparently the entire rest of the universe paints right over the covers and switches (except for Yours Truly, who is very annoyed by that practice.) nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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Dadi,
Tight "push-ons" can often be levered off using a couple of soup spoons as levers. Dave M. |
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On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 10:26:48 -0500, "dadiOH"
wrote: I'm preparing to paint a room and was removing the switch/receptacle covers. One of the boxes has a Lutron Glyder dimmer switch. That switch has a cross piece...push on/off, slide to dim or brighten. Here's a photo: http://www.lutron.com/en-US/Products.../Overview.aspx The cross piece keeps the cover from being removed. The obvious solution is "remove the cross piece". My question is, "How?" I've tried pulling, twisting and prying, doesn't budge. I KNOW it comes off, has to, I put in the switch in the first place. Anybody know? Instructions say to "firmly" pull the knob off. Is there a tab visible, you can depress and pull it off? |
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On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 10:26:48 -0500, "dadiOH" wrote: I'm preparing to paint a room and was removing the switch/receptacle covers. One of the boxes has a Lutron Glyder dimmer switch. That switch has a cross piece...push on/off, slide to dim or brighten. Here's a photo: http://www.lutron.com/en-US/Products.../Overview.aspx The cross piece keeps the cover from being removed. The obvious solution is "remove the cross piece". My question is, "How?" I've tried pulling, twisting and prying, doesn't budge. I KNOW it comes off, has to, I put in the switch in the first place. Anybody know? Instructions say to "firmly" pull the knob off. Is there a tab visible, you can depress and pull it off? No tab that I see. Where did you find instructions? -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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On 11/3/13, 11:50 AM, dadiOH wrote:
"Oren" wrote in message On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 10:26:48 -0500, "dadiOH" wrote: I'm preparing to paint a room and was removing the switch/receptacle covers. One of the boxes has a Lutron Glyder dimmer switch. That switch has a cross piece...push on/off, slide to dim or brighten. Here's a photo: http://www.lutron.com/en-US/Products.../Overview.aspx The cross piece keeps the cover from being removed. The obvious solution is "remove the cross piece". My question is, "How?" I've tried pulling, twisting and prying, doesn't budge. I KNOW it comes off, has to, I put in the switch in the first place. Anybody know? Instructions say to "firmly" pull the knob off. Is there a tab visible, you can depress and pull it off? No tab that I see. Where did you find instructions? http://www.lutron.com/TechnicalDocum...ry/030477J.pdf lower right hand corner of first page |
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On 11/3/2013 10:26 AM, dadiOH wrote:
I'm preparing to paint a room and was removing the switch/receptacle covers. One of the boxes has a Lutron Glyder dimmer switch. That switch has a cross piece...push on/off, slide to dim or brighten. Here's a photo: http://www.lutron.com/en-US/Products.../Overview.aspx The cross piece keeps the cover from being removed. The obvious solution is "remove the cross piece". My question is, "How?" I've tried pulling, twisting and prying, doesn't budge. I KNOW it comes off, has to, I put in the switch in the first place. Anybody know? Can't you pry the cover at the ends then twist it around and fit it through the slot? -- Jeff |
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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:03:15 -0500, Nate Nagel
wrote: On 11/03/2013 10:26 AM, dadiOH wrote: I'm preparing to paint a room and was removing the switch/receptacle covers. One of the boxes has a Lutron Glyder dimmer switch. That switch has a cross piece...push on/off, slide to dim or brighten. Here's a photo: http://www.lutron.com/en-US/Products.../Overview.aspx The cross piece keeps the cover from being removed. The obvious solution is "remove the cross piece". My question is, "How?" I've tried pulling, twisting and prying, doesn't budge. I KNOW it comes off, has to, I put in the switch in the first place. Anybody know? I don't know the answer to your question, but apparently the entire rest of the universe paints right over the covers and switches (except for Yours Truly, who is very annoyed by that practice.) You aren't the only exception. I had my other house professionally painted. They painted around them but it still ****ed me off. It was obvious that they didn't remove them. |
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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 08:53:23 -0700, Tony Hwang
wrote: Yes but I know one thing if you remove it a few times it gets loose. ....use a wedge of duct tape to fix it |
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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:03:15 -0500, Nate Nagel
wrote: I don't know the answer to your question, but apparently the entire rest of the universe paints right over the covers and switches (except for Yours Truly, who is very annoyed by that practice.) nate I'm not in that universe. I remove the cover plates, wash, clean and put them back on. Looks better and no cost for tape ... yada yada . I did paint one switch gold because I could not find a color I demanded at the time It matched the cover plate... |
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On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 11:56:26 -0500, "David L. Martel"
wrote: Dadi, http://www.lutron.com/TechnicalDocum...ry/030477J.pdf Dave M. .... yup, bottom right corner That is what I looked at and mentioned above. |
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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 12:14:04 -0500, woodchucker
wrote: has a cross piece...push on/off, slide to dim or brighten. Here's a photo: http://www.lutron.com/en-US/Products.../Overview.aspx The cross piece keeps the cover from being removed. The obvious solution is "remove the cross piece". My question is, "How?" I've tried pulling, twisting and prying, doesn't budge. I KNOW it comes off, has to, I put in the switch in the first place. Anybody know? Can't you pry the cover at the ends then twist it around and fit it through the slot? Worth a try |
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"David L. Martel" wrote in message
Dadi, http://www.lutron.com/TechnicalDocum...ry/030477J.pdf Dave M. Thanks. I'll pull harder -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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"woodchucker" wrote in message
On 11/3/2013 10:26 AM, dadiOH wrote: I'm preparing to paint a room and was removing the switch/receptacle covers. One of the boxes has a Lutron Glyder dimmer switch. That switch has a cross piece...push on/off, slide to dim or brighten. Here's a photo: http://www.lutron.com/en-US/Products.../Overview.aspx The cross piece keeps the cover from being removed. The obvious solution is "remove the cross piece". My question is, "How?" I've tried pulling, twisting and prying, doesn't budge. I KNOW it comes off, has to, I put in the switch in the first place. Anybody know? Can't you pry the cover at the ends then twist it around and fit it through the slot? Nope. -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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On 11/03/2013 12:35 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:03:15 -0500, Nate Nagel wrote: I don't know the answer to your question, but apparently the entire rest of the universe paints right over the covers and switches (except for Yours Truly, who is very annoyed by that practice.) nate I'm not in that universe. I remove the cover plates, wash, clean and put them back on. Looks better and no cost for tape ... yada yada . I did paint one switch gold because I could not find a color I demanded at the time It matched the cover plate... Indeed. The typical ivory heavy plastic plates look much better after a wash! I have however bought lots of the old pressed brass plates off a certain auction site for much less than buying new reproduction ones (.030" or ..040" solid brass, with nice crisp bevels, not the brass tone plated steel ones that you buy at the Big Box) due to them having coats of paint over them... I just soak them in hot water to float the paint off and if they have a nice even patina I leave them alone, otherwise polish them up as best I can. A nice vintage look for not a lot of dough. I just dragged all my leftovers out because a friend just bought an old house and expressed an interest in them. nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 09:27:46 -0800, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 08:53:23 -0700, Tony Hwang wrote: Yes but I know one thing if you remove it a few times it gets loose. ...use a wedge of duct tape to fix it Glue it back on with Ambroid Cement. Sticks to almost anything, dries quickly, strong, but not so strong you can't break it when you need to. Never grows old if you keep the cap on the tube. I had a tube that I used on occasion and it was as good 20 years later as it was when I bought it. IIRC I remove excess either with a knife or by rubbing it a lot with my fingers. I'm not sure if the solvent in the cement will damage the wall plate or not. Probably not, since it's used to assemble plastic modesl, but test on the back of the plate. Only available in hobby and model stores, model airplanes, etc. |
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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 09:35:25 -0800, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:03:15 -0500, Nate Nagel wrote: I don't know the answer to your question, but apparently the entire rest of the universe paints right over the covers and switches (except for Yours Truly, who is very annoyed by that practice.) Not my mother or me. My mother once hired a blind man to paint the interior, and she saved money by removing and later replacing all the wall plates herself. He couldn't see well enough to do that part, but he did a nice job on the paint. I was at school during the day so I don't know how blind he was, but that's what she said. nate I'm not in that universe. I remove the cover plates, wash, clean and put them back on. Looks better and no cost for tape ... yada yada . I did paint one switch gold because I could not find a color I demanded at the time It matched the cover plate... |
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On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 10:26:48 -0500, "dadiOH"
wrote: I'm preparing to paint a room and was removing the switch/receptacle covers. One of the boxes has a Lutron Glyder dimmer switch. That switch has a cross piece...push on/off, slide to dim or brighten. Here's a photo: http://www.lutron.com/en-US/Products.../Overview.aspx The cross piece keeps the cover from being removed. The obvious solution is "remove the cross piece". My question is, "How?" I've tried pulling, twisting and prying, doesn't budge. I KNOW it comes off, has to, I put in the switch in the first place. Anybody know? Easy. Just remove about one square foot of the wall and take it to an electrician or electrical supply house. They'll show you how. |
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I never took one apart by the look at picture you prime up edges twisted at
90 degree and it should come off. "dadiOH" wrote in message ... I'm preparing to paint a room and was removing the switch/receptacle covers. One of the boxes has a Lutron Glyder dimmer switch. That switch has a cross piece...push on/off, slide to dim or brighten. Here's a photo: http://www.lutron.com/en-US/Products.../Overview.aspx The cross piece keeps the cover from being removed. The obvious solution is "remove the cross piece". My question is, "How?" I've tried pulling, twisting and prying, doesn't budge. I KNOW it comes off, has to, I put in the switch in the first place. Anybody know? -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 13:10:47 -0800, "Tony944" wrote:
I never took one apart by the look at picture you prime up edges twisted at 90 degree and it should come off. Huh?! Can you repeat that? P.S. Your answer does not apply in this circumstance. |
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I would put the slide in the middle position so that you can move the wall plate away from the wall as far as possible, wrap a piece of masking tape around it's perimeter and sneak a brush over the area of the wall covered and bordered by the wall plate.
I agree with Tony on this one. It's not worth spending a lot of time finding out how to properly remove that knob when you can work with the situation you have reasonably well. |
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On Sunday, November 3, 2013 10:26:48 AM UTC-5, dadiOH wrote:
I'm preparing to paint a room and was removing the switch/receptacle covers. One of the boxes has a Lutron Glyder dimmer switch. That switch has a cross piece...push on/off, slide to dim or brighten. Here's a photo: http://www.lutron.com/en-US/Products.../Overview.aspx The cross piece keeps the cover from being removed. The obvious solution is "remove the cross piece". My question is, "How?" I've tried pulling, twisting and prying, doesn't budge. I KNOW it comes off, has to, I put in the switch in the first place. Anybody know? -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net Does the cross piece rotate? From the picture, it looks like the cover would slip over the cross piece if it were rotated 90 degrees. Or maybe you could rotate the cover. Paul |
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On 11/3/2013 11:03 AM, Nate Nagel wrote:
I don't know the answer to your question, but apparently the entire rest of the universe paints right over the covers and switches (except for Yours Truly, who is very annoyed by that practice.) nate I saw a metal sink painted over, in a cheap apartment, one time. Yikk. Disgusting. Also painted over switches, sockets, and probably cockroaches. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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On 11/3/2013 12:27 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 08:53:23 -0700, Tony Hwang wrote: Yes but I know one thing if you remove it a few times it gets loose. ...use a wedge of duct tape to fix it Good man's answer, duct tape and wedgies. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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On 11/3/2013 9:26 AM, dadiOH wrote:
I'm preparing to paint a room and was removing the switch/receptacle covers. One of the boxes has a Lutron Glyder dimmer switch. That switch has a cross piece...push on/off, slide to dim or brighten. Here's a photo: http://www.lutron.com/en-US/Products.../Overview.aspx The cross piece keeps the cover from being removed. The obvious solution is "remove the cross piece". My question is, "How?" I've tried pulling, twisting and prying, doesn't budge. I KNOW it comes off, has to, I put in the switch in the first place. Anybody know? I've used small needle nose pliers like a pickle fork ball joint removal too to remove stuck knobs. The trick is to have something to cover your fulcrum point on the cover to prevent damage. If you have a popsicle stick and a fork you don't care too much about, with the power off, of course, slide the fork under the flat knob and use the wooden stick under the fork to protect the plastic cover and pry against the popsicle stick to pop the knob off. It should work without scarring op the plastic. ^_^ TDD |
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On 11/3/2013 12:27 PM, Oren wrote: On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 08:53:23 -0700, Tony Hwang wrote: Yes but I know one thing if you remove it a few times it gets loose. ...use a wedge of duct tape to fix it Good man's answer, duct tape and wedgies. Don't forget the WD-40. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeros after @ |
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On 11/3/2013 11:03 AM, Nate Nagel wrote: I don't know the answer to your question, but apparently the entire rest of the universe paints right over the covers and switches (except for Yours Truly, who is very annoyed by that practice.) nate I saw a metal sink painted over, in a cheap apartment, one time. Yikk. Disgusting. Also painted over switches, sockets, and probably cockroaches. Sounds like a USN installation -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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I'm preparing to paint a room and was removing the switch/receptacle covers. One of the boxes has a Lutron Glyder dimmer switch. That switch has a cross piece...push on/off, slide to dim or brighten. Here's a photo: http://www.lutron.com/en-US/Products.../Overview.aspx The cross piece keeps the cover from being removed. The obvious solution is "remove the cross piece". My question is, "How?" I've tried pulling, twisting and prying, doesn't budge. I KNOW it comes off, has to, I put in the switch in the first place. Anybody know? OK, it's done. I used a couple of spoons - thanks to whoever suggested them - to pry with. They worked well because they were thin enough to get under the lip at top and bottom, rounded to provide a fulcrum; two because one can either pry with even or differential pressure at two points. -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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On 11/4/2013 10:45 AM, dadiOH wrote:
OK, it's done. I used a couple of spoons - thanks to whoever suggested them - to pry with. They worked well because they were thin enough to get under the lip at top and bottom, rounded to provide a fulcrum; two because one can either pry with even or differential pressure at two points. Thank you for sharing what worked. Very kind of you. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 10:45:59 -0500, "dadiOH"
wrote: OK, it's done. I used a couple of spoons - thanks to whoever suggested them - to pry with. They worked well because they were thin enough to get under the lip at top and bottom, rounded to provide a fulcrum; two because one can either pry with even or differential pressure at two points. ....so the knob does pull off like the instructions say |
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On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 10:42:23 -0500, "dadiOH"
wrote: I saw a metal sink painted over, in a cheap apartment, one time. Yikk. Disgusting. Also painted over switches, sockets, and probably cockroaches. Sounds like a USN installation If it moves, paint it green. Go Army! If it don't move; paint it green anyway. Hooah! -- "Never accuse a Soldier of being a Marine" |
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On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 08:07:19 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote: On 11/3/2013 11:03 AM, Nate Nagel wrote: I don't know the answer to your question, but apparently the entire rest of the universe paints right over the covers and switches (except for Yours Truly, who is very annoyed by that practice.) nate I saw a metal sink painted over, in a cheap apartment, one time. Yikk. Disgusting. Also painted over switches, sockets, and probably cockroaches. We looked at a house that had a porcelain/cast sink and Formica kitchen counter painted over. The pool pump was sucking air, too. Pass. |
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"Oren" wrote in message
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 10:45:59 -0500, "dadiOH" wrote: OK, it's done. I used a couple of spoons - thanks to whoever suggested them - to pry with. They worked well because they were thin enough to get under the lip at top and bottom, rounded to provide a fulcrum; two because one can either pry with even or differential pressure at two points. ...so the knob does pull off like the instructions say HEY, not MY fault it didn't have instructions printed on it -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 10:26:48 -0500, "dadiOH" wrote:
I'm preparing to paint a room and was removing the switch/receptacle covers. One of the boxes has a Lutron Glyder dimmer switch. That switch has a cross piece...push on/off, slide to dim or brighten. Here's a photo: http://www.lutron.com/en-US/Products.../Overview.aspx The cross piece keeps the cover from being removed. The obvious solution is "remove the cross piece". My question is, "How?" I've tried pulling, twisting and prying, doesn't budge. I KNOW it comes off, has to, I put in the switch in the first place. Anybody know? Rather than risk breaking it, why not just be careful with your paintbrush and paint around the switch plate. It's not that difficult. I usually remove the plates too, but if that one is more work than just removing a screw or two, leave it alone! Some people use painters tape too. Personally I find it's more work to tape stuff than just carefully paint. All it takes is a wet paper towel to remove a couple drips that accidentally get in the wrong place. Just do it before the paint drys. |
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Rotating the cover plate do it will slip over the knob is what occurred to me, just like an earlier poster suggested.
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Rotating the cover plate do it will slip over the knob is what occurred to me, just like an earlier poster suggested. It's all ready done but just FYI, the shank of the cross piece prevented rotating the cover plate. -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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On Tue, 5 Nov 2013 18:20:29 -0500, "dadiOH"
wrote: It's all ready done but just FYI, the shank of the cross piece prevented rotating the cover plate. In ten years the Home Groaners Hub will reply. |
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