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Back in the late 90's it appeared that the daily newspaper was a dying
thing. People could go online and read the news on multiple sites. This was true, and I found myself going in that direction. There were web sites that had the same text and photos as the paper. Some even had the cartoons. For awhile, I continued to get the newspaper as well as reading it online. Somewhere around 2003, I decided that it did not make sense to pay for the newspaper, which I was not reading very often anymore. I cancelled it. For a few years I would read the news online, and felt that was all I needed. However, in the last few years I've been noticing more and more that the news media websites have become so cluttered with useless garbage and ads that I was spending hours trying to get the latest news, and often left their sites feeling aggravated. These sites are no longer like a newspaper. They are a massive clutter of trash, with bits and pieces of the news scattered in between. How many damn videos are needed to address a news story anyhow? And why all the flash content that takes quite awhile to load, occasionally causes my browser to crash, and becomes very annoying more often than now, when things are bouncing around on the page and popups and other useless jink, not to mention that the pages are at least half advertising, and clicking on something that appears to be news, is really ads. Then too, how many goddamn facebook and twitter icons do they really need on each page. I've had it with the internet media sites. I just returned to getting my daily newspaper, and am very pleased. I can sit back and relax while reading the news, weather and sports, and even enjoy a few cartoons, without being bombarded with trash and other annoyances. Sure the paper costs a few bucks each week, but I have to take into consideration that electricity to run the computer costs money too, not to mention having to constantly upgrade the computer and install new browsers and software just to keep up with all this useless garbage they flood their sites with. After all, time is money too, and even if the upgrades dont cost anything, it takes time to keep installing the software and learning to use it. Yet, in the end, who needs it. A newspaper is pretty simple. It's a text news story, and some photos to back up the text. Then there's some advetising, and that's it. Whatever happened to the simple websites that looked like a newspaper? Then again, it dont stop there. The entire internet has become a massive pile of garbage. Websites that used to offer content, now are filled with trash. The newsgroups are dying fast, which means soon, we will only have that repulsive facebook and twitter to say what we want to say, and only a huge mass of garbage for websites. Considering what I've spent for computers, software, electricity to run them, and many many hours of my time, the cost of a newspaper is cheap in comparison. And better yet, I can sit back and read the newspaper without it poping up and telling me my browser is outdated and I need to install another version of adobe flash, or finding bad page rendering, where the text is on top of a photo, etc..... Maybe the old ways were better....... |
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 05:53:27 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
I've read the paper version all of my life and prefer it. I read the paper before my neighbor wakes up :-\ No wait. Actually, he tosses the daily over the fence everyday. Cost is nothing. I just have more paper to recycle. |
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 05:53:27 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 04:34:34 -0600, wrote: Considering what I've spent for computers, software, electricity to run them, and many many hours of my time, the cost of a newspaper is cheap in comparison. And better yet, I can sit back and read the newspaper without it poping up and telling me my browser is outdated and I need to install another version of adobe flash, or finding bad page rendering, where the text is on top of a photo, etc..... Maybe the old ways were better....... And you don't need a Wi-Fi connection in the bathroom to read it. OTOH, I carry my cell phone every day to work. Carrying a newspaper around looks rather odd. Oh, and no Wi-Fi, just 4G. ;-) I considered stopping it after the last price increase, but after complaining they made me a deal. I've read the paper version all of my life and prefer it. I gave up on local rags long ago. Most refused to stop littering my driveway. |
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:08:06 -0500, Wes Groleau
wrote: On 11-22-2012 14:02, z wrote: I gave up on local rags long ago. Most refused to stop littering my driveway. I warned them of a one-dollar handling fee. They didn't stop. I sent them an invoice. They didn't stop. I sent them an invoice with interest on the previous balance and typical dunning language. They stopped. Yep, unpaid circulation is still circulation. They can't afford to admit how bad their business really is. Their fault. |
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 06:55:49 -0600, Doug
wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 04:34:34 -0600, wrote: Back in the late 90's it appeared that the daily newspaper was a dying thing. People could go online and read the news on multiple sites. Maybe the old ways were better....... If you only use the computer to read news I might at least consider your opinion, otherwise not. I do several things on mine and while it does require upkeep on occasion and can be a pain (sounds like my wife too), I prefer to read my news on the net. I only get a Sunday newspaper because of my wife but she is starting to read on the net too. I use my computer for other stuff besides the news, but I'm only speaking of using the internet, not the computer itself. I only use the internet to do email and occasionally look up a subject, for example, when I'm fixing my car and want to look up how to do the repair, or what type of fluid goes in the gear case, etc. Occasionally there may be another subject. Other than that, I read a few newsgroups, and bring up the local weather radar maps. That's it. Back in the 90's I had fun on the internet. It's not fun anymore. It's downright aggravating most of the time, trying to find some useful content in a pile of rubbish. Even trying to do some research on a car repair or something like that is a huge struggle to find sites that actually have information, reather than those fake sites that try to lure a person there and are filled with nothing but ads, or want me to pay for the info, or register to read it. I refuse to pay, and refuse to register to read a damn article. Af for social interaction with others, it seems that it's all about facebook these days, and that is nothing but a bunch of immature punks, while FB itself is monitoring everything we do and say. I wouldn't use FB even if they offerred to pay me for it. As for upgrading, my oldest computer with Windows98 and my newest one with XP, both do everything else (non-internet) perfectly. I can watch movies, play music, edit photos, do accounting, type letters, and much more. It's just the internet stuff that keeps demanding upgrades. Once usenet is dead, which wont be long, I'll probably cancel my internet service. I can get email and weather radar maps on my cellphone, and in the rare occasion that I need repair info for my car, I can go to a WIFI spot with my laptop. The internet overall is a dying thing except that horrid facebook. |
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 21:09:32 -0600, Doug
wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:45:16 -0600, wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 06:55:49 -0600, Doug wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 04:34:34 -0600, wrote: Back in the late 90's it appeared that the daily newspaper was a dying thing. People could go online and read the news on multiple sites. Maybe the old ways were better....... If you only use the computer to read news I might at least consider your opinion, otherwise not. I do several things on mine and while it does require upkeep on occasion and can be a pain (sounds like my wife too), I prefer to read my news on the net. I only get a Sunday newspaper because of my wife but she is starting to read on the net too. I use my computer for other stuff besides the news, but I'm only speaking of using the internet, not the computer itself. I only use the internet to do email and occasionally look up a subject, for example, when I'm fixing my car and want to look up how to do the repair, or what type of fluid goes in the gear case, etc. Occasionally there may be another subject. Other than that, I read a few newsgroups, and bring up the local weather radar maps. That's it. Back in the 90's I had fun on the internet. It's not fun anymore. It's downright aggravating most of the time, trying to find some useful content in a pile of rubbish. Even trying to do some research on a car repair or something like that is a huge struggle to find sites that actually have information, reather than those fake sites that try to lure a person there and are filled with nothing but ads, or want me to pay for the info, or register to read it. I refuse to pay, and refuse to register to read a damn article. Af for social interaction with others, it seems that it's all about facebook these days, and that is nothing but a bunch of immature punks, while FB itself is monitoring everything we do and say. I wouldn't use FB even if they offerred to pay me for it. As for upgrading, my oldest computer with Windows98 and my newest one with XP, both do everything else (non-internet) perfectly. I can watch movies, play music, edit photos, do accounting, type letters, and much more. It's just the internet stuff that keeps demanding upgrades. Once usenet is dead, which wont be long, I'll probably cancel my internet service. I can get email and weather radar maps on my cellphone, and in the rare occasion that I need repair info for my car, I can go to a WIFI spot with my laptop. The internet overall is a dying thing except that horrid facebook. I may not agree 100% but I see where you are coming from and admit you make valid points. Actually my daughter for other reasons does as you want... just uses her cell phone for internet tho she has a laptop and only uses it for internet when she comes to visit us. I find my cell phone a bit small and slow to use regularly for internet browsing even tho it's 4G and not that old. I guess for now, I'll stick with my internet service at home. I do agree it's hard to read those small screens on cellphones. But for a weather radar map, they are ok. And for email, as long as the email is text only, they work fine. I cant read most other websites on a small screen though. Most young people dont even use email anymore. Everything goes on Facebook. That thought scares me. Like I want everyone to know that I woke up with a stomach ache, or my wife had her menstral cycle today. Then again, most of what these kids post on there is meaningless anyhow. I was recently in a bar, and the crowd was mostly 21 to 30. All night they sat there testing each other and taking photos of each other and posting them on FB. WTF???? Why cant they just talk to each other in the bar? I did not stay long...... I dont understand this young generation, and in many ways, I dont want to. I still remember the early days of the internet, when people went to geocities and made a simple website to share about themselves or their business or hobby. I enjoyed that. Today there is no such thing, just the commercial sites and FB. It's sad what the internet has become! |
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On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 23:47:32 -0600, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 21:09:32 -0600, Doug wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:45:16 -0600, wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 06:55:49 -0600, Doug wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 04:34:34 -0600, wrote: Back in the late 90's it appeared that the daily newspaper was a dying thing. People could go online and read the news on multiple sites. Maybe the old ways were better....... If you only use the computer to read news I might at least consider your opinion, otherwise not. I do several things on mine and while it does require upkeep on occasion and can be a pain (sounds like my wife too), I prefer to read my news on the net. I only get a Sunday newspaper because of my wife but she is starting to read on the net too. I use my computer for other stuff besides the news, but I'm only speaking of using the internet, not the computer itself. I only use the internet to do email and occasionally look up a subject, for example, when I'm fixing my car and want to look up how to do the repair, or what type of fluid goes in the gear case, etc. Occasionally there may be another subject. Other than that, I read a few newsgroups, and bring up the local weather radar maps. That's it. Back in the 90's I had fun on the internet. It's not fun anymore. It's downright aggravating most of the time, trying to find some useful content in a pile of rubbish. Even trying to do some research on a car repair or something like that is a huge struggle to find sites that actually have information, reather than those fake sites that try to lure a person there and are filled with nothing but ads, or want me to pay for the info, or register to read it. I refuse to pay, and refuse to register to read a damn article. Af for social interaction with others, it seems that it's all about facebook these days, and that is nothing but a bunch of immature punks, while FB itself is monitoring everything we do and say. I wouldn't use FB even if they offerred to pay me for it. As for upgrading, my oldest computer with Windows98 and my newest one with XP, both do everything else (non-internet) perfectly. I can watch movies, play music, edit photos, do accounting, type letters, and much more. It's just the internet stuff that keeps demanding upgrades. Once usenet is dead, which wont be long, I'll probably cancel my internet service. I can get email and weather radar maps on my cellphone, and in the rare occasion that I need repair info for my car, I can go to a WIFI spot with my laptop. The internet overall is a dying thing except that horrid facebook. I may not agree 100% but I see where you are coming from and admit you make valid points. Actually my daughter for other reasons does as you want... just uses her cell phone for internet tho she has a laptop and only uses it for internet when she comes to visit us. I find my cell phone a bit small and slow to use regularly for internet browsing even tho it's 4G and not that old. I guess for now, I'll stick with my internet service at home. I do agree it's hard to read those small screens on cellphones. But for a weather radar map, they are ok. And for email, as long as the email is text only, they work fine. I cant read most other websites on a small screen though. Most young people dont even use email anymore. Everything goes on Facebook. That thought scares me. Like I want everyone to know that I woke up with a stomach ache, or my wife had her menstral cycle today. Then again, most of what these kids post on there is meaningless anyhow. I was recently in a bar, and the crowd was mostly 21 to 30. All night they sat there testing each other and taking photos of each other and posting them on FB. WTF???? Why cant they just talk to each other in the bar? I did not stay long...... I dont understand this young generation, and in many ways, I dont want to. I still remember the early days of the internet, when people went to geocities and made a simple website to share about themselves or their business or hobby. I enjoyed that. Today there is no such thing, just the commercial sites and FB. It's sad what the internet has become! Now we more or less are 100% in agreement grin. I have 2 daughters in mid twenties and like you I can't always figure out their thinking. I've gotten to the point I just ask them what's new on FB. Like you said, everything is on FB even our extended family news. I do miss the days of active usenet newsgroups but just accept it now. I guess it's because I felt like usenet was more personal and the web seems so impersonal. I'm probably just getting old, old in attitude or both. |
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Thanks, one of my rare laughs.
Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... Maybe the old ways were better....... I tried lining the bottom of the birdcage with my roommate's laptop but....... O_o TDD |
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 09:35:34 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: Thanks, one of my rare laughs. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . "The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... Maybe the old ways were better....... I tried lining the bottom of the birdcage with my roommate's laptop but....... O_o TDD Heck, you just didn't use enough laptops g. |
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On 11/20/2012 2:31 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 11/20/2012 12:42 PM, Frank wrote: On 11/19/2012 9:00 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote: On 11/19/2012 4:34 AM, wrote: Back in the late 90's it appeared that the daily newspaper was a dying thing. People could go online and read the news on multiple sites. This was true, and I found myself going in that direction. There were web sites that had the same text and photos as the paper. Some even had the cartoons. For awhile, I continued to get the newspaper as well as reading it online. Somewhere around 2003, I decided that it did not make sense to pay for the newspaper, which I was not reading very often anymore. I cancelled it. For a few years I would read the news online, and felt that was all I needed. However, in the last few years I've been noticing more and more that the news media websites have become so cluttered with useless garbage and ads that I was spending hours trying to get the latest news, and often left their sites feeling aggravated. These sites are no longer like a newspaper. They are a massive clutter of trash, with bits and pieces of the news scattered in between. How many damn videos are needed to address a news story anyhow? And why all the flash content that takes quite awhile to load, occasionally causes my browser to crash, and becomes very annoying more often than now, when things are bouncing around on the page and popups and other useless jink, not to mention that the pages are at least half advertising, and clicking on something that appears to be news, is really ads. Then too, how many goddamn facebook and twitter icons do they really need on each page. I've had it with the internet media sites. I just returned to getting my daily newspaper, and am very pleased. I can sit back and relax while reading the news, weather and sports, and even enjoy a few cartoons, without being bombarded with trash and other annoyances. Sure the paper costs a few bucks each week, but I have to take into consideration that electricity to run the computer costs money too, not to mention having to constantly upgrade the computer and install new browsers and software just to keep up with all this useless garbage they flood their sites with. After all, time is money too, and even if the upgrades dont cost anything, it takes time to keep installing the software and learning to use it. Yet, in the end, who needs it. A newspaper is pretty simple. It's a text news story, and some photos to back up the text. Then there's some advetising, and that's it. Whatever happened to the simple websites that looked like a newspaper? Then again, it dont stop there. The entire internet has become a massive pile of garbage. Websites that used to offer content, now are filled with trash. The newsgroups are dying fast, which means soon, we will only have that repulsive facebook and twitter to say what we want to say, and only a huge mass of garbage for websites. Considering what I've spent for computers, software, electricity to run them, and many many hours of my time, the cost of a newspaper is cheap in comparison. And better yet, I can sit back and read the newspaper without it poping up and telling me my browser is outdated and I need to install another version of adobe flash, or finding bad page rendering, where the text is on top of a photo, etc..... Maybe the old ways were better....... I tried lining the bottom of the birdcage with my roommate's laptop but....... O_o TDD Maybe an iPad is more suitable. When the bird poops on it, it will play an iTune. Perhaps it could be programed to "Tweet" when that occurs? There must be an app for that? ^_^ TDD Damn it! Now you got me started: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzXM58qR1Es http://jokideo.com/a-dell-rolling-in-the-deep/ http://www.viralviralvideos.com/2012...cutting-board/ |
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On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:31:04 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote: On 11/20/2012 12:42 PM, Frank wrote: On 11/19/2012 9:00 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote: On 11/19/2012 4:34 AM, wrote: Back in the late 90's it appeared that the daily newspaper was a dying thing. People could go online and read the news on multiple sites. This was true, and I found myself going in that direction. There were web sites that had the same text and photos as the paper. Some even had the cartoons. For awhile, I continued to get the newspaper as well as reading it online. Somewhere around 2003, I decided that it did not make sense to pay for the newspaper, which I was not reading very often anymore. I cancelled it. For a few years I would read the news online, and felt that was all I needed. However, in the last few years I've been noticing more and more that the news media websites have become so cluttered with useless garbage and ads that I was spending hours trying to get the latest news, and often left their sites feeling aggravated. These sites are no longer like a newspaper. They are a massive clutter of trash, with bits and pieces of the news scattered in between. How many damn videos are needed to address a news story anyhow? And why all the flash content that takes quite awhile to load, occasionally causes my browser to crash, and becomes very annoying more often than now, when things are bouncing around on the page and popups and other useless jink, not to mention that the pages are at least half advertising, and clicking on something that appears to be news, is really ads. Then too, how many goddamn facebook and twitter icons do they really need on each page. I've had it with the internet media sites. I just returned to getting my daily newspaper, and am very pleased. I can sit back and relax while reading the news, weather and sports, and even enjoy a few cartoons, without being bombarded with trash and other annoyances. Sure the paper costs a few bucks each week, but I have to take into consideration that electricity to run the computer costs money too, not to mention having to constantly upgrade the computer and install new browsers and software just to keep up with all this useless garbage they flood their sites with. After all, time is money too, and even if the upgrades dont cost anything, it takes time to keep installing the software and learning to use it. Yet, in the end, who needs it. A newspaper is pretty simple. It's a text news story, and some photos to back up the text. Then there's some advetising, and that's it. Whatever happened to the simple websites that looked like a newspaper? Then again, it dont stop there. The entire internet has become a massive pile of garbage. Websites that used to offer content, now are filled with trash. The newsgroups are dying fast, which means soon, we will only have that repulsive facebook and twitter to say what we want to say, and only a huge mass of garbage for websites. Considering what I've spent for computers, software, electricity to run them, and many many hours of my time, the cost of a newspaper is cheap in comparison. And better yet, I can sit back and read the newspaper without it poping up and telling me my browser is outdated and I need to install another version of adobe flash, or finding bad page rendering, where the text is on top of a photo, etc..... Maybe the old ways were better....... I tried lining the bottom of the birdcage with my roommate's laptop but....... O_o TDD Maybe an iPad is more suitable. When the bird poops on it, it will play an iTune. Perhaps it could be programed to "Tweet" when that occurs? There must be an app for that? ^_^ ....and post it on Twitter. At least it'll be good for something. |
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 09:56:03 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote: Then again, it dont stop there. The entire internet has become a massive pile of garbage. Websites that used to offer content, now are filled with trash. The newsgroups are dying fast, which means soon, we will only have that repulsive facebook and twitter to say what we want to say, and only a huge mass of garbage for websites. One must learn to filter out the male bovine droppings from the truth. O_o TDD Kind of ironic the OP complains, snivels and bitches about the Internet and Usenet, while practicing his frequent nym-shifting and trolling. Aside from violating his terms agreement with his NNTP server. Spit! |
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On Nov 19, 5:34*am, wrote:
The entire internet has become a massive pile of garbage. *Websites that used to offer content, now are filled with trash. *The newsgroups are dying fast, which means soon, we will only have that repulsive facebook and twitter to say what we want to say, and only a huge mass of garbage for websites. No ironymeter can withstand your assault. ----- - gpsman |
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On 11-20-2012 11:49, Notat Home wrote:
They usually do this with a cookie, so you can get around it by removing the cookie, but I'm sure they will be working on something that is more effective. Already know ways to control it. But not worth the trouble as long as 90% of the victims keep taking the cookies and the Kool-Aid. -- Wes Groleau Why does everyone call it a €œfanny pack" ? When was the last time you saw one on a fanny? |
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On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 11:49:02 -0500, Notat Home wrote:
I thought usenet would die when all the ISPs stopped offering it, but it has managed to survive as I think the internet does not often offer a similar service. But I think also that the only people using usenet are old-timers who are hanging on. Younger people do not even know it is there. None of my kids, all adults now, knows about usenet. I agree that usenet is mostly older people. But at least 90% of the groups are dead. That's the reason that the surviving groups, such as alt.home.repair have more off topic posts, such as this one, because the appropriate groups are dead. I have asked young people if they use "newsgroups" or "usenet". You're right, none of them know what that means..... But they sure try to get people like me to join their (BARF) Facebook!!!! No Thanks! |
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On Nov 21, 12:57*am, wrote:
I agree that usenet is mostly older people. *But at least 90% of the groups are dead. *That's the reason that the surviving groups, such as alt.home.repair have more off topic posts, such as this one, because the appropriate groups are dead. Right. It's the fault of Usenet, not stupid assholes. ----- - gpsman |
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Maybe the old ways were better....... "Now get the hell off of my lawn!" |
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