Not sure what they are called, but I'm talking about the little devices low
on the garage door frame that detect when an object such as an animal is
under the door.

One of these got knocked out of alignment when something fell against it.
So now, the garage door won't close unless I hold the button down while it
closes.

I don't know how to align them so they work again. I have not been
particularly observant as to whether there is supposed to be a light showing
on both of them, or only one. Right now, there is a light only on one side
of the door frame.

Anyway, I'd appreciate some advice on how to align these devices. It is a
16 foot opening, so laying a board across from one to the other is pretty
much out.

Bob

On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:52:27 AM UTC-4, OMB wrote:
Not sure what they are called, but I'm talking about the little devices low

on the garage door frame that detect when an object such as an animal is

under the door.



One of these got knocked out of alignment when something fell against it.

So now, the garage door won't close unless I hold the button down while it

closes.



I don't know how to align them so they work again. I have not been

particularly observant as to whether there is supposed to be a light showing

on both of them, or only one. Right now, there is a light only on one side

of the door frame.



Anyway, I'd appreciate some advice on how to align these devices. It is a

16 foot opening, so laying a board across from one to the other is pretty

much out.



Bob

I'd try tying a long string around the one which wasn't damaged then take the loose end over to the damaged one. Lightly pull the string tight enough so that you get a straight line without pulling the undamaged one off the wall. Use that as a guide to align the devices.

A high-tech way to do it would be to use one of those leveler/measurer lasers, if you have one of those.

Paul

On 5/28/2013 3:52 AM, OMB wrote:
Not sure what they are called, but I'm talking about the little devices
low on the garage door frame that detect when an object such as an
animal is under the door.

One of these got knocked out of alignment when something fell against
it. So now, the garage door won't close unless I hold the button down
while it closes.

I don't know how to align them so they work again. I have not been
particularly observant as to whether there is supposed to be a light
showing on both of them, or only one. Right now, there is a light only
on one side of the door frame.

There should be an AMBER LED light glowing on the sending unit
regardless of alignment.

The GREEN LED light on the receiving unit will only be glowing when the
units are in alignment.


Anyway, I'd appreciate some advice on how to align these devices. It is
a 16 foot opening, so laying a board across from one to the other is
pretty much out.

If you have the AMBER light showing, go to the other unit and just move
it around until the GREEN light comes on. Alignment is NOT that
critical. You do not need to use string, a board, laser level or
micrometers g to adjust this.

Here's a video that will help if you still need it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9TnY9U9rVU

Note that IF the "something" that fell against it happened to be a kid
ramming a bicycle into it, or somebody letting a 12 lb sledgehammer
"bump" it, the unit may be broken and need replacement. You cannot
align a unit that is toast.

Bob,

YouTube has many videos of this alignment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHIytLm0iAU

Dave M.

On May 28, 7:17*am, Pavel314 wrote:
On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:52:27 AM UTC-4, OMB wrote:
Not sure what they are called, but I'm talking about the little devices low

on the garage door frame that detect when an object such as an animal is

under the door.

One of these got knocked out of alignment when something fell against it.

OMB wrote:
Not sure what they are called, but I'm talking about the little
devices low on the garage door frame that detect when an object such
as an animal is under the door.

One of these got knocked out of alignment when something fell against
it. So now, the garage door won't close unless I hold the button down
while it closes.

I don't know how to align them so they work again. I have not been
particularly observant as to whether there is supposed to be a light
showing on both of them, or only one. Right now, there is a light
only on one side of the door frame.

Anyway, I'd appreciate some advice on how to align these devices. It
is a 16 foot opening, so laying a board across from one to the other
is pretty much out.


I put mine on the ceiling, next to the opener and about one foot apart. Real
easy to get them aligned.

Of course they don't serve their original function, but who cares?

HeyBub wrote:
OMB wrote:
Not sure what they are called, but I'm talking about the
little
devices low on the garage door frame that detect when an
object such
as an animal is under the door.

One of these got knocked out of alignment when something
fell against
it. So now, the garage door won't close unless I hold the
button down
while it closes.

I don't know how to align them so they work again. I
have not been
particularly observant as to whether there is supposed to
be a light
showing on both of them, or only one. Right now, there
is a light
only on one side of the door frame.

Anyway, I'd appreciate some advice on how to align these
devices. It
is a 16 foot opening, so laying a board across from one
to the other
is pretty much out.


I put mine on the ceiling, next to the opener and about
one foot
apart. Real easy to get them aligned.

Of course they don't serve their original function, but
who cares?

thats exactly what i did, works like a champ

On May 28, 1:52*am, "OMB" No-spam@this-address wrote:
Not sure what they are called, but I'm talking about the little devices low
on the garage door frame that detect when an object such as an animal is
under the door.

One of these got knocked out of alignment when something fell against it.
So now, the garage door won't close unless I hold the button down while it
closes.

I don't know how to align them so they work again. *I have not been
particularly observant as to whether there is supposed to be a light showing
on both of them, or only one. *Right now, there is a light only on one side
of the door frame.

Anyway, I'd appreciate some advice on how to align these devices. *It is a
16 foot opening, so laying a board across from one to the other is pretty
much out.

Bob

The "safety lights" / auto-reverse "electric eyes" that I've dealt
with have been very forgiving with respect to alignment.

I just "eye balled" them into alignment until both indicator lights
came back on.
The methods suggested by others will work...eye balling alignment is
quicker & "good enough".

The GDO systems I've worked on have had a red light on each
unit....system is aligned correctly when light on each unit
illuminates.

On May 28, 5:43*am, "David L. Martel" wrote:
Bob,

* *YouTube has many videos of this alignment.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHIytLm0iAU

Dave M.

Seems one of those things that are a response to an uneeded problem.

I knocked mine out of alignment once and realigned it without needing
any "how-to" u-tubes, etc. Only took a few seconds.

Mostly just common sense.

Harry K

On May 28, 7:07*am, "ChairMan" wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
OMB wrote:
Not sure what they are called, but I'm talking about the
little
devices low on the garage door frame that detect when an
object such
as an animal is under the door.

One of these got knocked out of alignment when something
fell against
it. So now, the garage door won't close unless I hold the
button down
while it closes.

I don't know how to align them so they work again. *I
have not been
particularly observant as to whether there is supposed to
be a light
showing on both of them, or only one. *Right now, there
is a light
only on one side of the door frame.

Anyway, I'd appreciate some advice on how to align these
devices. *It
is a 16 foot opening, so laying a board across from one
to the other
is pretty much out.

I put mine on the ceiling, next to the opener and about
one foot
apart. Real easy to get them aligned.

Of course they don't serve their original function, but
who cares?

thats exactly what i did, works like a champ

I suppose you remove all belts, padding and airbags in your cars too.

Harry K

On Tue, 28 May 2013 07:47:33 -0700 (PDT), Harry K
wrote:

I put mine on the ceiling, next to the opener and about
one foot
apart. Real easy to get them aligned.

Of course they don't serve their original function, but
who cares?

thats exactly what i did, works like a champ

I suppose you remove all belts, padding and airbags in your cars too.

Harry K

You now buy a GDO that has NO safety sensors mounted on the wall.

This is built into the power head, senses up / down force or
obstructions in the way.

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On Tue, 28 May 2013 03:52:27 -0500, "OMB" No-spam@this-address
wrote:


Anyway, I'd appreciate some advice on how to align these devices

Tinker with the sensor until the LEDs come on.

On May 28, 3:52*am, "OMB" No-spam@this-address wrote:
Not sure what they are called, but I'm talking about the little devices low
on the garage door frame that detect when an object such as an animal is
under the door.

One of these got knocked out of alignment when something fell against it.
So now, the garage door won't close unless I hold the button down while it
closes.

I don't know how to align them so they work again. *I have not been
particularly observant as to whether there is supposed to be a light showing
on both of them, or only one. *Right now, there is a light only on one side
of the door frame.

Anyway, I'd appreciate some advice on how to align these devices. *It is a
16 foot opening, so laying a board across from one to the other is pretty
much out.

Bob

Just point them directly at each other, this is so simple a 10 year
old could do it in 15 seconds.

Harry,

In light of OMB's question, why do you believe that this is unneeded?

Dave M.

On 05/28/2013 09:24 AM, DD_BobK wrote:
[snip]

The GDO systems I've worked on have had a red light on each
unit....system is aligned correctly when light on each unit
illuminates.


Mine have a red light on one and a green light on the other. If the beam
is broken, the red light flashes and the green light stays on.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us

"Extinguished theologians lie about the cradle of every science, as the
strangled snakes beside that of Hercules." [Huxley]

"Unquestionably Confused" wrote in message .com...
On 5/28/2013 3:52 AM, OMB wrote:
Not sure what they are called, but I'm talking about the little devices
low on the garage door frame that detect when an object such as an
animal is under the door.

One of these got knocked out of alignment when something fell against
it. So now, the garage door won't close unless I hold the button down
while it closes.

I don't know how to align them so they work again. I have not been
particularly observant as to whether there is supposed to be a light
showing on both of them, or only one. Right now, there is a light only
on one side of the door frame.

There should be an AMBER LED light glowing on the sending unit
regardless of alignment.

The GREEN LED light on the receiving unit will only be glowing when the
units are in alignment.


Anyway, I'd appreciate some advice on how to align these devices. It is
a 16 foot opening, so laying a board across from one to the other is
pretty much out.

If you have the AMBER light showing, go to the other unit and just move
it around until the GREEN light comes on. Alignment is NOT that
critical. You do not need to use string, a board, laser level or
micrometers g to adjust this.

Here's a video that will help if you still need it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9TnY9U9rVU

Note that IF the "something" that fell against it happened to be a kid
ramming a bicycle into it, or somebody letting a 12 lb sledgehammer
"bump" it, the unit may be broken and need replacement. You cannot
align a unit that is toast.

I agree WITH puzzled2. You do not need TO use string or a board.

On Tue, 28 May 2013 12:34:18 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

Mine have a red light on one and a green light on the other. If the beam
is broken, the red light flashes and the green light stays on.

Same here in one garage, maybe both...

transmitter & receiver

In ,
Harry K belched:
On May 28, 7:07 am, "ChairMan" wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
OMB wrote:
Not sure what they are called, but I'm talking about the
little
devices low on the garage door frame that detect when an
object such
as an animal is under the door.

One of these got knocked out of alignment when something
fell against
it. So now, the garage door won't close unless I hold the
button down
while it closes.

I don't know how to align them so they work again. I
have not been
particularly observant as to whether there is supposed to
be a light
showing on both of them, or only one. Right now, there
is a light
only on one side of the door frame.

Anyway, I'd appreciate some advice on how to align these
devices. It
is a 16 foot opening, so laying a board across from one
to the other
is pretty much out.

I put mine on the ceiling, next to the opener and about
one foot
apart. Real easy to get them aligned.

Of course they don't serve their original function, but
who cares?

thats exactly what i did, works like a champ

I suppose you remove all belts, padding and airbags in your cars too.

Harry K

how did you know?

On Tue, 28 May 2013 03:52:27 -0500, "OMB" No-spam@this-address
wrote:

Not sure what they are called, but I'm talking about the little devices low
on the garage door frame that detect when an object such as an animal is
under the door.

One of these got knocked out of alignment when something fell against it.
So now, the garage door won't close unless I hold the button down while it
closes.

I don't know how to align them so they work again. I have not been
particularly observant as to whether there is supposed to be a light showing
on both of them, or only one. Right now, there is a light only on one side
of the door frame.

Anyway, I'd appreciate some advice on how to align these devices. It is a
16 foot opening, so laying a board across from one to the other is pretty
much out.

Just point them at each other. You don't have to even be close.

On Tue, 28 May 2013 08:18:51 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:





I put mine on the ceiling, next to the opener and about one foot apart. Real
easy to get them aligned.

Of course they don't serve their original function, but who cares?


Same place mine are. It has been a while and I forget exactly how I
bypassed them. I think I duct taped them together. Most of them are a
PITA, but "its for the children".

On May 28, 7:22*pm, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2013 08:18:51 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:



I put mine on the ceiling, next to the opener and about one foot apart. Real
easy to get them aligned.

Of course they don't serve their original function, but who cares?

Same place mine are. It has been a while and I forget exactly how I
bypassed them. *I think I duct taped them together. Most of them are a
PITA, but "its for the children".

I've had mine for over 20 years with the sensors properly installed.
Instances of the door not closing as I wanted it? None.

Harry K

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2013 08:18:51 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:





I put mine on the ceiling, next to the opener and about one foot apart. Real
easy to get them aligned.

Of course they don't serve their original function, but who cares?


Same place mine are. It has been a while and I forget exactly how I
bypassed them. I think I duct taped them together. Most of them are a
PITA, but "its for the children".

Hi,
When my kids were small I had them maintained. I have an IR sensor card
which made the alignment of beam a snap but kids all grown up and left
their nest. I permanently bypassed them.

Harry K wrote:
On May 28, 7:22 pm, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2013 08:18:51 -0500, "HeyBub"

wrote:



I put mine on the ceiling, next to the opener and about
one foot
apart. Real easy to get them aligned.

Of course they don't serve their original function, but
who cares?

Same place mine are. It has been a while and I forget
exactly how I
bypassed them. I think I duct taped them together. Most
of them are a
PITA, but "its for the children".

I've had mine for over 20 years with the sensors properly
installed.
Instances of the door not closing as I wanted it? None.

Harry K

where would you like us to send you your gold star?

On 5/28/2013 10:22 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2013 08:18:51 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:





I put mine on the ceiling, next to the opener and about one foot apart. Real
easy to get them aligned.

Of course they don't serve their original function, but who cares?


Same place mine are. It has been a while and I forget exactly how I
bypassed them. I think I duct taped them together. Most of them are a
PITA, but "its for the children".


The plaintiff's attorney will love your decision to duct tape them together.
Your insurance company, not so much.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/...or-in-waldorf/

On Wed, 29 May 2013 04:49:18 -0400, Fred wrote:




Same place mine are. It has been a while and I forget exactly how I
bypassed them. I think I duct taped them together. Most of them are a
PITA, but "its for the children".


The plaintiff's attorney will love your decision to duct tape them together.
Your insurance company, not so much.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/...or-in-waldorf/

If my youngest grandchild get hit by the door, they should kick him
out of high school. It will also stop if it hits something. I tempt
fate most every time I leave the garage also. I push the button on the
inside then step out as the door closes. That is a no-no.

On May 29, 2:54*am, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Wed, 29 May 2013 04:49:18 -0400, Fred wrote:

Same place mine are. It has been a while and I forget exactly how I
bypassed them. *I think I duct taped them together. Most of them are a
PITA, but "its for the children".

The plaintiff's attorney will love your decision to duct tape them together.
Your insurance company, not so much.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/...rushed-to-deat...

If my youngest grandchild get hit by the door, they should kick him
out of high school. * It will also stop if it hits something. *I tempt
fate most every time I leave the garage also. I push the button on the
inside then step out as the door closes. *That is a no-no.

Odd, I punch it _as_ I am exiting. Why do you wait until it starts
down?
Care to give a cite where that action is a "no no"?

Harry K

On Wed, 29 May 2013 07:55:08 -0700 (PDT), Harry K
wrote:




If my youngest grandchild get hit by the door, they should kick him
out of high school. * It will also stop if it hits something. *I tempt
fate most every time I leave the garage also. I push the button on the
inside then step out as the door closes. *That is a no-no.

Odd, I punch it _as_ I am exiting. Why do you wait until it starts
down?

My arm is still inside as I exit. When I do that at work though, I
have 20 feet to go from button to door.


Care to give a cite where that action is a "no no"?

Harry K

Owners manual.

On May 29, 3:12*pm, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Wed, 29 May 2013 07:55:08 -0700 (PDT), Harry K
wrote:



If my youngest grandchild get hit by the door, they should kick him
out of high school. * It will also stop if it hits something. *I tempt
fate most every time I leave the garage also. I push the button on the
inside then step out as the door closes. *That is a no-no.

Odd, I punch it _as_ I am exiting. *Why do you wait until it starts
down?

My arm is still inside as I exit. *When I do that at work though, I
have 20 feet to go from button to door.

Care to give a cite where that action is a "no no"?

Harry K

Owners manual.

Quote? My owners manual is long gone years ago.

Harry K

On Wed, 29 May 2013 21:23:34 -0700 (PDT), Harry K
wrote:




My arm is still inside as I exit. *When I do that at work though, I
have 20 feet to go from button to door.

Care to give a cite where that action is a "no no"?

Harry K

Owners manual.

Quote? My owners manual is long gone years ago.

Harry K

In the manual twice actually
http://www.chamberlain.com/CatalogRe...s/114A4242.pdf

far better to leave the sensors functional , if a neighbor kid happens
to get hurt or killed

A touchpad outside takes care of shutting the ndoor and is super
convenient, plus they are wireless

On May 30, 3:02*am, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Wed, 29 May 2013 21:23:34 -0700 (PDT), Harry K
wrote:



My arm is still inside as I exit. *When I do that at work though, I
have 20 feet to go from button to door.

Care to give a cite where that action is a "no no"?

Harry K

Owners manual.

Quote? My owners manual is long gone years ago.

Harry K

In the manual twice actuallyhttp://www.chamberlain.com/CatalogResourcesV3/en-us/shared/files/tucm...

HK-

Besides "punch & run" is a practice learned and perfected many years
ago by many of us.
In some installations, I have to "punch, run & hop" to avoid the
safety lights.
Much less safe for me than "punch & run".

I mount the manual controls high enough to only allow adults to
activate them.

Mounting the manual

On May 30, 3:02*am, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Wed, 29 May 2013 21:23:34 -0700 (PDT), Harry K
wrote:



My arm is still inside as I exit. *When I do that at work though, I
have 20 feet to go from button to door.

Care to give a cite where that action is a "no no"?

Harry K

Owners manual.

Quote? My owners manual is long gone years ago.

Harry K

In the manual twice actuallyhttp://www.chamberlain.com/CatalogResourcesV3/en-us/shared/files/tucm...

No good, I'm on dialup and downloading hat would take forever.

So briefly describe what the danger is of punching the button as you
exit. I do it all the time also.

Harry K

On Thu, 30 May 2013 08:59:26 -0700 (PDT), Harry K
wrote:



In the manual twice actuallyhttp://www.chamberlain.com/CatalogResourcesV3/en-us/shared/files/tucm...

No good, I'm on dialup and downloading hat would take forever.

So briefly describe what the danger is of punching the button as you
exit. I do it all the time also.

Harry K

So do I. But just like you should not use a hair dryer outside in the
pool, you should not hit the button and walk under the closing door.

On Thu, 30 May 2013 06:14:40 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:

far better to leave the sensors functional , if a neighbor kid happens
to get hurt or killed

I'd sue the parents for letting a kid near my garage. Sorry, we have
no neighbor kids under 14 anyway.


A touchpad outside takes care of shutting the ndoor and is super
convenient, plus they are wireless

So is the one inside. I have a keypad outside, but you have to hit a
code instead of one button. Both are out of reach for little kids.

far better to leave the sensors functional , if a neighbor kid happens
to get hurt or killed

I'd sue the parents for letting a kid near my garage. *Sorry, we have
no neighbor kids under 14 anyway.


not only can a child die, but the law suits, where homeowners
insurance will likely not cover you, if you intentially disabled the
safety system, but you could lose all your assets and future earnings,
let alone your reputation in your community.....

its far easier and better to use the designed in safety system

bob haller wrote:

far better to leave the sensors functional , if a neighbor kid happens
to get hurt or killed

I'd sue the parents for letting a kid near my garage. Sorry, we have
no neighbor kids under 14 anyway.


not only can a child die, but the law suits, where homeowners
insurance will likely not cover you, if you intentially disabled the
safety system, but you could lose all your assets and future earnings,
let alone your reputation in your community.....

its far easier and better to use the designed in safety system

My old door has no lights. Don't all have two safety modes. I'm not going
to stick my foot under it, but I know it works on small objects. It will
stop and reverse.

Greg

On May 30, 7:00*pm, bob haller wrote:
far better to leave the sensors functional , if a neighbor kid happens
to get hurt or killed

I'd sue the parents for letting a kid near my garage. *Sorry, we have
no neighbor kids under 14 anyway.

not only can a child die, but the law suits, where homeowners
insurance will likely not cover you, if you intentially disabled the
safety system, but you could lose all your assets and future earnings,
let alone your reputation in your community.....

its far easier and better to use the designed in safety system

Especially since there is no reason not to despite attempts by the
irresponsible to drea up reasons.

Harry K

On May 30, 1:57*pm, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Thu, 30 May 2013 08:59:26 -0700 (PDT), Harry K
wrote:



In the manual twice actuallyhttp://www.chamberlain.com/CatalogResourcesV3/en-us/shared/files/tucm...

No good, I'm on dialup and downloading hat would take forever.

So briefly describe what the danger is of punching the button as you
exit. *I do it all the time also.

Harry K

So do I. *But just like you should not use a hair dryer outside in the
pool, you should not hit the button and walk under the closing door.

You still haven't given a reason why. Apparently you have read that
source you posted, cut and paste would answer the question.

So again. What danger is there in hitting the button on your way out?

Harry K

On Thu, 30 May 2013 21:48:34 -0700 (PDT), Harry K
wrote:




So do I. *But just like you should not use a hair dryer outside in the
pool, you should not hit the button and walk under the closing door.

You still haven't given a reason why. Apparently you have read that
source you posted, cut and paste would answer the question.

So again. What danger is there in hitting the button on your way out?

Harry K

I gave you a link. It did not allow me to copy the section.

Pretty obvious what the danger is. Door coming down, you trip and fall
and it hits you.

That is the stuff that keeps lawyers busy writing manuals.

On 5/30/2013 10:47 PM, gregz wrote:

My old door has no lights. Don't all have two safety modes. I'm not going
to stick my foot under it, but I know it works on small objects. It will
stop and reverse.


Quite true, IF the down/up pressure is properly adjusted. Properly
adjusted, it would be difficult to injure anyone with a closing door
unless, perhaps, they were laying on their back with the their neck
exposed to the closing door, or maybe had a knife pointed downward so
that the closing door would drive it home.

Then again, I can see where that closing door - regardless of the
downward pressure could possible scuff up the tops of your shoes.
Perhaps that's the real reason the Consumer Products Safety Commission
is so involved in this... A government commission seeking to continue
its existence by doing something, anything to justify themselves.

Look at the Highway Safety folks. They have us wearing seatbelts and
have reduced DUI's tremendously. Great! Now, to justify their
continued existence, they think it would be great to ban drivers from
even sniffing a cork before getting behind the wheel. Busy work!

If successful, the next thing will be arresting folks for THINKING about
having a drink if they are even talking about driving somewhereg

My mother and father and long dead; I'm still alive and reasonably
successful in life. I don't need a Nanny!