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Another reason to prohibit cops from carrying guns. If only one life could
be saved!


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On 7/22/2012 3:11 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
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Another reason to prohibit cops from carrying guns. If only one life could
be saved!


Several thousand each year.




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"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
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Just shows the mentality of halfwits who carry guns. Paranoiac and fearful.

"harryagain" wrote in message
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Another reason to prohibit cops from carrying guns. If only one life
could
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Just shows the mentality of halfwits who carry guns. Paranoiac and
fearful.


When one considers that the police shoot nearly 6 times as many innocent
bystanders as armed citizens, while armed citizens shoot more than twice as
many criminals, one has to wonder who the ignorant halfwits really are

harryagain wrote:

Just shows the mentality of halfwits who carry guns. Paranoiac and
fearful.

Hmm. I guess I'm beyond the pale: I carry TWO guns. I carry a standard 9mm
weapon (a CZ-75) for personal protection and a .22 revolver as my BUG (Back
Up Gun).

Since 1995, when the concealed weapon law went into effect in my state, I've
displayed my weapon three times to discourage a quite possible assault or
robbery. Admittedly, two of these incidents were in disreputable venues (a
Home Depot parking lot).

So far, I haven't had to shoot anyone (does shooting a hippie count?), but
by the same metric no periwinkle has shot or robbed me.

"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
harryagain wrote:

Just shows the mentality of halfwits who carry guns. Paranoiac and
fearful.

Hmm. I guess I'm beyond the pale: I carry TWO guns. I carry a standard 9mm
weapon (a CZ-75) for personal protection and a .22 revolver as my BUG
(Back Up Gun).

Since 1995, when the concealed weapon law went into effect in my state,
I've displayed my weapon three times to discourage a quite possible
assault or robbery. Admittedly, two of these incidents were in
disreputable venues (a Home Depot parking lot).

So far, I haven't had to shoot anyone (does shooting a hippie count?), but
by the same metric no periwinkle has shot or robbed me.


I only did it once when two individuals were making a beeline for me from 2
different directions, in a parking lot, late a night.
Interestingly, as soon as a turned to face both of them and very obviously
drew my gun to a low carry, they immediately , and in perfect
synchronization, changed direction and boogied off at speed on a path
perpendicular to their original directions
..
That was clear confirmation of my initial estimate that their intentions
were not friendly.

HeyBub wrote:

Just shows the mentality of halfwits who carry guns. Paranoiac
and fearful.

I carry TWO guns. I carry a standard 9mm weapon (a CZ-75) for
personal protection and a .22 revolver as my BUG (Back Up Gun).

I bet it gave you a hard-on just saying that.

So far, I haven't had to shoot anyone

So what you're basically saying is that your goal in life is to be the
next George Zimmerman...

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:09:02 -0400, Root wrote:

So what you're basically saying is that your goal in life is to be the
next George Zimmerman...

George Zimmerman deserves a medal for ridding the world of a piece of
crap!

"Root" wrote in message ...
HeyBub wrote:

Just shows the mentality of halfwits who carry guns. Paranoiac
and fearful.

I carry TWO guns. I carry a standard 9mm weapon (a CZ-75) for
personal protection and a .22 revolver as my BUG (Back Up Gun).

I bet it gave you a hard-on just saying that.


Funny how so many hoplophobes have fantasies about other people's sexual
responses


So far, I haven't had to shoot anyone

So what you're basically saying is that your goal in life is to be the
next George Zimmerman...

Nope
A paranoid ****head hoplphobe, namely you, said that

Root wrote in :

HeyBub wrote:

Just shows the mentality of halfwits who carry guns. Paranoiac
and fearful.

I carry TWO guns. I carry a standard 9mm weapon (a CZ-75) for
personal protection and a .22 revolver as my BUG (Back Up Gun).

I bet it gave you a hard-on just saying that.

seems the anti-gun folks always connect guns to penises.
sounds like projection to me.

So far, I haven't had to shoot anyone

So what you're basically saying is that your goal in life is to be the
next George Zimmerman...


Trayvon was caught at his Miami school with a "burglar tool" and a dozen
pieces of womens jewelry in his backpack. So it is very probable that he
WAS casing homes to burgle,and got angry when he found he was being watched
by Zimmerman. It would explain the violent attack,and also accounts for why
he was "acting suspiciously" and roaming around the neighborhood at night.
The "skittles and tea" was probably a convenient excuse to go out after
dark.
Trayvon was NOT a "good kid",he was bad enough to have been suspended from
school several times,and bad enough his mom shipped him from Miami to
Sanford so his "father" could keep him in line. HARDLY "innocent".


I also learned that Trayvon's "father" was out on the town with his GF that
night,and "home alone" Trayvon apparently was NOT grounded(or violated his
grounding),and decided to make a trip to the 7-11.
Amazing that a "father" would not ground his son after his being suspended
from school AGAIN,this time for a whole
week,and apparently bad enough that his "mom" shipped him off to Sanford.
I also wonder if the "parents" were told by the school of their finding the
burglar tool and jewelry in Trayvon's backpack.


--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

Gordon Shumway wrote in
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:09:02 -0400, Root wrote:

So what you're basically saying is that your goal in life is to be the
next George Zimmerman...

George Zimmerman deserves a medal for ridding the world of a piece of
crap!


AGREED!.

Trayvon was caught at his Miami school with a "burglar tool" and a dozen
pieces of womens jewelry in his backpack. So it is very probable that he
WAS casing homes to burgle,and got angry when he found he was being watched
by Zimmerman. It would explain the violent attack,and also accounts for why
he was "acting suspiciously" and roaming around the neighborhood at night.
The "skittles and tea" was probably a convenient excuse to go out after
dark.
Trayvon was NOT a "good kid",he was bad enough to have been suspended from
school several times,and bad enough his mom shipped him from Miami to
Sanford so his "father" could keep him in line. HARDLY "innocent".

I also learned that Trayvon's "father" was out on the town with his GF that
night,and "home alone" Trayvon apparently was NOT grounded(or violated his
grounding),and decided to make a trip to the 7-11.
Amazing that a "father" would not ground his son after his being suspended
from school AGAIN,this time for a whole week,and apparently bad enough that
his "mom" shipped him off to Sanford.
I also wonder if the "parents" were told by the school of their finding the
burglar tool and jewelry in Trayvon's backpack.

then there's the matter of Trayvon's gold "grill";
starting cost is $600-1000 for a basic set. Then add in several tattoos at
about $50 a pop,and that's some serious money for an unemployed 17 yr old.
Maybe he paid for all that with proceeds from stolen jewelry?
I doubt his mom is going to hand over that sort of cash to the kid.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:53:00 -0500, "Atila Iskander"
wrote:


"Root" wrote in message ...
HeyBub wrote:

Just shows the mentality of halfwits who carry guns. Paranoiac
and fearful.

I carry TWO guns. I carry a standard 9mm weapon (a CZ-75) for
personal protection and a .22 revolver as my BUG (Back Up Gun).

I bet it gave you a hard-on just saying that.


Funny how so many hoplophobes have fantasies about other people's sexual
responses


So far, I haven't had to shoot anyone

So what you're basically saying is that your goal in life is to be the
next George Zimmerman...

Nope
A paranoid ****head hoplphobe, namely you, said that


Do you expect anything different from Home Guy?
--

On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:11:17 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
Another reason to prohibit cops from carrying guns. If only one life could
be saved!


Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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And what does this have to do with home repair?

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:26:29 -0500, wrote:

And what does this have to do with home repair?

About as much as your recent episodes of nym-shifting.
--

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:28:18 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote:

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:09:02 -0400, Root wrote:

HeyBub wrote:

Just shows the mentality of halfwits who carry guns. Paranoiac
and fearful.

I carry TWO guns. I carry a standard 9mm weapon (a CZ-75) for
personal protection and a .22 revolver as my BUG (Back Up Gun).

I bet it gave you a hard-on just saying that.

So far, I haven't had to shoot anyone

So what you're basically saying is that your goal in life is to be the
next George Zimmerman...


So Root doesnt have smoke detectors in his home, fire extinguishers, and
refuses to wear his seatbelt.

Isn't "Root" HomoGay?

Is that your claim?

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:04:28 -0400, "
wrote:

Isn't "Root" HomoGay?


I attest to the veracity of your report.
--

"Oren" wrote in message ...
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:04:28 -0400, "
wrote:

Isn't "Root" HomoGay?


I attest to the veracity of your report.
--

2 * 0 = 0

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:01:55 -0400, "Guy Houseman"
wrote:


"Oren" wrote in message ...
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:04:28 -0400, "
wrote:

Isn't "Root" HomoGay?


I attest to the veracity of your report.
--

2 * 0 = 0

is your neuron getting lonely again, HomoGay?

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:28:18 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

So Root doesnt have smoke detectors in his home, fire extinguishers, and
refuses to wear his seatbelt.

Don't get Home Guy started....

He never ****ed in a sink, never had HVAC components in an attic.
Became a public liar here and steals Smurf movies off the web.


I bet he never **** over the gunnels on a fishing boat or an oak log.
--

Root wrote:
HeyBub wrote:

Just shows the mentality of halfwits who carry guns. Paranoiac
and fearful.

I carry TWO guns. I carry a standard 9mm weapon (a CZ-75) for
personal protection and a .22 revolver as my BUG (Back Up Gun).

I bet it gave you a hard-on just saying that.

So what? Different strokes and all that...


So far, I haven't had to shoot anyone

So what you're basically saying is that your goal in life is to be the
next George Zimmerman...

Well, no. Zimmerman showed considerably more restraint that I would or would
normal care dictate. For example, I wouldn't let some goblin hit me in the
nose or bash my head against the concrete before I canceled his ticket.

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:29:02 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote:

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:04:28 -0400, "
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:28:18 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote:

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:09:02 -0400, Root wrote:

HeyBub wrote:

Just shows the mentality of halfwits who carry guns. Paranoiac
and fearful.

I carry TWO guns. I carry a standard 9mm weapon (a CZ-75) for
personal protection and a .22 revolver as my BUG (Back Up Gun).

I bet it gave you a hard-on just saying that.

So far, I haven't had to shoot anyone

So what you're basically saying is that your goal in life is to be the
next George Zimmerman...


So Root doesnt have smoke detectors in his home, fire extinguishers, and
refuses to wear his seatbelt.

Isn't "Root" HomoGay?

Is that your claim?


Who cares? He is a far leftwing extremist fringe kook..and thats what
will kill him.

Worse, it's a Canuckistani.

HeyBub wrote:

Well, no. Zimmerman showed considerably more restraint that I would or
would normal care dictate. For example, I wouldn't let some goblin hit me
in the nose or bash my head against the concrete before I canceled his
ticket.

A prosecutor would find that sound bite fascinating...

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:53:47 -0500, "Atila Iskander"
wrote:


"HeyBub" wrote in message
om...
harryagain wrote:

Just shows the mentality of halfwits who carry guns. Paranoiac and
fearful.

Hmm. I guess I'm beyond the pale: I carry TWO guns. I carry a standard 9mm
weapon (a CZ-75) for personal protection and a .22 revolver as my BUG
(Back Up Gun).

Since 1995, when the concealed weapon law went into effect in my state,
I've displayed my weapon three times to discourage a quite possible
assault or robbery. Admittedly, two of these incidents were in
disreputable venues (a Home Depot parking lot).

So far, I haven't had to shoot anyone (does shooting a hippie count?), but
by the same metric no periwinkle has shot or robbed me.


I only did it once when two individuals were making a beeline for me from 2
different directions, in a parking lot, late a night.
Interestingly, as soon as a turned to face both of them and very obviously
drew my gun to a low carry, they immediately , and in perfect
synchronization, changed direction and boogied off at speed on a path
perpendicular to their original directions
.
That was clear confirmation of my initial estimate that their intentions
were not friendly.



Unfortunately, had they not been of criminal intent but just other
people out walking it possible that they could have gotten all upset
when you showed the gun, called the police, and had you arrested for
threatening them by showing them your gun.

On Jul 24, 1:29*pm, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:53:47 -0500, "Atila Iskander"



Unfortunately, had they not been of criminal intent but just other
people out walking it possible that they could have gotten all upset
when you showed the gun, called the police, and had you arrested for
threatening them by showing them your gun.

It takes more than showing a gun in my state. I had a teenager pull a
shotgun on me, barrel pointing right at my belly. The situation
diffused & I called the cops. Cops asked "But did he actually *say*
he was going to shoot you?" When I said "no" the cop said "Sorry,
nothing I can do." Obvious intent trumped by lack of verbal
statement.

"Ashton Crusher" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:53:47 -0500, "Atila Iskander"
wrote:


"HeyBub" wrote in message
news:FeWdnbeKyOLN2pDNnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@earthlink. com...
harryagain wrote:

Just shows the mentality of halfwits who carry guns. Paranoiac and
fearful.

Hmm. I guess I'm beyond the pale: I carry TWO guns. I carry a standard
9mm
weapon (a CZ-75) for personal protection and a .22 revolver as my BUG
(Back Up Gun).

Since 1995, when the concealed weapon law went into effect in my state,
I've displayed my weapon three times to discourage a quite possible
assault or robbery. Admittedly, two of these incidents were in
disreputable venues (a Home Depot parking lot).

So far, I haven't had to shoot anyone (does shooting a hippie count?),
but
by the same metric no periwinkle has shot or robbed me.


I only did it once when two individuals were making a beeline for me from
2
different directions, in a parking lot, late a night.
Interestingly, as soon as a turned to face both of them and very obviously
drew my gun to a low carry, they immediately , and in perfect
synchronization, changed direction and boogied off at speed on a path
perpendicular to their original directions
.
That was clear confirmation of my initial estimate that their intentions
were not friendly.



Unfortunately, had they not been of criminal intent but just other
people out walking it possible that they could have gotten all upset
when you showed the gun, called the police, and had you arrested for
threatening them by showing them your gun.

Possible but frankly not of consideration.
1) There were no other cars near my car
2) There were no other exits near my car
3) They had no business making a beeline for me from 2 different
directions.
4) They were not dressed in any fashion that justified their presence
there
5) They were no dressed in any fashion that made me believe they had any
legal business with me
6) Their sudden almost synchronized change of direction at me reaching
for my gun was confirmation enough that they were not approaching me to ask
for a light

And frankly as soon as they skedaddled, I drove away.
So the cops would have had a hard time identifying me or my car.
At best, they would be able to claim it was a station-wagon.

Not to mention that it would be a hard sell for the police to charge me with
threatening just because I unholstered and held the gun to my leg pointing
to the ground.
My lawyer ,who happens to be a shootist, and also was a prosecutor for over
20 years, is the one who suggested that to be the first step in case I felt
threatened.
And I'll take his advice over yours any day.

"Red" wrote in message
...
On Jul 24, 1:29 pm, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:53:47 -0500, "Atila Iskander"



Unfortunately, had they not been of criminal intent but just other
people out walking it possible that they could have gotten all upset
when you showed the gun, called the police, and had you arrested for
threatening them by showing them your gun.

It takes more than showing a gun in my state. I had a teenager pull a
shotgun on me, barrel pointing right at my belly. The situation
diffused & I called the cops. Cops asked "But did he actually *say*
he was going to shoot you?" When I said "no" the cop said "Sorry,
nothing I can do." Obvious intent trumped by lack of verbal
statement.


Wow
That is exactly why my lawyer made the suggestion of drawing but holding
the gun against your leg pointing at the ground.
It's hard to infer intent when clearly the gun is NOT pointed at someone.

On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 18:18:15 -0500, "Atila Iskander"
wrote:

It's hard to infer intent when clearly the gun is NOT pointed at someone.


The sound of chambering a .12 GA. shot shell is an attention 'gitter'.

Point is later. Fire at will is shortly thereafter.

"Git off my lawn!!"

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On 7/24/2012 6:35 PM, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 18:18:15 -0500, "Atila Iskander"
wrote:

It's hard to infer intent when clearly the gun is NOT pointed at someone.


The sound of chambering a .12 GA. shot shell is an attention 'gitter'.

Point is later. Fire at will is shortly thereafter.

"Git off my lawn!!"

Particularly since a .12 Gauge is more commonly called an 8 pounder
crew served cannon.

A 12 ga. is a shoulder fired personal firearm.

You know, David, you have a point.

Christopher A. Young
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"David J. Hughes" wrote in message
...

The sound of chambering a .12 GA. shot shell is an attention 'gitter'.


Particularly since a .12 Gauge is more commonly called an 8 pounder
crew served cannon.

A 12 ga. is a shoulder fired personal firearm.

On 7/24/2012 9:29 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
You know, David, you have a point.

Christopher A. Young
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"David J. Hughes" wrote in message
...

The sound of chambering a .12 GA. shot shell is an attention 'gitter'.


Particularly since a .12 Gauge is more commonly called an 8 pounder
crew served cannon.

A 12 ga. is a shoulder fired personal firearm.




Punny , Stormin

Wasn't sure if you'd catch the pun. Thanks, glad you did.

Freedom: "One nation, undecimal, under God...."

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"David J. Hughes" wrote in message
...
On 7/24/2012 9:29 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
You know, David, you have a point.


Punny , Stormin

On Jul 23, 7:45 am, "HeyBub" wrote:


So far, I haven't had to shoot anyone (does shooting a hippie count?), but
by the same metric no periwinkle has shot or robbed me.

That reminds me of the line in "Young Guns" when Billy the Kids
says" I've killed 26 men, not counting Mexicans and Indians "........

Ashton Crusher wrote:


Unfortunately, had they not been of criminal intent but just other
people out walking it possible that they could have gotten all upset
when you showed the gun, called the police, and had you arrested for
threatening them by showing them your gun.

On two of the three occasions I had to display my weapon, *I* was the one
who called the police.

Both times the cops volunteered that I did the right thing (by displaying
the weapon).

Atila Iskander wrote:

Not to mention that it would be a hard sell for the police to charge
me with threatening just because I unholstered and held the gun to my
leg pointing to the ground.
My lawyer ,who happens to be a shootist, and also was a prosecutor
for over 20 years, is the one who suggested that to be the first step
in case I felt threatened.
And I'll take his advice over yours any day.

Yep. The "offense" is in the mind of the beholder. In your case it matters
not that the two people were soliciting contributions to the Home For Abused
Otters. What YOU saw and concluded is the ONLY thing that matters.

If, of course, your apprehension agreed with the "reasonable man" test...

"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
Atila Iskander wrote:

Not to mention that it would be a hard sell for the police to charge
me with threatening just because I unholstered and held the gun to my
leg pointing to the ground.
My lawyer ,who happens to be a shootist, and also was a prosecutor
for over 20 years, is the one who suggested that to be the first step
in case I felt threatened.
And I'll take his advice over yours any day.

Yep. The "offense" is in the mind of the beholder. In your case it matters
not that the two people were soliciting contributions to the Home For
Abused Otters. What YOU saw and concluded is the ONLY thing that matters.


LOL
We were just discussing a running gag in the series Due South, where the
main character acquired a scar on his chest, while in grade school, because
another student has swung a dead otter at him..

Atila Iskander wrote:

"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
Atila Iskander wrote:

Not to mention that it would be a hard sell for the police to charge
me with threatening just because I unholstered and held the gun to my
leg pointing to the ground.
My lawyer ,who happens to be a shootist, and also was a prosecutor
for over 20 years, is the one who suggested that to be the first step
in case I felt threatened.
And I'll take his advice over yours any day.

Yep. The "offense" is in the mind of the beholder. In your case it matters
not that the two people were soliciting contributions to the Home For
Abused Otters. What YOU saw and concluded is the ONLY thing that matters.


LOL
We were just discussing a running gag in the series Due South, where the
main character acquired a scar on his chest, while in grade school, because
another student has swung a dead otter at him..


He 'otter' know better than to take offense!