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I am working on 2 bids for a customer who would prefer a wood as opposed to a metal cover for the porch.
It would be added on to the house. He is concerned about the strength issue because of living in a hurricane prone area. (20 miles from Galveston, Texas) I am interested in your thoughts on construction technique especially if he goes with a metal roof. Comments on other areas welcome too. Thanks, Andy |
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 06:03:01 -0700 (PDT), Andy
wrote: I am working on 2 bids for a customer who would prefer a wood as opposed to a metal cover for the porch. Check It would be added on to the house. Check He is concerned about the strength issue because of living in a hurricane prone area. (20 miles from Galveston, Texas) He can follow the local hurricane building codes, double that, and hope for the best. I am interested in your thoughts on construction technique especially if he goes with a metal roof. Have good insurance or savings and replace it after the storm? Point is, check the local codes for a better answer... |
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On Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:10:06 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 06:03:01 -0700 (PDT), Andy wrote: I am working on 2 bids for a customer who would prefer a wood as opposed to a metal cover for the porch. Check It would be added on to the house. Check He is concerned about the strength issue because of living in a hurricane prone area. (20 miles from Galveston, Texas) He can follow the local hurricane building codes, double that, and hope for the best. I am interested in your thoughts on construction technique especially if he goes with a metal roof. Have good insurance or savings and replace it after the storm? Point is, check the local codes for a better answer... Local codes don't give any information to my questions. But thanks for answering. Andy |
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:42:28 -0700 (PDT), Andy
wrote: On Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:10:06 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 06:03:01 -0700 (PDT), Andy wrote: I am working on 2 bids for a customer who would prefer a wood as opposed to a metal cover for the porch. Check It would be added on to the house. Check He is concerned about the strength issue because of living in a hurricane prone area. (20 miles from Galveston, Texas) He can follow the local hurricane building codes, double that, and hope for the best. I am interested in your thoughts on construction technique especially if he goes with a metal roof. Have good insurance or savings and replace it after the storm? Point is, check the local codes for a better answer... Local codes don't give any information to my questions. But thanks for answering. Andy I did not see a specific question, but if you give some details about the house construction, siding, size of the roof cover and such, folks may have solutions for you. On mine I wanted a match for stucco. Three columns, 22' beam, Spanish type tile, stucco ceiling and columns, Simpson strong ties, stucco on the house was cut back to the framing and the ledger board was lag bolted in, flashing, etc., etc... Two of us built it, but I hired out the stucco. After 8+ years there is not a single crack. My neighbor has the Alumawood patio cover. |
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On Friday, August 23, 2013 8:24:49 AM UTC-5, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:42:28 -0700 (PDT), Andy wrote: On Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:10:06 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 06:03:01 -0700 (PDT), Andy wrote: I am working on 2 bids for a customer who would prefer a wood as opposed to a metal cover for the porch. Check It would be added on to the house. Check He is concerned about the strength issue because of living in a hurricane prone area. (20 miles from Galveston, Texas) He can follow the local hurricane building codes, double that, and hope for the best. I am interested in your thoughts on construction technique especially if he goes with a metal roof. Have good insurance or savings and replace it after the storm? Point is, check the local codes for a better answer... Local codes don't give any information to my questions. But thanks for answering. Andy I did not see a specific question, but if you give some details about the house construction, siding, size of the roof cover and such, folks may have solutions for you. On mine I wanted a match for stucco. Three columns, 22' beam, Spanish type tile, stucco ceiling and columns, Simpson strong ties, stucco on the house was cut back to the framing and the ledger board was lag bolted in, flashing, etc., etc... Two of us built it, but I hired out the stucco. After 8+ years there is not a single crack. My neighbor has the Alumawood patio cover. Thanks for the questions. My customer decided on wood. The cover will go over a 10' X 20' slab. I will use 6 x 6 treated lumber beams and the cover will be attached to the house which has vinyl siding. Shingled roof. He has a whole house generator that can be hooked up upon a power loss. He once lost power for a week. Andy |
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On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 15:03:49 -0700 (PDT), Andy
wrote: Thanks for the questions. Sorry. I never asked a question. My customer decided on wood. The cover will go over a 10' X 20' slab. Now we are getting there. Same size as mine. I will use 6 x 6 treated lumber beams and the cover will be attached to the house which has vinyl siding. Do yourself a favor and attach the cover to the house AND not the siding. I think you mean that. I used a lam-beam (laminated wood) to span 22' (4" X10" X 22 ft.). Ledger board on the house framing was a 2X 10. Shingled roof. That will change the roof pitch and be easier. He has a whole house generator that can be hooked up upon a power loss. Okay. He once lost power for a week. Okay. What happens when a hurricane hits Galveston and rips the cover off the house? Did you check for permit requirements? Follow the local building codes that you resist. |
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Andy wrote:
....Snip... Thanks for the questions. My customer decided on wood. The cover will go over a 10' X 20' slab. I will use 6 x 6 treated lumber beams and the cover will be attached to the house which has vinyl siding. Shingled roof. He has a whole house generator that can be hooked up upon a power loss. He once lost power for a week. Andy What does a generator have to do with what type of roof will be used for the patio cover? |
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 06:03:01 -0700 (PDT), Andy
wrote: I am working on 2 bids for a customer who would prefer a wood as opposed to a metal cover for the porch. It would be added on to the house. He is concerned about the strength issue because of living in a hurricane prone area. (20 miles from Galveston, Texas) I am interested in your thoughts on construction technique especially if he goes with a metal roof. Comments on other areas welcome too. Wait a minute. You're contracting to do something you don't know how to do? And asking here? Talk to tradesmen who know about the engineering/construction methods. Then decide whether you want to squeeze your customer for the most money, or give him the best recommendation. Canopies/awnings/small roofs made of metal/fiberglass/plastic materials will always be lighter and easier to maintain. Esthetics is another issue. |
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On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:57:43 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: Wait a minute. You're contracting to do something you don't know how to do? And asking here? (I though the same thing earlier) OP seems to think building codes are not informative. For my patio cover, the drawing and measurements was on a piece of yellow legal paper. The PERMIT office gave me all the information needed to build it. CAD drawings for the column footers, calculations based on the roofing material, bean size, etc. I also had a permit for the electrical work - two fans and additional outdoor GFCI receptacles. "Contracting" in my state (NV) without a license is a felony. A home owner can act as a contractor for their own home improvements. |
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On Friday, August 23, 2013 12:57:43 PM UTC-5, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 06:03:01 -0700 (PDT), Andy wrote: I am working on 2 bids for a customer who would prefer a wood as opposed to a metal cover for the porch. It would be added on to the house. He is concerned about the strength issue because of living in a hurricane prone area. (20 miles from Galveston, Texas) I am interested in your thoughts on construction technique especially if he goes with a metal roof. Comments on other areas welcome too. Wait a minute. You're contracting to do something you don't know how to do? And asking here? Talk to tradesmen who know about the engineering/construction methods. Then decide whether you want to squeeze your customer for the most money, or give him the best recommendation. Canopies/awnings/small roofs made of metal/fiberglass/plastic materials will always be lighter and easier to maintain. Esthetics is another issue. Concerning your belief that I don't know what I am doing. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, even if it's wrong. Take care. Andy |
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On Friday, August 23, 2013 6:07:08 PM UTC-4, Andy wrote:
Concerning your belief that I don't know what I am doing. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, even if it's wrong. If you knew what you were doing, you wouldn't be referring to a patio roof as a "cover," and you wouldn't be asking for construction tips on this newsgroup. You also wouldn't be spouting random BS about generators that have nothing to do with the subject at hand. |
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On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:10:44 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
If you knew what you were doing, you wouldn't be referring to a patio roof as a "cover," http://lmgtfy.com/?q=images%3A+patio+cover |
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On Friday, August 23, 2013 6:07:08 PM UTC-4, Andy wrote: Concerning your belief that I don't know what I am doing. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, even if it's wrong. If you knew what you were doing, you wouldn't be referring to a patio roof as a "cover," Have you DAGS for Patio Covers recently? and you wouldn't be asking for construction tips on this newsgroup. Do you know what a.h.r stands for? With all of the OT stuff that ends up in this newsgroup, an actual construction question is a welcome sight. You also wouldn't be spouting random BS about generators that have nothing to do with the subject at hand. The OP does seem to toss random comments into his posts, but he did eventually connect the generator's noise with a question as to whether or not that might factor into the patio cover's construction. One could argue that there are ways to build the cover that would "muffle" the noise from the generator or perhaps something could be built around the generator as part of the project - something which might impact the construction of the cover itself. |
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