I have a park model RV (38 ft). The RV is permanently set on a site in an
RV park. (This is a weekend/vaca home) We have a permanent sewer hook up
from RV to sewer via flexible pipe.
Occasionally the toilet bowl will drain. It seems to drain slowly. It's
most noticable overnite or when we arrive for weekend stay.
There are no noticable leaks inside around the toilet or under trailer
around the pipe or connections.
Other than bowl draining toilet operates fine.
Could this be an issue with the plumbing vent stack being blocked ?
Any other thoughts or suggestions ?




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On Nov 30, 2:50*pm, "Mack29" wrote:
I have a park model RV (38 ft). The RV is permanently set on a site in an
RV park. (This is a weekend/vaca home) We have a permanent sewer hook up
from RV to sewer via flexible pipe.
Occasionally the toilet bowl will drain. It seems to drain slowly. It's
most noticable overnite or when we arrive for weekend stay.
There are no noticable leaks inside around the toilet or under trailer
around the pipe or connections.
Other than bowl draining toilet operates fine.
Could this be an issue with the plumbing vent stack being blocked ?
Any other thoughts or suggestions ?

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Sure sounds like a vent problem. Negative pressure pulling the water
out. Time to go up top and snake out the vent. Or just use a garden
hose.

On 11/30/2011 1:50 PM, Mack29 wrote:
I have a park model RV (38 ft). The RV is permanently set on a site in an
RV park. (This is a weekend/vaca home) We have a permanent sewer hook up
from RV to sewer via flexible pipe.
Occasionally the toilet bowl will drain. It seems to drain slowly. It's
most noticable overnite or when we arrive for weekend stay.
There are no noticable leaks inside around the toilet or under trailer
around the pipe or connections.
Other than bowl draining toilet operates fine.
Could this be an issue with the plumbing vent stack being blocked ?
Any other thoughts or suggestions ?



When I lived on an island at a military installation, the sewer was
under negative pressure because there was no way to properly put a
slope on the sewer lines and the sewer system always had pumps running
to keep the sewage flowing. I wonder if your RV park may have a similar
system because of the low flow of water through the system?

TDD

On 11/30/2011 1:50 PM, Mack29 wrote:
I have a park model RV (38 ft). The RV is permanently set on a site in
an
RV park. (This is a weekend/vaca home) We have a permanent sewer hook
up
from RV to sewer via flexible pipe.
Occasionally the toilet bowl will drain. It seems to drain slowly. It's
most noticable overnite or when we arrive for weekend stay.
There are no noticable leaks inside around the toilet or under trailer
around the pipe or connections.
Other than bowl draining toilet operates fine.
Could this be an issue with the plumbing vent stack being blocked ?
Any other thoughts or suggestions ?



When I lived on an island at a military installation, the sewer was
under negative pressure because there was no way to properly put a
slope on the sewer lines and the sewer system always had pumps running
to keep the sewage flowing. I wonder if your RV park may have a similar
system because of the low flow of water through the system?

TDD


I don't think it's a slope problem. None of my neighbors are experiencing
this issue.
Thanks.

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On 12/1/2011 9:18 PM, Mack29 wrote:
On 11/30/2011 1:50 PM, Mack29 wrote:
I have a park model RV (38 ft). The RV is permanently set on a site in
an
RV park. (This is a weekend/vaca home) We have a permanent sewer hook
up
from RV to sewer via flexible pipe.
Occasionally the toilet bowl will drain. It seems to drain slowly. It's
most noticable overnite or when we arrive for weekend stay.
There are no noticable leaks inside around the toilet or under trailer
around the pipe or connections.
Other than bowl draining toilet operates fine.
Could this be an issue with the plumbing vent stack being blocked ?
Any other thoughts or suggestions ?



When I lived on an island at a military installation, the sewer was
under negative pressure because there was no way to properly put a
slope on the sewer lines and the sewer system always had pumps running
to keep the sewage flowing. I wonder if your RV park may have a similar
system because of the low flow of water through the system?

TDD


I don't think it's a slope problem. None of my neighbors are experiencing
this issue.
Thanks.


Do you ever hear any bubbling or gurgling coming from the bathroom?

TDD

On 12/1/2011 9:18 PM, Mack29 wrote:
On 11/30/2011 1:50 PM, Mack29 wrote:
I have a park model RV (38 ft). The RV is permanently set on a site
in
an
RV park. (This is a weekend/vaca home) We have a permanent sewer hook
up
from RV to sewer via flexible pipe.
Occasionally the toilet bowl will drain. It seems to drain slowly.
It's
most noticable overnite or when we arrive for weekend stay.
There are no noticable leaks inside around the toilet or under
trailer
around the pipe or connections.
Other than bowl draining toilet operates fine.
Could this be an issue with the plumbing vent stack being blocked ?
Any other thoughts or suggestions ?



When I lived on an island at a military installation, the sewer was
under negative pressure because there was no way to properly put a
slope on the sewer lines and the sewer system always had pumps running
to keep the sewage flowing. I wonder if your RV park may have a
similar
system because of the low flow of water through the system?

TDD


I don't think it's a slope problem. None of my neighbors are
experiencing
this issue.
Thanks.


Do you ever hear any bubbling or gurgling coming from the bathroom?

TDD



No noises. It's just a slow silent drain of the bowl. If you flush it
refills fine. (then slowly drains again)
I'm leaning towards a stack problem. Maybe a wasp's nest or something
similar. I'm just hoping that when I look down there with a flashlight,
nothing is looking back at me.

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On Nov 30, 2:50*pm, "Mack29" wrote:
Could this be an issue with the plumbing vent stack being blocked ?

In the time it took you to get to this point, you could've already
checked that, or had it checked if you aren't capable of getting up on
the roof.

could be a piece of sting wicking the water out of the bowl

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On 12/1/2011 9:18 PM, Mack29 wrote:
On 11/30/2011 1:50 PM, Mack29 wrote:
I have a park model RV (38 ft). The RV is permanently set on a site
in
an
RV park. (This is a weekend/vaca home) We have a permanent sewer hook
up
from RV to sewer via flexible pipe.
Occasionally the toilet bowl will drain. It seems to drain slowly.
It's
most noticable overnite or when we arrive for weekend stay.
There are no noticable leaks inside around the toilet or under
trailer
around the pipe or connections.
Other than bowl draining toilet operates fine.
Could this be an issue with the plumbing vent stack being blocked ?
Any other thoughts or suggestions ?



When I lived on an island at a military installation, the sewer was
under negative pressure because there was no way to properly put a
slope on the sewer lines and the sewer system always had pumps running
to keep the sewage flowing. I wonder if your RV park may have a
similar
system because of the low flow of water through the system?

TDD


I don't think it's a slope problem. None of my neighbors are
experiencing
this issue.
Thanks.


Do you ever hear any bubbling or gurgling coming from the bathroom?

TDD



No noises. It's just a slow silent drain of the bowl. If you flush it
refills fine. (then slowly drains again)
I'm leaning towards a stack problem. Maybe a wasp's nest or something
similar. I'm just hoping that when I look down there with a flashlight,
nothing is looking back at me.

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On Nov 30, 2:50=A0pm, "Mack29" wrote:
Could this be an issue with the plumbing vent stack being blocked ?

In the time it took you to get to this point, you could've already
checked that, or had it checked if you aren't capable of getting up on
the roof.


Thank you for your brilliant insight.

If the trailer were parked in my yard I would have done as you suggested.
However, the trailer is 75 mile away and closed down for the winter.
I figured I would post the question here and get a few ideas. In the spring
will then take the appropriate tools and or suggestions and proceed from
there.

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I have a park model RV (38 ft). The RV is permanently set on a site in an
RV park. (This is a weekend/vaca home) We have a permanent sewer hook up
from RV to sewer via flexible pipe.
Occasionally the toilet bowl will drain. It seems to drain slowly. It's
most noticable overnite or when we arrive for weekend stay.
There are no noticable leaks inside around the toilet or under trailer
around the pipe or connections.
Other than bowl draining toilet operates fine.
Could this be an issue with the plumbing vent stack being blocked ?
Any other thoughts or suggestions ?


Black Pyramid. Look down the hole with a flashlight and see what you can.
You will probably see a black pyramid. Most people think that when they
park a motor home that you just open the valves, and the poop runs straight
through. It does not. It drops onto the flat floor of the holding tank,
and the watery part flows off. Most of the exit pipes from a holding tank
are on the sides, not the bottoms, and some are an inch or more up from the
bottom. Over a time, this builds up an ever hardening black pyramid. To do
it properly, you must use it just like you do on the road. Empty it, close
the valves, fill it partially with water, use it, and when nearly full,
flush it out. Since you will not have the agitation that driving the MH
produces, you may have to assist this out of the tank. This can be done in
two ways. One is through the wall of the tank sprayers. Cost isn't bad,
installation not bad, but drilling new holes in holding tank might be. The
second is a simple PVC pipe with a cap on the end with holes drilled in it
to make a downward and outward sprayer. When flushing, put it in the open
top, and turn on water so that it flushes everything out. Put one of those
little 90 degree valves right where the hose joins the PVC, and you can
control it while watching it. I bought one that had a black pyramid, and it
took eight hours of flushing with the PVC wand at full force before the
pyramid broke up and went out the pipe.

This is a very common error among people who park MHs for a long period of
time. If this IS actually never ever going to move again, removal of the
holding tank, and installation of a continuous line would be the thing to
do. But who knows what will happen down the road, and selling the vehicle
without a holding tank may be a problem.

You say it has a permanent hookup. This might be true, but without the
total removal of a holding tank, the poop only goes as far as the holding
tank floor.

HTH

Steve

I have a park model RV (38 ft). The RV is permanently set on a site in
an
RV park. (This is a weekend/vaca home) We have a permanent sewer hook
up
from RV to sewer via flexible pipe.
Occasionally the toilet bowl will drain. It seems to drain slowly.
It's
most noticable overnite or when we arrive for weekend stay.
There are no noticable leaks inside around the toilet or under trailer
around the pipe or connections.
Other than bowl draining toilet operates fine.
Could this be an issue with the plumbing vent stack being blocked ?
Any other thoughts or suggestions ?


Black Pyramid. Look down the hole with a flashlight and see what you can.

You will probably see a black pyramid. Most people think that when they
park a motor home that you just open the valves, and the poop runs
straight
through. It does not. It drops onto the flat floor of the holding tank,

and the watery part flows off. Most of the exit pipes from a holding tank

are on the sides, not the bottoms, and some are an inch or more up from
the
bottom. Over a time, this builds up an ever hardening black pyramid. To
do
it properly, you must use it just like you do on the road. Empty it,
close
the valves, fill it partially with water, use it, and when nearly full,
flush it out. Since you will not have the agitation that driving the MH
produces, you may have to assist this out of the tank. This can be done
in
two ways. One is through the wall of the tank sprayers. Cost isn't bad,

installation not bad, but drilling new holes in holding tank might be.
The
second is a simple PVC pipe with a cap on the end with holes drilled in it

to make a downward and outward sprayer. When flushing, put it in the open

top, and turn on water so that it flushes everything out. Put one of
those
little 90 degree valves right where the hose joins the PVC, and you can
control it while watching it. I bought one that had a black pyramid, and
it
took eight hours of flushing with the PVC wand at full force before the
pyramid broke up and went out the pipe.

This is a very common error among people who park MHs for a long period of

time. If this IS actually never ever going to move again, removal of the

holding tank, and installation of a continuous line would be the thing to

do. But who knows what will happen down the road, and selling the vehicle

without a holding tank may be a problem.

You say it has a permanent hookup. This might be true, but without the
total removal of a holding tank, the poop only goes as far as the holding

tank floor.

HTH

Steve



Steve, thanks for the reply. My RV does not have a holding tank. The RV is
a park model. there is a direct hook up (a 5" corregated hose) from the
trailer waste connection to the sewer hook up.

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I have a park model RV (38 ft). The RV is permanently set on a site in
an
RV park. (This is a weekend/vaca home) We have a permanent sewer hook up
from RV to sewer via flexible pipe.
Occasionally the toilet bowl will drain. It seems to drain slowly. It's
most noticable overnite or when we arrive for weekend stay.
There are no noticable leaks inside around the toilet or under trailer
around the pipe or connections.
Other than bowl draining toilet operates fine.
Could this be an issue with the plumbing vent stack being blocked ?
Any other thoughts or suggestions ?


Black Pyramid. Look down the hole with a flashlight and see what you can.
You will probably see a black pyramid. Most people think that when they
park a motor home that you just open the valves, and the poop runs
straight through. It does not. It drops onto the flat floor of the
holding tank, and the watery part flows off. Most of the exit pipes from
a holding tank are on the sides, not the bottoms, and some are an inch or
more up from the bottom. Over a time, this builds up an ever hardening
black pyramid. To do it properly, you must use it just like you do on the
road. Empty it, close the valves, fill it partially with water, use it,
and when nearly full, flush it out. Since you will not have the agitation
that driving the MH produces, you may have to assist this out of the tank.
This can be done in two ways. One is through the wall of the tank
sprayers. Cost isn't bad, installation not bad, but drilling new holes in
holding tank might be. The second is a simple PVC pipe with a cap on the
end with holes drilled in it to make a downward and outward sprayer. When
flushing, put it in the open top, and turn on water so that it flushes
everything out. Put one of those little 90 degree valves right where the
hose joins the PVC, and you can control it while watching it. I bought
one that had a black pyramid, and it took eight hours of flushing with the
PVC wand at full force before the pyramid broke up and went out the pipe.

This is a very common error among people who park MHs for a long period of
time. If this IS actually never ever going to move again, removal of the
holding tank, and installation of a continuous line would be the thing to
do. But who knows what will happen down the road, and selling the vehicle
without a holding tank may be a problem.

You say it has a permanent hookup. This might be true, but without the
total removal of a holding tank, the poop only goes as far as the holding
tank floor.

HTH

Steve

May have spoken prematurely. Is your park model a manufactured home, or a
true RV with self propelling motor? Does it even have holding tanks?

All the above is true only for models with holding tanks. Otherwise, I
don't have a clue as to your problem or solution.

Steve

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I have a park model RV (38 ft). The RV is permanently set on a site in

an
RV park. (This is a weekend/vaca home) We have a permanent sewer hook
up
from RV to sewer via flexible pipe.
Occasionally the toilet bowl will drain. It seems to drain slowly.
It's
most noticable overnite or when we arrive for weekend stay.
There are no noticable leaks inside around the toilet or under
trailer
around the pipe or connections.
Other than bowl draining toilet operates fine.
Could this be an issue with the plumbing vent stack being blocked ?
Any other thoughts or suggestions ?


Black Pyramid. Look down the hole with a flashlight and see what you
can.
You will probably see a black pyramid. Most people think that when they

park a motor home that you just open the valves, and the poop runs
straight through. It does not. It drops onto the flat floor of the
holding tank, and the watery part flows off. Most of the exit pipes
from
a holding tank are on the sides, not the bottoms, and some are an inch
or
more up from the bottom. Over a time, this builds up an ever hardening

black pyramid. To do it properly, you must use it just like you do on
the
road. Empty it, close the valves, fill it partially with water, use it,

and when nearly full, flush it out. Since you will not have the
agitation
that driving the MH produces, you may have to assist this out of the
tank.
This can be done in two ways. One is through the wall of the tank
sprayers. Cost isn't bad, installation not bad, but drilling new holes
in
holding tank might be. The second is a simple PVC pipe with a cap on
the
end with holes drilled in it to make a downward and outward sprayer.
When
flushing, put it in the open top, and turn on water so that it flushes
everything out. Put one of those little 90 degree valves right where
the
hose joins the PVC, and you can control it while watching it. I bought

one that had a black pyramid, and it took eight hours of flushing with
the
PVC wand at full force before the pyramid broke up and went out the
pipe.

This is a very common error among people who park MHs for a long period
of
time. If this IS actually never ever going to move again, removal of
the
holding tank, and installation of a continuous line would be the thing
to
do. But who knows what will happen down the road, and selling the
vehicle
without a holding tank may be a problem.

You say it has a permanent hookup. This might be true, but without the

total removal of a holding tank, the poop only goes as far as the
holding
tank floor.

HTH

Steve

May have spoken prematurely. Is your park model a manufactured home, or a

true RV with self propelling motor? Does it even have holding tanks?

All the above is true only for models with holding tanks. Otherwise, I
don't have a clue as to your problem or solution.

Steve



It's a park model trailer. No motor. No holding tank.
Again, thanks for replying.

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Steve, thanks for the reply. My RV does not have a holding tank. The RV is
a park model. there is a direct hook up (a 5" corregated hose) from the
trailer waste connection to the sewer hook up.

Sorry, missed that on the original read. But black pyramids are a common
problem that is easily preventable. And a lot of people don't even suspect.

Let us know what the final diagnosis is.

Steve

When my toilet is flushed I get venting noise in my sinks. Had vent rod out.No smell , but still vents through sinks.