My home is much colder without incandescent light bulbs. Because of th
Nazi government in Washington, I was forced to replace them with those
stupid looking curly compact fluresent bulbs. Those things not only
look stupid, but they dont get hot like the old bulbs. Now I'm cold all
the time in winter. I might save a few cents on electricity but it's
much colder now. I dont like it.

Lucy

On 10/21/2013 8:35 AM, wrote:
My home is much colder without incandescent light bulbs. Because of th
Nazi government in Washington, I was forced to replace them with those
stupid looking curly compact fluresent bulbs. Those things not only
look stupid, but they dont get hot like the old bulbs. Now I'm cold all
the time in winter. I might save a few cents on electricity but it's
much colder now. I dont like it.

Lucy

The USA was founded based on personal liberty
and freedom. As such, you have the freedom to
do what the government allows.

Signed up for health care, yet?


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gee i love the lower electric bills, and look forward to even lower costs from lED bulbs.

turn your heat up a little its more efficent than heating from light bulbs

On Monday, October 21, 2013 8:35:00 AM UTC-4, wrote:
My home is much colder without incandescent light bulbs. Because of th
Nazi government in Washington, I was forced to replace them with those
stupid looking curly compact fluresent bulbs. Those things not only
look stupid, but they dont get hot like the old bulbs. Now I'm cold all
the time in winter. I might save a few cents on electricity but it's
much colder now. I dont like it.

What a crock.

If the incandescent bulbs made a noticeable difference to the temperature in your house either you've got a serious "Princess and the Pea" complex, or you are burning a LOT of bulbs.

You probably complained that incandescent bulbs made the house too hot in the summer too.

On 10/21/2013 07:35 AM, wrote:
My home is much colder without incandescent light bulbs. Because of th
Nazi government in Washington, I was forced to replace them with those
stupid looking curly compact fluresent bulbs. Those things not only
look stupid, but they dont get hot like the old bulbs. Now I'm cold all
the time in winter. I might save a few cents on electricity but it's
much colder now. I dont like it.

Lucy


Could tungsten incandescent bulbs be sold if they're renamed to
"miniature screw-in electric heaters"?

On 10/21/2013 7:35 AM, wrote:
My home is much colder without incandescent light bulbs. Because of
th Nazi government in Washington, I was forced to replace them with
those stupid looking curly compact fluresent bulbs. Those things not
only look stupid, but they dont get hot like the old bulbs. Now I'm
cold all the time in winter. I might save a few cents on electricity
but it's much colder now. I dont like it.

Lucy


Have you considered getting an appropriate light fixture, one of the
incandescent bulbs still available such as the pointy chandelier bulbs
and a long extension cord then inserting the bulb into your alimentary
canal exit port? Even a low wattage bulb should be enough to keep you
nice and toasty warm in the coldest of weather. ^_^

TDD

On 10/21/2013 11:37 AM, sam E wrote:
On 10/21/2013 07:35 AM, wrote:
My home is much colder without incandescent light bulbs. Because
of th Nazi government in Washington, I was forced to replace them
with those stupid looking curly compact fluresent bulbs. Those
things not only look stupid, but they dont get hot like the old
bulbs. Now I'm cold all the time in winter. I might save a few
cents on electricity but it's much colder now. I dont like it.

Lucy


Could tungsten incandescent bulbs be sold if they're renamed to
"miniature screw-in electric heaters"?


I remember a fellow in Germany tried that and the government shut him
down. I think it got too popular and you know that any government will
stop the citizenry from obtaining what they want. ^_^

TDD

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My home is much colder without incandescent light bulbs. Because of th
Nazi government in Washington, I was forced to replace them with those
stupid looking curly compact fluresent bulbs. Those things not only
look stupid, but they dont get hot like the old bulbs. Now I'm cold all
the time in winter. I might save a few cents on electricity but it's
much colder now. I dont like it.

Lucy

You must have missed the shelves in the store filled with halogen
incandescent bulbs.

Seems like the solution would be to get a set of halogen incandescent bulbs
and use them during the heating season and then put your existing CFL types
in for the summer and the cooling season. That way you get the heat that
you want and save energy on both heating and cooling.

Everyone moans and groans about what the government did or didn't do about
light bulbs; but what's happened in the market is that there are more bulb
choices on the retail shelves than ever before in history, prices for CFL
and LED bulbs have come down and consumers can take their pick of
incandescent, fluorescent or LED technology.

Maybe the main objection is that people have to actually learn something
about light bulbs to make the proper choice these days.

Tomsic

On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 09:01:36 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 10/21/2013 8:35 AM, wrote:
My home is much colder without incandescent light bulbs. Because of th
Nazi government in Washington, I was forced to replace them with those
stupid looking curly compact fluresent bulbs. Those things not only
look stupid, but they dont get hot like the old bulbs. Now I'm cold all
the time in winter. I might save a few cents on electricity but it's
much colder now. I dont like it.

Lucy

The USA was founded based on personal liberty
and freedom. As such, you have the freedom to
do what the government allows.

Signed up for health care, yet?

Silly Wabbit, HomoGay is a Cunickistani!

If his house is small and well insulated, heat loss could less than 20,000 btu's.
I heat 3000 sqft with under 40,000 btu , outside temps 5C

15 100w bulbs generates 5200btu's, at 100% efficiency, which could result in a very noticeable difference. I am not considering the incandescent short bulb life here.

If the cost of electricity is equal or less than his primary heating fuel, he would be better to stay with the CFL's or LED's and add a electric space heater

On 10/21/2013 03:24 PM, = wrote:

wrote in message
...
My home is much colder without incandescent light bulbs. Because of th
Nazi government in Washington, I was forced to replace them with those
stupid looking curly compact fluresent bulbs. Those things not only
look stupid, but they dont get hot like the old bulbs. Now I'm cold all
the time in winter. I might save a few cents on electricity but it's
much colder now. I dont like it.

Lucy

You must have missed the shelves in the store filled with halogen
incandescent bulbs.

Seems like the solution would be to get a set of halogen incandescent bulbs
and use them during the heating season and then put your existing CFL types
in for the summer and the cooling season. That way you get the heat that
you want and save energy on both heating and cooling.

Everyone moans and groans about what the government did or didn't do about
light bulbs; but what's happened in the market is that there are more bulb
choices on the retail shelves than ever before in history, prices for CFL
and LED bulbs have come down and consumers can take their pick of
incandescent, fluorescent or LED technology.

Maybe the main objection is that people have to actually learn something
about light bulbs to make the proper choice these days.

Tomsic




More gas or oil for your furnace is likely cheaper than the electricity
consumed by incandescent lights...

my real complaint with all the energy efficient bulbs is that if you
have antique lamps or fixtures designed for a large incandescent bulb,
it's impossible to find a drop in replacement that's as bright. But up
to about 60W or so LED is the way to go.

nate

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"Nate Nagel" wrote in message
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On 10/21/2013 03:24 PM, = wrote:

wrote in message
...
My home is much colder without incandescent light bulbs. Because of th
Nazi government in Washington, I was forced to replace them with those
stupid looking curly compact fluresent bulbs. Those things not only
look stupid, but they dont get hot like the old bulbs. Now I'm cold all
the time in winter. I might save a few cents on electricity but it's
much colder now. I dont like it.

Lucy

You must have missed the shelves in the store filled with halogen
incandescent bulbs.

Seems like the solution would be to get a set of halogen incandescent
bulbs
and use them during the heating season and then put your existing CFL
types
in for the summer and the cooling season. That way you get the heat
that
you want and save energy on both heating and cooling.

Everyone moans and groans about what the government did or didn't do
about
light bulbs; but what's happened in the market is that there are more
bulb
choices on the retail shelves than ever before in history, prices for CFL
and LED bulbs have come down and consumers can take their pick of
incandescent, fluorescent or LED technology.

Maybe the main objection is that people have to actually learn something
about light bulbs to make the proper choice these days.

Tomsic




More gas or oil for your furnace is likely cheaper than the electricity
consumed by incandescent lights...

my real complaint with all the energy efficient bulbs is that if you have
antique lamps or fixtures designed for a large incandescent bulb, it's
impossible to find a drop in replacement that's as bright. But up to
about 60W or so LED is the way to go.

nate

That's a good point. Electric heat is usually the most expensive among the
three choices that you mentioned. But, we're not talking about home
lighting that costs thousands of dollars/year to operate either. It's more
like $200-300/year according to the DOE report at http://alturl.com/qgbh2
with the heat contribution from lighting amounting to about 1700 kWh/year.
Maybe the OP is really talking about "visually colder" or the color of the
bulbs. That's easily fixed witha warm-tone bulb of lower color temperature.

Tomsic

That's a good point. Electric heat is usually the most expensive among the

three choices that you mentioned. But, we're not talking about home

lighting that costs thousands of dollars/year to operate either. It's more

like $200-300/year according to the DOE report at http://alturl.com/qgbh2

with the heat contribution from lighting amounting to about 1700 kWh/year.

Maybe the OP is really talking about "visually colder" or the color of the

bulbs. That's easily fixed witha warm-tone bulb of lower color temperature.




well no...

100 Watts of heat from a bulb in a lamp a few feet away while reading is plenty enough to feel the warmth on the back of my neck and allows me to set the thermostat lower.

Mark

= wrote:
"Nate Nagel" wrote in message
...
On 10/21/2013 03:24 PM, = wrote:

wrote in message
...
My home is much colder without incandescent light bulbs. Because of th
Nazi government in Washington, I was forced to replace them with those
stupid looking curly compact fluresent bulbs. Those things not only
look stupid, but they dont get hot like the old bulbs. Now I'm cold all
the time in winter. I might save a few cents on electricity but it's
much colder now. I dont like it.

Lucy

You must have missed the shelves in the store filled with halogen
incandescent bulbs.

Seems like the solution would be to get a set of halogen incandescent
bulbs
and use them during the heating season and then put your existing CFL
types
in for the summer and the cooling season. That way you get the heat
that
you want and save energy on both heating and cooling.

Everyone moans and groans about what the government did or didn't do
about
light bulbs; but what's happened in the market is that there are more
bulb
choices on the retail shelves than ever before in history, prices for CFL
and LED bulbs have come down and consumers can take their pick of
incandescent, fluorescent or LED technology.

Maybe the main objection is that people have to actually learn something
about light bulbs to make the proper choice these days.

Tomsic




More gas or oil for your furnace is likely cheaper than the electricity
consumed by incandescent lights...

my real complaint with all the energy efficient bulbs is that if you have
antique lamps or fixtures designed for a large incandescent bulb, it's
impossible to find a drop in replacement that's as bright. But up to
about 60W or so LED is the way to go.

nate

That's a good point. Electric heat is usually the most expensive among the
three choices that you mentioned. But, we're not talking about home
lighting that costs thousands of dollars/year to operate either. It's more
like $200-300/year according to the DOE report at http://alturl.com/qgbh2
with the heat contribution from lighting amounting to about 1700 kWh/year.
Maybe the OP is really talking about "visually colder" or the color of the
bulbs. That's easily fixed witha warm-tone bulb of lower color temperature.

Tomsic


Hmm,
Go one step further I gradually started using LED bulbs. Prices are
getting better with more choices. CFL gets pretty warm but LED is
cool to touch. And house has to be well insulaed no matter what.
Every little things we do to conserve energy counts. Think global,
act local.........

On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:52:47 -0400, "=" wrote:


"Nate Nagel" wrote in message
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On 10/21/2013 03:24 PM, = wrote:

wrote in message
...
My home is much colder without incandescent light bulbs. Because of th
Nazi government in Washington, I was forced to replace them with those
stupid looking curly compact fluresent bulbs. Those things not only
look stupid, but they dont get hot like the old bulbs. Now I'm cold all
the time in winter. I might save a few cents on electricity but it's
much colder now. I dont like it.

Lucy

You must have missed the shelves in the store filled with halogen
incandescent bulbs.

Seems like the solution would be to get a set of halogen incandescent
bulbs
and use them during the heating season and then put your existing CFL
types
in for the summer and the cooling season. That way you get the heat
that
you want and save energy on both heating and cooling.

Everyone moans and groans about what the government did or didn't do
about
light bulbs; but what's happened in the market is that there are more
bulb
choices on the retail shelves than ever before in history, prices for CFL
and LED bulbs have come down and consumers can take their pick of
incandescent, fluorescent or LED technology.

Maybe the main objection is that people have to actually learn something
about light bulbs to make the proper choice these days.

Tomsic




More gas or oil for your furnace is likely cheaper than the electricity
consumed by incandescent lights...

my real complaint with all the energy efficient bulbs is that if you have
antique lamps or fixtures designed for a large incandescent bulb, it's
impossible to find a drop in replacement that's as bright. But up to
about 60W or so LED is the way to go.

nate

That's a good point. Electric heat is usually the most expensive among the
three choices that you mentioned. But, we're not talking about home
lighting that costs thousands of dollars/year to operate either. It's more
like $200-300/year according to the DOE report at http://alturl.com/qgbh2
with the heat contribution from lighting amounting to about 1700 kWh/year.
Maybe the OP is really talking about "visually colder" or the color of the
bulbs. That's easily fixed witha warm-tone bulb of lower color temperature.

"home lighting that costs thousands of dollars/year to operate"

Now *THAT'S* funny! You must be a lefty.

On 10/23/2013 03:38 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
= wrote:
"Nate Nagel" wrote in message
...
On 10/21/2013 03:24 PM, = wrote:

wrote in message
...
My home is much colder without incandescent light bulbs. Because
of th
Nazi government in Washington, I was forced to replace them with those
stupid looking curly compact fluresent bulbs. Those things not only
look stupid, but they dont get hot like the old bulbs. Now I'm
cold all
the time in winter. I might save a few cents on electricity but it's
much colder now. I dont like it.

Lucy

You must have missed the shelves in the store filled with halogen
incandescent bulbs.

Seems like the solution would be to get a set of halogen incandescent
bulbs
and use them during the heating season and then put your existing CFL
types
in for the summer and the cooling season. That way you get the heat
that
you want and save energy on both heating and cooling.

Everyone moans and groans about what the government did or didn't do
about
light bulbs; but what's happened in the market is that there are more
bulb
choices on the retail shelves than ever before in history, prices
for CFL
and LED bulbs have come down and consumers can take their pick of
incandescent, fluorescent or LED technology.

Maybe the main objection is that people have to actually learn
something
about light bulbs to make the proper choice these days.

Tomsic




More gas or oil for your furnace is likely cheaper than the electricity
consumed by incandescent lights...

my real complaint with all the energy efficient bulbs is that if you
have
antique lamps or fixtures designed for a large incandescent bulb, it's
impossible to find a drop in replacement that's as bright. But up to
about 60W or so LED is the way to go.

nate

That's a good point. Electric heat is usually the most expensive
among the
three choices that you mentioned. But, we're not talking about home
lighting that costs thousands of dollars/year to operate either. It's
more
like $200-300/year according to the DOE report at
http://alturl.com/qgbh2
with the heat contribution from lighting amounting to about 1700
kWh/year.
Maybe the OP is really talking about "visually colder" or the color of
the
bulbs. That's easily fixed witha warm-tone bulb of lower color
temperature.

Tomsic


Hmm,
Go one step further I gradually started using LED bulbs. Prices are
getting better with more choices. CFL gets pretty warm but LED is
cool to touch. And house has to be well insulaed no matter what.
Every little things we do to conserve energy counts. Think global,
act local.........

I like the LED bulbs because they don't seem to have the drawbacks of
CFLs. I managed to get a small stash of Philips L-Prize bulbs while HD
had them for $15 apiece. They're still some of the finest LED "bulbs"
made to this date. 90+ CRI, nice warm color temp, and 10W for more
light than a traditional 60W incandescent. They dim pretty well too.

Unfortunately, nothing has hit the market since that compares... Cree
has a bulb that is aimed at the california market with high CRI but
they're not available here. Anything else that approaches the high CRI
and quality of the L-Prize is $50 or more apiece.

nate

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