"Evan" wrote in message
...
On Jan 25, 5:09 pm, Tony Miklos wrote:
A picture of the driveway in question would have
been ideal...
**********************

Not easily done in a text only group.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 01:06:37 -0800, Evan wrote:

OP's here never seem to actually describe
the situation and location of the problem, leaving out key information

I agree I did not fully describe the situation. This is my fault.
I fully understand why people who were trying to help me were suggesting
alternative solutions (such as backing out).

It's still dark outside but I'll snap a picture or two in the daylight
and post them so you can see the situation!

Thanks!

On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 01:08:28 -0800, Evan wrote:

An incomplete story filled in piece by piece

I'm sorry. It was my fault for hastily writing the original post without
fully describing the situation.

I'll snap a photo in the daylight to better show the situation!

thanks!

On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 05:53:36 -0500, Tony Miklos wrote:

He has been pointed the direction of a parabolic mirror, a good
suggestion, I've seen them hundreds of times used for this purpose.

At first I thought the strip of cheap reflective mirror on the guardrail
was the best idea - but - people clearly showed it was not (due mostly to
legal ramifications).

So, I do agree ... there is 'no solution' that fits my original
requirement (cheap) ... but the parabolic mirror (which in the end, with
posts, will cost about $100 since the cheaper 12" mirror is probably too
small).

I'll try to see if the town will put it in (in which case a two-foot
mirror would be fine) ... but otherwise, I'll keep searching for a
cheaper two-foot mirror & post.

On Jan 25, 12:59*pm, Chuck Banshee wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 09:40:34 -0800, Robert Macy wrote:
Back your car into the driveway/garage while it's an easy thing to do.

This is the third person to suggest backing in the driveway so I
apologize for not stating that this would be more work (over time) than
just building a new driveway would.

The driveway is hundreds of feet long, hilly, curved, mostly gravel,
unlit, and not at all conducive to backing up into.

All I'm looking for is a cheap mirror source. About $25 or so, because
anything worth more than that gets stolen around here. I would just like
to find a strip of mirror to bolt to the guardrail on the road.

Ok you drive straight in to come home, then you back ALL the way
out?

What's the difference of backing all the way IN, then driving forward
all the way out? Something got missed in the interpretation of the
car's direction.

Do you drive forward all the way in, turn car around at house, drive
forward all the way out? And still can't see at the corner?

"Chuck Banshee" wrote in message
...
My driveway angles at a sharp angle to an infrequently used road such
that I almost never have to even look to see if there's traffic (because
there's only traffic about once a month at the time I'm entering the
road).

It isnt cowardly to stop. Somebody has to.
But you might see if the county or city can help you by putting a Slow
sign or speed bumps on the road that is most likely to hide arriving
traffic.

The mirror is not a bad idea unless local governmental rules preclude
it. We had one at the turnoff to our house in Norway, where the roads
were narrow, sided by vertical granite cuts, and had a lot of sharp turns
and switchbacks.

On Jan 26, 8:29*am, "Hoof Hearted" wrote:
"Evan" wrote in message

...
On Jan 25, 5:09 pm, Tony Miklos wrote:
A picture of the driveway in question would have
been ideal...
**********************

Not easily done in a text only group.

Have you ever heard of the concept of a "link"?

It's a method often used to allow readers to access a web site on the
internet.

Some of those sites allow the free storage of images and public access.

"Evan" wrote in message
...
On Jan 25, 5:09 pm, Tony Miklos wrote:
A picture of the driveway in question would have
been ideal...


Hoof Hearted wrote:
Not easily done in a text only group.


http://www.yellowjersey.org/daily.html

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 17:01:28 -0800 (PST), Evan
wrote:

On Jan 26, 8:29*am, "Hoof Hearted" wrote:
"Evan" wrote in message

...
On Jan 25, 5:09 pm, Tony Miklos wrote:
A picture of the driveway in question would have
been ideal...
**********************

Not easily done in a text only group.

If you don't know how to post a picture on a photo hosting
site and then type the link here in a text only group, then
turn off your computer and stop using the internet...

~~ Evan

Put the mouse down and step away from the computer.

"Evan" wrote in message
...
On Jan 26, 8:29 am, "Hoof Hearted" wrote:
"Evan" wrote in message

...
On Jan 25, 5:09 pm, Tony Miklos wrote:
A picture of the driveway in question would have
been ideal...
**********************

Not easily done in a text only group.

If you don't know how to post a picture on a photo hosting
site and then type the link here in a text only group, then
turn off your computer and stop using the internet...

~~ Evan
-----------------------------------------------------------

Wow, they certainly do grow them stupid in "Provi-DENSE".

On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 20:40:34 -0500, Tony Miklos wrote:
If you pull your car in the driveway backwards off the road upon
approach when you can see all the traffic

This gravel driveway is a couple hundred feet long, curved, hilly, and
unlit. I doubt backing up will be feasible in the long run.

Then put a pad at the bottom to turn around on. In many states it is
illegal to back onto a road from a residential driveway.

For the life of me I just can't understand why people think he wants to
back out of his driveway? He never said back out. ??????????????

I agree.

I don't see how backing out helps in any way possible.

Plus, if you look at the pictures, it's infeasible to back out - but -
even if it were feasible - I don't see how that changes the sharp angle
that the driveway hits the road.

If anything, it makes it worse because my eyes are farther from the road
when the car enters the road and my head it cocked backward.

So, I just can't understand why backing out is such a hot topic as it
buys me nothing and isn't feasible anyway.

On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:40:46 +0000, Tegger wrote:

I gave you a link to a $27 convex mirror.

I know. But it was a foot wide (which is mighty small):
"$27 for a 12" with no backing"

Still, it's in the budget range so I appreciate the find.

In the end, I think I'll go with this, however small. If I'm lucky, I'll
nail it to a tree. Folks out here are mighty friendly - it's the
transients that steal stuff - so I shouldn't have a problem nailing the
mirror on a tree. That keeps the costs down.

I've already seen the posts about not putting a post in the guardrail
'control zone' and the posts about modifying the guardrail - so both
those ideas are off the table now due to those complications.

The only option left, given the constraints, are the 12 inch convex
mirror nailed to a tree. If/when I do this, I'll post a picture of the
results!

But, the other posts

On 1/26/2012 21:08, Chuck Banshee wrote:

The only option left, given the constraints, are the 12 inch convex
mirror nailed to a tree. If/when I do this, I'll post a picture of the
results!


Being a computer nerd I would go with the camera/tablet solution.

Cheap wireless ip cam that you can access with any sort of portable
through your home lan.

Place the cam appropriately, maybe weather enclosure. Make it hard to
see from road so you lessen the theft problem.

On Jan 26, 9:12*pm, "Hoof Hearted" wrote:
"Evan" wrote in message

...
On Jan 26, 8:29 am, "Hoof Hearted" wrote:

"Evan" wrote in message

...
On Jan 25, 5:09 pm, Tony Miklos wrote:
A picture of the driveway in question would have
been ideal...
**********************

Not easily done in a text only group.

If you don't know how to post a picture on a photo hosting
site and then type the link here in a text only group, then
turn off your computer and stop using the internet...

~~ Evan
-----------------------------------------------------------

Wow, they certainly do grow them stupid in "Provi-DENSE".

Ever heard of a VPN... You think I am located somewhere,
I may or may not be in that area, but yes, the server I use
is located in Rhode Island...

Wow, you can read headers and do an ARIN search on an
IP address, so can any 10-year-old... Do you want a cookie
or some sort of achievement award for that ?

~~ Evan

On Jan 27, 12:03*am, Chuck Banshee wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 20:40:34 -0500, Tony Miklos wrote:
If you pull your car in the driveway backwards off the road upon
approach when you can see all the traffic

This gravel driveway is a couple hundred feet long, curved, hilly, and
unlit. I doubt backing up will be feasible in the long run.

Then put a pad at the bottom to turn around on. In many states it is
illegal to back onto a road from a residential driveway.

For the life of me I just can't understand why people think he wants to
back out of his driveway? *He never said back out. ??????????????

I agree.

I don't see how backing out helps in any way possible.

Plus, if you look at the pictures, it's infeasible to back out - but -
even if it were feasible - I don't see how that changes the sharp angle
that the driveway hits the road.

If anything, it makes it worse because my eyes are farther from the road
when the car enters the road and my head it cocked backward.

So, I just can't understand why backing out is such a hot topic as it
buys me nothing and isn't feasible anyway.

Why ?

Because prior to your providing more KEY details about
your situation, many people here were thinking along the
lines of "short driveway close to house" situation...

Not "a twisty, hilly suicide dirt road suitable to lead you to
a Unabomber cabin, the Hidden Valley ranch dressing source,
the Keebler elves magical forest or the secret source of
Poland Springs bottled water" type situation...

~~ Evan

On Jan 27, 12:08*am, Chuck Banshee wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:40:46 +0000, Tegger wrote:
I gave you a link to a $27 convex mirror.

I know. But it was a foot wide (which is mighty small):
*"$27 for a 12" with no backing"

Still, it's in the budget range so I appreciate the find.

In the end, I think I'll go with this, however small. If I'm lucky, I'll
nail it to a tree. Folks out here are mighty friendly - it's the
transients that steal stuff - so I shouldn't have a problem nailing the
mirror on a tree. That keeps the costs down.

I've already seen the posts about not putting a post in the guardrail
'control zone' and the posts about modifying the guardrail - so both
those ideas are off the table now due to those complications.

The only option left, given the constraints, are the 12 inch convex
mirror nailed to a tree. If/when I do this, I'll post a picture of the
results!

But, the other posts

I would cut down the brush (obstructions) that limit your
view until you are at the very crest of your driveway at the road...

In the long run, that solution is free (other than taking up your
time), can not be stolen or damaged and if it doesn't work you
can always revisit the mirror issue later on...

~~ Evan

On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 05:19:10 -0800, Evan wrote:

Not "a twisty, hilly suicide dirt road suitable to lead you to a
Unabomber cabin ...

Hi Evan,

Thanks for clarifying. I almost spilled my morning coffee reading this
one! You do have a sense of humor ... and I do understand your point!

Evan wrote:
On Jan 26, 9:12 pm, "Hoof Hearted" wrote:

Wow, they certainly do grow them stupid in "Provi-DENSE".

Ever heard of a VPN... You think I am located somewhere,
I may or may not be in that area, but yes, the server I use
is located in Rhode Island...

Wow, you can read headers and do an ARIN search on an
IP address, so can any 10-year-old...

You think? 10-year-olds can do many things we can and many I can't
(using game consoles for ex - I've never ever used one). But, scusi,
using Usenet, reading headers, knowing what an IP address is, and
evenmore doing ARIN searches, is *not* what *any* 10-year-old can do.
There might be some who can, but I'd guesstimate it at one in 10,000.

On Jan 27, 5:39*pm, Patok wrote:
Evan wrote:
On Jan 26, 9:12 pm, "Hoof Hearted" wrote:

Wow, they certainly do grow them stupid in "Provi-DENSE".

Ever heard of a VPN... *You think I am located somewhere,
I may or may not be in that area, but yes, the server I use
is located in Rhode Island...

Wow, you can read headers and do an ARIN search on an
IP address, so can any 10-year-old...

* *You think? 10-year-olds can do many things we can and many I can't
(using game consoles for ex - I've never ever used one). But, scusi,
using Usenet, reading headers, knowing what an IP address is, and
evenmore doing ARIN searches, is *not* what *any* 10-year-old can do.
There might be some who can, but I'd guesstimate it at one in 10,000.

I think that your ideas as to what goes on in education
these days is lacking... Tracing an IP address in a
technology class is an easy way to tie in with other
subjects across the curriculum like geography and
world studies using actual real information rather
than cheesy fake situations out of a textbook...

Your guesstimate is flat out wrong, kids that young
have been learning things like HTML and using the
internet at levels beyond what *MOST* adults can
comprehend for years... Of course if you are from
an illiterate region with poorly funded school systems
then perhaps this is not what your young people
experience...

~~ Evan

Evan wrote:

On Jan 26, 8:29*am, "Hoof Hearted" wrote:
"Evan" wrote in message

...
On Jan 25, 5:09 pm, Tony Miklos wrote:
A picture of the driveway in question would have
been ideal...
**********************

Not easily done in a text only group.

If you don't know how to post a picture on a photo hosting
site and then type the link here in a text only group, then
turn off your computer and stop using the internet...

~~ Evan

V'ir erdhrfgrq abguvat, ng yrnfg GEL gb yrnea gb
erpbtavmr gur qvfgvapgvba orgjrra gur qrpynengvir,
vzcrengvir naq vagreebtngvir. Naq, ol nyy zrnaf, qb
nyfb pbagvahr gb cergragvbhfyl naq fhcrepvyvbhfyl
yrpgher zr nf gb ubj V pbhyq unir orra (unq gur
fcrpvsvpf orra ragveryl qvssrerag) jebat orsber
furrcvfuyl pbaprqvat gung V nz bs pbhefr pbeerpg,
fb irel ragregnvavat naq qrrcyl nccerpvngrq.

Ohg qrfcvgr lbhe cbzcbhf snhk cnf: "Vs lbh qba'g
xabj ubj gb cbfg n cvpgher ba n cubgb ubfgvat fvgr
naq gura glcr gur yvax urer va n grkg bayl tebhc,
gura ghea bss lbhe pbzchgre naq fgbc hfvat gur
vagrearg..", gur snpg bs gur znggre vf gung lbh
fubhyqa'g or va gur yrnfg fhecevfrq gb qvfpbire gung
V, ng yrnfg nf yvxryl nf abg, unir npghnyyl sbetbggra
zber nobhg pbzchgre naq flfgrz fpvraprf guna
lbh'yy rvgure rire xabj be qrirybc gur jurerjvguny
gb pbzceruraq. (Naq nyybj zr gb cerrzcgviryl
nffher lbh gung tvira lbhe pbzvpnyyl evfvoyr
fgngrzrag, fhpu n punetr vf arvgure ulcbpevgvpny
abe vebavp). Nf lbh'ir nyernql fb nzcyl qrzbafgengrq,
rira gur zbfg boivbhf bs vasreraprf jbhyq frrz gb
rnfvyl fhecnff lbhe qrqhpgvir novyvgvrf; erf vcfn ybdhvghe.

Gb ervgrengr, gurl pregnvayl qb tebj gurz fghcvq va EV.

Or, should the above prove too difficult for you:

I've requested nothing, at least TRY to learn to
recognize the distinction between the declarative,
imperative and interrogative. And, by all means, do
also continue to pretentiously and superciliously
lecture me as to how I could have been (had the
specifics been entirely different) wrong before
sheepishly conceding that I am of course correct,
so very entertaining and deeply appreciated.

But despite your pompous faux pas: "If you don't
know how to post a picture on a photo hosting site
and then type the link here in a text only group,
then turn off your computer and stop using the
internet..", the fact of the matter is that you
shouldn't be in the least surprised to discover that
I, at least as likely as not, have actually forgotten
more about computer and system sciences than
you'll either ever know or develop the wherewithal
to comprehend. (And allow me to preemptively
assure you that given your comically risible
statement, such a charge is neither hypocritical
nor ironic). As you've already so amply demonstrated,
even the most obvious of inferences would seem to
easily surpass your deductive abilities; res ipsa loquitur.

To reiterate, they certainly do grow them stupid in RI.

While that makes compelling reading (especially the part about the buxom
wench women and the high spirited highwaymen), I remind you there are ladies
present! Avaast, ye knave! Cleanest up thy writing! Lest I be forced to drub
thee.

I may even post the English translation I got from Babelfish, if requested.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"Hoof Hearted" wrote in message
...


V'ir erdhrfgrq abguvat, ng yrnfg GEL gb yrnea gb
erpbtavmr gur qvfgvapgvba orgjrra gur qrpynengvir,
vzcrengvir naq vagreebtngvir. Naq, ol nyy zrnaf, qb
nyfb pbagvahr gb cergragvbhfyl naq fhcrepvyvbhfyl
yrpgher zr nf gb ubj V pbhyq unir orra (unq gur
fcrpvsvpf orra ragveryl qvssrerag) jebat orsber
furrcvfuyl pbaprqvat gung V nz bs pbhefr pbeerpg,
fb irel ragregnvavat naq qrrcyl nccerpvngrq.

Ohg qrfcvgr lbhe cbzcbhf snhk cnf: "Vs lbh qba'g
xabj ubj gb cbfg n cvpgher ba n cubgb ubfgvat fvgr
naq gura glcr gur yvax urer va n grkg bayl tebhc,
gura ghea bss lbhe pbzchgre naq fgbc hfvat gur
vagrearg..", gur snpg bs gur znggre vf gung lbh
fubhyqa'g or va gur yrnfg fhecevfrq gb qvfpbire gung
V, ng yrnfg nf yvxryl nf abg, unir npghnyyl sbetbggra
zber nobhg pbzchgre naq flfgrz fpvraprf guna
lbh'yy rvgure rire xabj be qrirybc gur jurerjvguny
gb pbzceruraq. (Naq nyybj zr gb cerrzcgviryl
nffher lbh gung tvira lbhe pbzvpnyyl evfvoyr
fgngrzrag, fhpu n punetr vf arvgure ulcbpevgvpny
abe vebavp). Nf lbh'ir nyernql fb nzcyl qrzbafgengrq,
rira gur zbfg boivbhf bs vasreraprf jbhyq frrz gb
rnfvyl fhecnff lbhe qrqhpgvir novyvgvrf; erf vcfn ybdhvghe.

Gb ervgrengr, gurl pregnvayl qb tebj gurz fghcvq va EV.

"Evan" wrote in message
news:fdb6dc5a-a98c-4113-8338-

In my area of the country it is required for a motor vehicle
operator to stop to check for traffic before entering any
roadway irregardless of whether or not the driveway or
parking lot is equipped and marked with a stop sign...

**********
The law, and what people actually will do, are two different things.
If people followed the laws, I think we would have fewer accidents
but when they dont, or wont, maybe a mirror would help
**********

The OP's interest in installing a mirror would make no
difference in my area, he would still have to stop even
if he could see no cars were coming before reaching
the boundary edge of the roadway...

***********
See above...Maybe he SHOULD stop but he might not
HAVE TO stop
***********



~~ Evan

On Jan 28, 9:26*am, Hoof Hearted wrote:
Evan wrote:
On Jan 26, 8:29*am, "Hoof Hearted" wrote:
"Evan" wrote in message

....
On Jan 25, 5:09 pm, Tony Miklos wrote:
A picture of the driveway in question would have
been ideal...
**********************

Not easily done in a text only group.

If you don't know how to post a picture on a photo hosting
site and then type the link here in a text only group, then
turn off your computer and stop using the internet...

~~ Evan


Or, should the above prove too difficult for you:

I've requested nothing, at least TRY to learn to
recognize the distinction between the declarative,
imperative and interrogative. And, by all means, do
also continue to pretentiously and superciliously
lecture me as to how I could have been (had the
specifics been entirely different) wrong before
sheepishly conceding that I am of course correct,
so very entertaining and deeply appreciated.

But despite your pompous faux pas: "If you don't
know how to post a picture on a photo hosting site
and then type the link here in a text only group,
then turn off your computer and stop using the
internet..", the fact of the matter is that you
shouldn't be in the least surprised to discover that
I, at least as likely as not, have actually forgotten
more about computer and system sciences than
you'll either ever know or develop the wherewithal
to comprehend. (And allow me to preemptively
assure you that given your comically risible
statement, such a charge is neither hypocritical
nor ironic). As you've already so amply demonstrated,
even the most obvious of inferences would seem to
easily surpass your deductive abilities; res ipsa loquitur.

To reiterate, they certainly do grow them stupid in RI.

And you if you have your Ph.D or other advanced degree
in Computer Science and have become nothing more than
a Usenet troll, I would say that is more damning evidence
against all people who possess that level of education in
the subject matter as opposed to your condemnation of
people located in the same geographical area of the world
where my VPN server happens to be located...
located...

Why don't you read the thread posted by the idiot
that wanted to drop a capacitor in a bathtub and
try your own similar experiment...

~~ Evan

Evan wrote:

On Jan 28, 9:26*am, Hoof Hearted wrote:
Evan wrote:
On Jan 26, 8:29*am, "Hoof Hearted" wrote:
"Evan" wrote in message

...
On Jan 25, 5:09 pm, Tony Miklos wrote:
A picture of the driveway in question would have
been ideal...
**********************

Not easily done in a text only group.

If you don't know how to post a picture on a photo hosting
site and then type the link here in a text only group, then
turn off your computer and stop using the internet...

~~ Evan


Or, should the above prove too difficult for you:

I've requested nothing, at least TRY to learn to
recognize the distinction between the declarative,
imperative and interrogative. And, by all means, do
also continue to pretentiously and superciliously
lecture me as to how I could have been (had the
specifics been entirely different) wrong before
sheepishly conceding that I am of course correct,
so very entertaining and deeply appreciated.

But despite your pompous faux pas: "If you don't
know how to post a picture on a photo hosting site
and then type the link here in a text only group,
then turn off your computer and stop using the
internet..", the fact of the matter is that you
shouldn't be in the least surprised to discover that
I, at least as likely as not, have actually forgotten
more about computer and system sciences than
you'll either ever know or develop the wherewithal
to comprehend. (And allow me to preemptively
assure you that given your comically risible
statement, such a charge is neither hypocritical
nor ironic). As you've already so amply demonstrated,
even the most obvious of inferences would seem to
easily surpass your deductive abilities; res ipsa loquitur.

To reiterate, they certainly do grow them stupid in RI.

And you if you have your Ph.D or other advanced degree
in Computer Science and have become nothing more than
a Usenet troll,

And IF my Aunt bore testicles, I'd refer to her as Uncle. But
given that your post was a vacuous proposal/complaint in
response to my jest, I respectfully submit that should you
have a desire to locate the actual troll, I suggest you take
a look in the general vicinity of the nearest mirror.

I would say that is more damning evidence
against all people who possess that level of education in
the subject matter as opposed to your condemnation of
people located in the same geographical area of the world
where my VPN server happens to be located...
located...

Again the obvious, save to anyone other than yourself,
quite effectively escapes your conspicuously paralytic grasp.

Why don't you read the thread posted by the idiot
that wanted to drop a capacitor in a bathtub and
try your own similar experiment...

Yet even more risible lecturing from a poseur that undoubtedly
couldn't, this time, begin to describe the simple distinction
between a Norton and Thevenin equivalent circuit. You're
hilarious, you should seriously consider taking that pathetically
feeble Dr. Irwin Corey-esque imitative routine on the road.

~~ Evan

On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:55:43 +0000 (UTC), Hoof Hearted
wrote:

Evan wrote:

On Jan 28, 9:26*am, Hoof Hearted wrote:
Evan wrote:
On Jan 26, 8:29*am, "Hoof Hearted" wrote:
"Evan" wrote in message

...
On Jan 25, 5:09 pm, Tony Miklos wrote:
A picture of the driveway in question would have
been ideal...
**********************

Not easily done in a text only group.

If you don't know how to post a picture on a photo hosting
site and then type the link here in a text only group, then
turn off your computer and stop using the internet...

~~ Evan


Or, should the above prove too difficult for you:

I've requested nothing, at least TRY to learn to
recognize the distinction between the declarative,
imperative and interrogative. And, by all means, do
also continue to pretentiously and superciliously
lecture me as to how I could have been (had the
specifics been entirely different) wrong before
sheepishly conceding that I am of course correct,
so very entertaining and deeply appreciated.

But despite your pompous faux pas: "If you don't
know how to post a picture on a photo hosting site
and then type the link here in a text only group,
then turn off your computer and stop using the
internet..", the fact of the matter is that you
shouldn't be in the least surprised to discover that
I, at least as likely as not, have actually forgotten
more about computer and system sciences than
you'll either ever know or develop the wherewithal
to comprehend. (And allow me to preemptively
assure you that given your comically risible
statement, such a charge is neither hypocritical
nor ironic). As you've already so amply demonstrated,
even the most obvious of inferences would seem to
easily surpass your deductive abilities; res ipsa loquitur.

To reiterate, they certainly do grow them stupid in RI.

And you if you have your Ph.D or other advanced degree
in Computer Science and have become nothing more than
a Usenet troll,

And IF my Aunt bore testicles, I'd refer to her as Uncle. But
given that your post was a vacuous proposal/complaint in
response to my jest, I respectfully submit that should you

Your Jest? Posting a pic to a text group is not easy. That was just
a joke. Right?

have a desire to locate the actual troll, I suggest you take
a look in the general vicinity of the nearest mirror.

I would say that is more damning evidence
against all people who possess that level of education in
the subject matter as opposed to your condemnation of
people located in the same geographical area of the world
where my VPN server happens to be located...
located...

Again the obvious, save to anyone other than yourself,
quite effectively escapes your conspicuously paralytic grasp.

Why don't you read the thread posted by the idiot
that wanted to drop a capacitor in a bathtub and
try your own similar experiment...

Yet even more risible lecturing from a poseur that undoubtedly
couldn't, this time, begin to describe the simple distinction
between a Norton and Thevenin equivalent circuit. You're

Norton and Thevenin equivalent circuit?

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, try to baffle them with
bull****. Or Pig Latin.

hilarious, you should seriously consider taking that pathetically
feeble Dr. Irwin Corey-esque imitative routine on the road.

~~ Evan

Metspitzer wrote:

On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:55:43 +0000 (UTC), Hoof Hearted
wrote:

Evan wrote:

On Jan 28, 9:26*am, Hoof Hearted wrote:
Evan wrote:
On Jan 26, 8:29*am, "Hoof Hearted" wrote:
"Evan" wrote in message

...
On Jan 25, 5:09 pm, Tony Miklos wrote:
A picture of the driveway in question would have
been ideal...
**********************

Not easily done in a text only group.

If you don't know how to post a picture on a photo hosting
site and then type the link here in a text only group, then
turn off your computer and stop using the internet...

~~ Evan


Or, should the above prove too difficult for you:

I've requested nothing, at least TRY to learn to
recognize the distinction between the declarative,
imperative and interrogative. And, by all means, do
also continue to pretentiously and superciliously
lecture me as to how I could have been (had the
specifics been entirely different) wrong before
sheepishly conceding that I am of course correct,
so very entertaining and deeply appreciated.

But despite your pompous faux pas: "If you don't
know how to post a picture on a photo hosting site
and then type the link here in a text only group,
then turn off your computer and stop using the
internet..", the fact of the matter is that you
shouldn't be in the least surprised to discover that
I, at least as likely as not, have actually forgotten
more about computer and system sciences than
you'll either ever know or develop the wherewithal
to comprehend. (And allow me to preemptively
assure you that given your comically risible
statement, such a charge is neither hypocritical
nor ironic). As you've already so amply demonstrated,
even the most obvious of inferences would seem to
easily surpass your deductive abilities; res ipsa loquitur.

To reiterate, they certainly do grow them stupid in RI.

And you if you have your Ph.D or other advanced degree
in Computer Science and have become nothing more than
a Usenet troll,

And IF my Aunt bore testicles, I'd refer to her as Uncle. But
given that your post was a vacuous proposal/complaint in
response to my jest, I respectfully submit that should you

Your Jest? Posting a pic to a text group is not easy. That was just
a joke. Right?

If you have something to say, do by all means state it, if you can
possibly manage to muster the necessary intestinal fortitude.

have a desire to locate the actual troll, I suggest you take
a look in the general vicinity of the nearest mirror.

I would say that is more damning evidence
against all people who possess that level of education in
the subject matter as opposed to your condemnation of
people located in the same geographical area of the world
where my VPN server happens to be located...
located...

Again the obvious, save to anyone other than yourself,
quite effectively escapes your conspicuously paralytic grasp.

Why don't you read the thread posted by the idiot
that wanted to drop a capacitor in a bathtub and
try your own similar experiment...

Yet even more risible lecturing from a poseur that undoubtedly
couldn't, this time, begin to describe the simple distinction
between a Norton and Thevenin equivalent circuit. You're

Norton and Thevenin equivalent circuit?

Yes, they're really rather fundamental circuit analysis techniques
and concepts students are introduced to (and are expected to
easily master) in a first year electrical circuits class. From your
approach. my guess would be that you're, at best, possibly a
vocationally trained electrician and have never in the past even so
much as heard of either, as I can't imagine any competent person
familiar with them posing such an otherwise brain dead pretense.

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, try to baffle them with
bull****.

Your proposing such rudiments to be bull**** only serves to expose
you as the incompetent you clearly must be, and your bull****
allusion, sans actual brilliant content (or any germane content
whatsoever), certainly hasn't attained its desired goal in successfully
leading to any confusion. But the truest form of bull**** pretension
was in fact Evan's attempt to once again lecture and display his
electrical "knowledge and insight" in his suggest to me, which, along
with other truncated comments, you've so conveniently, intentionally,
purposefully and cravenly snipped.

Or Pig Latin.

Is that an attempt to indicate that you too (or should that be two)
were totally flummoxed by that which wouldn't start to bewilder a
retarded 10 year old in a hurry, i.e., the ROT13? Or might it have
been the legal principle of res ipsa loquitur you mistook for "Pig
Latin"? You're evidently quite easily confused, particularly by "that
there book learnin'", or so you've provided every indication. Should
it have been your intention to serve as Evan's either "savior to the
rescue", or simply his surrogate, it is my considered opinion that you
too have failed most miserably and have accomplished nothing more
than joining him in the ranks of complete and utter embarrassments.

But don't let me stop you, do continue to keep digging that hole.

hilarious, you should seriously consider taking that pathetically
feeble Dr. Irwin Corey-esque imitative routine on the road.

~~ Evan

On Jan 29, 10:40*am, Hoof Hearted wrote:
Metspitzer wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:55:43 +0000 (UTC), Hoof Hearted
wrote:

Evan wrote:

On Jan 28, 9:26*am, Hoof Hearted wrote:
Evan wrote:
On Jan 26, 8:29*am, "Hoof Hearted" wrote:
"Evan" wrote in message

...
On Jan 25, 5:09 pm, Tony Miklos wrote:
A picture of the driveway in question would have
been ideal...
**********************

Not easily done in a text only group.

If you don't know how to post a picture on a photo hosting
site and then type the link here in a text only group, then
turn off your computer and stop using the internet...

~~ Evan

Or, should the above prove too difficult for you:

I've requested nothing, at least TRY to learn to
recognize the distinction between the declarative,
imperative and interrogative. And, by all means, do
also continue to pretentiously and superciliously
lecture me as to how I could have been (had the
specifics been entirely different) wrong before
sheepishly conceding that I am of course correct,
so very entertaining and deeply appreciated.

But despite your pompous faux pas: "If you don't
know how to post a picture on a photo hosting site
and then type the link here in a text only group,
then turn off your computer and stop using the
internet..", the fact of the matter is that you
shouldn't be in the least surprised to discover that
I, at least as likely as not, have actually forgotten
more about computer and system sciences than
you'll either ever know or develop the wherewithal
to comprehend. (And allow me to preemptively
assure you that given your comically risible
statement, such a charge is neither hypocritical
nor ironic). As you've already so amply demonstrated,
even the most obvious of inferences would seem to
easily surpass your deductive abilities; res ipsa loquitur.

To reiterate, they certainly do grow them stupid in RI.

And you if you have your Ph.D or other advanced degree
in Computer Science and have become nothing more than
a Usenet troll,

And IF my Aunt bore testicles, I'd refer to her as Uncle. But
given that your post was a vacuous proposal/complaint in
response to my jest, I respectfully submit that should you

Your Jest? *Posting a pic to a text group is not easy. *That was just
a joke. *Right?

If you have something to say, do by all means state it, if you can
possibly manage to muster the necessary intestinal fortitude.









have a desire to locate the actual troll, I suggest you take
a look in the general vicinity of the nearest mirror.

I would say that is more damning evidence
against all people who possess that level of education in
the subject matter as opposed to your condemnation of
people located in the same geographical area of the world
where my VPN server happens to be located...
located...

Again the obvious, save to anyone other than yourself,
quite effectively escapes your conspicuously paralytic grasp.

Why don't you read the thread posted by the idiot
that wanted to drop a capacitor in a bathtub and
try your own similar experiment...

Yet even more risible lecturing from a poseur that undoubtedly
couldn't, this time, begin to describe the simple distinction
between a Norton and Thevenin equivalent circuit. You're

Norton and Thevenin equivalent circuit?

Yes, they're really rather fundamental circuit analysis techniques
and concepts students are introduced to (and are expected to
easily master) in a first year electrical circuits class. From your
approach. my guess would be that you're, at best, possibly a
vocationally trained electrician and have never in the past even so
much as heard of either, as I can't imagine any competent person
familiar with them posing such an otherwise brain dead pretense.

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, try to baffle them with
bull****.

Your proposing such rudiments to be bull**** only serves to expose
you as the incompetent you clearly must be, and your bull****
allusion, sans actual brilliant content (or any germane content
whatsoever), certainly hasn't attained its desired goal in successfully
leading to any confusion. But the truest form of bull**** pretension
was in fact Evan's attempt to once again lecture and display his
electrical "knowledge and insight" in his suggest to me, which, along
with other truncated comments, you've so conveniently, intentionally,
purposefully and cravenly snipped.

Or Pig Latin.

Is that an attempt to indicate that you too (or should that be two)
were totally flummoxed by that which wouldn't start to bewilder a
retarded 10 year old in a hurry, i.e., the ROT13? Or might it have
been the legal principle of res ipsa loquitur you mistook for "Pig
Latin"? You're evidently quite easily confused, particularly by "that
there book learnin'", or so you've provided every indication. Should
it have been your intention to serve as Evan's either "savior to the
rescue", or simply his surrogate, it is my considered opinion that you
too have failed most miserably and have accomplished nothing more
than joining him in the ranks of complete and utter embarrassments.

But don't let me stop you, do continue to keep digging that hole.







hilarious, you should seriously consider taking that pathetically
feeble Dr. Irwin Corey-esque imitative routine on the road.

~~ Evan

Other than using the fancy latin legal phraseology you have
yet to explain what duty of care exists as far as anything in
this thread OR how this unexplained phenomena speaks
anything let alone about itself in a legally sufficient way for
a lawsuit to be won or lost...

Let's look at the situation being discussed he

OP installs the "mirror" and an accident occurs --

The existence of the mirror itself means that the OP was
aware of and took action to mitigate some deficiency of
design or installation of the driveway... The fact that the
mirror itself exists creates an increased duty of care on
the part of the OP because he has been aware of some
danger so when an accident eventually occurs he will
face a much greater burden to overcome in proving it
wasn't his fault...

OP cuts down all the brush to improve visibility --

The trimming of the bushes by themselves proves nothing,
it is just as reasonable an assertion to make that the brush
was trimmed and/or removed to allow for a wider path in the
driveway, to reduce the chance that brush overhanging the
driveway would scratch the OP's vehicles... Increasing the
visibility is only one reasonable explanation for explaining
the fact that the brush was cut down...

A mirror can only be used to increase visibility -- cutting
bushes/brush away can have many numerous causalities...

So do you want to fit your fancy words to the case at point
counselor or do you want to espouse more of your bull****
and pig latin non-sense ?

~~ Evan

Evan wrote:

And you if you have your Ph.D or other advanced degree
in Computer Science and have become nothing more than
a Usenet troll,

And IF my Aunt bore testicles, I'd refer to her as Uncle. But
given that your post was a vacuous proposal/complaint in
response to my jest, I respectfully submit that should you

Your Jest? *Posting a pic to a text group is not easy. *That was just
a joke. *Right?

If you have something to say, do by all means state it, if you can
possibly manage to muster the necessary intestinal fortitude.

have a desire to locate the actual troll, I suggest you take
a look in the general vicinity of the nearest mirror.

I would say that is more damning evidence
against all people who possess that level of education in
the subject matter as opposed to your condemnation of
people located in the same geographical area of the world
where my VPN server happens to be located...
located...

Again the obvious, save to anyone other than yourself,
quite effectively escapes your conspicuously paralytic grasp.

Why don't you read the thread posted by the idiot
that wanted to drop a capacitor in a bathtub and
try your own similar experiment...

Yet even more risible lecturing from a poseur that undoubtedly
couldn't, this time, begin to describe the simple distinction
between a Norton and Thevenin equivalent circuit. You're

Norton and Thevenin equivalent circuit?

Yes, they're really rather fundamental circuit analysis techniques
and concepts students are introduced to (and are expected to
easily master) in a first year electrical circuits class. From your
approach. my guess would be that you're, at best, possibly a
vocationally trained electrician and have never in the past even so
much as heard of either, as I can't imagine any competent person
familiar with them posing such an otherwise brain dead pretense.

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, try to baffle them with
bull****.

Your proposing such rudiments to be bull**** only serves to expose
you as the incompetent you clearly must be, and your bull****
allusion, sans actual brilliant content (or any germane content
whatsoever), certainly hasn't attained its desired goal in successfully
leading to any confusion. But the truest form of bull**** pretension
was in fact Evan's attempt to once again lecture and display his
electrical "knowledge and insight" in his suggest to me, which, along
with other truncated comments, you've so conveniently, intentionally,
purposefully and cravenly snipped.

Or Pig Latin.

Is that an attempt to indicate that you too (or should that be two)
were totally flummoxed by that which wouldn't start to bewilder a
retarded 10 year old in a hurry, i.e., the ROT13? Or might it have
been the legal principle of res ipsa loquitur you mistook for "Pig
Latin"? You're evidently quite easily confused, particularly by "that
there book learnin'", or so you've provided every indication. Should
it have been your intention to serve as Evan's either "savior to the
rescue", or simply his surrogate, it is my considered opinion that you
too have failed most miserably and have accomplished nothing more
than joining him in the ranks of complete and utter embarrassments.

But don't let me stop you, do continue to keep digging that hole.

hilarious, you should seriously consider taking that pathetically
feeble Dr. Irwin Corey-esque imitative routine on the road.

~~ Evan

Other than using the fancy latin legal phraseology you have
yet to explain what duty of care exists as far as anything in
this thread OR how this unexplained phenomena speaks
anything let alone about itself in a legally sufficient way for
a lawsuit to be won or lost...

Let's look at the situation being discussed he

Let's not, as none of my comments, nor any of those either you or
KW (hopefully the abbreviation won't also confuse you) have objected
to heretofore, had the slightest thing to do with anything other than
the posting of a picture, although, given your laughably indefensible
rebuttals, I can readily understand your desperate desire for
obfuscation and misdirection.

OP installs the "mirror" and an accident occurs --

The existence of the mirror itself means that the OP was
aware of and took action to mitigate some deficiency of
design or installation of the driveway... The fact that the
mirror itself exists creates an increased duty of care on
the part of the OP because he has been aware of some
danger so when an accident eventually occurs he will
face a much greater burden to overcome in proving it
wasn't his fault...

OP cuts down all the brush to improve visibility --

The trimming of the bushes by themselves proves nothing,
it is just as reasonable an assertion to make that the brush
was trimmed and/or removed to allow for a wider path in the
driveway, to reduce the chance that brush overhanging the
driveway would scratch the OP's vehicles... Increasing the
visibility is only one reasonable explanation for explaining
the fact that the brush was cut down...

A mirror can only be used to increase visibility -- cutting
bushes/brush away can have many numerous causalities...

So do you want to fit your fancy words to the case at point
counselor

I'm not a counselor, in the legal sense you imply, I'm an engineer.

or do you want to espouse more of your bull****
and pig latin non-sense ?

You've not come REMOTELY close to describing ANYTHING I've
penned as either bull****, pig latin or nonsense. You should be
embarrassed, and would be, had you the capacity to be.

PS The reason for the truncated earlier osts is due to the
servers complaint and restriction of "too many quoted lines".

~~ Evan

On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 16:46:31 +0000 (UTC), Hoof Hearted
wrote:

Evan wrote:

And you if you have your Ph.D or other advanced degree
in Computer Science and have become nothing more than
a Usenet troll,

And IF my Aunt bore testicles, I'd refer to her as Uncle. But
given that your post was a vacuous proposal/complaint in
response to my jest, I respectfully submit that should you

Your Jest? *Posting a pic to a text group is not easy. *That was just
a joke. *Right?

If you have something to say, do by all means state it, if you can
possibly manage to muster the necessary intestinal fortitude.

have a desire to locate the actual troll, I suggest you take
a look in the general vicinity of the nearest mirror.

I would say that is more damning evidence
against all people who possess that level of education in
the subject matter as opposed to your condemnation of
people located in the same geographical area of the world
where my VPN server happens to be located...
located...

Again the obvious, save to anyone other than yourself,
quite effectively escapes your conspicuously paralytic grasp.

Why don't you read the thread posted by the idiot
that wanted to drop a capacitor in a bathtub and
try your own similar experiment...

Yet even more risible lecturing from a poseur that undoubtedly
couldn't, this time, begin to describe the simple distinction
between a Norton and Thevenin equivalent circuit. You're

Norton and Thevenin equivalent circuit?

Yes, they're really rather fundamental circuit analysis techniques
and concepts students are introduced to (and are expected to
easily master) in a first year electrical circuits class. From your
approach. my guess would be that you're, at best, possibly a
vocationally trained electrician and have never in the past even so
much as heard of either, as I can't imagine any competent person
familiar with them posing such an otherwise brain dead pretense.

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, try to baffle them with
bull****.

Your proposing such rudiments to be bull**** only serves to expose
you as the incompetent you clearly must be, and your bull****
allusion, sans actual brilliant content (or any germane content
whatsoever), certainly hasn't attained its desired goal in successfully
leading to any confusion. But the truest form of bull**** pretension
was in fact Evan's attempt to once again lecture and display his
electrical "knowledge and insight" in his suggest to me, which, along
with other truncated comments, you've so conveniently, intentionally,
purposefully and cravenly snipped.

Or Pig Latin.

Is that an attempt to indicate that you too (or should that be two)
were totally flummoxed by that which wouldn't start to bewilder a
retarded 10 year old in a hurry, i.e., the ROT13? Or might it have
been the legal principle of res ipsa loquitur you mistook for "Pig
Latin"? You're evidently quite easily confused, particularly by "that
there book learnin'", or so you've provided every indication. Should
it have been your intention to serve as Evan's either "savior to the
rescue", or simply his surrogate, it is my considered opinion that you
too have failed most miserably and have accomplished nothing more
than joining him in the ranks of complete and utter embarrassments.

But don't let me stop you, do continue to keep digging that hole.

hilarious, you should seriously consider taking that pathetically
feeble Dr. Irwin Corey-esque imitative routine on the road.

~~ Evan

Other than using the fancy latin legal phraseology you have
yet to explain what duty of care exists as far as anything in
this thread OR how this unexplained phenomena speaks
anything let alone about itself in a legally sufficient way for
a lawsuit to be won or lost...

Let's look at the situation being discussed he

Let's not, as none of my comments, nor any of those either you or
KW (hopefully the abbreviation won't also confuse you) have objected
to heretofore, had the slightest thing to do with anything other than
the posting of a picture, although, given your laughably indefensible
rebuttals, I can readily understand your desperate desire for
obfuscation and misdirection.

OP installs the "mirror" and an accident occurs --

The existence of the mirror itself means that the OP was
aware of and took action to mitigate some deficiency of
design or installation of the driveway... The fact that the
mirror itself exists creates an increased duty of care on
the part of the OP because he has been aware of some
danger so when an accident eventually occurs he will
face a much greater burden to overcome in proving it
wasn't his fault...

OP cuts down all the brush to improve visibility --

The trimming of the bushes by themselves proves nothing,
it is just as reasonable an assertion to make that the brush
was trimmed and/or removed to allow for a wider path in the
driveway, to reduce the chance that brush overhanging the
driveway would scratch the OP's vehicles... Increasing the
visibility is only one reasonable explanation for explaining
the fact that the brush was cut down...

A mirror can only be used to increase visibility -- cutting
bushes/brush away can have many numerous causalities...

So do you want to fit your fancy words to the case at point
counselor

I'm not a counselor, in the legal sense you imply, I'm an engineer.

or do you want to espouse more of your bull****
and pig latin non-sense ?

You've not come REMOTELY close to describing ANYTHING I've
penned as either bull****, pig latin or nonsense. You should be

Really? Explain what value bringing up Norton and Thevenin
equivalent circuit has added to the conversation?

Wait! I know. Nothing.

embarrassed, and would be, had you the capacity to be.

PS The reason for the truncated earlier osts is due to the
servers complaint and restriction of "too many quoted lines".

~~ Evan

Metspitzer wrote:

Again the obvious, save to anyone other than yourself,
quite effectively escapes your conspicuously paralytic grasp.

Why don't you read the thread posted by the idiot
that wanted to drop a capacitor in a bathtub and
try your own similar experiment...

Yet even more risible lecturing from a poseur that undoubtedly
couldn't, this time, begin to describe the simple distinction
between a Norton and Thevenin equivalent circuit. You're

Norton and Thevenin equivalent circuit?

Yes, they're really rather fundamental circuit analysis techniques
and concepts students are introduced to (and are expected to
easily master) in a first year electrical circuits class. From your
approach. my guess would be that you're, at best, possibly a
vocationally trained electrician and have never in the past even so
much as heard of either, as I can't imagine any competent person
familiar with them posing such an otherwise brain dead pretense.

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, try to baffle them with
bull****.

Your proposing such rudiments to be bull**** only serves to expose
you as the incompetent you clearly must be, and your bull****
allusion, sans actual brilliant content (or any germane content
whatsoever), certainly hasn't attained its desired goal in successfully
leading to any confusion. But the truest form of bull**** pretension
was in fact Evan's attempt to once again lecture and display his
electrical "knowledge and insight" in his suggest to me, which, along
with other truncated comments, you've so conveniently, intentionally,
purposefully and cravenly snipped.

Or Pig Latin.

Is that an attempt to indicate that you too (or should that be two)
were totally flummoxed by that which wouldn't start to bewilder a
retarded 10 year old in a hurry, i.e., the ROT13? Or might it have
been the legal principle of res ipsa loquitur you mistook for "Pig
Latin"? You're evidently quite easily confused, particularly by "that
there book learnin'", or so you've provided every indication. Should
it have been your intention to serve as Evan's either "savior to the
rescue", or simply his surrogate, it is my considered opinion that you
too have failed most miserably and have accomplished nothing more
than joining him in the ranks of complete and utter embarrassments.

But don't let me stop you, do continue to keep digging that hole.

hilarious, you should seriously consider taking that pathetically
feeble Dr. Irwin Corey-esque imitative routine on the road.

~~ Evan

Other than using the fancy latin legal phraseology you have
yet to explain what duty of care exists as far as anything in
this thread OR how this unexplained phenomena speaks
anything let alone about itself in a legally sufficient way for
a lawsuit to be won or lost...

Let's look at the situation being discussed he

Let's not, as none of my comments, nor any of those either you or
KW (hopefully the abbreviation won't also confuse you) have objected
to heretofore, had the slightest thing to do with anything other than
the posting of a picture, although, given your laughably indefensible
rebuttals, I can readily understand your desperate desire for
obfuscation and misdirection.

OP installs the "mirror" and an accident occurs --

The existence of the mirror itself means that the OP was
aware of and took action to mitigate some deficiency of
design or installation of the driveway... The fact that the
mirror itself exists creates an increased duty of care on
the part of the OP because he has been aware of some
danger so when an accident eventually occurs he will
face a much greater burden to overcome in proving it
wasn't his fault...

OP cuts down all the brush to improve visibility --

The trimming of the bushes by themselves proves nothing,
it is just as reasonable an assertion to make that the brush
was trimmed and/or removed to allow for a wider path in the
driveway, to reduce the chance that brush overhanging the
driveway would scratch the OP's vehicles... Increasing the
visibility is only one reasonable explanation for explaining
the fact that the brush was cut down...

A mirror can only be used to increase visibility -- cutting
bushes/brush away can have many numerous causalities...

So do you want to fit your fancy words to the case at point
counselor

I'm not a counselor, in the legal sense you imply, I'm an engineer.

or do you want to espouse more of your bull****
and pig latin non-sense ?

You've not come REMOTELY close to describing ANYTHING I've
penned as either bull****, pig latin or nonsense. You should be

Really? Explain what value bringing up Norton and Thevenin
equivalent circuit has added to the conversation?

Not only was it clearly implicit, it was later explained in painful
detail to you already, so I'm quite sure any additional spoonfed
instruction is certain to also strike nothing save more dead brain
cells and would accordingly continue to only serve to mimic your
own "contributions" as a complete waste of time and bandwidth.

Wait! I know Nothing.

With the simple, astute deletion of a single element of
punctuation, I've fixed it for you and clarified its truth.

embarrassed, and would be, had you the capacity to be.

PS The reason for the truncated earlier osts is due to the
servers complaint and restriction of "too many quoted lines".

~~ Evan

On Jan 29, 11:46*am, Hoof Hearted wrote:
Evan wrote:
And you if you have your Ph.D or other advanced degree
in Computer Science and have become nothing more than
a Usenet troll,

And IF my Aunt bore testicles, I'd refer to her as Uncle. But
given that your post was a vacuous proposal/complaint in
response to my jest, I respectfully submit that should you

Your Jest? *Posting a pic to a text group is not easy. *That was just
a joke. *Right?

If you have something to say, do by all means state it, if you can
possibly manage to muster the necessary intestinal fortitude.

have a desire to locate the actual troll, I suggest you take
a look in the general vicinity of the nearest mirror.

I would say that is more damning evidence
against all people who possess that level of education in
the subject matter as opposed to your condemnation of
people located in the same geographical area of the world
where my VPN server happens to be located...
located...

Again the obvious, save to anyone other than yourself,
quite effectively escapes your conspicuously paralytic grasp.

Why don't you read the thread posted by the idiot
that wanted to drop a capacitor in a bathtub and
try your own similar experiment...

Yet even more risible lecturing from a poseur that undoubtedly
couldn't, this time, begin to describe the simple distinction
between a Norton and Thevenin equivalent circuit. You're

Norton and Thevenin equivalent circuit?

Yes, they're really rather fundamental circuit analysis techniques
and concepts students are introduced to (and are expected to
easily master) in a first year electrical circuits class. From your
approach. my guess would be that you're, at best, possibly a
vocationally trained electrician and have never in the past even so
much as heard of either, as I can't imagine any competent person
familiar with them posing such an otherwise brain dead pretense.

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, try to baffle them with
bull****.

Your proposing such rudiments to be bull**** only serves to expose
you as the incompetent you clearly must be, and your bull****
allusion, sans actual brilliant content (or any germane content
whatsoever), certainly hasn't attained its desired goal in successfully
leading to any confusion. But the truest form of bull**** pretension
was in fact Evan's attempt to once again lecture and display his
electrical "knowledge and insight" in his suggest to me, which, along
with other truncated comments, you've so conveniently, intentionally,
purposefully and cravenly snipped.

Or Pig Latin.

Is that an attempt to indicate that you too (or should that be two)
were totally flummoxed by that which wouldn't start to bewilder a
retarded 10 year old in a hurry, i.e., the ROT13? Or might it have
been the legal principle of res ipsa loquitur you mistook for "Pig
Latin"? You're evidently quite easily confused, particularly by "that
there book learnin'", or so you've provided every indication. Should
it have been your intention to serve as Evan's either "savior to the
rescue", or simply his surrogate, it is my considered opinion that you
too have failed most miserably and have accomplished nothing more
than joining him in the ranks of complete and utter embarrassments.

But don't let me stop you, do continue to keep digging that hole.

hilarious, you should seriously consider taking that pathetically
feeble Dr. Irwin Corey-esque imitative routine on the road.

~~ Evan

Other than using the fancy latin legal phraseology you have
yet to explain what duty of care exists as far as anything in
this thread OR how this unexplained phenomena speaks
anything let alone about itself in a legally sufficient way for
a lawsuit to be won or lost...

Let's look at the situation being discussed he

Let's not, as none of my comments, nor any of those either you or
KW (hopefully the abbreviation won't also confuse you) have objected
to heretofore, had the slightest thing to do with anything other than
the posting of a picture, although, given your laughably indefensible
rebuttals, I can readily understand your desperate desire for
obfuscation and misdirection.









OP installs the "mirror" and an accident occurs --

The existence of the mirror itself means that the OP was
aware of and took action to mitigate some deficiency of
design or installation of the driveway... *The fact that the
mirror itself exists creates an increased duty of care on
the part of the OP because he has been aware of some
danger so when an accident eventually occurs he will
face a much greater burden to overcome in proving it
wasn't his fault...

OP cuts down all the brush to improve visibility --

The trimming of the bushes by themselves proves nothing,
it is just as reasonable an assertion to make that the brush
was trimmed and/or removed to allow for a wider path in the
driveway, to reduce the chance that brush overhanging the
driveway would scratch the OP's vehicles... *Increasing the
visibility is only one reasonable explanation for explaining
the fact that the brush was cut down...

A mirror can only be used to increase visibility -- cutting
bushes/brush away can have many numerous causalities...

So do you want to fit your fancy words to the case at point
counselor

I'm not a counselor, in the legal sense you imply, I'm an engineer.

or do you want to espouse more of your bull****
and pig latin non-sense ?

You've not come REMOTELY close to describing ANYTHING I've
penned as either bull****, pig latin or nonsense. You should be
embarrassed, and would be, had you the capacity to be.

PS The reason for the truncated earlier osts is due to the
servers complaint and restriction of "too many quoted lines".







~~ Evan


Ah, an engineer...

Let's give you something to ponder and study then:

Is it more difficult to design a system to extract your
head from your own ass, or a system to remove the
keyboard from your computer which I am more than
sure I am not the only one here which would gladly
insert into the aforementioned orifice for you...

The only thing you have done is use latin legal phrases
totally out of context to make your Engineering brain
seem more educated than the other people here...

It isn't and you have yet to explain how your use of
the phrase has any bearing on anything said here
thus far... Perhaps in addition to being an intelligent
Engineer, you have also lost touch with reality, hence
your need to speak in tongues and your flawed
perceptions and interpretations of what is being said...

Either that or you are just a stupid f***ing troll...

My vote is for troll...

~~ Evan

On Jan 29, 1:32*pm, Hoof Hearted wrote:
Metspitzer wrote:
Again the obvious, save to anyone other than yourself,
quite effectively escapes your conspicuously paralytic grasp.

Why don't you read the thread posted by the idiot
that wanted to drop a capacitor in a bathtub and
try your own similar experiment...

Yet even more risible lecturing from a poseur that undoubtedly
couldn't, this time, begin to describe the simple distinction
between a Norton and Thevenin equivalent circuit. You're

Norton and Thevenin equivalent circuit?

Yes, they're really rather fundamental circuit analysis techniques
and concepts students are introduced to (and are expected to
easily master) in a first year electrical circuits class. From your
approach. my guess would be that you're, at best, possibly a
vocationally trained electrician and have never in the past even so
much as heard of either, as I can't imagine any competent person
familiar with them posing such an otherwise brain dead pretense.

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, try to baffle them with
bull****.

Your proposing such rudiments to be bull**** only serves to expose
you as the incompetent you clearly must be, and your bull****
allusion, sans actual brilliant content (or any germane content
whatsoever), certainly hasn't attained its desired goal in successfully
leading to any confusion. But the truest form of bull**** pretension
was in fact Evan's attempt to once again lecture and display his
electrical "knowledge and insight" in his suggest to me, which, along
with other truncated comments, you've so conveniently, intentionally,
purposefully and cravenly snipped.

Or Pig Latin.

Is that an attempt to indicate that you too (or should that be two)
were totally flummoxed by that which wouldn't start to bewilder a
retarded 10 year old in a hurry, i.e., the ROT13? Or might it have
been the legal principle of res ipsa loquitur you mistook for "Pig
Latin"? You're evidently quite easily confused, particularly by "that
there book learnin'", or so you've provided every indication. Should
it have been your intention to serve as Evan's either "savior to the
rescue", or simply his surrogate, it is my considered opinion that you
too have failed most miserably and have accomplished nothing more
than joining him in the ranks of complete and utter embarrassments.

But don't let me stop you, do continue to keep digging that hole.

hilarious, you should seriously consider taking that pathetically
feeble Dr. Irwin Corey-esque imitative routine on the road.

~~ Evan

Other than using the fancy latin legal phraseology you have
yet to explain what duty of care exists as far as anything in
this thread OR how this unexplained phenomena speaks
anything let alone about itself in a legally sufficient way for
a lawsuit to be won or lost...

Let's look at the situation being discussed he

Let's not, as none of my comments, nor any of those either you or
KW (hopefully the abbreviation won't also confuse you) have objected
to heretofore, had the slightest thing to do with anything other than
the posting of a picture, although, given your laughably indefensible
rebuttals, I can readily understand your desperate desire for
obfuscation and misdirection.

OP installs the "mirror" and an accident occurs --

The existence of the mirror itself means that the OP was
aware of and took action to mitigate some deficiency of
design or installation of the driveway... *The fact that the
mirror itself exists creates an increased duty of care on
the part of the OP because he has been aware of some
danger so when an accident eventually occurs he will
face a much greater burden to overcome in proving it
wasn't his fault...

OP cuts down all the brush to improve visibility --

The trimming of the bushes by themselves proves nothing,
it is just as reasonable an assertion to make that the brush
was trimmed and/or removed to allow for a wider path in the
driveway, to reduce the chance that brush overhanging the
driveway would scratch the OP's vehicles... *Increasing the
visibility is only one reasonable explanation for explaining
the fact that the brush was cut down...

A mirror can only be used to increase visibility -- cutting
bushes/brush away can have many numerous causalities...

So do you want to fit your fancy words to the case at point
counselor

I'm not a counselor, in the legal sense you imply, I'm an engineer.

or do you want to espouse more of your bull****
and pig latin non-sense ?

You've not come REMOTELY close to describing ANYTHING I've
penned as either bull****, pig latin or nonsense. You should be

Really? * Explain what value bringing up Norton and Thevenin
equivalent circuit has added to the conversation?

Not only was it clearly implicit, it was later explained in painful
detail to you already, so I'm quite sure any additional spoonfed
instruction is certain to also strike nothing save more dead brain
cells and would accordingly continue to only serve to mimic your
own "contributions" as a complete waste of time and bandwidth.

Wait! *I know Nothing.

With the simple, astute deletion of a single element of
punctuation, I've fixed it for you and clarified its truth.







embarrassed, and would be, had you the capacity to be.

PS The reason for the truncated earlier osts is due to the
servers complaint and restriction of "too many quoted lines".

~~ Evan

** SNIFF **

Troll... Definitely troll...

Evan wrote:

Or Pig Latin.

Is that an attempt to indicate that you too (or should that be two)
were totally flummoxed by that which wouldn't start to bewilder a
retarded 10 year old in a hurry, i.e., the ROT13? Or might it have
been the legal principle of res ipsa loquitur you mistook for "Pig
Latin"? You're evidently quite easily confused, particularly by "that
there book learnin'", or so you've provided every indication. Should
it have been your intention to serve as Evan's either "savior to the
rescue", or simply his surrogate, it is my considered opinion that you
too have failed most miserably and have accomplished nothing more
than joining him in the ranks of complete and utter embarrassments.

But don't let me stop you, do continue to keep digging that hole.

hilarious, you should seriously consider taking that pathetically
feeble Dr. Irwin Corey-esque imitative routine on the road.

~~ Evan

Other than using the fancy latin legal phraseology you have
yet to explain what duty of care exists as far as anything in
this thread OR how this unexplained phenomena speaks
anything let alone about itself in a legally sufficient way for
a lawsuit to be won or lost...

Let's look at the situation being discussed he

Let's not, as none of my comments, nor any of those either you or
KW (hopefully the abbreviation won't also confuse you) have objected
to heretofore, had the slightest thing to do with anything other than
the posting of a picture, although, given your laughably indefensible
rebuttals, I can readily understand your desperate desire for
obfuscation and misdirection.

OP installs the "mirror" and an accident occurs --

The existence of the mirror itself means that the OP was
aware of and took action to mitigate some deficiency of
design or installation of the driveway... *The fact that the
mirror itself exists creates an increased duty of care on
the part of the OP because he has been aware of some
danger so when an accident eventually occurs he will
face a much greater burden to overcome in proving it
wasn't his fault...

OP cuts down all the brush to improve visibility --

The trimming of the bushes by themselves proves nothing,
it is just as reasonable an assertion to make that the brush
was trimmed and/or removed to allow for a wider path in the
driveway, to reduce the chance that brush overhanging the
driveway would scratch the OP's vehicles... *Increasing the
visibility is only one reasonable explanation for explaining
the fact that the brush was cut down...

A mirror can only be used to increase visibility -- cutting
bushes/brush away can have many numerous causalities...

So do you want to fit your fancy words to the case at point
counselor

I'm not a counselor, in the legal sense you imply, I'm an engineer.

or do you want to espouse more of your bull****
and pig latin non-sense ?

You've not come REMOTELY close to describing ANYTHING I've
penned as either bull****, pig latin or nonsense. You should be

Really? * Explain what value bringing up Norton and Thevenin
equivalent circuit has added to the conversation?

Not only was it clearly implicit, it was later explained in painful
detail to you already, so I'm quite sure any additional spoonfed
instruction is certain to also strike nothing save more dead brain
cells and would accordingly continue to only serve to mimic your
own "contributions" as a complete waste of time and bandwidth.

Wait! *I know Nothing.

With the simple, astute deletion of a single element of
punctuation, I've fixed it for you and clarified its truth.

embarrassed, and would be, had you the capacity to be.

PS The reason for the truncated earlier osts is due to the
servers complaint and restriction of "too many quoted lines".

~~ Evan

** SNIFF **

Troll... Definitely troll...

You're a good driver, definitely a good driver.

But here, one final time, is an analogous approach to the reasoning
for my N&TEC cite, although also unlikely, you just might be capable
of understanding, given that you haven't been able to grasp the
patently obvious presented to you umpteen times already:

In this scenario we have an umpire (me) calling the base runner
out at 3rd while the height challenged, one-eyed, bespectacled,
mental patient sitting at the rear of the far right field stands,
directly behind a roof post (you) screams at the top of his lungs
that the 3rd baseman missed the tag (with apologies to Uecker).

I'll waste not another nanosecond either reading or responding
to your inane posts or replies anywhere on usenet.

On Jan 29, 2:23*pm, Hoof Hearted wrote:
Evan wrote:
Or Pig Latin.

Is that an attempt to indicate that you too (or should that be two)
were totally flummoxed by that which wouldn't start to bewilder a
retarded 10 year old in a hurry, i.e., the ROT13? Or might it have
been the legal principle of res ipsa loquitur you mistook for "Pig
Latin"? You're evidently quite easily confused, particularly by "that
there book learnin'", or so you've provided every indication. Should
it have been your intention to serve as Evan's either "savior to the
rescue", or simply his surrogate, it is my considered opinion that you
too have failed most miserably and have accomplished nothing more
than joining him in the ranks of complete and utter embarrassments.

But don't let me stop you, do continue to keep digging that hole.

hilarious, you should seriously consider taking that pathetically
feeble Dr. Irwin Corey-esque imitative routine on the road.

~~ Evan

Other than using the fancy latin legal phraseology you have
yet to explain what duty of care exists as far as anything in
this thread OR how this unexplained phenomena speaks
anything let alone about itself in a legally sufficient way for
a lawsuit to be won or lost...

Let's look at the situation being discussed he

Let's not, as none of my comments, nor any of those either you or
KW (hopefully the abbreviation won't also confuse you) have objected
to heretofore, had the slightest thing to do with anything other than
the posting of a picture, although, given your laughably indefensible
rebuttals, I can readily understand your desperate desire for
obfuscation and misdirection.

OP installs the "mirror" and an accident occurs --

The existence of the mirror itself means that the OP was
aware of and took action to mitigate some deficiency of
design or installation of the driveway... *The fact that the
mirror itself exists creates an increased duty of care on
the part of the OP because he has been aware of some
danger so when an accident eventually occurs he will
face a much greater burden to overcome in proving it
wasn't his fault...

OP cuts down all the brush to improve visibility --

The trimming of the bushes by themselves proves nothing,
it is just as reasonable an assertion to make that the brush
was trimmed and/or removed to allow for a wider path in the
driveway, to reduce the chance that brush overhanging the
driveway would scratch the OP's vehicles... *Increasing the
visibility is only one reasonable explanation for explaining
the fact that the brush was cut down...

A mirror can only be used to increase visibility -- cutting
bushes/brush away can have many numerous causalities...

So do you want to fit your fancy words to the case at point
counselor

I'm not a counselor, in the legal sense you imply, I'm an engineer.

or do you want to espouse more of your bull****
and pig latin non-sense ?

You've not come REMOTELY close to describing ANYTHING I've
penned as either bull****, pig latin or nonsense. You should be

Really? * Explain what value bringing up Norton and Thevenin
equivalent circuit has added to the conversation?

Not only was it clearly implicit, it was later explained in painful
detail to you already, so I'm quite sure any additional spoonfed
instruction is certain to also strike nothing save more dead brain
cells and would accordingly continue to only serve to mimic your
own "contributions" as a complete waste of time and bandwidth.

Wait! *I know Nothing.

With the simple, astute deletion of a single element of
punctuation, I've fixed it for you and clarified its truth.

embarrassed, and would be, had you the capacity to be.

PS The reason for the truncated earlier osts is due to the
servers complaint and restriction of "too many quoted lines".

~~ Evan

** SNIFF **

Troll... *Definitely troll...

You're a good driver, definitely a good driver.

But here, one final time, is an analogous approach to the reasoning
for my N&TEC cite, although also unlikely, you just might be capable
of understanding, given that you haven't been able to grasp the
patently obvious presented to you umpteen times already:

In this scenario we have an umpire (me) calling the base runner
out at 3rd while the height challenged, one-eyed, bespectacled,
mental patient sitting at the rear of the far right field stands,
directly behind a roof post (you) screams at the top of his lungs
that the 3rd baseman missed the tag (with apologies to Uecker).

I'll waste not another nanosecond either reading or responding
to your inane posts or replies anywhere on usenet.


AWWWWWWW....

Why should I care about what a troll with all of 14 posts on
UseNet thinks... Go hide back under a bridge, or better yet
emerge with a new persona/identity in a few days on another
group like you trolls tend to do...

You added NOTHING to this topic discussion...

Hoping that you choose to find something useful to do with
yourself that doesn't involve the internet...

~~ Evan

Evan wrote:
On Jan 29, 2:23 pm, Hoof Hearted wrote:
Evan wrote:

AWWWWWWW....

Why should I care about what a troll with all of 14 posts on
UseNet thinks... Go hide back under a bridge, or better yet
emerge with a new persona/identity in a few days on another
group like you trolls tend to do...

You added NOTHING to this topic discussion...

Hoping that you choose to find something useful to do with
yourself that doesn't involve the internet...

~~ Evan

Sorry, but I agree with Hoof on this. He had you two dead-to-rights on
every point, in my opinion.

People always make the mistake of installing a convex mirror. This is nearly useless, since it exaggerates distance and makes everything more than a few feet away a tiny speck.

Your main concern is traffic in the nearest lane, which means coming from the left. Thus, your best bet is to put a FLAT mirror that lets you see down the road to your left. If there's nothing coming from the left, you can nose out into the road and take a look to your right.

On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 15:21:51 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

People always make the mistake of installing a convex mirror. This is nearly useless, since it exaggerates distance and makes everything more than a few feet away a tiny speck.

Your main concern is traffic in the nearest lane, which means coming from the left. Thus, your best bet is to put a FLAT mirror that lets you see down the road to your left. If there's nothing coming from the left, you can nose out into the road and take a look to your right.

Well I'll be damned!. Strange things I see on Usenet this time of day.

On 10/25/2017 3:19 PM, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 15:21:51 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

People always make the mistake of installing a convex mirror. This is nearly useless, since it exaggerates distance and makes everything more than a few feet away a tiny speck.

Your main concern is traffic in the nearest lane, which means coming from the left. Thus, your best bet is to put a FLAT mirror that lets you see down the road to your left. If there's nothing coming from the left, you can nose out into the road and take a look to your right.

Well I'll be damned!. Strange things I see on Usenet this time of day.


If I back out their is no traffic coming from my left so I don't have to
look at all.