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Hello everyone. My husband used to post here, before he passed several
years ago. I used to enjoy reading this forum along side of him in the
evenings.

I have a "what would you do" question.

My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this past
wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property. I asked him if he
could remove them, so I could cut the lawn. He called me every name in the
book, and told me it's my problem.

I suppose I could hire someone to remove them, but only having a fixed
income, and Arty didn't have life insurance, sure puts a bind on things
around here. I'd move them myself, but at 73, I'm afraid I don't have the
strength to, as it already takes me several days to cut the grass on a city
lot.

What would you do?

Thank you.


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On 10/15/2012 10:41 AM, Jan Taylor wrote:
Hello everyone. My husband used to post here, before he passed several
years ago. I used to enjoy reading this forum along side of him in the
evenings.

I have a "what would you do" question.

My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this past
wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property. I asked him if he
could remove them, so I could cut the lawn. He called me every name in the
book, and told me it's my problem.

I suppose I could hire someone to remove them, but only having a fixed
income, and Arty didn't have life insurance, sure puts a bind on things
around here. I'd move them myself, but at 73, I'm afraid I don't have the
strength to, as it already takes me several days to cut the grass on a city
lot.

What would you do?

Thank you.


Sorry for the loss of your husband. If you belong to a church, someone
from the congregation may be able to help you. I help my neighbors all
the time when I can and my friends at their churches when I can. I'm
sure there must be a GOOD neighbor somewhere around you or a community
service group or even a boyscout troop who would help you. There are
still nice people in this world despite much of the evidence to the
contrary. When we had a tornado come through and devastate the area, a
number of folks started calling in to the local talk radio shows and
offering to help anyone in need. The neighbors were there before FEMA
even woke up. A phone call to The Red Cross or Salvation Army might get
you a contact number for someone who would be glad to help you. ^_^

TDD

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Sorry for the loss of your husband. If you belong to a church, someone
from the congregation may be able to help you. I help my neighbors all
the time when I can and my friends at their churches when I can. I'm sure
there must be a GOOD neighbor somewhere around you or a community
service group or even a boyscout troop who would help you. There are
still nice people in this world despite much of the evidence to the
contrary. When we had a tornado come through and devastate the area, a
number of folks started calling in to the local talk radio shows and
offering to help anyone in need. The neighbors were there before FEMA
even woke up. A phone call to The Red Cross or Salvation Army might get
you a contact number for someone who would be glad to help you. ^_^

TDD


Thank you for your kind words.

I'm afraid I just moved here this year, I don't drive, and have mobile
meals deliver what I need to eat. I suppose I could ask the delivery person
where to contact. I definately will look into the Red Cross & Salvation
Army.

It's just so depressing, I should have stayed in Arizona and not moved
north.

Arty was a tile expert, I see a couple people still post here, when he was
posting. It's refreshing to know, people are still trying to help people
solve their home repairs.









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I'm afraid I just moved here this year, I don't drive, and have mobile
meals deliver what I need to eat. I suppose I could ask the delivery
person where to contact. I definately will look into the Red Cross &
Salvation Army.


You can also ask local government (city, county, etc.) because some
of these offer special services to elderly taxpayers, i.e. workforces of
either volunteers or convicted minor offenders.

E.g. the city hall web site nearest to my home lists:
" Completed inventory of “What the City Does for Seniors” (Phase 1)
" Reviewed trends in Seniors’ services in other Canadian municipalities"
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)


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"Jan Taylor" wrote in message
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I'm afraid I just moved here this year, I don't drive, and have mobile
meals deliver what I need to eat. I suppose I could ask the delivery
person where to contact. I definately will look into the Red Cross &
Salvation Army.


You can also ask local government (city, county, etc.) because some
of these offer special services to elderly taxpayers, i.e. workforces of
either volunteers or convicted minor offenders.

E.g. the city hall web site nearest to my home lists:
" Completed inventory of "What the City Does for Seniors" (Phase 1)
" Reviewed trends in Seniors' services in other Canadian municipalities"
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)


Ditto...Call city or town officials...



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"Jan Taylor" wrote

I'm afraid I just moved here this year, I don't drive, and have mobile
meals deliver what I need to eat. I suppose I could ask the delivery
person where to contact. I definately will look into the Red Cross &
Salvation Army.

It's just so depressing, I should have stayed in Arizona and not moved
north.


Sorry, I don't mean to be mean or anything, but what on earth are you doing
with your life? Do you just sit at home all day and watch TV? You're 73.
There are plenty of things you can do to earn money to pay for things you
need. Heck, I know a guy who is 87 and writes books about labor organizing
in the 1940s and 50s. I know a woman who is 90 who prunes her own trees and
teaches people how to use computers.

You're lucky in that you have a small income and your health. This is more
than a lot of people have, so count your blessings and use what you have and
run with it. You're bringing the depression on yourself when you have tools
that can help you enjoy life.



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And of course, TDD has the gentle answer. I'd open the phone book, and call
churches, to see if they can help. I'm partial to the Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter-day Saints. They (we) do a lot of free work.

Christopher A. Young
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www.lds.org
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Sorry for the loss of your husband. If you belong to a church, someone
from the congregation may be able to help you. I help my neighbors all
the time when I can and my friends at their churches when I can. I'm
sure there must be a GOOD neighbor somewhere around you or a community
service group or even a boyscout troop who would help you. There are
still nice people in this world despite much of the evidence to the
contrary. When we had a tornado come through and devastate the area, a
number of folks started calling in to the local talk radio shows and
offering to help anyone in need. The neighbors were there before FEMA
even woke up. A phone call to The Red Cross or Salvation Army might get
you a contact number for someone who would be glad to help you. ^_^

TDD



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On 10/15/2012 10:41 AM, Jan Taylor wrote:
Hello everyone. My husband used to post here, before he passed several
years ago. I used to enjoy reading this forum along side of him in the
evenings.

I have a "what would you do" question.

My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this past
wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property. I asked him if he
could remove them, so I could cut the lawn. He called me every name in the
book, and told me it's my problem.

I suppose I could hire someone to remove them, but only having a fixed
income, and Arty didn't have life insurance, sure puts a bind on things
around here. I'd move them myself, but at 73, I'm afraid I don't have the
strength to, as it already takes me several days to cut the grass on a city
lot.

What would you do?

Thank you.


Sorry for the loss of your husband. If you belong to a church, someone
from the congregation may be able to help you. I help my neighbors all
the time when I can and my friends at their churches when I can. I'm
sure there must be a GOOD neighbor somewhere around you or a community
service group or even a boyscout troop who would help you. There are
still nice people in this world despite much of the evidence to the
contrary. When we had a tornado come through and devastate the area, a
number of folks started calling in to the local talk radio shows and
offering to help anyone in need. The neighbors were there before FEMA
even woke up. A phone call to The Red Cross or Salvation Army might get
you a contact number for someone who would be glad to help you. ^_^

TDD

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Jan Taylor wrote:
Hello everyone. My husband used to post here, before he passed several
years ago. I used to enjoy reading this forum along side of him in the
evenings.

I have a "what would you do" question.

My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this past
wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property. I asked him if he
could remove them, so I could cut the lawn. He called me every name in the
book, and told me it's my problem.

I suppose I could hire someone to remove them, but only having a fixed
income, and Arty didn't have life insurance, sure puts a bind on things
around here. I'd move them myself, but at 73, I'm afraid I don't have the
strength to, as it already takes me several days to cut the grass on a city
lot.

What would you do?

Thank you.


Hi,
Sorry about your husband. I hope your neighbor is not that bad other
ways. About a month ago exactly same thing happened to my neighbor from
my tree limbs falling over into their yard hitting their hot tub.

I called my insurance Co. and they sent a crew to clean up the mess and
I had the injured tree cut down. Likewise IMO, your neighbor or their
insurance should take care of the mess. After all it's their tree.

Luckily their hot tub did not suffer any damage, if they did it would've
been my responsibility too. As far as I am concerned, it is common sense
affair.
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On 10/15/2012 12:23 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:


Jan Taylor wrote:
Hello everyone. My husband used to post here, before he passed several
years ago. I used to enjoy reading this forum along side of him in the
evenings.

I have a "what would you do" question.

My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this
past
wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property. I asked him
if he
could remove them, so I could cut the lawn. He called me every name in
the
book, and told me it's my problem.

I suppose I could hire someone to remove them, but only having a fixed
income, and Arty didn't have life insurance, sure puts a bind on things
around here. I'd move them myself, but at 73, I'm afraid I don't have
the
strength to, as it already takes me several days to cut the grass on a
city
lot.

What would you do?

Thank you.


Hi,
Sorry about your husband. I hope your neighbor is not that bad other
ways. About a month ago exactly same thing happened to my neighbor from
my tree limbs falling over into their yard hitting their hot tub.

I called my insurance Co. and they sent a crew to clean up the mess and
I had the injured tree cut down. Likewise IMO, your neighbor or their
insurance should take care of the mess. After all it's their tree.

Luckily their hot tub did not suffer any damage, if they did it would've
been my responsibility too. As far as I am concerned, it is common sense
affair.


Generally, what is above your property is yours, so branches overhanging
your property would not be the neighbor's responsibility. Calling
insurance co is good idea. Also most sizeable communities have senior
services organizations and semi-govt. which might help out. There was a
"one stop" information line in Florida, by calling 211, that had info
about dozens of social services. If nothing else, try the Red Cross, at
least as an info resource. The present and former cities where I reside
have yearly "good neighbor" days, where folks volunteer for all sorts of
residential help, from painting to landscaping....another place to check
would be a local scout troop.


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On Oct 15, 3:24*pm, Norminn wrote:
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Jan Taylor wrote:
Hello everyone. My husband used to post here, before he passed several
years ago. I used to enjoy reading this forum along side of him in the
evenings.


I have a "what would you do" question.


My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this
past
wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property. I asked him
if he
could remove them, so I could cut the lawn. He called me every name in
the
book, and told me it's my problem.


I suppose I could hire someone to remove them, but only having a fixed
income, and Arty didn't have life insurance, sure puts a bind on things
around here. *I'd move them myself, but at 73, I'm afraid I don't have
the
strength to, as it already takes me several days to cut the grass on a
city
lot.


What would you do?


Thank you.


Hi,
Sorry about your husband. I hope your neighbor is not that bad other
ways. About a month ago exactly same thing happened to my neighbor from
my tree limbs falling over into their yard hitting their hot tub.


I called my insurance Co. and they sent a crew to clean up the mess and
I had the injured tree cut down. Likewise IMO, your neighbor or their
insurance should take care of the mess. After all it's their tree.


Luckily their hot tub did not suffer any damage, if they did it would've
been my responsibility too. As far as I am concerned, it is common sense
affair.


Generally, what is above your property is yours, so branches overhanging
your property would not be the neighbor's responsibility.


Yes, that's the general rule in the USA.



*Calling
insurance co is good idea.


For a removal of a few tree branches? Every homeowner's
policy I've ever had included deductibles that would be far
more than the cost. You'd essentially need a zero deductible to
collect and even then I wouldn't put in a claim.
Your claim history is one thing that determines your rate
and availability of insurance.

In addition to the volunteer idea, I'd keep an eye out for
tree companies, landscapers, etc that are doing work on
houses nearby. When they are there, ask them if they
would do it and how much. When they are already there
and it's a 15 min job, you may get a very good price.




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On Oct 15, 11:41*am, "Jan Taylor" wrote:
Hello everyone. My husband used to post here, before he passed several
years ago. I used to enjoy reading this forum along side of him in the
evenings.

I have a "what would you do" question.

My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this past
wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property. I asked him if he
could remove them, so I could cut the lawn. He called me every name in the
book, and told me it's my problem.

I suppose I could hire someone to remove them, but only having a fixed
income, and Arty didn't have life insurance, sure puts a bind on things
around here. *I'd move them myself, but at 73, I'm afraid I don't have the
strength to, as it already takes me several days to cut the grass on a city
lot.

What would you do?

Thank you.


Sorry to hear of your loss.

First, anyone that would call a 73 YO widow "every name in the book"
and refuse to help needs a few large tree limbs dropped on him.
Unless of course there's some past event that we don't know about that
has caused a rift between you (or your husband?) and him.

When a neighbor's tree limbs fell on my property, I called my
Homeowners Insurance company and put in a claim. Now, in my case, they
landed on the roof and deck, not just in the yard, so the clean up was
pretty extensive. There was no damage to the house or deck, but there
was a large amount of wood hanging precariously off of my house and
not something that I wanted to tackle from the roof or a ladder.

Depending on how much of the tree is in your yard, you might want to
at least call your Ins Co and get an idea of the cost.

How about contacting a Boy Scout troop, Big Brother, or some other
community organization and see if they are looking for "community
service" projects for their members?
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On 10/15/2012 08:41 AM, Jan Taylor wrote:
Hello everyone. My husband used to post here, before he passed several
years ago. I used to enjoy reading this forum along side of him in the
evenings.

I have a "what would you do" question.

My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this past
wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property. I asked him if he
could remove them, so I could cut the lawn. He called me every name in the
book, and told me it's my problem.

I suppose I could hire someone to remove them, but only having a fixed
income, and Arty didn't have life insurance, sure puts a bind on things
around here. I'd move them myself, but at 73, I'm afraid I don't have the
strength to, as it already takes me several days to cut the grass on a city
lot.

What would you do?


I would contact the city and ask them what the policy is for a tree
overhanging onto a neighbor's property. In many cities, the tree is the
responsibility of the originating owner, and if you live in such a city,
the neighbor would be obligated to remove the limbs.

Alternately, if the limbs are big enough, take a picture of them and
post a picture in Craigslist for "free limbs for firewood".

As a third option, find a half-dozen other women such as yourself, and
mill around his house at night chanting. The next time he stubs his
toe he'll think he's been cursed, and he'll beg you to remove it.

But I'd call the city, first.

Jon

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Hello everyone. My husband used to post here, before he passed several
years ago. I used to enjoy reading this forum along side of him in the
evenings.


I have a "what would you do" question.


My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this past
wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property. I asked him if he
could remove them, so I could cut the lawn. He called me every name in the
book, and told me it's my problem.


I suppose I could hire someone to remove them, but only having a fixed
income, and Arty didn't have life insurance, sure puts a bind on things
around here. *I'd move them myself, but at 73, I'm afraid I don't have the
strength to, as it already takes me several days to cut the grass on a city
lot.


What would you do?


I would contact the city and ask them what the policy is for a tree
overhanging onto a neighbor's property. *In many cities, the tree is the
responsibility of the originating owner,
and if you live in such a city,
the neighbor would be obligated to remove the limbs.



That's not the case in the vast majority of the US. While
it may be true some place, I'd like to see an example of
an area where the owner of a tree is responsible for
branches of a normal appearing tree that overhang a neighbor's
yard and come down in a wind storm.


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Jan Taylor wrote the following on 10/15/2012 11:41 AM (ET):
Hello everyone. My husband used to post here, before he passed several
years ago. I used to enjoy reading this forum along side of him in the
evenings.

I have a "what would you do" question.

My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this past
wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property. I asked him if he
could remove them, so I could cut the lawn. He called me every name in the
book, and told me it's my problem.

I suppose I could hire someone to remove them, but only having a fixed
income, and Arty didn't have life insurance, sure puts a bind on things
around here. I'd move them myself, but at 73, I'm afraid I don't have the
strength to, as it already takes me several days to cut the grass on a city
lot.

What would you do?

Thank you.


I hate these neighbor dispute questions. It usually winds up with
getting revenge as the only solution.
Revenge - Everything that hangs over your property is yours, including
tree branches from other properties. The neighbor is usually not
required to remove his fallen branches from your property.
So, you get a tree person to cut up the fallen branches on your property
and then have them cut all the branches on your neighbor's trees that
hang over your property so they don't fall on your property any more.

Perhaps if you told him that beforehand, he'll remove the branches.

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On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:45:43 -0400, willshak
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Jan Taylor wrote the following on 10/15/2012 11:41 AM (ET):
Hello everyone. My husband used to post here, before he passed several
years ago. I used to enjoy reading this forum along side of him in the
evenings.

I have a "what would you do" question.

My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this past
wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property. I asked him if he
could remove them, so I could cut the lawn. He called me every name in the
book, and told me it's my problem.

I suppose I could hire someone to remove them, but only having a fixed
income, and Arty didn't have life insurance, sure puts a bind on things
around here. I'd move them myself, but at 73, I'm afraid I don't have the
strength to, as it already takes me several days to cut the grass on a city
lot.

What would you do?

Thank you.


I hate these neighbor dispute questions. It usually winds up with
getting revenge as the only solution.
Revenge - Everything that hangs over your property is yours, including
tree branches from other properties. The neighbor is usually not
required to remove his fallen branches from your property.
So, you get a tree person to cut up the fallen branches on your property
and then have them cut all the branches on your neighbor's trees that
hang over your property so they don't fall on your property any more.

Perhaps if you told him that beforehand, he'll remove the branches.

MOST places the tree is his, the damage is his - or his liability
insurance - and if you shave everything off your side of his tree, you
are liable for the damage to his tree.
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On 10/15/2012 5:25 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:45:43 -0400, willshak
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Jan Taylor wrote the following on 10/15/2012 11:41 AM (ET):
Hello everyone. My husband used to post here, before he passed several
years ago. I used to enjoy reading this forum along side of him in the
evenings.

I have a "what would you do" question.

My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this past
wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property. I asked him if he
could remove them, so I could cut the lawn. He called me every name in the
book, and told me it's my problem.

I suppose I could hire someone to remove them, but only having a fixed
income, and Arty didn't have life insurance, sure puts a bind on things
around here. I'd move them myself, but at 73, I'm afraid I don't have the
strength to, as it already takes me several days to cut the grass on a city
lot.

What would you do?

Thank you.


I hate these neighbor dispute questions. It usually winds up with
getting revenge as the only solution.
Revenge - Everything that hangs over your property is yours, including
tree branches from other properties. The neighbor is usually not
required to remove his fallen branches from your property.
So, you get a tree person to cut up the fallen branches on your property
and then have them cut all the branches on your neighbor's trees that
hang over your property so they don't fall on your property any more.

Perhaps if you told him that beforehand, he'll remove the branches.

MOST places the tree is his, the damage is his - or his liability
insurance - and if you shave everything off your side of his tree, you
are liable for the damage to his tree.


Normally, branches over my property are MY responsibility. If the trees
on the neighbor's property are in poor condition, then it can be a code
violation and the city can require removal.
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Norminn wrote:
On 10/15/2012 5:25 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:45:43 -0400, willshak
wrote:

Jan Taylor wrote the following on 10/15/2012 11:41 AM (ET):
Hello everyone. My husband used to post here, before he passed several
years ago. I used to enjoy reading this forum along side of him in the
evenings.

I have a "what would you do" question.

My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this past
wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property. I asked him if he
could remove them, so I could cut the lawn. He called me every name in the
book, and told me it's my problem.

I suppose I could hire someone to remove them, but only having a fixed
income, and Arty didn't have life insurance, sure puts a bind on things
around here. I'd move them myself, but at 73, I'm afraid I don't have the
strength to, as it already takes me several days to cut the grass on a city
lot.

What would you do?

Thank you.

I hate these neighbor dispute questions. It usually winds up with
getting revenge as the only solution.
Revenge - Everything that hangs over your property is yours, including
tree branches from other properties. The neighbor is usually not
required to remove his fallen branches from your property.
So, you get a tree person to cut up the fallen branches on your property
and then have them cut all the branches on your neighbor's trees that
hang over your property so they don't fall on your property any more.

Perhaps if you told him that beforehand, he'll remove the branches.

MOST places the tree is his, the damage is his - or his liability
insurance - and if you shave everything off your side of his tree, you
are liable for the damage to his tree.


Normally, branches over my property are MY responsibility. If the trees
on the neighbor's property are in poor condition, then it can be a code
violation and the city can require removal.


What idiot came up with this ?

Greg
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Norminn wrote:
On 10/15/2012 5:25 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:45:43 -0400, willshak
wrote:

Jan Taylor wrote the following on 10/15/2012 11:41 AM (ET):
Hello everyone. My husband used to post here, before he passed several
years ago. I used to enjoy reading this forum along side of him in the
evenings.

I have a "what would you do" question.

My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this past
wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property. I asked him if he
could remove them, so I could cut the lawn. He called me every name in the
book, and told me it's my problem.

I suppose I could hire someone to remove them, but only having a fixed
income, and Arty didn't have life insurance, sure puts a bind on things
around here. I'd move them myself, but at 73, I'm afraid I don't have the
strength to, as it already takes me several days to cut the grass on a city
lot.

What would you do?

Thank you.

I hate these neighbor dispute questions. It usually winds up with
getting revenge as the only solution.
Revenge - Everything that hangs over your property is yours, including
tree branches from other properties. The neighbor is usually not
required to remove his fallen branches from your property.
So, you get a tree person to cut up the fallen branches on your property
and then have them cut all the branches on your neighbor's trees that
hang over your property so they don't fall on your property any more.

Perhaps if you told him that beforehand, he'll remove the branches.

MOST places the tree is his, the damage is his - or his liability
insurance - and if you shave everything off your side of his tree, you
are liable for the damage to his tree.


Normally, branches over my property are MY responsibility. If the trees
on the neighbor's property are in poor condition, then it can be a code
violation and the city can require removal.


I consider leaves from my trees in other yards my problem. I hope the wind
bows real hard again this year so you can't see anything. Been like that a
couple years.

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Normally, branches over my property are MY responsibility. If the
trees on the neighbor's property are in poor condition, then it can
be a code violation and the city can require removal.


Glad you qualified your observation with "normally." While the branches
overhanging your property are "yours" if, in dealing with them, you kill
"his" tree, a whole new set of liabilities come up.




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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 08:58:12 -0500, "HeyBub" wrote:

Norminn wrote:


Normally, branches over my property are MY responsibility. If the
trees on the neighbor's property are in poor condition, then it can
be a code violation and the city can require removal.


Glad you qualified your observation with "normally." While the branches
overhanging your property are "yours" if, in dealing with them, you kill
"his" tree, a whole new set of liabilities come up.

Right, but the branches that fall are yours to deal with. You can trim the
tree but you'd better not kill it doing so.
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 17:25:47 -0400, wrote:


I hate these neighbor dispute questions. It usually winds up with
getting revenge as the only solution.
Revenge - Everything that hangs over your property is yours, including
tree branches from other properties. The neighbor is usually not
required to remove his fallen branches from your property.
So, you get a tree person to cut up the fallen branches on your property
and then have them cut all the branches on your neighbor's trees that
hang over your property so they don't fall on your property any more.

Perhaps if you told him that beforehand, he'll remove the branches.

MOST places the tree is his, the damage is his - or his liability
insurance - and if you shave everything off your side of his tree, you
are liable for the damage to his tree.


I don't think so. Everything I've ever heard is that one may trim
overhanging branches to the property line. (make sure you know where
the property line really is,or at least don't go beyond where it might
be..) Mrs. Taylor might want to post to misc.legal.moderated
where they will answer the legal questions. This is common issue and
well known.

My condolences to you, Mrs. Taylor. It sounds so pleasant, you and
Art reading a newsgroup or anything togeher.

Be sure to tell them what state you live in, and as many details as
possible. If the limbs in question were not healthy, and the owner
knew or should have known, if the lack of health showed from the
outside, that would make a difference, but I forget the details. Tell
them your details and they will you.

Trimming to the property line may make the tree ugly for your eyes and
his, but I agree, the threat might be enough to get him to remove
what's fallen rather than have you call someone to do that and the
trimmming too.
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I don't think so. Everything I've ever heard is that one may trim
overhanging branches to the property line. (make sure you know where
the property line really is,or at least don't go beyond where it might
be..) Mrs. Taylor might want to post to misc.legal.moderated
where they will answer the legal questions. This is common issue and
well known.

My condolences to you, Mrs. Taylor. It sounds so pleasant, you and
Art reading a newsgroup or anything togeher.

Be sure to tell them what state you live in, and as many details as
possible. If the limbs in question were not healthy, and the owner
knew or should have known, if the lack of health showed from the
outside, that would make a difference, but I forget the details. Tell
them your details and they will you.

Trimming to the property line may make the tree ugly for your eyes and
his, but I agree, the threat might be enough to get him to remove
what's fallen rather than have you call someone to do that and the
trimmming too.


I forgot to say that misc.legal;moderated only releases posts every
few days. And they moderate every post, so yours won't appear right
away and the replies will take a few days even if they are posted
immediately. But unlike some questions, I dont' think they'll be
any doubt on any aspect of this one.
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Jan Taylor wrote the following on 10/15/2012 11:41 AM (ET):
Hello everyone. My husband used to post here, before he passed several
years ago. I used to enjoy reading this forum along side of him in the
evenings.


I have a "what would you do" question.


My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this past
wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property. I asked him if he
could remove them, so I could cut the lawn. He called me every name in the
book, and told me it's my problem.


I suppose I could hire someone to remove them, but only having a fixed
income, and Arty didn't have life insurance, sure puts a bind on things
around here. *I'd move them myself, but at 73, I'm afraid I don't have the
strength to, as it already takes me several days to cut the grass on a city
lot.


What would you do?


Thank you.


I hate these neighbor dispute questions. It usually winds up with
getting revenge as the only solution.
Revenge - Everything that hangs over your property is yours, including
tree branches from other properties. The neighbor is usually not
required to remove his fallen branches from your property.
So, you get a tree person to cut up the fallen branches on your property
and then have them cut all the branches on your neighbor's trees that
hang over your property so they don't fall on your property any more.


Perhaps if you told him that beforehand, he'll remove the branches.


* MOST places the tree is his, the damage is his - or his liability
insurance - and if you shave everything off your side of his tree, you
are liable for the damage to his tree.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Maybe most places in Canada, IDK about that. But definitely not
true in the USA. It's as Norminn stated. Branches over the property
line may be cut back to the property line and any such branches
that come off in a wind storm and any resulting damage, are not
the responsibility of the property owner with the tree. Exception
would be if the tree was obviously diseased, dead, leaning
dangerously, the owner was made aware of that, etc.
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I hate these neighbor dispute questions. It usually winds up with
getting revenge as the only solution.


Oh, yeah, now *there* is a good idea...

Revenge - Everything that hangs over your property is yours, including
tree branches from other properties. The neighbor is usually not
required to remove his fallen branches from your property.
So, you get a tree person to cut up the fallen branches on your property
and then have them cut all the branches on your neighbor's trees that
hang over your property so they don't fall on your property any more.


If she can't afford to hire someone to remove the deadfall, how do you imagine she can afford
to hire a tree service to hack the neighbor's trees?


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On Oct 15, 4:41*pm, "Jan Taylor" wrote:
Hello everyone. My husband used to post here, before he passed several
years ago. I used to enjoy reading this forum along side of him in the
evenings.

I have a "what would you do" question.

My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this past
wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property. I asked him if he
could remove them, so I could cut the lawn. He called me every name in the
book, and told me it's my problem.

I suppose I could hire someone to remove them, but only having a fixed
income, and Arty didn't have life insurance, sure puts a bind on things
around here. *I'd move them myself, but at 73, I'm afraid I don't have the
strength to, as it already takes me several days to cut the grass on a city
lot.

What would you do?

Thank you.



Sorry to hear about your husband.
In my area lots of people have wood burning stoves.
If this is so where you live,why not put a sign up outside your house
"FREE FiREWOOD"
It would be gone in half a day where I live.
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On 10/15/2012 11:41 AM, Jan Taylor wrote:
Hello everyone. My husband used to post here, before he passed several
years ago. I used to enjoy reading this forum along side of him in the
evenings.

I have a "what would you do" question.

My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this past
wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property. I asked him if he
could remove them, so I could cut the lawn. He called me every name in the
book, and told me it's my problem.

I suppose I could hire someone to remove them, but only having a fixed
income, and Arty didn't have life insurance, sure puts a bind on things
around here. I'd move them myself, but at 73, I'm afraid I don't have the
strength to, as it already takes me several days to cut the grass on a city
lot.

What would you do?

Thank you.



Sorry to hear this but if they fall on your property it is normally your
responsibility. Your neighbor is a jerk. I had a similar situation a
couple of years ago and called neighbors to tell them that one of their
trees had fallen on my property because they cannot see it from their
house. They came over and removed it but did not have to.

Homeowners insurance will sometimes take care of. Does not sound like a
big job and if you ask around may find someone to do cheaply. My son
had a tree die is his front yard and both our chain saws were broken but
somebody looking for work saw it, knocked on his door and took it down
for less than $100.
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Walk to the corner store. Approach a few strong teenagers, and ask if they
want to make a couple bucks. Have them cut the branches into small enough
pieces to lift. Then, have them pitch the pieces over the fence into his
yard.

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Hello everyone. My husband used to post here, before he passed several
years ago. I used to enjoy reading this forum along side of him in the
evenings.

I have a "what would you do" question.

My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this past
wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property. I asked him if he
could remove them, so I could cut the lawn. He called me every name in the
book, and told me it's my problem.

I suppose I could hire someone to remove them, but only having a fixed
income, and Arty didn't have life insurance, sure puts a bind on things
around here. I'd move them myself, but at 73, I'm afraid I don't have the
strength to, as it already takes me several days to cut the grass on a city
lot.

What would you do?

Thank you.




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Walk to the corner store. Approach a few strong teenagers, and ask if they
want to make a couple bucks. Have them cut the branches into small enough
pieces to lift. Then, have them pitch the pieces over the fence into his
yard.

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Hello everyone. My husband used to post here, before he passed several
years ago. I used to enjoy reading this forum along side of him in the
evenings.

I have a "what would you do" question.

My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this past
wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property. I asked him if he
could remove them, so I could cut the lawn. He called me every name in the
book, and told me it's my problem.

I suppose I could hire someone to remove them, but only having a fixed
income, and Arty didn't have life insurance, sure puts a bind on things
around here. *I'd move them myself, but at 73, I'm afraid I don't have the
strength to, as it already takes me several days to cut the grass on a city
lot.

What would you do?

Thank you.


Really? This nice lady comes here asking for advice and you suggest
that she tell some teenagers to throw the limbs back over the fence?
Are you going to be there when the police show up?

Oh I see, that explains the part where the members of your church do a
lot of "free work"

After all, in another post you said: "I'm partial to the Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They (we) do a lot of free work."

So the "free work" would be you being there when the police show up
after she follows your suggestion and has the teenagers throw the wood
over the fence, right? That's very nice of you.
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Really? This nice lady comes here asking for advice and you suggest
that she tell some teenagers to throw the limbs back over the fence?
Are you going to be there when the police show up?

Oh I see, that explains the part where the members of your church do a
lot of "free work"

After all, in another post you said: "I'm partial to the Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They (we) do a lot of free work."

So the "free work" would be you being there when the police show up
after she follows your suggestion and has the teenagers throw the wood
over the fence, right? That's very nice of you.




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On 10/15/2012 1:26 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Oct 15, 1:23 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
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Walk to the corner store. Approach a few strong teenagers, and ask if they
want to make a couple bucks. Have them cut the branches into small enough
pieces to lift. Then, have them pitch the pieces over the fence into his
yard.

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Hello everyone. My husband used to post here, before he passed several
years ago. I used to enjoy reading this forum along side of him in the
evenings.

I have a "what would you do" question.

My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this past
wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property. I asked him if he
could remove them, so I could cut the lawn. He called me every name in the
book, and told me it's my problem.

I suppose I could hire someone to remove them, but only having a fixed
income, and Arty didn't have life insurance, sure puts a bind on things
around here. I'd move them myself, but at 73, I'm afraid I don't have the
strength to, as it already takes me several days to cut the grass on a city
lot.

What would you do?

Thank you.


Really? This nice lady comes here asking for advice and you suggest
that she tell some teenagers to throw the limbs back over the fence?
Are you going to be there when the police show up?

Oh I see, that explains the part where the members of your church do a
lot of "free work"

After all, in another post you said: "I'm partial to the Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They (we) do a lot of free work."

So the "free work" would be you being there when the police show up
after she follows your suggestion and has the teenagers throw the wood
over the fence, right? That's very nice of you.


I agree. That's the most half-assed suggestion I've read here in a
long while.

I hate to bring this up, but nowadays you have to: OP, whoever you
have doing the work, understand you'll be liable for any injuries
they sustain while helping you out. Your homeowner's insurance will
cover it, but that's the reason why hiring a licensed and insured pro
is preferable when you can afford to do so. It sounds like you can't
afford that, so just make sure that whoever helps you isn't careless
or goofing around - which, alas, is something teenagers are prone to
without supervision.

I'll second/third the suggestions already made to post a 'free
firewood' sign, or ask the local church or community group if any
members would like to come get it. When I had a major limb come down
in my yard, I had quite a few strangers knocking at the door asking
for permission to cut and remove the wood for their own use.
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Might be the best answer yet. Free wood sign out front.

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I'll second/third the suggestions already made to post a 'free
firewood' sign, or ask the local church or community group if any
members would like to come get it. When I had a major limb come down
in my yard, I had quite a few strangers knocking at the door asking
for permission to cut and remove the wood for their own use.


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My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this

past
wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property. I asked him if

he
could remove them, so I could cut the lawn. He called me every name in

the
book, and told me it's my problem.


"Stormin Mormon" wrote


. . . Then, have them pitch the pieces over the fence into his yard.


Extremely bad advice!! Whatever you do Jan, DON'T have anyone throw
anything into your neighbor's yard at your request.

If your twitchy neighbor has a video camera, you could leave yourself open
to a charge of malicious mischief or littering and be responsible for any
damage done during the "repatriation" of the wood. That may seem strange
but it was an act of God that put those broken branches in your yard.
Having someone put the branches back in his yard is not. It's your
deliberate act and it's wrongful in many (most?) states, AFAIK.

About the only way I know of to get the offender to remove the branches is
for you to prove that they were already dead and represented a hazard that
the tree's owner was aware of. I just spent $3000+ removing such a tree
because I knew limbs were dead. It's a double-boled tree with a fence
running through it. Each year, I would inspect it for dead limbs (no leaf
growth) and this year, two very large branches (about 10" in diameter) did
not flower. Since my neighbor has a beautiful yard and two grandchildren
that often play there, I thought I'd rather pay the $ now to do it right
than worry that my tree could kill one of those kids. The tree had already
dropped a huge branch that dented my metal shed on a clear, calm day with no
winds. I didn't want a situation that money could fix to become one no
amount of money could.

My advice, in addition to the mostly useful advice received here, is to get
photographs of the branches in question (are there leaves on them or were
they dead?) and do it very obviously. That could induce your grumpy
neighbor to accept responsibility for removal of the limbs, especially if
other limbs are dead and need pruning. Some jurisdictions, like mine, have
an official arborist who can inspect you neighbor's tree and determine if
those limbs should have been removed BEFORE they were brought down by wind.
This step is often necessary to force the offending neighbor to properly
care for his trees (many homeowners fail in this area). I suspect the
branches now in your yard won't be the last ones, particularly if your
neighbor doesn't properly care for his trees.

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On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:41:56 -0400, "Jan Taylor"
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I suppose I could hire someone to remove them, but only having a fixed
income, and Arty didn't have life insurance, sure puts a bind on things
around here. I'd move them myself, but at 73, I'm afraid I don't have the
strength to, as it already takes me several days to cut the grass on a city
lot.

What would you do?


I'd check with the local city for a senior advocacy group. Seniors
helping seniors.
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Jan Taylor wrote:
Hello everyone. My husband used to post here, before he passed several
years ago. I used to enjoy reading this forum along side of him in the
evenings.

I have a "what would you do" question.

My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this
past wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property. I asked
him if he could remove them, so I could cut the lawn. He called me
every name in the book, and told me it's my problem.

I suppose I could hire someone to remove them, but only having a fixed
income, and Arty didn't have life insurance, sure puts a bind on
things around here. I'd move them myself, but at 73, I'm afraid I
don't have the strength to, as it already takes me several days to
cut the grass on a city lot.

What would you do?


I rather liked the Morman's suggestion of asking teenagers at the corner
store. They'd work cheaply enough but you said "large" limbs. We all have
our own definition of "large" but I'm guessing that they need chain sawing
and that you don't have a chain saw. Even if you did I wouldn't suggest
turning teenagers loose with one.

Even though you don't get out much, you probably do so at times...doctors,
beauty parlor, etc. Try asking everyone you come in contact with if they
know someone who could/would do it reasonably. With luck, you'll find a
willing volunteer.

Good luck.


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After some thought, the teenagers idea grows less suitable. Teens seldom
display good judgement, and are often dangerous. Calling churches from the
yellow pages sounds better.

Years ago, someone posted a help wanted to move a big branch. I don't
remember the details, but I got there and had a big laugh, I could have
pulled the branch to the curb without any cutting. The woman had some
handicaps, and she could not have pulled it.

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I rather liked the Morman's suggestion of asking teenagers at the corner
store. They'd work cheaply enough but you said "large" limbs. We all have
our own definition of "large" but I'm guessing that they need chain sawing
and that you don't have a chain saw. Even if you did I wouldn't suggest
turning teenagers loose with one.

Even though you don't get out much, you probably do so at times...doctors,
beauty parlor, etc. Try asking everyone you come in contact with if they
know someone who could/would do it reasonably. With luck, you'll find a
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"Jan Taylor" writes:

Hello everyone. My husband used to post here, before he passed several
years ago. I used to enjoy reading this forum along side of him in the
evenings.

I have a "what would you do" question.

My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this past
wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property. I asked him if he
could remove them, so I could cut the lawn. He called me every name in the
book, and told me it's my problem.

I suppose I could hire someone to remove them, but only having a fixed
income, and Arty didn't have life insurance, sure puts a bind on things
around here. I'd move them myself, but at 73, I'm afraid I don't have the
strength to, as it already takes me several days to cut the grass on a city
lot.

What would you do?


Your homeowners insurance covers it.
They'll pay to bring professionals on-site and remove the branches correctly.

Forget about the advice about churches and teenagers.
Don't let non-professionals do work on your property, you could end up
with bigger problems.

I've advised my wife that if I pass unexpectedly to number 1, sell the
house and move into some place where someone else worries about issues
like this.

I don't know why you are in a private house, but I think it's a bad idea.

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Your homeowners insurance covers it.
They'll pay to bring professionals on-site and remove the branches correctly.


I wonder about the wisdom of this - insurance companies are generally
unscrupulous and greedy, and can drop a policy holder at will. I'd save calls
to the insurance company for major stuff, as if the large branch went through
the home's roof, and not risk pestering them for minor nuisances.

I think a call to see if the city or town has some sort of volunteer
organization would be a reasonable first approach. How urban or rural is the
area in question?

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Dan,

My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this
past
wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property.


Your homeowners insurance covers it.
They'll pay to bring professionals on-site and remove the branches
correctly.



My homeowner's insurance has a deductible that exceeds the cost of
removing a few tree limbs. Worth checking but I doubt this will help her.

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Dan,

My neighbor has large trees, which overhang our property. During this
past
wind storm, several large limbs ended up on my property.


Your homeowners insurance covers it.
They'll pay to bring professionals on-site and remove the branches
correctly.


My homeowner's insurance has a deductible that exceeds the cost of
removing a few tree limbs. Worth checking but I doubt this will help her.


So does mine but I specifically raised the deductible to achieve that.
My prior deductible would have made the call worthwhile.

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