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Years ago I put my name on the national no call list. After reporting
Card Holder Services to the National Do Not Call Registry web site many times, I bought a phone that blocks phone numbers. The phone still rings once, but then reports "caller blocked" Card Holder Services still call from different numbers. I have even asked several of the callers who I could sleep with to keep them from calling. (I may have phrased it a little differently) They still call. I have asked to speak to the supervisor and they hang up. Anyone think this would work? http://lemberglaw.com/debt-collectio...FQP0nAodPyYAcQ |
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Metspitzer wrote in news:17el189bh0ost43s6nfrrtnb21l9joagvf@
4ax.com: Years ago I put my name on the national no call list. After reporting Card Holder Services to the National Do Not Call Registry web site many times, I bought a phone that blocks phone numbers. The phone still rings once, but then reports "caller blocked" Card Holder Services still call from different numbers. I have even asked several of the callers who I could sleep with to keep them from calling. (I may have phrased it a little differently) They still call. I have asked to speak to the supervisor and they hang up. There's not really much you can do about it -- the calls are coming from overseas via VOIP, with spoofed caller ID. These clowns are almost certainly outside the reach of U.S. law. |
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On 8/2/2012 12:39 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
Years ago I put my name on the national no call list. After reporting Card Holder Services to the National Do Not Call Registry web site many times, I bought a phone that blocks phone numbers. The phone still rings once, but then reports "caller blocked" Card Holder Services still call from different numbers. I have even asked several of the callers who I could sleep with to keep them from calling. (I may have phrased it a little differently) They still call. I have asked to speak to the supervisor and they hang up. Anyone think this would work? http://lemberglaw.com/debt-collectio...FQP0nAodPyYAcQ These people are running a phishing scam where they convince you they can get you a lower interest rate on your credit card, and then ask you for your financial information to set it up. Since they're crooks, no, you really can't expect to get their cooperation, and you can't expect them to pay any attention to your complaints. Sadly, they find some victims among the financially desperate, the gullible, and the elderly, who tend to be much more trusting than younger generations. According to a friend of mine whose husband has been investigating them, part of the problem is that as their boiler room employees learn how to run the scam, they go off and start up the same business themselves. That's one of the reasons for all the different phone numbers. Plus the fact that they're boiler room operations, meaning they shut down and start up again using different numbers whenever the law starts to catch up with them. She said something else they'll do, if you keep asking them for information about themselves, is to give you the names and phone numbers of legitimate credit card companies and banks. Gullible people are taken in by that; suspicious people will hang up and call those companies/phone numbers, only to find out they have nothing to do with the scam. Since there's no such thing as content-based killfiles to catch phone spam, the best you can do is hang up as soon as you hear 'Cardholder Services'. |
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"Hell Toupee" wrote in message ... On 8/2/2012 12:39 PM, Metspitzer wrote: Years ago I put my name on the national no call list. After reporting Card Holder Services to the National Do Not Call Registry web site many times, I bought a phone that blocks phone numbers. The phone still rings once, but then reports "caller blocked" Card Holder Services still call from different numbers. I have even asked several of the callers who I could sleep with to keep them from calling. (I may have phrased it a little differently) They still call. I have asked to speak to the supervisor and they hang up. Anyone think this would work? http://lemberglaw.com/debt-collectio...FQP0nAodPyYAcQ These people are running a phishing scam where they convince you they can get you a lower interest rate on your credit card, and then ask you for your financial information to set it up. Since they're crooks, no, you really can't expect to get their cooperation, and you can't expect them to pay any attention to your complaints. Sadly, they find some victims among the financially desperate, the gullible, and the elderly, who tend to be much more trusting than younger generations. According to a friend of mine whose husband has been investigating them, part of the problem is that as their boiler room employees learn how to run the scam, they go off and start up the same business themselves. That's one of the reasons for all the different phone numbers. Plus the fact that they're boiler room operations, meaning they shut down and start up again using different numbers whenever the law starts to catch up with them. She said something else they'll do, if you keep asking them for information about themselves, is to give you the names and phone numbers of legitimate credit card companies and banks. Gullible people are taken in by that; suspicious people will hang up and call those companies/phone numbers, only to find out they have nothing to do with the scam. Since there's no such thing as content-based killfiles to catch phone spam, the best you can do is hang up as soon as you hear 'Cardholder Services'. There is software that will use a modem to monitor your phone line You can enter numbers that are allowed to pass through and numbers that are blocked The modem will intercept and block those numbers on the black list |
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 14:04:24 -0500, "Atila Iskander"
wrote: "Hell Toupee" wrote in message ... On 8/2/2012 12:39 PM, Metspitzer wrote: Years ago I put my name on the national no call list. After reporting Card Holder Services to the National Do Not Call Registry web site many times, I bought a phone that blocks phone numbers. The phone still rings once, but then reports "caller blocked" Card Holder Services still call from different numbers. I have even asked several of the callers who I could sleep with to keep them from calling. (I may have phrased it a little differently) They still call. I have asked to speak to the supervisor and they hang up. Anyone think this would work? http://lemberglaw.com/debt-collectio...FQP0nAodPyYAcQ These people are running a phishing scam where they convince you they can get you a lower interest rate on your credit card, and then ask you for your financial information to set it up. Since they're crooks, no, you really can't expect to get their cooperation, and you can't expect them to pay any attention to your complaints. Sadly, they find some victims among the financially desperate, the gullible, and the elderly, who tend to be much more trusting than younger generations. According to a friend of mine whose husband has been investigating them, part of the problem is that as their boiler room employees learn how to run the scam, they go off and start up the same business themselves. That's one of the reasons for all the different phone numbers. Plus the fact that they're boiler room operations, meaning they shut down and start up again using different numbers whenever the law starts to catch up with them. She said something else they'll do, if you keep asking them for information about themselves, is to give you the names and phone numbers of legitimate credit card companies and banks. Gullible people are taken in by that; suspicious people will hang up and call those companies/phone numbers, only to find out they have nothing to do with the scam. Since there's no such thing as content-based killfiles to catch phone spam, the best you can do is hang up as soon as you hear 'Cardholder Services'. There is software that will use a modem to monitor your phone line You can enter numbers that are allowed to pass through and numbers that are blocked The modem will intercept and block those numbers on the black list I haven't had a modem in a computer for many years, but I still have a drawer full of them. If I could find software that would block what was on the caller ID I would use it. Not always, but even from new numbers the caller ID says Card Holder's Services. |
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"Metspitzer" wrote in message ... On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 14:04:24 -0500, "Atila Iskander" wrote: "Hell Toupee" wrote in message ... On 8/2/2012 12:39 PM, Metspitzer wrote: Years ago I put my name on the national no call list. After reporting Card Holder Services to the National Do Not Call Registry web site many times, I bought a phone that blocks phone numbers. The phone still rings once, but then reports "caller blocked" Card Holder Services still call from different numbers. I have even asked several of the callers who I could sleep with to keep them from calling. (I may have phrased it a little differently) They still call. I have asked to speak to the supervisor and they hang up. Anyone think this would work? http://lemberglaw.com/debt-collectio...FQP0nAodPyYAcQ These people are running a phishing scam where they convince you they can get you a lower interest rate on your credit card, and then ask you for your financial information to set it up. Since they're crooks, no, you really can't expect to get their cooperation, and you can't expect them to pay any attention to your complaints. Sadly, they find some victims among the financially desperate, the gullible, and the elderly, who tend to be much more trusting than younger generations. According to a friend of mine whose husband has been investigating them, part of the problem is that as their boiler room employees learn how to run the scam, they go off and start up the same business themselves. That's one of the reasons for all the different phone numbers. Plus the fact that they're boiler room operations, meaning they shut down and start up again using different numbers whenever the law starts to catch up with them. She said something else they'll do, if you keep asking them for information about themselves, is to give you the names and phone numbers of legitimate credit card companies and banks. Gullible people are taken in by that; suspicious people will hang up and call those companies/phone numbers, only to find out they have nothing to do with the scam. Since there's no such thing as content-based killfiles to catch phone spam, the best you can do is hang up as soon as you hear 'Cardholder Services'. There is software that will use a modem to monitor your phone line You can enter numbers that are allowed to pass through and numbers that are blocked The modem will intercept and block those numbers on the black list I haven't had a modem in a computer for many years, but I still have a drawer full of them. If I could find software that would block what was on the caller ID I would use it. Not always, but even from new numbers the caller ID says Card Holder's Services. One that I recall was CallAlert Did a fast Google and found this http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Utilities/Misc__Utilities/Phone_Calls_Filter.html But I know that there was freeware out there as well. |
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PhoneTray Free can filter phone calls based on a blacklist of callerid
phone numbers using a "voice modem". You can set it up to use different WAV files of your choice for each caller. You can also block all phone calls for "quiet time". |
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On 8/2/2012 3:04 PM, Atila Iskander wrote:
"Hell Toupee" wrote in message ... On 8/2/2012 12:39 PM, Metspitzer wrote: Years ago I put my name on the national no call list. After reporting Card Holder Services to the National Do Not Call Registry web site many times, I bought a phone that blocks phone numbers. The phone still rings once, but then reports "caller blocked" Card Holder Services still call from different numbers. I have even asked several of the callers who I could sleep with to keep them from calling. (I may have phrased it a little differently) They still call. I have asked to speak to the supervisor and they hang up. Anyone think this would work? http://lemberglaw.com/debt-collectio...FQP0nAodPyYAcQ These people are running a phishing scam where they convince you they can get you a lower interest rate on your credit card, and then ask you for your financial information to set it up. Since they're crooks, no, you really can't expect to get their cooperation, and you can't expect them to pay any attention to your complaints. Sadly, they find some victims among the financially desperate, the gullible, and the elderly, who tend to be much more trusting than younger generations. According to a friend of mine whose husband has been investigating them, part of the problem is that as their boiler room employees learn how to run the scam, they go off and start up the same business themselves. That's one of the reasons for all the different phone numbers. Plus the fact that they're boiler room operations, meaning they shut down and start up again using different numbers whenever the law starts to catch up with them. She said something else they'll do, if you keep asking them for information about themselves, is to give you the names and phone numbers of legitimate credit card companies and banks. Gullible people are taken in by that; suspicious people will hang up and call those companies/phone numbers, only to find out they have nothing to do with the scam. Since there's no such thing as content-based killfiles to catch phone spam, the best you can do is hang up as soon as you hear 'Cardholder Services'. There is software that will use a modem to monitor your phone line You can enter numbers that are allowed to pass through and numbers that are blocked The modem will intercept and block those numbers on the black list Most VoIP services can have blacklist or whitelist but the problem is they are using bogus numbers so you don't know what the next number they will sending when they call will be. |
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"George" wrote in message ... On 8/2/2012 3:04 PM, Atila Iskander wrote: "Hell Toupee" wrote in message ... On 8/2/2012 12:39 PM, Metspitzer wrote: Years ago I put my name on the national no call list. After reporting Card Holder Services to the National Do Not Call Registry web site many times, I bought a phone that blocks phone numbers. The phone still rings once, but then reports "caller blocked" Card Holder Services still call from different numbers. I have even asked several of the callers who I could sleep with to keep them from calling. (I may have phrased it a little differently) They still call. I have asked to speak to the supervisor and they hang up. Anyone think this would work? http://lemberglaw.com/debt-collectio...FQP0nAodPyYAcQ These people are running a phishing scam where they convince you they can get you a lower interest rate on your credit card, and then ask you for your financial information to set it up. Since they're crooks, no, you really can't expect to get their cooperation, and you can't expect them to pay any attention to your complaints. Sadly, they find some victims among the financially desperate, the gullible, and the elderly, who tend to be much more trusting than younger generations. According to a friend of mine whose husband has been investigating them, part of the problem is that as their boiler room employees learn how to run the scam, they go off and start up the same business themselves. That's one of the reasons for all the different phone numbers. Plus the fact that they're boiler room operations, meaning they shut down and start up again using different numbers whenever the law starts to catch up with them. She said something else they'll do, if you keep asking them for information about themselves, is to give you the names and phone numbers of legitimate credit card companies and banks. Gullible people are taken in by that; suspicious people will hang up and call those companies/phone numbers, only to find out they have nothing to do with the scam. Since there's no such thing as content-based killfiles to catch phone spam, the best you can do is hang up as soon as you hear 'Cardholder Services'. There is software that will use a modem to monitor your phone line You can enter numbers that are allowed to pass through and numbers that are blocked The modem will intercept and block those numbers on the black list Most VoIP services can have blacklist or whitelist but the problem is they are using bogus numbers so you don't know what the next number they will sending when they call will be. I have had my call display show my own phone number, indicating that I am calling myself with my own phone. Sometimes the number displayed is 123-456-7890, or many other numbers that they dream up. |
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On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 13:34:04 -0500, Hell Toupee
wrote: These people are running a phishing scam where they convince you they can get you a lower interest rate on your credit card, and then ask you for your financial information to set it up. Since they're crooks, no, you really can't expect to get their cooperation, and you can't expect them to pay any attention to your complaints. Sadly, they find some victims among the financially desperate, the gullible, and the elderly, who tend to be much more trusting than younger generations. I had a call last night. Rather than hang up, I pressed 1 to talk to a friendly customer service person. I had her believing I had about $60,000 in debt and my interest rates varied from 22% to 32%. She assured me she could get single digit rates. When I told her I could not verify the card numbers, she hung up on me. |
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Yow, that's not polite of her.
Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ... I had a call last night. Rather than hang up, I pressed 1 to talk to a friendly customer service person. I had her believing I had about $60,000 in debt and my interest rates varied from 22% to 32%. She assured me she could get single digit rates. When I told her I could not verify the card numbers, she hung up on me. |
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In article ,
Ed Pawlowski wrote: When I told her I could not verify the card numbers, she hung up on me. I actually had one going so much that she called me back and called me an ass on my voice mail. This particular rocket scientist was from an area business and they were actually using their real phone number. So, I was able to get the little darlin' fired BEFORE I sent the AG to their door. Probably the most personally fulfilling time I had had with a marketer. -- America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the *******s."-- Claire Wolfe |
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On 03 Aug 2012 22:09:58 GMT, FlavorFlav wrote:
The spammers are now calling my cell phone. There was no instruction on the phone how to block calls. I finally found that if I put the callers into a group I don't use (school), then I block the entire school group. My phone never rings from them. They rarely leave a VM. Of course I have to wait for the spammers to first call so I can get their phone numbers. They are in the contact list as Z unk1, Z unk 2....and so forth. So far I have 11 of them. The problem with blacklisting is that you have to do it for each number. SWMBO as problems with SMS spam. She can log onto our Verizon account and block the number (only lasts three months, or something) but there is no way to opt out of all SMS service. We don't like paying the $.10 per spam but there is no way to block it. |
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On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 19:47:55 -0400, "
wrote: The problem with blacklisting is that you have to do it for each number. I haven't been following the thread so please excuse if I repeat something. On my Verizon cell account I'm allowed 5 blocked numbers. But the junk calls I get are always from different numbers so this is no help for me. as problems with SMS spam. She can log onto our Verizon account and block the number (only lasts three months, or something) but there is no way to opt out of all SMS service. We don't like paying the $.10 per spam but there is no way to block it. Look around the Verizon site. I have 1500/mo SMS service so my options may be different than yours but there are a whole slew of SMS option check boxes. I can opt out of premium texts, video, photos, and all texts (though I'm not sure why I would want to do that). Two that seemed to really cut down on my spam were opting out of texts originating from email and the internet. I also turned off all internet access on my wife's feature phone. Verizon's got a convoluted site so dig around an you may find what you need. |
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On 03 Aug 2012 22:09:58 GMT, FlavorFlav
wrote: The spammers are now calling my cell phone. I got a text the other day wanting to know if I had any "models" (female) available. Now and then I get misdirected text. "Dad I will be there in a hour." I just delete them. I don't use text messages at all. -- |
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On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 07:33:02 -0700, Oren wrote:
On 03 Aug 2012 22:09:58 GMT, FlavorFlav wrote: The spammers are now calling my cell phone. I got a text the other day wanting to know if I had any "models" (female) available. Now and then I get misdirected text. "Dad I will be there in a hour." I just delete them. I don't use text messages at all. But they still cost you real money. |
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I have a rarely-used cell phone which I utilize to block
land-line (well, ATT Uverse) incoming calls. I never had caller ID until UVerse, and found that it also gives you a "caller forwarding" feature. Only 20 numbers total, but that's a start. I didn't really want the numbers "blocked" (with a message stating as much), but rather, I just wanted to "aim them" to a number where they would essentially "ring forever". Since my cell phone is ALWAYS turned off (it's for emergency and absolutely-necessary outgoing calls ONLY), when I get an unwanted call, I ascertain its number with caller ID, and then enter it into my specified call-forwarding log, with my always-turned-off cell phone as the number. Never hear from those callers again! |
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On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 10:19:35 -0400, John Albert
wrote: when I get an unwanted call, I ascertain its number with caller ID, and then enter it into my specified call-forwarding log, with my always-turned-off cell phone as the number. Never hear from those callers again! Wouldn't work for me since virtually all my spam calls are from *different* numbers. One call from each number. So after awhile I got tired of adding them to the black list. I read that these are probably robo-dialed with munged caller IDs using voip from out of country and there currently appears to be little defense either legally or technically. My solution was to use a white list Android app with all other numbers banned but that likely wouldn't work for most people. |
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On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 13:34:04 -0500, Hell Toupee wrote:
On 8/2/2012 12:39 PM, Metspitzer wrote: Years ago I put my name on the national no call list. After reporting Card Holder Services to the National Do Not Call Registry web site many times, I bought a phone that blocks phone numbers. The phone still rings once, but then reports "caller blocked" Card Holder Services still call from different numbers. I have even asked several of the callers who I could sleep with to keep them from calling. (I may have phrased it a little differently) They still call. I have asked to speak to the supervisor and they hang up. Anyone think this would work? http://lemberglaw.com/debt-collectio...FQP0nAodPyYAcQ These people are running a phishing scam where they convince you they can get you a lower interest rate on your credit card, and then ask you for your financial information to set it up. Since they're crooks, no, you really can't expect to get their cooperation, and you can't expect them to pay any attention to your complaints. Sadly, they find some victims among the financially desperate, the gullible, and the elderly, who tend to be much more trusting than younger generations. According to a friend of mine whose husband has been investigating them, part of the problem is that as their boiler room employees learn how to run the scam, they go off and start up the same business themselves. That's one of the reasons for all the different phone numbers. Plus the fact that they're boiler room operations, meaning they shut down and start up again using different numbers whenever the law starts to catch up with them. She said something else they'll do, if you keep asking them for information about themselves, is to give you the names and phone numbers of legitimate credit card companies and banks. Gullible people are taken in by that; suspicious people will hang up and call those companies/phone numbers, only to find out they have nothing to do with the scam. Since there's no such thing as content-based killfiles to catch phone spam, the best you can do is hang up as soon as you hear 'Cardholder Services'. Since this is a scam os the sort you described, the OP should contact their state attorney general and file a complaint. The FBI also has on their web page where complaints can be filed online. They ask categories before giving you the proper complaint form, for example, is this an online scam? Is it on the phone, or snail mail, or an actual brick and mortar business, etc.... It's good to post this stuff on a newsgroup so that others know, but if people really want to stop these scams, they need to report these scammers to the officials. If the OP is on the DNC (do not call) list, and got calls, go to the DNC website and file a complaint against Card Holder Services. The fine is up to $700 per call that they make. |
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It's good to post this stuff on a newsgroup so that others know, but if people really want to stop these scams, they need to report these scammers to the officials. If the OP is on the DNC (do not call) list, and got calls, go to the DNC website and file a complaint against Card Holder Services. The fine is up to $700 per call that they make. Calling the state AG does little good. Here is what the Ohio AG sent me back about the one that calls herself Rachael. The Ohio Attorney General's Office is in receipt of the complaint you recently filed regarding unsolicited telephone calls. Specifically, you filed your complaint about unsolicited telephone calls you have been receiving from representatives of card holder services and/ or card member services. Unfortunately, you do not know much information about the callers other than a few names and/ or the telephone numbers reported on your Caller ID display. You would like these calls to stop. The Ohio Attorney General's Consumer Protection Section is charged with enforcing Ohio's consumer protection laws on behalf of our state in its entirety. Telemarketing and sweepstakes fraud and other scams are a persistent problem in not only the State of Ohio, but the entire United States. It has been our experience that individuals who experience these fraudulent activities are often contacted again by fraudsters. We understand your frustration regarding these nuisance calls, but unfortunately our office will not be able to directly assist you in stopping these calls. While the federal do not call registry (http://www.donotcall.gov/, 888-382-1222) is oftentimes useful in stopping unwanted telemarketing calls, it is important to recognize that this registry is only effective when companies check their calling lists against the registry, and only law-abiding companies will do that. Consequently, the do not call registry is not effective in stopping unwanted calls from fraudsters. When fraudulent callers use public telephone lines to make calls, Caller ID can positively identify the call. Unfortunately, today's technology with cell phones and internet telephones, callers can disguise their identity in an effort to defraud or harass consumers. Obviously, when callers are scam artists preying on unwary consumers in an effort to harass them and/ or take their money the state and federal do not call laws will not stop these fraudulent and deceptive business practices. However, complaints such as yours are the source of much of our information and are often an indication of a problem that may warrant investigation. Pursuant to Ohio Revised Code Section 1345.05(A)(7), once the Ohio Attorney General's Office opens an investigation against a particular business, the investigation and the facts developed under that investigation are not public record, so the Ohio Attorney General's Office cannot confirm whether or not a business is under investigation, or one of our potential litigation targets. Investigations will not become public until the Ohio Attorney General's Office takes legal action against that business. The information you have provided has been recorded in our complaint retention system. Thank you for taking the time to write to our office with your concerns, as the information identified in complaints from consumers like you is invaluable to our office. We regret that we cannot assist you in stopping these calls, but we hope that the information contained in this letter has better explained the role of the Ohio Attorney General's Consumer Protection Section. Respectfully, MIKE DEWINE Attorney General of Ohio |
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On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 11:11:11 -0400, "Roanin"
wrote: We regret that we cannot assist you in stopping these calls, but we hope that the information contained in this letter has better explained the role of the Ohio Attorney General's Consumer Protection Section. Respectfully, MIKE DEWINE Attorney General of Ohio I furnished my name and email to the National Do Not Call Registry at least once a week for months listing the new numbers they use and the times they called. If the National Do Not Call Registry can't do anything about the calls, it would be nice to get an email saying.........we feel your pain, instead of just letting people file complaint after complaint. If anyone out there, and I know there are, get these calls, just hang up. You can't win. |
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Metspitzer wrote:
On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 11:11:11 -0400, "Roanin" wrote: We regret that we cannot assist you in stopping these calls, but we hope that the information contained in this letter has better explained the role of the Ohio Attorney General's Consumer Protection Section. Respectfully, MIKE DEWINE Attorney General of Ohio I furnished my name and email to the National Do Not Call Registry at least once a week for months listing the new numbers they use and the times they called. If the National Do Not Call Registry can't do anything about the calls, it would be nice to get an email saying.........we feel your pain, instead of just letting people file complaint after complaint. If anyone out there, and I know there are, get these calls, just hang up. You can't win. An elderly person I know has a feature from the phone company that picks up each call, telling the caller something like "this number does not accept solicitation calls. If you are a solicitor, hang up now. Otherwise, hit 1 to connect". The phone in her home does not ring until that key is hit. Anyone have a way to do this with a modem? |
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On 8/3/2012 11:26 AM, Metspitzer wrote:
On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 11:11:11 -0400, "Roanin" wrote: We regret that we cannot assist you in stopping these calls, but we hope that the information contained in this letter has better explained the role of the Ohio Attorney General's Consumer Protection Section. Respectfully, MIKE DEWINE Attorney General of Ohio I furnished my name and email to the National Do Not Call Registry at least once a week for months listing the new numbers they use and the times they called. If the National Do Not Call Registry can't do anything about the calls, it would be nice to get an email saying.........we feel your pain, instead of just letting people file complaint after complaint. Like the attorney general's letter said: the National Registry is effective in stopping legitimate businesses, or even illegitimate ones, who have a brick and mortar presence in this country. If they can be located, they can be punished. The problem is going after the people who aren't located in the US, or who have no permanent presence here. They are nearly impossible to trace and catch because they are constantly on the move and are concealing their real identities and whereabouts. They don't need a physical presence to convince you to give them your credit card numbers, SSN, and bank account number, and that's what they're after when they phone you. Not only are certain law enforcement agencies looking into this, so are the fraud squads of nearly every major credit card company, because the crooks are using their names and phone numbers to persuade people they're legit. Part of the investigation that my friend's husband is involved in is just collecting bits and pieces of information from these calls and putting them together to try and trace the perps. Everyone gets these calls, so when the investigators get them, they play along, engage the scammers in conversation, and ask certain innocuous-sounding questions. They're gradually tracing these people that way, but it's slow and frustrating, because as fast as you shut one down, three more go into business. It's like whack-a-mole. It's also the phone equivalent of the Nigerian emails. If anyone out there, and I know there are, get these calls, just hang up. You can't win. Exactly. You can't stop the Nigerians, either. By the way, did you know the Nigerian fraudsters have expanded their operations into the US? They use Nigerian immigrants to the US, paying for their college education, then have them get jobs in financial institutions. These people then stole funds via electronic transactions and stole credit card and banking data and sent it all to the gang. One of these rings was busted in the Twin Cities last year. |
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Metspitzer Kilowatt charter.net wrote:
Years ago I put my name on the national no call list. After reporting Card Holder Services to the National Do Not Call Registry web site many times, I bought a phone that blocks phone numbers. The phone still rings once, but then reports "caller blocked" I get the same useless feeling about the Do Not Call List. I don't believe the claim that nothing can be done about it. Where there's a will, there is a way. So I do the same, I just add the number to a contact that has a quiet ring tone. It works okay. Easier than filing a "complaint" for nothing. -- Card Holder Services still call from different numbers. I have even asked several of the callers who I could sleep with to keep them from calling. (I may have phrased it a little differently) They still call. I have asked to speak to the supervisor and they hang up. Anyone think this would work? http://lemberglaw.com/debt-collectio...5.php?gclid=CJ 774627ybECFQP0nAodPyYAcQ |
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"Metspitzer" wrote in message ... Years ago I put my name on the national no call list. After reporting Card Holder Services to the National Do Not Call Registry web site many times, I bought a phone that blocks phone numbers. The phone still rings once, but then reports "caller blocked" Card Holder Services still call from different numbers. I have even asked several of the callers who I could sleep with to keep them from calling. (I may have phrased it a little differently) They still call. I have asked to speak to the supervisor and they hang up. I've found this seems to discourage repeat offenders. http://www.walmart.com/search/search...anned+air+horn |
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I used a police whistle on a caller, about 10 times in a row. She called
back the next day. Left a message on my machine, suggesting I get psych help. I was tempted to call back, and suggest she learn what a rape whistle is. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "tom" wrote in message ... I've found this seems to discourage repeat offenders. http://www.walmart.com/search/search...anned+air+horn |
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"tom" wrote in :
I've found this seems to discourage repeat offenders. http://www.walmart.com/search/search...anned+air+horn How effective is it against recorded messages? |
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"Doug Miller" wrote in message . .. "tom" wrote in : I've found this seems to discourage repeat offenders. http://www.walmart.com/search/search...anned+air+horn How effective is it against recorded messages? 1st line of defense: http://www.phonetray.com/phonetrayfree.htm |
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 15:32:49 -0500, "tom" wrote:
"Doug Miller" wrote in message ... "tom" wrote in : I've found this seems to discourage repeat offenders. http://www.walmart.com/search/search...anned+air+horn How effective is it against recorded messages? 1st line of defense: http://www.phonetray.com/phonetrayfree.htm I may have to break out a modem for this. Thanks |
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 15:32:49 -0500, "tom" wrote:
"Doug Miller" wrote in message ... "tom" wrote in : I've found this seems to discourage repeat offenders. http://www.walmart.com/search/search...anned+air+horn How effective is it against recorded messages? 1st line of defense: http://www.phonetray.com/phonetrayfree.htm I had 6 modems laying around. I can't see very well, but it was pretty easy to guess which was the most modern. http://i.imgur.com/Cnxgw.jpg |
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 15:32:49 -0500, "tom" wrote:
"Doug Miller" wrote in message ... "tom" wrote in : I've found this seems to discourage repeat offenders. http://www.walmart.com/search/search...anned+air+horn How effective is it against recorded messages? 1st line of defense: http://www.phonetray.com/phonetrayfree.htm The phonetray manual is misleading. The manual shows phonetray free with blocking options. I just downloaded the software and it seems to be only a caller ID reporter. No blocking options. You may have to receive a phone call to make those options show up, but where the blocking options should be I get a link to get the "Pro" version. And..........it looks like Phonetray Pro is not yet ready. |
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On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 23:36:40 -0400, Metspitzer
wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 15:32:49 -0500, "tom" wrote: "Doug Miller" wrote in message 0... "tom" wrote in : I've found this seems to discourage repeat offenders. http://www.walmart.com/search/search...anned+air+horn How effective is it against recorded messages? 1st line of defense: http://www.phonetray.com/phonetrayfree.htm The phonetray manual is misleading. The manual shows phonetray free with blocking options. I just downloaded the software and it seems to be only a caller ID reporter. No blocking options. You may have to receive a phone call to make those options show up, but where the blocking options should be I get a link to get the "Pro" version. And..........it looks like Phonetray Pro is not yet ready. I figured how to enable the block..............never mind. |
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 15:32:49 -0500, "tom" wrote:
"Doug Miller" wrote in message ... "tom" wrote in : I've found this seems to discourage repeat offenders. http://www.walmart.com/search/search...anned+air+horn How effective is it against recorded messages? 1st line of defense: http://www.phonetray.com/phonetrayfree.htm I hope this works. There were two calls from them already stored on the caller ID. Since I have my main phone set up to block these two numbers I didn't bother to enter the number into the software. I did enter the name from the caller ID. It is supposed to automatically play a "not in service" recording. We will have to just wait and see if it works. Now I am looking forward to their next call. http://imgur.com/5ZKj3 From reading a little more about Cardholders Services on the web, a "not in service" message may get the number taken off the list. One can only hope. Thanks BTW the default setting for phonetray is to play a recording for "toll free" I actually get important calls from two places that report "toll free" on the caller ID. I changed that default setting to accept calls from "toll free" |
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"Metspitzer" wrote in message ... 1st line of defense: http://www.phonetray.com/phonetrayfree.htm I hope this works. There were two calls from them already stored on the caller ID. Since I have my main phone set up to block these two numbers I didn't bother to enter the number into the software. I did enter the name from the caller ID. It is supposed to automatically play a "not in service" recording. We will have to just wait and see if it works. Now I am looking forward to their next call. In all honesty I use the program below. I got the license key from a friend who purchased it. I mentioned PT because I've always thought PT seemed as good or better, and is free, but I've never switched over to it. http://www.beiley.com/acallerid/index.html |
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On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 13:39:53 -0400, Metspitzer
wrote: Do not answer the calls. Simple enough, right? -- |
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On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 13:13:01 -0700, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 13:39:53 -0400, Metspitzer wrote: Do not answer the calls. Simple enough, right? Don't have a land line. |
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On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 17:15:37 -0400, "
wrote: On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 13:13:01 -0700, Oren wrote: On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 13:39:53 -0400, Metspitzer wrote: Do not answer the calls. Simple enough, right? Don't have a land line. If I did that I wouldn't know when there is an election year. sigh -- |
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On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 14:36:23 -0700, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 17:15:37 -0400, " wrote: On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 13:13:01 -0700, Oren wrote: On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 13:39:53 -0400, Metspitzer wrote: Do not answer the calls. Simple enough, right? Don't have a land line. If I did that I wouldn't know when there is an election year. www.drudgereport.com |
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Oren wrote:
On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 13:39:53 -0400, Metspitzer wrote: Do not answer the calls. Simple enough, right? -- I have been getting a bunch of calls lately. Some months ago, I got calls from politicians, and some things I belong to. I usually let the a answering machine come on, then it goes to dial tone. Been getting more calls, including from local area code. Sometimes I pick up, then put down. Then there is the free security system, card holders, etc. I get caller I'd on tv, but some are getting through with name unavailable, which I may have to make sure that feature is enabled to block those calls. Greg |
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