I've recently had to use these and if you re-key per instructions (using the tool) then you have a lock that will work with 2 different keys...you haven't changed the key. You have added another one that works the lock!

Funny since they advertise, "Don't change the lock...change the key?" Think of the X partner trying to keep the other out of the house/apt.

On 07/11/2013 10:14 AM, Bob_Villa wrote:
I've recently had to use these and if you re-key per instructions
(using the tool) then you have a lock that will work with 2 different
keys...you haven't changed the key. You have added another one that
works the lock!

Funny since they advertise, "Don't change the lock...change the key?"
Think of the X partner trying to keep the other out of the
house/apt.


Well, if you're actually trying for more security than "keeping honest
people honest" you're not using Kwikset locks anyway.

So you've actually verified that it will still work with the key that it
shipped with? I kind of suspected that that might be the case. I
couldn't really imagine how it could work any other way - and also that
the tumbler pins are probably awful fragile making it susceptible to
just hammering a screwdriver in there and twisting really hard.

nate

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In article ,
Bob_Villa wrote:

I've recently had to use these and if you re-key per instructions (using the
tool) then you have a lock that will work with 2 different keys...you haven't
changed the key. You have added another one that works the lock!

Funny since they advertise, "Don't change the lock...change the key?" Think
of the X partner trying to keep the other out of the house/apt.

Bob-

I have four of these SmartKey lock sets. None of their original keys
work after the lock sets were re-keyed. I just double-checked.

I wonder if you happened to get one that had the same key as the one you
wanted to change to? Can you check the original key on a different lock
that came with your preferred key?

Fred

On Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:16:52 AM UTC-5, Fred McKenzie wrote:
In article ,

Bob_Villa wrote:



I've recently had to use these and if you re-key per instructions (using the

tool) then you have a lock that will work with 2 different keys...you haven't

changed the key. You have added another one that works the lock!



Funny since they advertise, "Don't change the lock...change the key?" Think

of the X partner trying to keep the other out of the house/apt.



Bob-



I have four of these SmartKey lock sets. None of their original keys

work after the lock sets were re-keyed. I just double-checked.



I wonder if you happened to get one that had the same key as the one you

wanted to change to? Can you check the original key on a different lock

that came with your preferred key?



Fred

Fred, you are absolute correct...the numbers are the same! You're the man...and I'm not...

On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 09:25:10 -0700 (PDT), Bob_Villa
wrote:

Fred, you are absolute correct...the numbers are the same!

If you have no old Kwikset keys, a locksmith will usually have a
bucket of old keys, for small fee.

On Thursday, July 11, 2013 1:12:27 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 09:25:10 -0700 (PDT), Bob_Villa

wrote:



Fred, you are absolute correct...the numbers are the same!



If you have no old Kwikset keys, a locksmith will usually have a

bucket of old keys, for small fee.

Here's the thing...I wanted them the same but didn't know they were (stupidity on my part-well I am old!). Turned-out I couldn't use it for the other lock because of an odd backset.

On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:14:20 -0700 (PDT), Bob_Villa
wrote:

I've recently had to use these and if you re-key per instructions (using the tool) then you have a lock that will work with 2 different keys...you haven't changed the key. You have added another one that works the lock!

Funny since they advertise, "Don't change the lock...change the key?" Think of the X partner trying to keep the other out of the house/apt.

The Wieser "re-keyable" lock CHANGES the key so the original does not
work any more. It is a disk lock, not a tumbler lock - and can be
troublesome. The secret is NEVER use a key that has lower protrusions
at the end than at the root. Said differently, you don't want the key
to taper towards the point.

There are apparently other resetable locks that have a master that
does not change, and changeable "pass keys". I've never seen one or
worked with one.

wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:14:20 -0700 (PDT), Bob_Villa
wrote:

I've recently had to use these and if you re-key per instructions
(using the tool) then you have a lock that will work with 2
different keys...you haven't changed the key. You have added another
one that works the lock!

Funny since they advertise, "Don't change the lock...change the
key?" Think of the X partner trying to keep the other out of the
house/apt.

The Wieser "re-keyable" lock CHANGES the key so the original does not
work any more. It is a disk lock, not a tumbler lock - and can be
troublesome. The secret is NEVER use a key that has lower protrusions
at the end than at the root. Said differently, you don't want the key
to taper towards the point.

There are apparently other resetable locks that have a master that
does not change, and changeable "pass keys". I've never seen one or
worked with one.

I bought a re-key kit years ago, and can re-key my locks any time I want.
There's enough pins in the kit to do a lot more locks. No special locks needed.

On Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:14:20 AM UTC-4, Bob_Villa wrote:
I've recently had to use these and if you re-key per instructions (using the tool) then you have a lock that will work with 2 different keys...you haven't changed the key. You have added another one that works the lock!



Funny since they advertise, "Don't change the lock...change the key?" Think of the X partner trying to keep the other out of the house/apt.

much better choice is a electronic touch pad lock, easy change of code, set a special one time code to let visitor like someone checkng on pets while your on vacation, never a lost key, impossible to lock yourself out...

batteries last over a year, common AA and lock warns you when battery is low....

best thing i have bought in years