An old friend and customer of me and my brother is dead along with his
elderly mother in a murder suicide. Darn it! It's not the first time
an event like that has happened and I always wish I'd known something
was so wrong with a friend's life for an intervention but you can never
really know what's going on beneath the surface in someone's life. :-(

TDD

On 12/5/2012 6:44 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
An old friend and customer of me and my brother is dead along with his
elderly mother in a murder suicide. Darn it! It's not the first time
an event like that has happened and I always wish I'd known something
was so wrong with a friend's life for an intervention but you can never
really know what's going on beneath the surface in someone's life. :-(

TDD

Gee....If only you had been there.

On 12/05/2012 07:44 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
An old friend and customer of me and my brother is dead along with his
elderly mother in a murder suicide. Darn it! It's not the first time
an event like that has happened and I always wish I'd known something
was so wrong with a friend's life for an intervention but you can never
really know what's going on beneath the surface in someone's life. :-(

TDD

Yah, that is quite common. Taking care of an elderly parent is
torture...especially if they are in very poor health.

On 12/5/2012 6:56 PM, gonlah wrote:
On 12/5/2012 6:44 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
An old friend and customer of me and my brother is dead along with his
elderly mother in a murder suicide. Darn it! It's not the first time
an event like that has happened and I always wish I'd known something
was so wrong with a friend's life for an intervention but you can never
really know what's going on beneath the surface in someone's life. :-(

TDD

Gee....If only you had been there.

I lost another friend, a Vietnam veteran who became suicidal after the
death of his mother who kept him grounded plus the VA changed his meds.
He had always chased his meds with beer and the mixture with the new
meds knocked him on his butt which had him finding himself out cold in
his car sitting in the middle of an intersection. The DUI arrest was a
severe blow that sent him deeper into depression. Another friend kept
him from his first suicide attempt but my friend closed the garage and
left the car running. We didn't know if he did it on purpose or if he'd
simply passed out because of the alcohol and meds mix and became
trapped. O_o

TDD

Man, that's total tragic. Sorry to hear that.

One of the guys in my last congregation
committed suicide. We all knew he was
feeling poorly, but no one guessed.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...
An old friend and customer of me and my brother is dead along with his
elderly mother in a murder suicide. Darn it! It's not the first time
an event like that has happened and I always wish I'd known something
was so wrong with a friend's life for an intervention but you can never
really know what's going on beneath the surface in someone's life. :-(

TDD

On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 18:44:39 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

An old friend and customer of me and my brother is dead along with his
elderly mother in a murder suicide. Darn it! It's not the first time
an event like that has happened and I always wish I'd known something
was so wrong with a friend's life for an intervention but you can never
really know what's going on beneath the surface in someone's life. :-(

TDD

No you can't. Sorry this happened to someone you knew. Most people
put up a front that's better then they really are.

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...
An old friend and customer of me and my brother is dead along with his
elderly mother in a murder suicide. Darn it! It's not the first time
an event like that has happened and I always wish I'd known something was
so wrong with a friend's life for an intervention but you can never really
know what's going on beneath the surface in someone's life. :-(

TDD

Sorry to hear that Duf.

On 12/6/2012 1:20 AM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 18:44:39 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

An old friend and customer of me and my brother is dead along with his
elderly mother in a murder suicide. Darn it! It's not the first time
an event like that has happened and I always wish I'd known something
was so wrong with a friend's life for an intervention but you can never
really know what's going on beneath the surface in someone's life. :-(

TDD

No you can't. Sorry this happened to someone you knew. Most people
put up a front that's better then they really are.


Heck, I have to since I live in constant pain. On my worst days I stay
away from people so I don't scream obscenities at them. I tell folks if
they hear me grunting I'm just practicing my Karate, my deceased friend
understood that one. Everyone I work with is disabled in one way or
another and living with chronic pain. One friend, LM who owns a metal
working shop lost a kidney to cancer and recently had roto-rooter work
done on his tailpipe so he had a real problem sitting down for a while
but luckily none of the polyps were cancerous. I had a long talk with
him about the severe depression chronic pain causes and how to fight it.
I told him to get mad but direct his anger at the depression and not
other people. In your mind, let it know it's not going to beat you
and you will fight it off and you will win. I spoke with him a few days
ago and he told me it's working, he even sounded better. I'm convinced
that severe depression kills more people than anyone realizes and folks
should learn how to defeat it. O_o

TDD

On 12/5/2012 11:12 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Man, that's total tragic. Sorry to hear that.

One of the guys in my last congregation
committed suicide. We all knew he was
feeling poorly, but no one guessed.


An 85-year-old couple, having been married almost 60 years, died in a
car crash. They had been in good health the last 10 years, mainly due to
the wife's interest in health food and exercise.

When they reached the Pearly Gates, St. Peter took them to their
mansion, which was decked out with a beautiful kitchen and master bath
suite and Jacuzzi.

As they "oohed and aahed," the old man asked Peter how much all this was
going to cost.

"It's free," Peter replied, "this is Heaven."

Next they went out back to survey the championship golf course that the
home backed up to. They would have golfing privileges every day, and
each week the course changed to a new one, representing the great golf
courses on Earth. The old man asked, "What are the green fees?"

Peter's reply, "This is Heaven, you play for free."

Next they went to the club house and saw the lavish buffet lunch with
the cuisines of the world laid out.

"How much to eat?" asked the old man. "Don't you understand yet? This is
Heaven, it's free!" Peter replied with some exasperation.

"Well, where are the low-fat and low-cholesterol tables?" the old man
asked timidly.

Peter lectured, "That's the best part -- you can eat as much as you like
of whatever you like, and you never get fat or sick. This is Heaven."

With that the old man went into a fit of anger, throwing down his hat
and stomping on it, shrieking wildly.

Peter and his wife both tried to calm him down, asking him what was wrong.

The old man looked at his wife and said, "This is all your fault. If it
weren't for your bran muffins, I could have been here 10 years ago!"

I'm guessing you're right. Problem is, depressed
people don't see that there is anything they can do.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...

I'm convinced that severe depression kills
more people than anyone realizes and folks
should learn how to defeat it. O_o

TDD

On 12/6/2012 4:32 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 12/6/2012 1:20 AM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 18:44:39 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

An old friend and customer of me and my brother is dead along with his
elderly mother in a murder suicide. Darn it! It's not the first time
an event like that has happened and I always wish I'd known something
was so wrong with a friend's life for an intervention but you can never
really know what's going on beneath the surface in someone's life. :-(

TDD

No you can't. Sorry this happened to someone you knew. Most people
put up a front that's better then they really are.


Heck, I have to since I live in constant pain. On my worst days I stay
away from people so I don't scream obscenities at them. I tell folks if
they hear me grunting I'm just practicing my Karate, my deceased friend
understood that one. Everyone I work with is disabled in one way or
another and living with chronic pain. One friend, LM who owns a metal
working shop lost a kidney to cancer and recently had roto-rooter work
done on his tailpipe so he had a real problem sitting down for a while
but luckily none of the polyps were cancerous. I had a long talk with
him about the severe depression chronic pain causes and how to fight it.
I told him to get mad but direct his anger at the depression and not
other people. In your mind, let it know it's not going to beat you
and you will fight it off and you will win. I spoke with him a few days
ago and he told me it's working, he even sounded better. I'm convinced
that severe depression kills more people than anyone realizes and folks
should learn how to defeat it. O_o

TDD

Unfortunate occurrence but all part of getting older. There is help
available for everything. You have to often seek it out yourself or
have a family member or interested party find it for you.

On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 03:32:08 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 12/6/2012 1:20 AM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 18:44:39 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

An old friend and customer of me and my brother is dead along with his
elderly mother in a murder suicide. Darn it! It's not the first time
an event like that has happened and I always wish I'd known something
was so wrong with a friend's life for an intervention but you can never
really know what's going on beneath the surface in someone's life. :-(

TDD

No you can't. Sorry this happened to someone you knew. Most people
put up a front that's better then they really are.


Heck, I have to since I live in constant pain. On my worst days I stay
away from people so I don't scream obscenities at them. I tell folks if
they hear me grunting I'm just practicing my Karate, my deceased friend
understood that one. Everyone I work with is disabled in one way or
another and living with chronic pain. One friend, LM who owns a metal
working shop lost a kidney to cancer and recently had roto-rooter work
done on his tailpipe so he had a real problem sitting down for a while
but luckily none of the polyps were cancerous. I had a long talk with
him about the severe depression chronic pain causes and how to fight it.
I told him to get mad but direct his anger at the depression and not
other people. In your mind, let it know it's not going to beat you
and you will fight it off and you will win. I spoke with him a few days
ago and he told me it's working, he even sounded better. I'm convinced
that severe depression kills more people than anyone realizes and folks
should learn how to defeat it. O_o

TDD


If you are living in chronic pain you have my sympathies. Nothing is
more detrimental to enjoying life then not feeling well day in and day
out.