The presidents wants fuel from algae. Can we now have phosphates added
back into our detergents?

..... related

"Now, it happens that algae will grow on anywhere on earth. I looked
it up while I was away for those three days. You thought I was sunning
myself. I did research. It grows in oceans, in lakes and ponds, in
your swimming pool when the pool man is on vacation. In snow, in ice,
on soil, on turtles, on sloths, the bark of trees and rocks. Why are
we drilling for oil? We are the Saudi Arabia of rocks. We have a
mountain range called the Rockies and we are allowing ourselves to be
dominated by these oil producers. I think he's on to something here
that is truly revolutionary. Why would you build a pipeline, the
Keystone pipeline with real oil from Canada to put in real refineries
and put in real existing cars when you can do algae? I think he is on
to something. And I think this shows the vision, the hope and change
he promised in 2008." -- Charles Krauthammer

On 2/25/2012 2:21 PM, Oren wrote:
The presidents wants fuel from algae. Can we now have phosphates added
back into our detergents?

.... related

"Now, it happens that algae will grow on anywhere on earth. I looked
it up while I was away for those three days. You thought I was sunning
myself. I did research. It grows in oceans, in lakes and ponds, in
your swimming pool when the pool man is on vacation. In snow, in ice,
on soil, on turtles, on sloths, the bark of trees and rocks. Why are
we drilling for oil? We are the Saudi Arabia of rocks. We have a
mountain range called the Rockies and we are allowing ourselves to be
dominated by these oil producers. I think he's on to something here
that is truly revolutionary. Why would you build a pipeline, the
Keystone pipeline with real oil from Canada to put in real refineries
and put in real existing cars when you can do algae? I think he is on
to something. And I think this shows the vision, the hope and change
he promised in 2008." -- Charles Krauthammer

We export over more than a million barrels/day (1,023,000 barrels each
day of the week last period 2/17) of petroleum products than we import.
How will "drill baby drill" help things?


http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move...0_mbblpd_w.htm

"George" wrote in message ...
On 2/25/2012 2:21 PM, Oren wrote:
The presidents wants fuel from algae. Can we now have phosphates added
back into our detergents?

.... related

"Now, it happens that algae will grow on anywhere on earth. I looked
it up while I was away for those three days. You thought I was sunning
myself. I did research. It grows in oceans, in lakes and ponds, in
your swimming pool when the pool man is on vacation. In snow, in ice,
on soil, on turtles, on sloths, the bark of trees and rocks. Why are
we drilling for oil? We are the Saudi Arabia of rocks. We have a
mountain range called the Rockies and we are allowing ourselves to be
dominated by these oil producers. I think he's on to something here
that is truly revolutionary. Why would you build a pipeline, the
Keystone pipeline with real oil from Canada to put in real refineries
and put in real existing cars when you can do algae? I think he is on
to something. And I think this shows the vision, the hope and change
he promised in 2008." -- Charles Krauthammer

We export over more than a million barrels/day (1,023,000 barrels each day of the week last period 2/17) of petroleum
products than we import. How will "drill baby drill" help things?


http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move...0_mbblpd_w.htm

Stop sending "free" fuel to other countries like Israel

In article , George
wrote:

On 2/25/2012 2:21 PM, Oren wrote:
The presidents wants fuel from algae. Can we now have phosphates added
back into our detergents?

.... related

"Now, it happens that algae will grow on anywhere on earth. I looked
it up while I was away for those three days. You thought I was sunning
myself. I did research. It grows in oceans, in lakes and ponds, in
your swimming pool when the pool man is on vacation. In snow, in ice,
on soil, on turtles, on sloths, the bark of trees and rocks. Why are
we drilling for oil? We are the Saudi Arabia of rocks. We have a
mountain range called the Rockies and we are allowing ourselves to be
dominated by these oil producers. I think he's on to something here
that is truly revolutionary. Why would you build a pipeline, the
Keystone pipeline with real oil from Canada to put in real refineries
and put in real existing cars when you can do algae? I think he is on
to something. And I think this shows the vision, the hope and change
he promised in 2008." -- Charles Krauthammer

We export over more than a million barrels/day (1,023,000 barrels each
day of the week last period 2/17) of petroleum products than we import.
How will "drill baby drill" help things?


http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move...0_mbblpd_w.htm

Never have understood why us Americans seem to be so intent on NOT
understanding how markets work. Oil is easily sent from one place to
another (as this so nicely illustrates), thus it isn't what we are
doing, what Canada is doing, etc. It is what the ENTIRE world needs
versus what is out there available. Adding to the supply helps no matter
where it comes from.

--
People thought cybersex was a safe alternative,
until patients started presenting with sexually
acquired carpal tunnel syndrome.-Howard Berkowitz

George wrote:

We export over more than a million barrels/day (1,023,000 barrels each
day of the week last period 2/17) of petroleum products than we
import. How will "drill baby drill" help things?



Because when the WORLD'S supply goes up, the WORLD price goes down.

On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:50:51 -0500, George
wrote:

How will "drill baby drill" help things?

....What’s It All About? The Dowdens are a typical, hardworking and
close-knit family of modest means living in Shreveport, Louisiana, who
turn Beverly Hillbillies — striking it rich after learning their home
sits on the four largest deposit of natural gas in the U.S. Now they
are experiencing the finer things that life has to offer. Led by
patriarch, Gerald, and matriarch, Kitten, the 10-episode series
follows the family as they experience the perks of belonging to a new
tax bracket, from joining country clubs and hiring personal trainers
to traveling to placed they never imagined they’d go.

They have enough NG on site to fuel cars for 100 years - maybe.

Grumpy wrote:

Stop sending "free" fuel to other countries like Israel

Huh? What makes you imagine we send free fuel to Israel?

On 2/25/12 1:21 PM, Oren wrote:
The presidents wants fuel from algae. Can we now have phosphates added
back into our detergents?

.... related

"Now, it happens that algae will grow on anywhere on earth. I looked
it up while I was away for those three days. You thought I was sunning
myself. I did research. It grows in oceans, in lakes and ponds, in
your swimming pool when the pool man is on vacation. In snow, in ice,
on soil, on turtles, on sloths, the bark of trees and rocks. Why are
we drilling for oil? We are the Saudi Arabia of rocks. We have a
mountain range called the Rockies and we are allowing ourselves to be
dominated by these oil producers. I think he's on to something here
that is truly revolutionary. Why would you build a pipeline, the
Keystone pipeline with real oil from Canada to put in real refineries
and put in real existing cars when you can do algae? I think he is on
to something. And I think this shows the vision, the hope and change
he promised in 2008." -- Charles Krauthammer

Krauthammer left out the most available source. There is always a
bowl of something old in the back of the fridge. No one wants to open
the mystery bowl. The person brave enough to pop the lid could be
richer than Buffet.

On 2/25/2012 3:58 PM, Grumpy wrote:
wrote in message ...
On 2/25/2012 2:21 PM, Oren wrote:
The presidents wants fuel from algae. Can we now have phosphates added
back into our detergents?

.... related

"Now, it happens that algae will grow on anywhere on earth. I looked
it up while I was away for those three days. You thought I was sunning
myself. I did research. It grows in oceans, in lakes and ponds, in
your swimming pool when the pool man is on vacation. In snow, in ice,
on soil, on turtles, on sloths, the bark of trees and rocks. Why are
we drilling for oil? We are the Saudi Arabia of rocks. We have a
mountain range called the Rockies and we are allowing ourselves to be
dominated by these oil producers. I think he's on to something here
that is truly revolutionary. Why would you build a pipeline, the
Keystone pipeline with real oil from Canada to put in real refineries
and put in real existing cars when you can do algae? I think he is on
to something. And I think this shows the vision, the hope and change
he promised in 2008." -- Charles Krauthammer

We export over more than a million barrels/day (1,023,000 barrels each day of the week last period 2/17) of petroleum
products than we import. How will "drill baby drill" help things?


http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move...0_mbblpd_w.htm

Stop sending "free" fuel to other countries like Israel


Who mentioned free?

This is simply the logical result of giving up manufacturing and
becoming a "service economy". Those folks who make the stuff you buy at
walmart need fuel too. So oil companies are more than willing to refine
it here and sell it to them.

In article , George
wrote:

This is simply the logical result of giving up manufacturing and
becoming a "service economy". Those folks who make the stuff you buy at
walmart need fuel too. So oil companies are more than willing to refine
it here and sell it to them.
And yet, even after adjusting for inflation, our mfg sector is
producing at the same level as they were in the 80s and 90s. We haven't
given up on mfg, we have been able to make all sorts of strides in
productivity. We have lost substantially more mfg jobs (especially at
the high end) to robots than to Chinese.

--
People thought cybersex was a safe alternative,
until patients started presenting with sexually
acquired carpal tunnel syndrome.-Howard Berkowitz

By increasing the supply, baby, supply.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"George" wrote in message
...

We export over more than a million barrels/day (1,023,000 barrels each
day of the week last period 2/17) of petroleum products than we import.
How will "drill baby drill" help things?


http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move...0_mbblpd_w.htm

"HeyBub" wrote in message m...
Grumpy wrote:

Stop sending "free" fuel to other countries like Israel

Huh? What makes you imagine we send free fuel to Israel?


On top of that 10 billion dollars per year since Israel was form
Ask your Congressman how much of support is giving to them
over past half or more of century!!!!
In Israel kid soon it is born is medically insure thanks to old mighty dollar
and how about over here????

On Feb 26, 1:33*pm, "Grumpy" wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in messagenews:QJqdnZ5XscGjxdTSnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@earth link.com...
Grumpy wrote:

Stop sending "free" fuel to other countries like Israel

Huh? What makes you imagine we send free fuel to Israel?

On top of that 10 billion dollars per year since Israel was form
Ask your Congressman how much of support is giving to them
over past half or more of century!!!!
In Israel kid soon it is born is medically insure thanks to old mighty dollar
and how about over here????

Read about it here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_aid_to_Israel

Grumpy wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
Grumpy wrote:

Stop sending "free" fuel to other countries like Israel

Huh? What makes you imagine we send free fuel to Israel?


On top of that 10 billion dollars per year since Israel was form
Ask your Congressman how much of support is giving to them
over past half or more of century!!!!
In Israel kid soon it is born is medically insure thanks to old
mighty dollar and how about over here????

Idiot. The U.S. does not "give" anything to Israel.

Israel receives three types of funds from the U.S.:
* Loans. Israel is current in its repayments
* Grants; the U.S. supplies the money, Israel the labor, and the two share
the results. The Arrow Missle System (known in the U.S. as the Patriot) is
an example. This is no different from grants given universities.
* $1.2 billion (as I recall) given to each of Israel and Egypt as part of
the Camp David peace accords.

As for asking my congressman, he's a Democrat and couldn't tell wet from
purple.

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:42:15 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Grumpy wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
Grumpy wrote:

Stop sending "free" fuel to other countries like Israel

Huh? What makes you imagine we send free fuel to Israel?


On top of that 10 billion dollars per year since Israel was form
Ask your Congressman how much of support is giving to them
over past half or more of century!!!!
In Israel kid soon it is born is medically insure thanks to old
mighty dollar and how about over here????

Idiot. The U.S. does not "give" anything to Israel.

Israel receives three types of funds from the U.S.:
* Loans. Israel is current in its repayments
* Grants; the U.S. supplies the money, Israel the labor, and the two share
the results. The Arrow Missle System (known in the U.S. as the Patriot) is
an example. This is no different from grants given universities.
* $1.2 billion (as I recall) given to each of Israel and Egypt as part of
the Camp David peace accords.


Israel has never asked us to provide a single troop to fight in their
wars.

As for asking my congressman, he's a Democrat and couldn't tell wet from
purple.


I'll trade you Harry Reid for your critter. Deal? Shake on it...

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 15:47:01 -0800, Oren wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:42:15 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Grumpy wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
Grumpy wrote:

Stop sending "free" fuel to other countries like Israel

Huh? What makes you imagine we send free fuel to Israel?


On top of that 10 billion dollars per year since Israel was form
Ask your Congressman how much of support is giving to them
over past half or more of century!!!!
In Israel kid soon it is born is medically insure thanks to old
mighty dollar and how about over here????

Idiot. The U.S. does not "give" anything to Israel.

Israel receives three types of funds from the U.S.:
* Loans. Israel is current in its repayments
* Grants; the U.S. supplies the money, Israel the labor, and the two share
the results. The Arrow Missle System (known in the U.S. as the Patriot) is
an example. This is no different from grants given universities.
* $1.2 billion (as I recall) given to each of Israel and Egypt as part of
the Camp David peace accords.


Israel has never asked us to provide a single troop to fight in their
wars.

As for asking my congressman, he's a Democrat and couldn't tell wet from
purple.


I'll trade you Harry Reid for your critter. Deal? Shake on it...

How about Hank Johnson? I understand there isn't that much difference...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg

On 2/25/2012 2:50 PM, George wrote:
....

We export over more than a million barrels/day (1,023,000 barrels each
day of the week last period 2/17) of petroleum products than we import.
How will "drill baby drill" help things?


http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move...0_mbblpd_w.htm

Those are refined products.

How "drill baby drill" would help would be to

a) Increase world crude oil supplies independent of the OPEC, and
b) Reduce the volatility/fear that drives speculation that turmoil in
the Middle East causes (which is the prime driver in the markets over
the last decade)

--

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 19:15:55 -0500, "
wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 15:47:01 -0800, Oren wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:42:15 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Grumpy wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
Grumpy wrote:

Stop sending "free" fuel to other countries like Israel

Huh? What makes you imagine we send free fuel to Israel?


On top of that 10 billion dollars per year since Israel was form
Ask your Congressman how much of support is giving to them
over past half or more of century!!!!
In Israel kid soon it is born is medically insure thanks to old
mighty dollar and how about over here????

Idiot. The U.S. does not "give" anything to Israel.

Israel receives three types of funds from the U.S.:
* Loans. Israel is current in its repayments
* Grants; the U.S. supplies the money, Israel the labor, and the two share
the results. The Arrow Missle System (known in the U.S. as the Patriot) is
an example. This is no different from grants given universities.
* $1.2 billion (as I recall) given to each of Israel and Egypt as part of
the Camp David peace accords.


Israel has never asked us to provide a single troop to fight in their
wars.

As for asking my congressman, he's a Democrat and couldn't tell wet from
purple.


I'll trade you Harry Reid for your critter. Deal? Shake on it...

How about Hank Johnson? I understand there isn't that much difference...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg

When it tips over, it will capsize ...

He surely said it!

Oren wrote:
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:42:15 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Grumpy wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
Grumpy wrote:

Stop sending "free" fuel to other countries like Israel

Huh? What makes you imagine we send free fuel to Israel?


On top of that 10 billion dollars per year since Israel was form
Ask your Congressman how much of support is giving to them
over past half or more of century!!!!
In Israel kid soon it is born is medically insure thanks to old
mighty dollar and how about over here????

Idiot. The U.S. does not "give" anything to Israel.

Israel receives three types of funds from the U.S.:
* Loans. Israel is current in its repayments
* Grants; the U.S. supplies the money, Israel the labor, and the two
share the results. The Arrow Missle System (known in the U.S. as the
Patriot) is an example. This is no different from grants given
universities. * $1.2 billion (as I recall) given to each of Israel
and Egypt as part of the Camp David peace accords.


Israel has never asked us to provide a single troop to fight in their
wars.

As for asking my congressman, he's a Democrat and couldn't tell wet
from purple.


I'll trade you Harry Reid for your critter. Deal? Shake on it...

I'm shaking just thinking about it.

George wrote:

We export over more than a million barrels/day (1,023,000 barrels each
day of the week last period 2/17) of petroleum products than we
import. How will "drill baby drill" help things?


http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move...0_mbblpd_w.htm

Crude oil and petroleum "products" are two completely different things.

The more crude we can gather means more refined products we can export. You
can't export cars if you don't make any.

The world uses something less than 2.6 billion liters of gasoline per day.
That's about 22 million barrels.

The U.S. alone uses 1.4 billion liters of gasoline per day (about 11.7
million bbls).

If we had enough crude - or just a lot more - we could be a really big
player in the world gasoline market.

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:15:28 -0800, Oren wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 19:15:55 -0500, "
wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 15:47:01 -0800, Oren wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:42:15 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Grumpy wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
Grumpy wrote:

Stop sending "free" fuel to other countries like Israel

Huh? What makes you imagine we send free fuel to Israel?


On top of that 10 billion dollars per year since Israel was form
Ask your Congressman how much of support is giving to them
over past half or more of century!!!!
In Israel kid soon it is born is medically insure thanks to old
mighty dollar and how about over here????

Idiot. The U.S. does not "give" anything to Israel.

Israel receives three types of funds from the U.S.:
* Loans. Israel is current in its repayments
* Grants; the U.S. supplies the money, Israel the labor, and the two share
the results. The Arrow Missle System (known in the U.S. as the Patriot) is
an example. This is no different from grants given universities.
* $1.2 billion (as I recall) given to each of Israel and Egypt as part of
the Camp David peace accords.


Israel has never asked us to provide a single troop to fight in their
wars.

As for asking my congressman, he's a Democrat and couldn't tell wet from
purple.


I'll trade you Harry Reid for your critter. Deal? Shake on it...

How about Hank Johnson? I understand there isn't that much difference...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg

When it tips over, it will capsize ...

He surely said it!

Well, he wasn't wrong.

"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message

stuff snipped

How will "drill baby drill" help things?


http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move...0_mbblpd_w.htm

Never have understood why us Americans seem to be so intent on NOT
understanding how markets work. Oil is easily sent from one place to
another (as this so nicely illustrates), thus it isn't what we are
doing, what Canada is doing, etc. It is what the ENTIRE world needs
versus what is out there available. Adding to the supply helps no matter
where it comes from.

The oil market is one of the most unusual commodity markets in the world.
If OPEC thinks there's a glut they just stop pumping for a while. Unlike
many other commodities, there's not a heavy cost associated with storage or
fear of spoilage. OPEC has been adjusting the price of oil for a long, long
time.

https://courseware.e-education.psu.e.../L07_OPEC.html

1.. OPEC countries produce 40% of the crude oil.
2.. OPEC countries have 75% of the World Reserve of crude oil.
Those two facts alone help them manipulate the world's supply of oil.

https://courseware.e-education.psu.e...ograph_EIA.jpg

The above chart is one of the best visual explanations of the many factors
that drive the price of oil I've ever seen. It's a remarkable piece of
work.

While OPEC doesn't quite match the ability of DeBeers to control the entire
world's diamond trade, they have been able to influence US and world
politics by their actions.

--
Bobby G.

"HeyBub" wrote in message

stuff snipped

Idiot. The U.S. does not "give" anything to Israel.

Well, that's a pretty tall tale, HeyBub. We help support the entire Israeli
economy. We've gone from giving them sweetheart loans with incredibly
favorable interest rates to outright gifts in the form of grants.

With its $3 billion annual aid package, Israel today receives more aid on
better terms than any other nation in the world . . . Since 1974, when Nixon
's emergency aid package went into effect, annual U.S. assistance to Israel
has consistently hovered around $2-3 billion, an increasing share of which
has been given as grants rather than loans. As a result, U.S. aid to Israel
since 1974 totals roughly $80 billion, whereas U.S. aid to Israel between
1949 and 1973 totaled only $3.1 billion, or $122 million annually, most of
which was provided as loans

http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~hireview...04/&name=feith

Israel receives three types of funds from the U.S.:
* Loans. Israel is current in its repayments
* Grants; the U.S. supplies the money, Israel the labor, and the two share
the results. The Arrow Missle System (known in the U.S. as the Patriot) is
an example. This is no different from grants given universities.

I beg to differ. It's VERY different. A grant is a gift, at least in the
eyes of most people. Unlike a loan, there's no repayment required. Our huge
"grants" to Israel help create jobs *there* whereas a grant to Harvard would
help create jobs *here.* That's a pretty massive difference to most of us,
especially considering current unemployment figures for the US. Eventually,
when we're going to have to make hard choices about the ever increasing
deficit, Israeli aid will likely see some serious reductions.

Annual aid packages for Israel have held steady in the $2-3 billion range
since 1974, although the breakdown of the packages has changed. When the
level was first set, the package was pretty evenly split between grants and
loans. Military assistance, known as Foreign Military Financing (FMF),
slightly exceeded economic aid, known as Economic Support Funds (ESF). In
1981, Israel began receiving its full economic aid in grants, and four years
later, all its military assistance became grants as well. By 1987, the
amount of military and economic assistance-$1.8 billion and $1.2 billion,
respectively-was at the level at which it would remain for 12 years. In
addition to **receiving more assistance than any other country**, Israel
receives that assistance on **exceptionally good terms.** Israel is not
required, as most countries are, to account for how it uses ESF. In
addition, unlike most aid recipients, Israel receives its ESF and FMF as
**lump sum direct cash transfers** within 30 days of Congress approving the
aid package. ** (emphasis mine)

The article quotes Senator Carl Levin:

Levin also argues that American aid contributes to Israel's lack of
economic self-sufficiency. He observes that despite a sharp drop in Israel's
economic growth rate since 1973, the rate of private consumption growth has
not dropped proportionately because a large percentage of the Israeli
workforce is employed by the government or by government-owned corporations,
which U.S. aid props up. As a result, Israelis are living beyond their
means, and according to Levin they depend on U.S. aid to be able to do so.
If this fiscal irresponsibility continues and the flow of aid ever stops,
Israel's lack of economic self-sufficiency could jeopardize its stability. .
.. . In 2002, government spending was responsible for almost 70 percent of
the country's GDP, compared to about 33 percent in the U.S. for all levels
of government. A third of the Israeli workforce is on the public payroll,
while another quarter is employed by companies the state either owns or
supports.

Ironically the people who constantly complain about America's government
being outrageously large help fund a country with a government that's two to
three times as big as ours, proportionally speaking.

* $1.2 billion (as I recall) given to each of Israel and Egypt as part of
the Camp David peace accords.

Well, it's been a trifle more than that:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1209/p16s01-wmgn.html says:

Since 1973, Israel has cost the United States about $1.6 trillion. If
divided by today's population, that is more than $5,700 per person . . .
This is an estimate by Thomas Stauffer, a consulting economist in
Washington. For decades, his analyses of the Middle East scene have made him
a frequent thorn in the side of the Israel lobby. . . For the first time in
many years, Mr. Stauffer has tallied the total cost to the US of its backing
of Israel in its drawn-out, violent dispute with the Palestinians. So far,
he figures, the bill adds up to more than twice the cost of the Vietnam
War.

I find in interesting that people that can't stand the idea of welfare for
US citizens don't see any problems with corporate or in this case
international welfare that's cost us a lot of money. It may seem strange,
but welfare at any level creates the same problems of long term dependency.
There's more to the cost of aid than just the dollar amounts given:

One huge cost is not secret. It is the higher cost of oil and other
economic damage to the US after Israel-Arab wars . . . In 1973, for
instance, Arab nations attacked Israel in an attempt to win back territories
Israel had conquered in the 1967 war. President Nixon resupplied Israel with
US arms, triggering the Arab oil embargo against the US. . . .That shortfall
in oil deliveries kicked off a deep recession. The US lost $420 billion (in
2001 dollars) of output as a result, Stauffer calculates. And a boost in oil
prices cost another $450 billion.

There are serious indirect costs, too. Those grants create jobs in *Israel*
whereas university grants to colleges in this country create jobs *here.*
At a time when we need all the jobs we can get and we have to cut billions
from the budget, our largesse to Israel might find itself seriously limited
in the future. There are a number of economists that believe that our
withdrawal of aid from Israel would have the same drastic effects that Cuba
suffered when the Soviet Union collapsed and they stopped sending huge
amounts of aid to Castro.

As for asking my congressman, he's a Democrat and couldn't tell wet from
purple.

You should ask Republican Larry Craig - he's an expert on all things wet and
purple, especially things that you might find in an airport bathroom.

--
Bobby G.