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My tar shingle roof is sloped north-south.
Prevailing winds are easterly.

The paint under the north-east edge of the roof peels faster than anywhere
else.
This indicates that water is being pushed over the edge and trickles down
the trim and the brick on the east wall.
This is supported by the fact that the wood trim around the windows is
also being rotted away

I was thinking of nailing an L-shaped piece of metal or plastic along the
edge, to create a small barrier so that rain, on hitting the barrier, will
be guided down the roof slope to the gutters, instead of rolling over the
edge and running down the east wall.

Does this make sense ?
Is this a viable solution ?
What kind of L-shaped barrier should be used ?



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My tar shingle roof is sloped north-south.
* * Prevailing winds are easterly.

The paint under the north-east edge of the roof peels faster than anywhere
else.
This indicates that water is being pushed over the edge and trickles down
the trim and the brick on the east wall.
* * This is supported by the fact that the wood trim around the windows is
also being rotted away

I was thinking of nailing an L-shaped piece of metal or plastic along the
edge, to create a small barrier so that rain, on hitting the barrier, *will
be guided down the roof slope to the gutters, instead of rolling over the
edge and running down the east wall.

Does this make sense ?
Is this a viable solution ?
What kind of L-shaped barrier should be used ?


Without seeing the situation I can still say that your hypothesis is
flawed. Assuming a typical gable roof, why would only one corner have
that problem when the roof has four such corners? I would bet dollars
to donuts that it's not the water running off that's the problem -
that happens at all four corners, it's the water running off and not
_drying_ on that corner that is the problem. Part of that is your
prevailing winds, and part of that is the sun doing it's sun thing.

Take some pictures of the corner in question, and another corner or
two as reference, and post them on one of the free hosting sites, then
post the link(s) back here and we'll take a look.

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My tar shingle roof is sloped north-south.
Prevailing winds are easterly.

The paint under the north-east edge of the roof peels faster than
anywhere
else.
This indicates that water is being pushed over the edge and trickles down
the trim and the brick on the east wall.
This is supported by the fact that the wood trim around the windows
is
also being rotted away

I was thinking of nailing an L-shaped piece of metal or plastic along the
edge, to create a small barrier so that rain, on hitting the barrier,
will
be guided down the roof slope to the gutters, instead of rolling over the
edge and running down the east wall.

Does this make sense ?
Is this a viable solution ?
What kind of L-shaped barrier should be used ?


Without seeing the situation I can still say that your hypothesis is
flawed. Assuming a typical gable roof, why would only one corner have
that problem when the roof has four such corners? I would bet dollars
to donuts that it's not the water running off that's the problem -
that happens at all four corners, it's the water running off and not
_drying_ on that corner that is the problem. Part of that is your
prevailing winds, and part of that is the sun doing it's sun thing.

Take some pictures of the corner in question, and another corner or
two as reference, and post them on one of the free hosting sites, then
post the link(s) back here and we'll take a look.



You misunderstand
Not "one corner"
It's ONE SIDE. with one HALF-side being more damaged

The roof is an A with one side facing North, the other South. The ridge runs
East-West.
The whole East side trim has flaking paint.
But far more on the North-East side, than the South-East side of the East
wall.




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Atila Iskander wrote:
My tar shingle roof is sloped north-south.
Prevailing winds are easterly.

The paint under the north-east edge of the roof peels faster than
anywhere else.
This indicates that water is being pushed over the edge and trickles
down the trim and the brick on the east wall.
This is supported by the fact that the wood trim around the
windows is also being rotted away

I was thinking of nailing an L-shaped piece of metal or plastic along
the edge, to create a small barrier so that rain, on hitting the
barrier, will be guided down the roof slope to the gutters, instead
of rolling over the edge and running down the east wall.

Does this make sense ?
Is this a viable solution ?
What kind of L-shaped barrier should be used ?


My garage has a metal edge that has a lip maybe 3/8" high on the edge of the
roofing to direct the water down the roofing. The outside of that lip forms a 2"
drop with the bottom 1/4" bent out to drip water away from the rafter at the end
of the roof. The roofing lies over the metal, and the paper is under it.

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"RicodJour" wrote:
On Jul 15, 11:21 am, "Atila Iskander"
wrote:

My tar shingle roof is sloped north-south.
Prevailing winds are easterly.

The paint under the north-east edge of the roof peels faster than
anywhere
else.
This indicates that water is being pushed over the edge and trickles down
the trim and the brick on the east wall.
This is supported by the fact that the wood trim around the windows
is
also being rotted away

I was thinking of nailing an L-shaped piece of metal or plastic along the
edge, to create a small barrier so that rain, on hitting the barrier,
will
be guided down the roof slope to the gutters, instead of rolling over the
edge and running down the east wall.

Does this make sense ?
Is this a viable solution ?
What kind of L-shaped barrier should be used ?


Without seeing the situation I can still say that your hypothesis is
flawed. Assuming a typical gable roof, why would only one corner have
that problem when the roof has four such corners? I would bet dollars
to donuts that it's not the water running off that's the problem -
that happens at all four corners, it's the water running off and not
_drying_ on that corner that is the problem. Part of that is your
prevailing winds, and part of that is the sun doing it's sun thing.

Take some pictures of the corner in question, and another corner or
two as reference, and post them on one of the free hosting sites, then
post the link(s) back here and we'll take a look.



You misunderstand
Not "one corner"
It's ONE SIDE. with one HALF-side being more damaged


That's pretty much what I pictured. Post pictures.

The roof is an A with one side facing North, the other South. The ridge runs
East-West.
The whole East side trim has flaking paint.
But far more on the North-East side, than the South-East side of the East
wall.


Which is pretty much what I pictured and coincides with what I said.
Post pictures. Thanks.

R


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Atila Iskander wrote:
My tar shingle roof is sloped north-south.
Prevailing winds are easterly.

The paint under the north-east edge of the roof peels faster than
anywhere else.
This indicates that water is being pushed over the edge and trickles
down the trim and the brick on the east wall.
This is supported by the fact that the wood trim around the
windows is also being rotted away

I was thinking of nailing an L-shaped piece of metal or plastic along
the edge, to create a small barrier so that rain, on hitting the
barrier, will be guided down the roof slope to the gutters, instead
of rolling over the edge and running down the east wall.

Does this make sense ?
Is this a viable solution ?
What kind of L-shaped barrier should be used ?


My garage has a metal edge that has a lip maybe 3/8" high on the edge of
the roofing to direct the water down the roofing. The outside of that lip
forms a 2" drop with the bottom 1/4" bent out to drip water away from the
rafter at the end of the roof. The roofing lies over the metal, and the
paper is under it.


Sounds exactly like what I had in mind
Was it custom made for the job ?
Or was it of the shelf ?


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Atila Iskander wrote:
My tar shingle roof is sloped north-south.
Prevailing winds are easterly.

The paint under the north-east edge of the roof peels faster than
anywhere else.
This indicates that water is being pushed over the edge and trickles
down the trim and the brick on the east wall.
This is supported by the fact that the wood trim around the
windows is also being rotted away

I was thinking of nailing an L-shaped piece of metal or plastic
along the edge, to create a small barrier so that rain, on hitting
the barrier, will be guided down the roof slope to the gutters,
instead of rolling over the edge and running down the east wall.

Does this make sense ?
Is this a viable solution ?
What kind of L-shaped barrier should be used ?


My garage has a metal edge that has a lip maybe 3/8" high on the
edge of the roofing to direct the water down the roofing. The
outside of that lip forms a 2" drop with the bottom 1/4" bent out to
drip water away from the rafter at the end of the roof. The roofing
lies over the metal, and the paper is under it.


Sounds exactly like what I had in mind
Was it custom made for the job ?
Or was it of the shelf ?


I didn't do the job myself, but it looks like a standard roofing item. I'd check
at a roofing supply store. That roof is a torchdown roof, which probably helps
seal the roofing/metal connection, so it could be designed for that.
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Atila Iskander wrote:
"Bob F" wrote :
Atila Iskander wrote:


My tar shingle roof is sloped north-south.
Prevailing winds are easterly.

The paint under the north-east edge of the roof peels faster than
anywhere else.
This indicates that water is being pushed over the edge and trickles
down the trim and the brick on the east wall.
This is supported by the fact that the wood trim around the
windows is also being rotted away

I was thinking of nailing an L-shaped piece of metal or plastic
along the edge, to create a small barrier so that rain, on hitting
the barrier, will be guided down the roof slope to the gutters,
instead of rolling over the edge and running down the east wall.

Does this make sense ?
Is this a viable solution ?
What kind of L-shaped barrier should be used ?

My garage has a metal edge that has a lip maybe 3/8" high on the
edge of the roofing to direct the water down the roofing. The
outside of that lip forms a 2" drop with the bottom 1/4" bent out to
drip water away from the rafter at the end of the roof. The roofing
lies over the metal, and the paper is under it.


Sounds exactly like what I had in mind
Was it custom made for the job ?
Or was it of the shelf ?


I didn't do the job myself, but it looks like a standard roofing item. I'd check
at a roofing supply store. That roof is a torchdown roof, which probably helps
seal the roofing/metal connection, so it could be designed for that.


The OP has a gable roof, not a flat/low-slope roof, and shingles are a
far different animal than adhered-membrane roofing used on flat
roofs. The metal drip edges are not interchangeable, and the one on
your roof would channel water under the shingles if used on his. Of
course the whole edge of the roof could be ripped up to make the thing
work, but that's a ridiculous amount of work for something that in all
likelihood has nothing whatsoever to do with the drip edge.

The OP definitely has a climactic/exposure issue, and almost assuredly
not a roofing problem. He's not complaining about leaks, he's
complaining about peeling paint and rotten window trim - which is also
most assuredly not a drip edge problem as the OP mentioned it's a
brick wall. If the water was getting under the roof and behind the
brick water damage would be showing up inside.

To verify this I've asked for pictures. I realize that that would
take a superhuman effort to actually go outside and snap off a couple
and post them, but my hope springs eternal.

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Atila Iskander wrote:
"RicodJour" wrote:
On Jul 15, 11:21 am, "Atila Iskander"
wrote:

My tar shingle roof is sloped north-south.
Prevailing winds are easterly.

The paint under the north-east edge of the roof peels faster than
anywhere
else.
This indicates that water is being pushed over the edge and trickles
down
the trim and the brick on the east wall.
This is supported by the fact that the wood trim around the
windows
is
also being rotted away

I was thinking of nailing an L-shaped piece of metal or plastic along
the
edge, to create a small barrier so that rain, on hitting the barrier,
will
be guided down the roof slope to the gutters, instead of rolling over
the
edge and running down the east wall.

Does this make sense ?
Is this a viable solution ?
What kind of L-shaped barrier should be used ?

Without seeing the situation I can still say that your hypothesis is
flawed. Assuming a typical gable roof, why would only one corner have
that problem when the roof has four such corners? I would bet dollars
to donuts that it's not the water running off that's the problem -
that happens at all four corners, it's the water running off and not
_drying_ on that corner that is the problem. Part of that is your
prevailing winds, and part of that is the sun doing it's sun thing.

Take some pictures of the corner in question, and another corner or
two as reference, and post them on one of the free hosting sites, then
post the link(s) back here and we'll take a look.



You misunderstand
Not "one corner"
It's ONE SIDE. with one HALF-side being more damaged


That's pretty much what I pictured. Post pictures.

The roof is an A with one side facing North, the other South. The ridge
runs
East-West.
The whole East side trim has flaking paint.
But far more on the North-East side, than the South-East side of the East
wall.


Which is pretty much what I pictured and coincides with what I said.
Post pictures. Thanks.


Since when are sides = corners ?



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On Jul 15, 7:31*pm, "Atila Iskander" wrote:
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Atila Iskander wrote:
"RicodJour" wrote:
On Jul 15, 11:21 am, "Atila Iskander"
wrote:


My tar shingle roof is sloped north-south.
* * Prevailing winds are easterly.


The paint under the north-east edge of the roof peels faster than
anywhere
else.
This indicates that water is being pushed over the edge and trickles
down
the trim and the brick on the east wall.
* * This is supported by the fact that the wood trim around the
windows
is
also being rotted away


I was thinking of nailing an L-shaped piece of metal or plastic along
the
edge, to create a small barrier so that rain, on hitting the barrier,
will
be guided down the roof slope to the gutters, instead of rolling over
the
edge and running down the east wall.


Does this make sense ?
Is this a viable solution ?
What kind of L-shaped barrier should be used ?


Without seeing the situation I can still say that your hypothesis is
flawed. *Assuming a typical gable roof, why would only one corner have
that problem when the roof has four such corners? *I would bet dollars
to donuts that it's not the water running off that's the problem -
that happens at all four corners, it's the water running off and not
_drying_ on that corner that is the problem. *Part of that is your
prevailing winds, and part of that is the sun doing it's sun thing.


Take some pictures of the corner in question, and another corner or
two as reference, and post them on one of the free hosting sites, then
post the link(s) back here and we'll take a look.


You misunderstand
Not "one corner"
* * It's ONE SIDE. with one HALF-side being more damaged


That's pretty much what I pictured. *Post pictures.


The roof is an A with one side facing North, the other South. The ridge
runs
East-West.
The whole East side trim has flaking paint.
But far more on the North-East side, than the South-East side of the East
wall.


Which is pretty much what I pictured and coincides with what I said.
Post pictures. *Thanks.


Since when are sides = corners ?


They aren't.

Post pictures.


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"RicodJour" wrote in message

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Atila Iskander wrote:
"RicodJour" wrote:
On Jul 15, 11:21 am, "Atila Iskander"
wrote:


My tar shingle roof is sloped north-south.
* * Prevailing winds are easterly.


The paint under the north-east edge of the roof peels faster than
anywhere
else.
This indicates that water is being pushed over the edge and trickles
down
the trim and the brick on the east wall.
* * This is supported by the fact that the wood trim around the
windows
is
also being rotted away


I was thinking of nailing an L-shaped piece of metal or plastic along
the
edge, to create a small barrier so that rain, on hitting the barrier,
will
be guided down the roof slope to the gutters, instead of rolling over
the
edge and running down the east wall.


Does this make sense ?
Is this a viable solution ?
What kind of L-shaped barrier should be used ?


Without seeing the situation I can still say that your hypothesis is
flawed. *Assuming a typical gable roof, why would only one corner have
that problem when the roof has four such corners? *I would bet dollars
to donuts that it's not the water running off that's the problem -
that happens at all four corners, it's the water running off and not
_drying_ on that corner that is the problem. *Part of that is your
prevailing winds, and part of that is the sun doing it's sun thing.


Take some pictures of the corner in question, and another corner or
two as reference, and post them on one of the free hosting sites, then
post the link(s) back here and we'll take a look.


You misunderstand
Not "one corner"
* * It's ONE SIDE. with one HALF-side being more damaged


That's pretty much what I pictured. *Post pictures.


The roof is an A with one side facing North, the other South. The ridge
runs
East-West.
The whole East side trim has flaking paint.
But far more on the North-East side, than the South-East side of the East
wall.


Which is pretty much what I pictured and coincides with what I said.
Post pictures. *Thanks.


Since when are sides = corners ?


Do you know a way to make up a corner without using two sides?

Do you want help or not? It's clear you don't know what you're
looking at, so do yourself the favor and let some people look at it
that do. Post some pictures. Take pictures of the peeling paint
you're concerned about and the rotten window trim and whatever local
conditions might affect things (trees, etc.).

R
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On Jul 15, 9:25*pm, RicodJour wrote:
On Jul 15, 7:31*pm, "Atila Iskander" wrote:









"RicodJour" wrote in message


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Atila Iskander wrote:
"RicodJour" wrote:
On Jul 15, 11:21 am, "Atila Iskander"
wrote:


My tar shingle roof is sloped north-south.
* * Prevailing winds are easterly.


The paint under the north-east edge of the roof peels faster than
anywhere
else.
This indicates that water is being pushed over the edge and trickles
down
the trim and the brick on the east wall.
* * This is supported by the fact that the wood trim around the
windows
is
also being rotted away


I was thinking of nailing an L-shaped piece of metal or plastic along
the
edge, to create a small barrier so that rain, on hitting the barrier,
will
be guided down the roof slope to the gutters, instead of rolling over
the
edge and running down the east wall.


Does this make sense ?
Is this a viable solution ?
What kind of L-shaped barrier should be used ?


Without seeing the situation I can still say that your hypothesis is
flawed. *Assuming a typical gable roof, why would only one corner have
that problem when the roof has four such corners? *I would bet dollars
to donuts that it's not the water running off that's the problem -
that happens at all four corners, it's the water running off and not
_drying_ on that corner that is the problem. *Part of that is your
prevailing winds, and part of that is the sun doing it's sun thing..


Take some pictures of the corner in question, and another corner or
two as reference, and post them on one of the free hosting sites, then
post the link(s) back here and we'll take a look.


You misunderstand
Not "one corner"
* * It's ONE SIDE. with one HALF-side being more damaged


That's pretty much what I pictured. *Post pictures.


The roof is an A with one side facing North, the other South. The ridge
runs
East-West.
The whole East side trim has flaking paint.
But far more on the North-East side, than the South-East side of the East
wall.


Which is pretty much what I pictured and coincides with what I said.
Post pictures. *Thanks.


Since when are sides = corners ?


Do you know a way to make up a corner without using two sides?

Do you want help or not? *It's clear you don't know what you're
looking at, so do yourself the favor and let some people look at it
that do. *Post some pictures. *Take pictures of the peeling paint
you're concerned about and the rotten window trim and whatever local
conditions might affect things (trees, etc.).

R


It might help if the OP posted some pictures.

What do you think?
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On Jul 15, 7:31 pm, "Atila Iskander" wrote:
"RicodJour" wrote in message

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Atila Iskander wrote:
"RicodJour" wrote:
On Jul 15, 11:21 am, "Atila Iskander"
wrote:


My tar shingle roof is sloped north-south.
Prevailing winds are easterly.


The paint under the north-east edge of the roof peels faster than
anywhere
else.
This indicates that water is being pushed over the edge and
trickles
down
the trim and the brick on the east wall.
This is supported by the fact that the wood trim around the
windows
is
also being rotted away


I was thinking of nailing an L-shaped piece of metal or plastic
along
the
edge, to create a small barrier so that rain, on hitting the
barrier,
will
be guided down the roof slope to the gutters, instead of rolling
over
the
edge and running down the east wall.


Does this make sense ?
Is this a viable solution ?
What kind of L-shaped barrier should be used ?


Without seeing the situation I can still say that your hypothesis is
flawed. Assuming a typical gable roof, why would only one corner
have
that problem when the roof has four such corners? I would bet
dollars
to donuts that it's not the water running off that's the problem -
that happens at all four corners, it's the water running off and not
_drying_ on that corner that is the problem. Part of that is your
prevailing winds, and part of that is the sun doing it's sun thing.


Take some pictures of the corner in question, and another corner or
two as reference, and post them on one of the free hosting sites,
then
post the link(s) back here and we'll take a look.


You misunderstand
Not "one corner"
It's ONE SIDE. with one HALF-side being more damaged


That's pretty much what I pictured. Post pictures.


The roof is an A with one side facing North, the other South. The
ridge
runs
East-West.
The whole East side trim has flaking paint.
But far more on the North-East side, than the South-East side of the
East
wall.


Which is pretty much what I pictured and coincides with what I said.
Post pictures. Thanks.


Since when are sides = corners ?


Do you know a way to make up a corner without using two sides?

Do you want help or not? It's clear you don't know what you're
looking at, so do yourself the favor and let some people look at it
that do. Post some pictures. Take pictures of the peeling paint
you're concerned about and the rotten window trim and whatever local
conditions might affect things (trees, etc.).




I have a pretty good idea that I know what I'm looking at
On the other hand, I'm not so sure about you.

There's at least 15 feet of clearance between the roof and the tree on the
south east side of the house
http://uploadingit.com/filemanager#f...nhqk7ptwbrfekd

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I have a pretty good idea that I know what I'm looking at
* * On the other hand, I'm not so sure about you.


That's the whole point. You are looking at it, we're not. That's why
pictures help so much.

When everyone is looking at the same thing, there's less chance the
anyone's choice of words confusing the issue.


There's at least 15 feet of clearance between the roof and the tree on the
south east side of the house


* *http://uploadingit.com/filemanager#f...nhqk7ptwbrfekd


Your link is requesting that I log in or register.

The idea is to choose a site where the photos are easily accessible
without needing to log in, such as
Photobucket, etc.
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On Jul 15, 9:25 pm, RicodJour wrote:
On Jul 15, 7:31 pm, "Atila Iskander" wrote:

"RicodJour" wrote in message


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Atila Iskander wrote:
"RicodJour" wrote:
On Jul 15, 11:21 am, "Atila Iskander"
wrote:


My tar shingle roof is sloped north-south.
Prevailing winds are easterly.


The paint under the north-east edge of the roof peels faster than
anywhere
else.
This indicates that water is being pushed over the edge and
trickles
down
the trim and the brick on the east wall.
This is supported by the fact that the wood trim around the
windows
is
also being rotted away


I was thinking of nailing an L-shaped piece of metal or plastic
along
the
edge, to create a small barrier so that rain, on hitting the
barrier,
will
be guided down the roof slope to the gutters, instead of rolling
over
the
edge and running down the east wall.


Does this make sense ?
Is this a viable solution ?
What kind of L-shaped barrier should be used ?


Without seeing the situation I can still say that your hypothesis
is
flawed. Assuming a typical gable roof, why would only one corner
have
that problem when the roof has four such corners? I would bet
dollars
to donuts that it's not the water running off that's the problem -
that happens at all four corners, it's the water running off and
not
_drying_ on that corner that is the problem. Part of that is your
prevailing winds, and part of that is the sun doing it's sun thing.


Take some pictures of the corner in question, and another corner or
two as reference, and post them on one of the free hosting sites,
then
post the link(s) back here and we'll take a look.


You misunderstand
Not "one corner"
It's ONE SIDE. with one HALF-side being more damaged


That's pretty much what I pictured. Post pictures.


The roof is an A with one side facing North, the other South. The
ridge
runs
East-West.
The whole East side trim has flaking paint.
But far more on the North-East side, than the South-East side of the
East
wall.


Which is pretty much what I pictured and coincides with what I said.
Post pictures. Thanks.


Since when are sides = corners ?


Do you know a way to make up a corner without using two sides?

Do you want help or not? It's clear you don't know what you're
looking at, so do yourself the favor and let some people look at it
that do. Post some pictures. Take pictures of the peeling paint
you're concerned about and the rotten window trim and whatever local
conditions might affect things (trees, etc.).

R


It might help if the OP posted some pictures.

What do you think?

****

Sounds to me like he just needs to rotate the house.

Steve




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Which is pretty much what I pictured and coincides with what I said.
Post pictures. Thanks.


Since when are sides = corners ?


Forget it. When Ricky says something, he sticks by it.


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On Jul 15, 7:31 pm, "Atila Iskander" wrote:
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Atila Iskander wrote:
"RicodJour" wrote:
On Jul 15, 11:21 am, "Atila Iskander"
wrote:


My tar shingle roof is sloped north-south.
* * Prevailing winds are easterly.


The paint under the north-east edge of the roof peels faster than
anywhere
else.
This indicates that water is being pushed over the edge and
trickles
down
the trim and the brick on the east wall.
* * This is supported by the fact that the wood trim around the
windows
is
also being rotted away


I was thinking of nailing an L-shaped piece of metal or plastic
along
the
edge, to create a small barrier so that rain, on hitting the
barrier,
will
be guided down the roof slope to the gutters, instead of rolling
over
the
edge and running down the east wall.


Does this make sense ?
Is this a viable solution ?
What kind of L-shaped barrier should be used ?


Without seeing the situation I can still say that your hypothesis is
flawed. *Assuming a typical gable roof, why would only one corner
have
that problem when the roof has four such corners? *I would bet
dollars
to donuts that it's not the water running off that's the problem -
that happens at all four corners, it's the water running off and not
_drying_ on that corner that is the problem. *Part of that is your
prevailing winds, and part of that is the sun doing it's sun thing.


Take some pictures of the corner in question, and another corner or
two as reference, and post them on one of the free hosting sites,
then
post the link(s) back here and we'll take a look.


You misunderstand
Not "one corner"
* * It's ONE SIDE. with one HALF-side being more damaged


That's pretty much what I pictured. *Post pictures.


The roof is an A with one side facing North, the other South. The
ridge
runs
East-West.
The whole East side trim has flaking paint.
But far more on the North-East side, than the South-East side of the
East
wall.


Which is pretty much what I pictured and coincides with what I said.
Post pictures. *Thanks.


Since when are sides = corners ?


Do you know a way to make up a corner without using two sides?


Do you want help or not? *It's clear you don't know what you're
looking at, so do yourself the favor and let some people look at it
that do. *Post some pictures. *Take pictures of the peeling paint
you're concerned about and the rotten window trim and whatever local
conditions might affect things (trees, etc.).


I have a pretty good idea that I know what I'm looking at
* * On the other hand, I'm not so sure about you.


WELL POST SOME PICTURES SOMEWHERE WHERE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO
_REGISTER_ TO SEE THEM!
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Which is pretty much what I pictured and coincides with what I said.
Post pictures. *Thanks.


Since when are sides = corners ?


Forget it. When Ricky says something, he sticks by it.


Thanks. That is true. I find little need to backpedal since I don't
make stuff up, dissemble and paint myself into corners. I may make an
erroneous assumption but do not believe I've made one in this
instance. If the OP can figure out a way that _other_ people can see
his pictures, we'll know for sure.

R
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On Jul 15, 7:31 pm, "Atila Iskander" wrote:
"RicodJour" wrote in message

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Atila Iskander wrote:
"RicodJour" wrote:
On Jul 15, 11:21 am, "Atila Iskander"
wrote:

My tar shingle roof is sloped north-south.
Prevailing winds are easterly.

The paint under the north-east edge of the roof peels faster than
anywhere
else.
This indicates that water is being pushed over the edge and
trickles
down
the trim and the brick on the east wall.
This is supported by the fact that the wood trim around the
windows
is
also being rotted away

I was thinking of nailing an L-shaped piece of metal or plastic
along
the
edge, to create a small barrier so that rain, on hitting the
barrier,
will
be guided down the roof slope to the gutters, instead of
rolling over
the
edge and running down the east wall.

Does this make sense ?
Is this a viable solution ?
What kind of L-shaped barrier should be used ?

Without seeing the situation I can still say that your
hypothesis is
flawed. Assuming a typical gable roof, why would only one
corner have
that problem when the roof has four such corners? I would bet
dollars
to donuts that it's not the water running off that's the problem -
that happens at all four corners, it's the water running off and
not
_drying_ on that corner that is the problem. Part of that is your
prevailing winds, and part of that is the sun doing it's sun thing.

Take some pictures of the corner in question, and another corner or
two as reference, and post them on one of the free hosting
sites, then
post the link(s) back here and we'll take a look.

You misunderstand
Not "one corner"
It's ONE SIDE. with one HALF-side being more damaged

That's pretty much what I pictured. Post pictures.

The roof is an A with one side facing North, the other South. The
ridge
runs
East-West.
The whole East side trim has flaking paint.
But far more on the North-East side, than the South-East side of
the East
wall.

Which is pretty much what I pictured and coincides with what I said.
Post pictures. Thanks.

Since when are sides = corners ?


Do you know a way to make up a corner without using two sides?

Do you want help or not? It's clear you don't know what you're
looking at, so do yourself the favor and let some people look at it
that do. Post some pictures. Take pictures of the peeling paint
you're concerned about and the rotten window trim and whatever local
conditions might affect things (trees, etc.).




I have a pretty good idea that I know what I'm looking at
On the other hand, I'm not so sure about you.

There's at least 15 feet of clearance between the roof and the tree on
the south east side of the house
http://uploadingit.com/filemanager#f...nhqk7ptwbrfekd


I just signed up with uploadingit to take a look at the pix....it is a
crap website and not easy to use. Clicked on your link after I signed
in and it doesn't go anywhere.....

That said, I tend to agree with Ricod. Pix would be very helpful, but
your description is good. I don't know any way that a roof problem
would transmit to windows in a brick wall unless the interior was also
wet. Sounds like the area has poor caulking and paint jobs...that would
allow moisture in and the shady side of the house would REMAIN damp much
longer...good, dry weather would be a good time to start correcting
those issues. Need at least two days of no rain for wood to dry after
pressure washing, and if there is wet rotted wood, then much longer. If
the paint has peeled to the extent that the wood is weathered, then
scraping and sanding would be in order. Rotted wood needs to be repaired
or replaced. Fascia along the roof needs same treatment, along with
clear drainage and good drip cap.

Had ice dams during winter? How old is roofing? I've read a lot about
horribly poor new construction in Florida that wound up in court because
of major, large scale water damage that showed up when structures were
only about 4 or 5 years old....one large HOA had folks spending more for
repairs than the original purchase price and involved ?70-something homes.
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On Jul 16, 7:40 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Atila Iskander wrote:

Which is pretty much what I pictured and coincides with what I
said. Post pictures. Thanks.


Since when are sides = corners ?


Forget it. When Ricky says something, he sticks by it.


Thanks. That is true. I find little need to backpedal since I don't
make stuff up, dissemble and paint myself into corners. I may make an
erroneous assumption but do not believe I've made one in this
instance. If the OP can figure out a way that _other_ people can see
his pictures, we'll know for sure.


Right.

Sides are the same things as corners.

From Ricky's lips to God's ear. You can take it to the bank. You can let
your sister marry it. You can build a religion around it.




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My tar shingle roof is sloped north-south.
Prevailing winds are easterly.

The paint under the north-east edge of the roof peels faster than anywhere
else.
This indicates that water is being pushed over the edge and trickles down
the trim and the brick on the east wall.
This is supported by the fact that the wood trim around the windows is
also being rotted away

I was thinking of nailing an L-shaped piece of metal or plastic along the
edge, to create a small barrier so that rain, on hitting the barrier, will
be guided down the roof slope to the gutters, instead of rolling over the
edge and running down the east wall.

Does this make sense ?
Is this a viable solution ?
What kind of L-shaped barrier should be used ?


We had a problem with wind blowing rain up an overhang which leaked in the topmost point of the roof. Probably best to have a couple of roofers come over and give you estimates. If they say different things, call others until you hear the same thing more than once. Then pick the best of those to do the work. One fall off a ladder would cost more than several roofs.

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