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Simple drywall/sheetrock question
We all know there are several thicknesses of drywall. What general
applications are required for each thickness? Code? For example, if building a closet, other than the obvious thickness, is it acceptable to use 1/4" instead of 3/8' or 1/2" and vice versa? |
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On Jun 17, 7:12*am, Meanie wrote:
We all know there are several thicknesses of drywall. What general applications are required for each thickness? Code? For example, if building a closet, other than the obvious thickness, is it acceptable to use 1/4" instead of 3/8' or 1/2" and vice versa? I don't know about code specifics, but generally 1/2" is used everywhere for ceilings, wall, closets, etc. If there are fire rating issues, for example, then thicker may be required. I would never use 1/4" for anything, unless it was absolutely necessary because of a critical space or similar issue. And even then, it better be a protected area, because 1/4" is flimsy. I bought some 1/4" couple years ago for just such a need. As I recall, it was about the same price as 1/2" too, so you're not saving anything. |
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On Jun 17, 6:12 am, Meanie wrote:
We all know there are several thicknesses of drywall. What general applications are required for each thickness? Code? For example, if building a closet, other than the obvious thickness, is it acceptable to use 1/4" instead of 3/8' or 1/2" and vice versa? Well, around here, 5/8 is used for firestop, that is, a ceiling in a room below a bedroom. Otherwise, 1/2 is the norm for almost everything. I use 1/4 for making arches, such as arched doorways, because it is easier to bend, especially when wetted down.... If it seems too flimsy, just put another layer of 1/4 over the first. I am not aware of the uses of 3/8... |
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On 6/17/2013 7:35 AM, Robert wrote:
.... I am not aware of the uses of 3/8... Find it in spec/low-end housing (as in cheap) simply for that reason. If building large spaces it can be a noticeable input cost differential to the developer. Some will try it for ceilings for the weight -- w/ trusses (2x4 flat surfaces) the net span on 16" centers may be enough to keep bowing from being too excessive. Otherwise, for OPs question, it would be a passable alternative for his proposed closets and other low-traffic areas for (as noted) minimal cost-savings. -- |
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Meanie wrote in :
We all know there are several thicknesses of drywall. What general applications are required for each thickness? Code? For example, if building a closet, other than the obvious thickness, is it acceptable to use 1/4" instead of 3/8' or 1/2" and vice versa? 1/4" on top of existing drywall/plywood/osb to get a new surface. 3/8 to build up or if you're a hack putting it where 1/2 should be used. 1/2 for interior walls. 1/2 can be used on ceiling if allowed by local code. 5/8 on ceilings to prevent sagging or required by local code. 5/8" Firecode may be required in such places as walls adjacent to garages, common walls in multi family buildings. Actually, the firecode is not based on thickness. There is a 1/2 firecode. Type X is what specifies the fire rating. Then there's the moisture resistant rock group. Simple question already getting not so simple :-( In the simple closet example you gave, go 1/2" if being attached to the studs." Disclaimer: not a high knowledge drywall person. Reply priced accordingly. |
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On Jun 17, 8:26*am, "
wrote: On Jun 17, 7:12*am, Meanie wrote: We all know there are several thicknesses of drywall. What general applications are required for each thickness? Code? For example, if building a closet, other than the obvious thickness, is it acceptable to use 1/4" instead of 3/8' or 1/2" and vice versa? I don't know about code specifics, but generally 1/2" is used everywhere for ceilings, wall, closets, etc. *If there are fire rating issues, for example, then thicker may be required. * I would never use 1/4" for anything, unless it was absolutely necessary because of a critical space or similar issue. *And even then, it better be a protected area, because 1/4" is flimsy. I have used 1/4" in 3 situations: 1 - The flat section of a ceiling over basement steps where the paint on the original plaster was so badly peeled that putting up a ~3' x 3' piece of 1/4" drywall and taping the corners was easier than trying to scrape and skimcoat the original ceiling. Glued and screwed. 2 - Similar situation for a bathroom ceiling with a flat section and a sloped section with a curved junction. Bending the 1/4" worked OK, but I smoothed out the curve with drywall compound. Glued and screwed. I had scraped and sanded the original plaster too many times to want to do it again. The drywall has held the paint for many years, something I can't say about the plaster. 3 - Same bathroom, small area above window. The walls in my house are 3/8" brown gypsum board coated with ~ 3/8" plaster. The area above the window continually peeling and the plaster was cracked. I used my HF Multi-Function tool tool to remove the plaster down to the wall board and then shimmed the area to accept the 1/4" drywall that I had left over from the staircase ceiling job. I might have tried 3/8", but I didn't have any 3/8" scraps so I used what I had available. Besides, with the shims, if was fairly easy to get the 1/4" drywall flush with the surrounding plaster. I agree that it needs some sort of backing, 1/4" is too flimsy to be used by itself over a large area. I bought some 1/4" couple years ago for just such a need. *As I recall, it was about the same price as 1/2" too, so you're not saving anything. |
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On Jun 17, 10:01*am, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Jun 17, 8:26*am, " wrote: On Jun 17, 7:12*am, Meanie wrote: We all know there are several thicknesses of drywall. What general applications are required for each thickness? Code? For example, if building a closet, other than the obvious thickness, is it acceptable to use 1/4" instead of 3/8' or 1/2" and vice versa? I don't know about code specifics, but generally 1/2" is used everywhere for ceilings, wall, closets, etc. *If there are fire rating issues, for example, then thicker may be required. * I would never use 1/4" for anything, unless it was absolutely necessary because of a critical space or similar issue. *And even then, it better be a protected area, because 1/4" is flimsy. I have used 1/4" in 3 situations: 1 - The flat section of a ceiling over basement steps where the paint on the original plaster was so badly peeled that putting up a ~3' x 3' piece of 1/4" drywall and taping the corners was easier than trying to scrape and skimcoat the original ceiling. Glued and screwed. 2 - Similar situation for a bathroom ceiling with a flat section and a sloped section with a curved junction. Bending the 1/4" worked OK, but I smoothed out the curve with drywall compound. Glued and screwed. I had scraped and sanded the original plaster too many times to want to do it again. The drywall has held the paint for many years, something I can't say about the plaster. 3 - Same bathroom, small area above window. The walls in my house are 3/8" brown gypsum board coated with ~ 3/8" plaster. The area above the window continually peeling and the plaster was cracked. I used my HF Multi-Function tool tool to remove the plaster down to the wall board and then shimmed the area to accept the 1/4" drywall that I had left over from the staircase ceiling job. I might have tried 3/8", but I didn't have any 3/8" scraps so I used what I had available. Besides, with the shims, if was fairly easy to get the 1/4" drywall flush with the surrounding plaster. I agree that it needs some sort of backing, 1/4" is too flimsy to be used by itself over a large area. I bought some 1/4" couple years ago for just such a need. *As I recall, it was about the same price as 1/2" too, so you're not saving anything.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, good point. If it's going over existing to make a new finish, that makes sense too. |
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On Jun 17, 2:21*pm, "dadiOH" wrote:
wrote: I would never use 1/4" for anything, unless it was absolutely necessary because of a critical space or similar issue. *And even then, it better be a protected area, because 1/4" is flimsy. It's good for curved surfaces. *Put on one layer - wet if necessary - then another layer on top. -- dadiOH Couldn"t I accomplish the same thing by getting 1/2" drywall twice as wet? ;-) |
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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 05:35:44 -0700 (PDT), Robert
wrote: I am not aware of the uses of 3/8... I've use it where I wanted the appearance of a drywall finish, but had no code or structural issues to be concerned about. Like a closet liner. Main advantage is ease of use with the low weight. |
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On Jun 17, 3:15*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Jun 17, 2:21*pm, "dadiOH" wrote: wrote: I would never use 1/4" for anything, unless it was absolutely necessary because of a critical space or similar issue. *And even then, it better be a protected area, because 1/4" is flimsy. It's good for curved surfaces. *Put on one layer - wet if necessary - then another layer on top. -- dadiOH Couldn"t I accomplish the same thing by getting 1/2" drywall twice as wet? *;-) or make cuts on the backside to help it bend. Lots of cuts every half inch or so |
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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 07:12:51 -0400, Meanie
wrote: We all know there are several thicknesses of drywall. What general applications are required for each thickness? Code? For example, if building a closet, other than the obvious thickness, is it acceptable to use 1/4" instead of 3/8' or 1/2" and vice versa? I can only speak to my experience. I've hung a lot of sheet rock as a young man (remember blue nails). I still follow the notion that a ceiling is 5/8", walls are always 1/2". Just my nature. Now. For a small closet there is nothing wrong to use 1/2" in the ceiling and walls. 5/8" on the ceiling is primarily for fire, sound and attic heat prevention. BTW. Every drywall person learns in the closet :-\ An easy place for mistakes that can be fixed easily. |
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