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Hi All,

I am in the planning phase of replacing my back lawn with
cinder block garden boxes and pavers and/or rocks.

http://voices.yahoo.com/cinder-block...76.html?cat=30

Problem: we have *a lot*, about 30 a day you can't feel,
earthquakes around these parts (North Western Nevada).
I would hate to fill one of these things with dirt and
have a larger shaker come through and dump all my dirt
on my rocks/pavers.

How to I earthquake proof a cinder block raised garden
box?

Many thanks,
-T
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On May 10, 11:56*pm, Todd wrote:
Hi All,

I am in the planning phase of replacing my back lawn with
cinder block garden boxes and pavers and/or rocks.

http://voices.yahoo.com/cinder-block...-garden-114828...

Problem: *we have *a lot*, about 30 a day you can't feel,
earthquakes around these parts (North Western Nevada).
I would hate to fill one of these things with dirt and
have a larger shaker come through and dump all my dirt
on my rocks/pavers.

How to I earthquake proof a cinder block raised garden
box?

Many thanks,
-T


If I was living someplace where there were 30 earthquakes a
day, I'd forget about planters. I would move or get a change in
medication.
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On Fri, 10 May 2013 20:56:39 -0700, Todd wrote:

Hi All,

I am in the planning phase of replacing my back lawn with
cinder block garden boxes and pavers and/or rocks.

http://voices.yahoo.com/cinder-block...76.html?cat=30

Problem: we have *a lot*, about 30 a day you can't feel,
earthquakes around these parts (North Western Nevada).
I would hate to fill one of these things with dirt and
have a larger shaker come through and dump all my dirt
on my rocks/pavers.

How to I earthquake proof a cinder block raised garden
box?

Many thanks,
-T


Well, if a 'quake" causes loss of dirt in a raised bed, I would think
you would have bigger problems to deal with. Broken things in the
house, cracked drywall, stucco, siding, etc.

Worry about the planter damage when, if, it ever happens.

YMMV.
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On May 11, 9:00*am, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 10 May 2013 20:56:39 -0700, Todd wrote:
Hi All,


I am in the planning phase of replacing my back lawn with
cinder block garden boxes and pavers and/or rocks.


http://voices.yahoo.com/cinder-block...-garden-114828...


Problem: *we have *a lot*, about 30 a day you can't feel,
earthquakes around these parts (North Western Nevada).
I would hate to fill one of these things with dirt and
have a larger shaker come through and dump all my dirt
on my rocks/pavers.


How to I earthquake proof a cinder block raised garden
box?


Many thanks,
-T


Well, if a 'quake" *causes loss of dirt in a raised bed, I would think
you would have bigger problems to deal with. Broken things in the
house, cracked drywall, stucco, siding, etc.

Worry about the planter damage when, if, it ever happens.

YMMV.


+1

OP-

How tall are you going ?
what size blocks are you using? (I would suggest 8" high x 8" wide)
What are you back filling with?

Low pile of earth seldom fail in earthquakes.

cheers
Bob


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If I was living someplace where there were 30 earthquakes a
day, I'd forget about planters. I would move or get a change in
medication.


The OP's area gets frequent tremors - action from Idaho and
California. Not worth building an expensive raised planter bed.

I think the OP has a worry thing, not needed.

--
Oren - east coastal region of Las Vegas


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On 05/11/2013 12:24 PM, DD_BobK wrote:
On May 11, 9:00 am, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 10 May 2013 20:56:39 -0700, Todd wrote:
Hi All,


I am in the planning phase of replacing my back lawn with
cinder block garden boxes and pavers and/or rocks.


http://voices.yahoo.com/cinder-block...-garden-114828...


Problem: we have *a lot*, about 30 a day you can't feel,
earthquakes around these parts (North Western Nevada).
I would hate to fill one of these things with dirt and
have a larger shaker come through and dump all my dirt
on my rocks/pavers.


How to I earthquake proof a cinder block raised garden
box?


Many thanks,
-T


Well, if a 'quake" causes loss of dirt in a raised bed, I would think
you would have bigger problems to deal with. Broken things in the
house, cracked drywall, stucco, siding, etc.

Worry about the planter damage when, if, it ever happens.

YMMV.


+1

OP-

How tall are you going ?
what size blocks are you using? (I would suggest 8" high x 8" wide)
What are you back filling with?

Low pile of earth seldom fail in earthquakes.

cheers
Bob



Thank you!

I was looking at the 8x8x16. Pile them 3 high for 2 feet height.
I will be filling it with organic dirt and compost from

http://www.fullcirclecompost.com/

Our typical earthquake is very small. A good detector is to
pull a TV rabbit ear all the way out and make the tip about 1/4"
from the wall. You will hear it tapping off and on all night long.

-T
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Our typical earthquake is very small. A good detector is to
pull a TV rabbit ear all the way out and make the tip about 1/4"
from the wall. You will hear it tapping off and on all night long.


That would scare the crap out of me. Sounds like it keeps you up all
night too (-:

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On 05/11/2013 06:09 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 11 May 2013 18:00:26 -0700, Todd wrote:



Our typical earthquake is very small. A good detector is to
pull a TV rabbit ear all the way out and make the tip about 1/4"
from the wall. You will hear it tapping off and on all night long.


That would scare the crap out of me. Sounds like it keeps you up all
night too (-:


First it scares you. Then it starts to annoy, like a dripping
faucet. Then the "male" part of the "we" in the family has to
get up and go move the antenna.
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On May 11, 6:00*pm, Todd wrote:
On 05/11/2013 12:24 PM, DD_BobK wrote:









On May 11, 9:00 am, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 10 May 2013 20:56:39 -0700, Todd wrote:
Hi All,


I am in the planning phase of replacing my back lawn with
cinder block garden boxes and pavers and/or rocks.


http://voices.yahoo.com/cinder-block...-garden-114828....


Problem: *we have *a lot*, about 30 a day you can't feel,
earthquakes around these parts (North Western Nevada).
I would hate to fill one of these things with dirt and
have a larger shaker come through and dump all my dirt
on my rocks/pavers.


How to I earthquake proof a cinder block raised garden
box?


Many thanks,
-T


Well, if a 'quake" *causes loss of dirt in a raised bed, I would think
you would have bigger problems to deal with. Broken things in the
house, cracked drywall, stucco, siding, etc.


Worry about the planter damage when, if, it ever happens.


YMMV.


+1


OP-


How tall are you going ?
what size blocks are you using? *(I would suggest 8" high x 8" wide)
What are *you back filling with?


Low pile of earth seldom fail in earthquakes.


cheers
Bob


Thank you!

I was looking at the 8x8x16. *Pile them 3 high for 2 feet height.
I will be filling it with organic dirt and compost from

* * * *http://www.fullcirclecompost.com/

Our typical earthquake is very small. *A good detector is to
pull a TV rabbit ear all the way out and make the tip about 1/4"
from the wall. *You will hear it tapping off and on all night long.

-T


Stacked only 3 units high and back filled with what you use..... I
seriously doubt there is any possibility of failure.

If you're still worried, assemble your raised beds with running bond &
interlocking corners.
Buy some sch 80 1/2" PVC pipe and drive a PVC stake into every other
or every third block and into the ground about 6", back fill with
native soil or your mix.

If you want to do some experimentation... stack some blocks on a piece
of 3/4" plywood, start with 3 units high. Check to see how high you
have to lift one edge of the plywood to get the stack to begin to
topple. Increase the stack height.

The angle you need to start the stack to topple gives an indication of
the stability.... you will see that a 3 unit stack is very stable. 5
or 6 unit stack much less, a 8 or 9 unit stack is scary.

cheers
Bob
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On 05/12/2013 12:43 AM, DD_BobK wrote:
On May 11, 6:00 pm, Todd wrote:
On 05/11/2013 12:24 PM, DD_BobK wrote:









On May 11, 9:00 am, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 10 May 2013 20:56:39 -0700, Todd wrote:
Hi All,


I am in the planning phase of replacing my back lawn with
cinder block garden boxes and pavers and/or rocks.


http://voices.yahoo.com/cinder-block...-garden-114828...


Problem: we have *a lot*, about 30 a day you can't feel,
earthquakes around these parts (North Western Nevada).
I would hate to fill one of these things with dirt and
have a larger shaker come through and dump all my dirt
on my rocks/pavers.


How to I earthquake proof a cinder block raised garden
box?


Many thanks,
-T


Well, if a 'quake" causes loss of dirt in a raised bed, I would think
you would have bigger problems to deal with. Broken things in the
house, cracked drywall, stucco, siding, etc.


Worry about the planter damage when, if, it ever happens.


YMMV.


+1


OP-


How tall are you going ?
what size blocks are you using? (I would suggest 8" high x 8" wide)
What are you back filling with?


Low pile of earth seldom fail in earthquakes.


cheers
Bob


Thank you!

I was looking at the 8x8x16. Pile them 3 high for 2 feet height.
I will be filling it with organic dirt and compost from

http://www.fullcirclecompost.com/

Our typical earthquake is very small. A good detector is to
pull a TV rabbit ear all the way out and make the tip about 1/4"
from the wall. You will hear it tapping off and on all night long.

-T


Stacked only 3 units high and back filled with what you use..... I
seriously doubt there is any possibility of failure.

If you're still worried, assemble your raised beds with running bond &
interlocking corners.
Buy some sch 80 1/2" PVC pipe and drive a PVC stake into every other
or every third block and into the ground about 6", back fill with
native soil or your mix.

If you want to do some experimentation... stack some blocks on a piece
of 3/4" plywood, start with 3 units high. Check to see how high you
have to lift one edge of the plywood to get the stack to begin to
topple. Increase the stack height.

The angle you need to start the stack to topple gives an indication of
the stability.... you will see that a 3 unit stack is very stable. 5
or 6 unit stack much less, a 8 or 9 unit stack is scary.

cheers
Bob


Thank you!


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On May 12, 6:00*pm, Todd wrote:
On 05/12/2013 12:43 AM, DD_BobK wrote:









On May 11, 6:00 pm, Todd wrote:
On 05/11/2013 12:24 PM, DD_BobK wrote:


On May 11, 9:00 am, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 10 May 2013 20:56:39 -0700, Todd wrote:
Hi All,


I am in the planning phase of replacing my back lawn with
cinder block garden boxes and pavers and/or rocks.


http://voices.yahoo.com/cinder-block...-garden-114828...


Problem: *we have *a lot*, about 30 a day you can't feel,
earthquakes around these parts (North Western Nevada).
I would hate to fill one of these things with dirt and
have a larger shaker come through and dump all my dirt
on my rocks/pavers.


How to I earthquake proof a cinder block raised garden
box?


Many thanks,
-T


Well, if a 'quake" *causes loss of dirt in a raised bed, I would think
you would have bigger problems to deal with. Broken things in the
house, cracked drywall, stucco, siding, etc.


Worry about the planter damage when, if, it ever happens.


YMMV.


+1


OP-


How tall are you going ?
what size blocks are you using? *(I would suggest 8" high x 8" wide)
What are *you back filling with?


Low pile of earth seldom fail in earthquakes.


cheers
Bob


Thank you!


I was looking at the 8x8x16. *Pile them 3 high for 2 feet height.
I will be filling it with organic dirt and compost from


* * * *http://www.fullcirclecompost.com/


Our typical earthquake is very small. *A good detector is to
pull a TV rabbit ear all the way out and make the tip about 1/4"
from the wall. *You will hear it tapping off and on all night long.


-T


Stacked only 3 units high and back filled with what you use..... I
seriously doubt there is any possibility of failure.


If you're still worried, assemble your raised beds with running bond &
interlocking corners.
Buy some sch 80 1/2" PVC pipe and drive a PVC stake into every other
or every third block and into the ground about 6", *back fill with
native soil or your mix.


If you want to do some experimentation... stack some blocks on a piece
of 3/4" plywood, start with 3 units high. Check to see how high you
have to lift one edge of the plywood to get the stack to begin to
topple. * Increase the stack height.


The angle you need to start the stack to topple gives an indication of
the stability.... you will see that a 3 unit stack is very stable. *5
or 6 unit stack much less, a 8 or 9 unit stack is scary.


cheers
Bob


Thank you!


Let me know how it works out...
cheers
Bob
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