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I am working on 2 bids for a customer who would prefer a wood as opposed to a metal cover for the porch.

It would be added on to the house.

He is concerned about the strength issue because of living in a hurricane prone area. (20 miles from Galveston, Texas)

I am interested in your thoughts on construction technique especially if he goes with a metal roof.

Comments on other areas welcome too.

Thanks,

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I am working on 2 bids for a customer who would prefer a wood as opposed to a metal cover for the porch.

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It would be added on to the house.

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He is concerned about the strength issue because of living in a hurricane prone area. (20 miles from Galveston, Texas)

He can follow the local hurricane building codes, double that, and
hope for the best.

I am interested in your thoughts on construction technique especially if he goes with a metal roof.

Have good insurance or savings and replace it after the storm?

Point is, check the local codes for a better answer...
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 06:03:01 -0700 (PDT), Andy

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I am working on 2 bids for a customer who would prefer a wood as opposed to a metal cover for the porch.




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It would be added on to the house.




Check



He is concerned about the strength issue because of living in a hurricane prone area. (20 miles from Galveston, Texas)




He can follow the local hurricane building codes, double that, and

hope for the best.



I am interested in your thoughts on construction technique especially if he goes with a metal roof.




Have good insurance or savings and replace it after the storm?



Point is, check the local codes for a better answer...


Local codes don't give any information to my questions.

But thanks for answering.

Andy

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On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:42:28 -0700 (PDT), Andy
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On Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:10:06 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 06:03:01 -0700 (PDT), Andy

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I am working on 2 bids for a customer who would prefer a wood as opposed to a metal cover for the porch.




Check



It would be added on to the house.




Check



He is concerned about the strength issue because of living in a hurricane prone area. (20 miles from Galveston, Texas)




He can follow the local hurricane building codes, double that, and

hope for the best.



I am interested in your thoughts on construction technique especially if he goes with a metal roof.




Have good insurance or savings and replace it after the storm?



Point is, check the local codes for a better answer...


Local codes don't give any information to my questions.

But thanks for answering.

Andy


I did not see a specific question, but if you give some details about
the house construction, siding, size of the roof cover and such, folks
may have solutions for you.

On mine I wanted a match for stucco. Three columns, 22' beam, Spanish
type tile, stucco ceiling and columns, Simpson strong ties, stucco on
the house was cut back to the framing and the ledger board was lag
bolted in, flashing, etc., etc... Two of us built it, but I hired out
the stucco. After 8+ years there is not a single crack.

My neighbor has the Alumawood patio cover.
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:42:28 -0700 (PDT), Andy

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On Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:10:06 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote:


On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 06:03:01 -0700 (PDT), Andy




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I am working on 2 bids for a customer who would prefer a wood as opposed to a metal cover for the porch.








Check








It would be added on to the house.








Check








He is concerned about the strength issue because of living in a hurricane prone area. (20 miles from Galveston, Texas)








He can follow the local hurricane building codes, double that, and




hope for the best.








I am interested in your thoughts on construction technique especially if he goes with a metal roof.








Have good insurance or savings and replace it after the storm?








Point is, check the local codes for a better answer...




Local codes don't give any information to my questions.




But thanks for answering.




Andy




I did not see a specific question, but if you give some details about

the house construction, siding, size of the roof cover and such, folks

may have solutions for you.



On mine I wanted a match for stucco. Three columns, 22' beam, Spanish

type tile, stucco ceiling and columns, Simpson strong ties, stucco on

the house was cut back to the framing and the ledger board was lag

bolted in, flashing, etc., etc... Two of us built it, but I hired out

the stucco. After 8+ years there is not a single crack.



My neighbor has the Alumawood patio cover.


Thanks for the questions.

My customer decided on wood.

The cover will go over a 10' X 20' slab.

I will use 6 x 6 treated lumber beams and the cover will be attached to the house which has vinyl siding.

Shingled roof.

He has a whole house generator that can be hooked up upon a power loss.

He once lost power for a week.

Andy



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On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 15:03:49 -0700 (PDT), Andy
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Thanks for the questions.


Sorry. I never asked a question.

My customer decided on wood.

The cover will go over a 10' X 20' slab.


Now we are getting there. Same size as mine.

I will use 6 x 6 treated lumber beams and the cover will be attached to the house which has vinyl siding.


Do yourself a favor and attach the cover to the house AND not the
siding. I think you mean that.

I used a lam-beam (laminated wood) to span 22' (4" X10" X 22 ft.).
Ledger board on the house framing was a 2X 10.

Shingled roof.


That will change the roof pitch and be easier.

He has a whole house generator that can be hooked up upon a power loss.


Okay.

He once lost power for a week.


Okay.

What happens when a hurricane hits Galveston and rips the cover off
the house?

Did you check for permit requirements?

Follow the local building codes that you resist.
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Thanks for the questions.

My customer decided on wood.

The cover will go over a 10' X 20' slab.

I will use 6 x 6 treated lumber beams and the cover will be attached to
the house which has vinyl siding.

Shingled roof.

He has a whole house generator that can be hooked up upon a power loss.

He once lost power for a week.

Andy


What does a generator have to do with what type of roof will be used for
the patio cover?
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I am working on 2 bids for a customer who would prefer a wood as opposed to a metal cover for the porch.

It would be added on to the house.

He is concerned about the strength issue because of living in a hurricane prone area. (20 miles from Galveston, Texas)

I am interested in your thoughts on construction technique especially if he goes with a metal roof.

Comments on other areas welcome too.


Wait a minute. You're contracting to do something you don't know how
to do? And asking here?
Talk to tradesmen who know about the engineering/construction methods.
Then decide whether you want to squeeze your customer for the most
money, or give him the best recommendation.
Canopies/awnings/small roofs made of metal/fiberglass/plastic
materials will always be lighter and easier to maintain.
Esthetics is another issue.



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Wait a minute. You're contracting to do something you don't know how
to do? And asking here?


(I though the same thing earlier)

OP seems to think building codes are not informative.

For my patio cover, the drawing and measurements was on a piece of
yellow legal paper. The PERMIT office gave me all the information
needed to build it. CAD drawings for the column footers, calculations
based on the roofing material, bean size, etc. I also had a permit for
the electrical work - two fans and additional outdoor GFCI
receptacles.

"Contracting" in my state (NV) without a license is a felony. A home
owner can act as a contractor for their own home improvements.
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 06:03:01 -0700 (PDT), Andy

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I am working on 2 bids for a customer who would prefer a wood as opposed to a metal cover for the porch.




It would be added on to the house.




He is concerned about the strength issue because of living in a hurricane prone area. (20 miles from Galveston, Texas)




I am interested in your thoughts on construction technique especially if he goes with a metal roof.




Comments on other areas welcome too.






Wait a minute. You're contracting to do something you don't know how

to do? And asking here?

Talk to tradesmen who know about the engineering/construction methods.

Then decide whether you want to squeeze your customer for the most

money, or give him the best recommendation.

Canopies/awnings/small roofs made of metal/fiberglass/plastic

materials will always be lighter and easier to maintain.

Esthetics is another issue.


Concerning your belief that I don't know what I am doing.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, even if it's wrong.

Take care.

Andy


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On Friday, August 23, 2013 6:07:08 PM UTC-4, Andy wrote:
Concerning your belief that I don't know what I am doing.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, even if it's wrong.


If you knew what you were doing, you wouldn't be referring to a patio roof as a "cover," and you wouldn't be asking for construction tips on this newsgroup.

You also wouldn't be spouting random BS about generators that have nothing to do with the subject at hand.
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If you knew what you were doing, you wouldn't be referring to a patio roof as a "cover,"


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On Friday, August 23, 2013 6:07:08 PM UTC-4, Andy wrote:
Concerning your belief that I don't know what I am doing.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, even if it's wrong.


If you knew what you were doing, you wouldn't be referring to a patio roof as a "cover,"


Have you DAGS for Patio Covers recently?

and you wouldn't be asking for construction tips on this newsgroup.


Do you know what a.h.r stands for? With all of the OT stuff that ends up in
this newsgroup, an actual construction question is a welcome sight.

You also wouldn't be spouting random BS about generators that have
nothing to do with the subject at hand.


The OP does seem to toss random comments into his posts, but he did
eventually connect the generator's noise with a question as to whether or
not that might factor into the patio cover's construction. One could argue
that there are ways to build the cover that would "muffle" the noise from
the generator or perhaps something could be built around the generator as
part of the project - something which might impact the construction of the
cover itself.
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