On 2011-09-12, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:27:36 -0400, "Michael Angelo" michael@angelo wrote:

No need to stock up on old technology,

Too late. I've already piled up about 400 60W clear bulbs.

energy-saving halogens to the rescue.

http://www.thedailygreen.com/environ...-bulb-ban-0711

http://www.lighting.philips.com/us_e...oducts&lang=en


Halogens are great for some uses. I don't like them where the bulb is
part of the looks of the fixture, which almost all of mine are. They're
blinding if directly in the eyes. Shadows seem worse, too.

Did you not say before that you like clear incandescents of the kinds
being banned (which are mostly A19)? GE has four A19 medium-base clear
halogens that meet the energy efficiency standard for escaping the
2012-2014 ban. I have seen them at Target.

Philips has two soft-whitish A19 halogens that meet the energy efficiency
standard. One consumes 40 watts to produce 800 lumens, not far short
of 840-890 lumens typical of 60W 120V incandescents rated 1,000 hours.
The other consumes 70 watts to produce 1600 lumens, which is about 93%
of usual of a "full blast" name brand 750-hour-rated 100W 120V
incandescent. And about 45% brighter than most dollar store 100W
incandescents.
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- Don Klipstein )

On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 05:02:13 +0000 (UTC), Don Klipstein
wrote:

On 2011-09-12, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:27:36 -0400, "Michael Angelo" michael@angelo wrote:

No need to stock up on old technology,

Too late. I've already piled up about 400 60W clear bulbs.

energy-saving halogens to the rescue.

http://www.thedailygreen.com/environ...-bulb-ban-0711

http://www.lighting.philips.com/us_e...oducts&lang=en


Halogens are great for some uses. I don't like them where the bulb is
part of the looks of the fixture, which almost all of mine are. They're
blinding if directly in the eyes. Shadows seem worse, too.

Did you not say before that you like clear incandescents of the kinds
being banned (which are mostly A19)?

Only because the fixtures rather demand them.

GE has four A19 medium-base clear
halogens that meet the energy efficiency standard for escaping the
2012-2014 ban. I have seen them at Target.

I have them in a fixture in the kitchen. The shadows are much harsher when
that fixture is on, than when the others with standard (clear) A19s are on.
It's good light, for some things, but I won't put them in the other fixture
because of the harsh light. OTOH, I had halogens in Sofitt cans (previous
house) and they were great; very concentrated white light where it was needed.

Again, I'm not anti-halogen, just that there are some applications where they
work and some not so much.

Philips has two soft-whitish A19 halogens that meet the energy efficiency
standard.

Clear? How you do that.

One consumes 40 watts to produce 800 lumens, not far short
of 840-890 lumens typical of 60W 120V incandescents rated 1,000 hours.
The other consumes 70 watts to produce 1600 lumens, which is about 93%
of usual of a "full blast" name brand 750-hour-rated 100W 120V
incandescent. And about 45% brighter than most dollar store 100W
incandescents.

I don't have a 100W bulb in the house (two in the garage?).