Last night I was away from home and noticed I had a tire that was low on
air. I went to the nearest gas station and added air. Thats when I
noticed the air was coming back out of the tire valve on the stem. I
suspeced a loose valve, but had no tool for that with me. Being only 5
miles from home, I overfilled the tire by about 10lbs put on the cap
(which slowed down the leak), and drove home without any problem. Once
home, I got out my valve tool and tightened it. That did not solve the
problem. I went out to the shed where I have several usable tires that
I plan to sell at the next rummage sale because they dont fit any of my
vehicles. I removed a valve and placed it into the leaky tire. I was
sure this would solve the problem. It didn't. The tire still leaks at
the valve. So I went and took out yet another valve, and changed it
again. The sucker still leaks.......

I'm confused. The air is leaking from the valve. Not from the stem,
such as around the rim, or a crack in the stem. Putting the cap on the
stem slows down the leak considerably, so that alone proves 100% that
the leak is the valve, and not anywhere on the stem.

Yet, three different valves and it's still leaking. Both those valves
came from tires that were holding air.

How can this be?
Over the years I've had tires that had either loose valves, or bad
valves. If tightening the valve did not fix the leak, a valve from
another tire always did.

This is making no sense at all.....

Yea, tomorrow I'll take it to the tire shop, but this has me puzzled....

(Since this happened on Halloween, I can only suspect ghosts, because
this just makes no sense at all otherwise)....

I agree. That would puzzle me, also. Please let us know if the tire shop can
give you any answers. I'm guessing they will break it down, replace the
valve stem, and then the "evidence" goes in the trash. The question will
remain unanswered.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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wrote in message
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Last night I was away from home and noticed I had a tire that was low on
air. I went to the nearest gas station and added air. Thats when I
noticed the air was coming back out of the tire valve on the stem. I
suspeced a loose valve, but had no tool for that with me. Being only 5
miles from home, I overfilled the tire by about 10lbs put on the cap
(which slowed down the leak), and drove home without any problem. Once
home, I got out my valve tool and tightened it. That did not solve the
problem. I went out to the shed where I have several usable tires that
I plan to sell at the next rummage sale because they dont fit any of my
vehicles. I removed a valve and placed it into the leaky tire. I was
sure this would solve the problem. It didn't. The tire still leaks at
the valve. So I went and took out yet another valve, and changed it
again. The sucker still leaks.......

I'm confused. The air is leaking from the valve. Not from the stem,
such as around the rim, or a crack in the stem. Putting the cap on the
stem slows down the leak considerably, so that alone proves 100% that
the leak is the valve, and not anywhere on the stem.

Yet, three different valves and it's still leaking. Both those valves
came from tires that were holding air.

How can this be?
Over the years I've had tires that had either loose valves, or bad
valves. If tightening the valve did not fix the leak, a valve from
another tire always did.

This is making no sense at all.....

Yea, tomorrow I'll take it to the tire shop, but this has me puzzled....

(Since this happened on Halloween, I can only suspect ghosts, because
this just makes no sense at all otherwise)....

On 11/1/2012 8:39 AM, Douglas C. Neidermeyer wrote:
....

If a new valve has no effect but capping it slows the leak down, the
likely culprit is bad threads inside the valve body preventing air tight
mating to the valve.


Or dirt, etc., ...

--

On Nov 1, 1:30*am, wrote:
Last night I was away from home and noticed I had a tire that was low on
air. *I went to the nearest gas station and added air. *Thats when I
noticed the air was coming back out of the tire valve on the stem. *I
suspeced a loose valve, but had no tool for that with me. *Being only 5
miles from home, I overfilled the tire by about 10lbs put on the cap
(which slowed down the leak), and drove home without any problem. *Once
home, I got out my valve tool and tightened it. *That did not solve the
problem. *I went out to the shed where I have several usable tires that
I plan to sell at the next rummage sale because they dont fit any of my
vehicles. *I removed a valve and placed it into the leaky tire. *I was
sure this would solve the problem. *It didn't. *The tire still leaks at
the valve. *So I went and took out yet another valve, and changed it
again. *The sucker still leaks.......

I'm confused. *The air is leaking from the valve. *Not from the stem,
such as around the rim, or a crack in the stem. *Putting the cap on the
stem slows down the leak considerably, so that alone proves 100% that
the leak is the valve, and not anywhere on the stem.

Yet, three different valves and it's still leaking. *Both those valves
came from tires that were holding air.

How can this be?
Over the years I've had tires that had either loose valves, or bad
valves. *If tightening the valve did not fix the leak, a valve from
another tire always did.

This is making no sense at all.....

Yea, tomorrow I'll take it to the tire shop, but this has me puzzled....

(Since this happened on Halloween, I can only suspect ghosts, because
this just makes no sense at all otherwise)....

Simple answer: The valve stem is damaged. Not a nuclear science
problem.

Harry K

"Harry K" wrote in message
...
Simple answer: The valve stem is damaged. Not a nuclear science
problem.

Harry K

It may be time for a new one from the store.

On 11/1/2012 9:32 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
"Harry K" wrote in message
...
Simple answer: The valve stem is damaged. Not a nuclear science
problem.

Harry K

It may be time for a new one from the store.


Most tire valve 4-way tools have a thread chaser and reamer that could
fix the valve stem so the core will seal. It's possible that it's a bur
or piece of trash stuck in the threads of the valve stem. ^_^

TDD

On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:33:26 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

Most tire valve 4-way tools have a thread chaser and reamer that could
fix the valve stem so the core will seal. It's possible that it's a bur
or piece of trash stuck in the threads of the valve stem. ^_^

If the core is not bent or cross threaded.

In article ,
wrote:

Last night I was away from home and noticed I had a tire that was low on
air. I went to the nearest gas station and added air. Thats when I
noticed the air was coming back out of the tire valve on the stem. I
suspeced a loose valve, but had no tool for that with me. Being only 5
miles from home, I overfilled the tire by about 10lbs put on the cap
(which slowed down the leak), and drove home without any problem. Once
home, I got out my valve tool and tightened it. That did not solve the
problem. I went out to the shed where I have several usable tires that
I plan to sell at the next rummage sale because they dont fit any of my
vehicles. I removed a valve and placed it into the leaky tire. I was
sure this would solve the problem. It didn't. The tire still leaks at
the valve. So I went and took out yet another valve, and changed it
again. The sucker still leaks.......

I'm confused. The air is leaking from the valve. Not from the stem,
such as around the rim, or a crack in the stem. Putting the cap on the
stem slows down the leak considerably, so that alone proves 100% that
the leak is the valve, and not anywhere on the stem.

Yet, three different valves and it's still leaking. Both those valves
came from tires that were holding air.

How can this be?
Over the years I've had tires that had either loose valves, or bad
valves. If tightening the valve did not fix the leak, a valve from
another tire always did.

This is making no sense at all.....

Yea, tomorrow I'll take it to the tire shop, but this has me puzzled....

(Since this happened on Halloween, I can only suspect ghosts, because
this just makes no sense at all otherwise)....


Yea, replace the stem... or as another poster mentioned, you might try
chasing the threads.

Hope it's not a TPMS stem...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_pr...itoring_system

Erik

On Nov 1, 4:57*pm, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:33:26 -0500, The Daring Dufas

wrote:
Most tire valve 4-way tools have a thread chaser and reamer that could
fix the valve stem so the core will seal. It's possible that it's a bur
or piece of trash stuck in the threads of the valve stem. ^_^

If the core is not bent or cross threaded.

In any case the damage is immaterial except as a cause. Don't even
fool with it, take it to atire shop and get the valve stem replaced.
Not worth fooling with.

Harry K

On Nov 1, 11:50*pm, Harry K wrote:
On Nov 1, 4:57*pm, Oren wrote:

On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:33:26 -0500, The Daring Dufas

wrote:
Most tire valve 4-way tools have a thread chaser and reamer that could
fix the valve stem so the core will seal. It's possible that it's a bur
or piece of trash stuck in the threads of the valve stem. ^_^

If the core is not bent or cross threaded.

In any case the damage is immaterial except as a cause. *Don't even
fool with it, take it to atire shop and get the valve stem replaced.
Not worth fooling with.

Harry K

But why did it start to leak when it had been ok previously??

On 11/1/2012 11:57 PM, hr(bob) wrote:
On Nov 1, 11:50 pm, Harry K wrote:
On Nov 1, 4:57 pm, Oren wrote:

On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:33:26 -0500, The Daring Dufas

wrote:
Most tire valve 4-way tools have a thread chaser and reamer that could
fix the valve stem so the core will seal. It's possible that it's a bur
or piece of trash stuck in the threads of the valve stem. ^_^

If the core is not bent or cross threaded.

In any case the damage is immaterial except as a cause. Don't even
fool with it, take it to atire shop and get the valve stem replaced.
Not worth fooling with.

Harry K

But why did it start to leak when it had been ok previously??


Evil possession by a tire demon. O_o

TDD

On 11/2/2012 1:57 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:31:29 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

I agree. That would puzzle me, also. Please let us know if the tire shop can
give you any answers. I'm guessing they will break it down, replace the
valve stem, and then the "evidence" goes in the trash. The question will
remain unanswered.

Christopher A. Young


It's not unanswered.
The tire shop said I had a very rare problem. The brass part of the
stem is molded into the rubber part. The brass part became loose in the
rubber part. The guy took a plyers and pulled the brass part right out
of the rubber part, just to show me. I was thankful he took the time to
show me. He said he's seen it before, but very seldom. It's just one of
those rare things that can happen. When I asked what caused it, he said
it could have been molded poorly, jarred somehow, or just fatigue from
age.

I could see that they were not joking about the rarity of the problem,
because the young guy who began the repair had to get the boss. The
boss was the one who told me what happened and pulled the brass part
out. He said he might see this problem once or twice a year at most.
The young guy said that was the first time he's ever seen it.

I also learned that the brass part goes all the way to the end of the
stem inside of the tire. I always thought it was just on the tip.

He replaced the stem, and 10 minutes later I was on my way. Total cost
was $8.50 plus tax. I thought that was a fair price, and excellent
service.

--------


Glad you found the odd problem and got it repaired. I had a tire that
kept going flat and took my van to the shop where I usually get tires
and the fellow there sprayed soapy water all over it and couldn't find a
leak after I had used a can of Fix-a-Flat to get me around. It went
flat and when I went back and had him remove the wheel, we saw a tiny
crack in the inner sidewall of the tire where the stop leak compound was
coming out. My old van uses 15" tires which have become hard to find on
the used market. The tire guys tell me that there aren't as many 15"
tires being manufactured as newer vehicles have switched to larger
diameter wheels. O_o

TDD

On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:31:29 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

I agree. That would puzzle me, also. Please let us know if the tire shop can
give you any answers. I'm guessing they will break it down, replace the
valve stem, and then the "evidence" goes in the trash. The question will
remain unanswered.

Christopher A. Young


It's not unanswered.
The tire shop said I had a very rare problem. The brass part of the
stem is molded into the rubber part. The brass part became loose in the
rubber part. The guy took a plyers and pulled the brass part right out
of the rubber part, just to show me. I was thankful he took the time to
show me. He said he's seen it before, but very seldom. It's just one of
those rare things that can happen. When I asked what caused it, he said
it could have been molded poorly, jarred somehow, or just fatigue from
age.

I could see that they were not joking about the rarity of the problem,
because the young guy who began the repair had to get the boss. The
boss was the one who told me what happened and pulled the brass part
out. He said he might see this problem once or twice a year at most.
The young guy said that was the first time he's ever seen it.

I also learned that the brass part goes all the way to the end of the
stem inside of the tire. I always thought it was just on the tip.

He replaced the stem, and 10 minutes later I was on my way. Total cost
was $8.50 plus tax. I thought that was a fair price, and excellent
service.

--------


.

wrote in message
.. .
Last night I was away from home and noticed I had a tire that was low on
air. I went to the nearest gas station and added air. Thats when I
noticed the air was coming back out of the tire valve on the stem. I
suspeced a loose valve, but had no tool for that with me. Being only 5
miles from home, I overfilled the tire by about 10lbs put on the cap
(which slowed down the leak), and drove home without any problem. Once
home, I got out my valve tool and tightened it. That did not solve the
problem. I went out to the shed where I have several usable tires that
I plan to sell at the next rummage sale because they dont fit any of my
vehicles. I removed a valve and placed it into the leaky tire. I was
sure this would solve the problem. It didn't. The tire still leaks at
the valve. So I went and took out yet another valve, and changed it
again. The sucker still leaks.......

I'm confused. The air is leaking from the valve. Not from the stem,
such as around the rim, or a crack in the stem. Putting the cap on the
stem slows down the leak considerably, so that alone proves 100% that
the leak is the valve, and not anywhere on the stem.

Yet, three different valves and it's still leaking. Both those valves
came from tires that were holding air.

How can this be?
Over the years I've had tires that had either loose valves, or bad
valves. If tightening the valve did not fix the leak, a valve from
another tire always did.

This is making no sense at all.....

Yea, tomorrow I'll take it to the tire shop, but this has me puzzled....

(Since this happened on Halloween, I can only suspect ghosts, because
this just makes no sense at all otherwise)....

years ago i got married and used my new wifes vehicle one day, the
tire went flat the next day and she blamed me

that car had many flats and one day i asked the tiree shop whats up?
the flats tended to occur when cold weather hit......

the problem aluninum wheels, the alunimum would actually rust, as a
white powder at the bead which caused the leak..

so i bought 4 used steel wheels and 4 new tires, and the problem ended
till the vehicle got scrapped

Thanks, I've never seen that. Something else to
know, for such moments.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

wrote in message
...

The tire shop said I had a very rare problem. The brass part of the
stem is molded into the rubber part. The brass part became loose in the
rubber part. The guy took a plyers and pulled the brass part right out
of the rubber part, just to show me. I was thankful he took the time to
show me. He said he's seen it before, but very seldom. It's just one of
those rare things that can happen. When I asked what caused it, he said
it could have been molded poorly, jarred somehow, or just fatigue from
age.

I could see that they were not joking about the rarity of the problem,
because the young guy who began the repair had to get the boss. The
boss was the one who told me what happened and pulled the brass part
out. He said he might see this problem once or twice a year at most.
The young guy said that was the first time he's ever seen it.

I also learned that the brass part goes all the way to the end of the
stem inside of the tire. I always thought it was just on the tip.

He replaced the stem, and 10 minutes later I was on my way. Total cost
was $8.50 plus tax. I thought that was a fair price, and excellent
service.

"Erik" wrote in message
...

Hope it's not a TPMS stem...

I have a 2007 truck that the TPMS went bad in one tire. They wanted about $
60 to replace it. I asked if it would pass the state's safety inspection
and was told it would (it did) without it. That price seems way out of line
for what it does compaired to much of the other electronic items on todays
market that are mass produced. I may have payed $ 15 to get it replaced.
So now I just ride around with the light on the dash.

On 11/2/2012 9:36 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
"Erik" wrote in message
...

Hope it's not a TPMS stem...

I have a 2007 truck that the TPMS went bad in one tire. They wanted about $
60 to replace it. I asked if it would pass the state's safety inspection
and was told it would (it did) without it. That price seems way out of line
for what it does compaired to much of the other electronic items on todays
market that are mass produced. I may have payed $ 15 to get it replaced.
So now I just ride around with the light on the dash.



A piece of black electrical tape will fix the light. ^_^

TDD

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...
On 11/1/2012 9:32 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
"Harry K" wrote in message
...
Simple answer: The valve stem is damaged. Not a nuclear science
problem.

Harry K

It may be time for a new one from the store.


Most tire valve 4-way tools have a thread chaser and reamer that could fix
the valve stem so the core will seal. It's possible that it's a bur
or piece of trash stuck in the threads of the valve stem. ^_^

TDD

A must have item for any glove box.

Steve

On Nov 1, 9:57*pm, "hr(bob) "
wrote:
On Nov 1, 11:50*pm, Harry K wrote:





On Nov 1, 4:57*pm, Oren wrote:

On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:33:26 -0500, The Daring Dufas

wrote:
Most tire valve 4-way tools have a thread chaser and reamer that could
fix the valve stem so the core will seal. It's possible that it's a bur
or piece of trash stuck in the threads of the valve stem. ^_^

If the core is not bent or cross threaded.

In any case the damage is immaterial except as a cause. *Don't even
fool with it, take it to atire shop and get the valve stem replaced.
Not worth fooling with.

Harry K

But why did it start to leak when it had been ok previously??

That is a stumper!! But also not worth fooling with.

Harry K

wrote in message
...
It's not unanswered.
The tire shop said I had a very rare problem. The brass part of the
stem is molded into the rubber part. The brass part became loose in the
rubber part. The guy took a plyers and pulled the brass part right out
of the rubber part, just to show me. I was thankful he took the time to
show me. He said he's seen it before, but very seldom. It's just one of
those rare things that can happen. When I asked what caused it, he said
it could have been molded poorly, jarred somehow, or just fatigue from
age.

Probably just a rare problem. For only a couple of dollars, it is not worth
fooling with, just get a new one when you have problems. I read all the
time about tires going bad just sitting on the dealers shelves. A assume
that the steams could go bad just sitting around.

One of the first part time jobs I had over 40 years ago was changing tires.
Was told then to replace all the valve steams when changing the tires.
Boss said no use in having problems to come back for as little as they cost
him.

On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 01:11:37 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 11/2/2012 1:57 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:31:29 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

I agree. That would puzzle me, also. Please let us know if the tire shop can
give you any answers. I'm guessing they will break it down, replace the
valve stem, and then the "evidence" goes in the trash. The question will
remain unanswered.

Christopher A. Young


It's not unanswered.
The tire shop said I had a very rare problem. The brass part of the
stem is molded into the rubber part. The brass part became loose in the
rubber part. The guy took a plyers and pulled the brass part right out
of the rubber part, just to show me. I was thankful he took the time to
show me. He said he's seen it before, but very seldom. It's just one of
those rare things that can happen. When I asked what caused it, he said
it could have been molded poorly, jarred somehow, or just fatigue from
age.

I could see that they were not joking about the rarity of the problem,
because the young guy who began the repair had to get the boss. The
boss was the one who told me what happened and pulled the brass part
out. He said he might see this problem once or twice a year at most.
The young guy said that was the first time he's ever seen it.

I also learned that the brass part goes all the way to the end of the
stem inside of the tire. I always thought it was just on the tip.

He replaced the stem, and 10 minutes later I was on my way. Total cost
was $8.50 plus tax. I thought that was a fair price, and excellent
service.

--------


Glad you found the odd problem and got it repaired. I had a tire that
kept going flat and took my van to the shop where I usually get tires
and the fellow there sprayed soapy water all over it and couldn't find a
leak after I had used a can of Fix-a-Flat to get me around. It went
flat and when I went back and had him remove the wheel, we saw a tiny
crack in the inner sidewall of the tire where the stop leak compound was
coming out. My old van uses 15" tires which have become hard to find on
the used market. The tire guys tell me that there aren't as many 15"
tires being manufactured as newer vehicles have switched to larger
diameter wheels. O_o

TDD
There have been a LOT of problems with crappy chinese tire valve
stems. I had 3 out of 4 fail within a month when less than 2 years old
on the PT Cruiser. After the third one, I replaced the 4th and the one
on the spair immediately. My brother had to throw away a whole box
when he found they were defective - and the "waggon jobber" he bought
them from wpuld not stand behind them.