Smitty Two wrote in
news
In article .com,
(GOODCHICK) wrote:

hi
i am a homeowner shopping for light fixtures that i will have
installed. i have not yet decided on the installer.

This is a DIY group, not HSN.

i have 3 ceiling light fixtures that i dislike.

Your wife uses them for sex toys.

they are all the same and
are in the den, hallway & bathroom; they are 1 lamp units. all of the
fixtures that i like have 2 lamps. can i install a 2 lamp fixture in
place of a 1-lamp fixture?

No, you can't. You already stated that you'd be hiring the job out,
because you're too stupid to use a screwdriver.

is it going to cost a lot?

Yes. About $350 per fixture.

will i have to run \"2nd
lamp wiring?\" or, can i use existing wiring?

You aren't doing the job yourself, so why do you care? But to answer
your question, if the insulation on the wire is labeled "this ****
will work for two lamps, Maynard" then you're good to go.

OR do you know of any sites that have attractive 1 lamp fixtures?

No. All the 1 lamp fixtures are butt ugly, like your sister.

thank you for your time.


You're welcome. Here is another tip: This is USENET, and you won't
actually see and profit from my wisdom, because the stinking
homeowner's hub doesn't like me.

Sparky, errrr....Smitty:

Can we get an NEC cite for your advice?

Thanks,
Curious Red

On 4/20/2011 10:54 AM, Red Green wrote:
Smitty wrote in
news
OR do you know of any sites that have attractive 1 lamp fixtures?

No. All the 1 lamp fixtures are butt ugly, like your sister.

thank you for your time.


You're welcome. Here is another tip: This is USENET, and you won't
actually see and profit from my wisdom, because the stinking
homeowner's hub doesn't like me.

Sparky, errrr....Smitty:

Can we get an NEC cite for your advice?

Thanks,
Curious Red

260.14 (c)

260.14 (c)-

just by fixtures that use CFLs or LED which will keep the fixture
temperature down.

If you happen to have K&T its time to plan on a complete rewire.

On 4/21/2011 12:20 PM, bob haller wrote:
260.14 (c)-

just by fixtures that use CFLs or LED which will keep the fixture
temperature down.

A response that has absolutely noting to do with this branch of the thread.


If you happen to have K&T its time to plan on a complete rewire.

And the fetish referred to by RBM

And also absolutely noting to do with this branch of the thread.

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bud--

"bob haller" wrote in message
...
260.14 (c)-

just by fixtures that use CFLs or LED which will keep the fixture
temperature down.

If you happen to have K&T its time to plan on a complete rewire.

**Yes, but if the fixture has a tag that says something like: risk of fire,
do not install on wire with a temperature rating of less than 90 degrees.
Isn't the house inspector going to flag you at resale time, or how about
your insurance company not paying the claim when your house catches fire...
and I know you're an expert on K&T, but what about other types of
discontinued conductors like T, TW, RH. What should you do if you have that
in your walls?

On Apr 21, 4:13*pm, "RBM" wrote:
"bob haller" wrote in message

...

260.14 (c)-

just by fixtures that use CFLs or LED which will keep the fixture
temperature down.

If you happen to have K&T its time to plan on a complete rewire.

**Yes, but if the fixture has a tag that says something like: risk of fire,
do not install on wire with a temperature rating of less than 90 degrees.
Isn't the house inspector going to flag you at resale time, or how about
your insurance company not paying the claim when your house catches fire....
and I know you're an expert on K&T, but what about other types of
discontinued conductors like T, TW, RH. What should you do if you have that
in your walls?

WHO THE HELL HAS K&T THIS DAY & AGE?
YOU GUYS ARE TRIPPING.....LAY OFF THE MUSHROOMS WILL YOU.

PAT ECUM

On Apr 21, 11:00*pm, The Ghost in The Machine
wrote:
On Apr 21, 4:13*pm, "RBM" wrote:





"bob haller" wrote in message

....

260.14 (c)-

just by fixtures that use CFLs or LED which will keep the fixture
temperature down.

If you happen to have K&T its time to plan on a complete rewire.

**Yes, but if the fixture has a tag that says something like: risk of fire,
do not install on wire with a temperature rating of less than 90 degrees.
Isn't the house inspector going to flag you at resale time, or how about
your insurance company not paying the claim when your house catches fire...
and I know you're an expert on K&T, but what about other types of
discontinued conductors like T, TW, RH. What should you do if you have that
in your walls?

WHO THE HELL HAS K&T THIS DAY & AGE?
YOU GUYS ARE TRIPPING.....LAY OFF THE MUSHROOMS WILL YOU.

PAT ECUM- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Lots of people do, and they deny its difficult to impossible to get
homeowners insurance with K&T. no homeowners insurance means no one
can buy your home unless they pay cash and never have homeowners
insurance.

just the other night my best friend whos home is K&T discovered a
connection in the basement buzzing and smoking. he resoldered it.

he is 80 and says let the next owner take care of it.

he tried changing homeowners insurance company to save money, no one
will sell him a policy because of the K&T

On Apr 21, 11:09*pm, bob haller wrote:
On Apr 21, 11:00*pm, The Ghost in The Machine
wrote:





On Apr 21, 4:13*pm, "RBM" wrote:

"bob haller" wrote in message

....

260.14 (c)-

just by fixtures that use CFLs or LED which will keep the fixture
temperature down.

If you happen to have K&T its time to plan on a complete rewire.

**Yes, but if the fixture has a tag that says something like: risk of fire,
do not install on wire with a temperature rating of less than 90 degrees.
Isn't the house inspector going to flag you at resale time, or how about
your insurance company not paying the claim when your house catches fire...
and I know you're an expert on K&T, but what about other types of
discontinued conductors like T, TW, RH. What should you do if you have that
in your walls?

WHO THE HELL HAS K&T THIS DAY & AGE?
YOU GUYS ARE TRIPPING.....LAY OFF THE MUSHROOMS WILL YOU.

PAT ECUM- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Lots of people do, and they deny its difficult to impossible to get
homeowners insurance with K&T. no homeowners insurance means no one
can buy your home unless they pay cash and never have homeowners
insurance.

just the other night my best friend whos home is K&T discovered a
connection in the basement buzzing and smoking. he resoldered it.

he is 80 and says let the next owner take care of it.

he tried changing homeowners insurance company to save money, no one
will sell him a policy because of the K&T

FIRST OF ALL THE OP HASNT SAID A WORD ABOUT HOW OLD HER HOUSE IS,
SECOND OF ALL "THAT SUCKS" UPGRADES SHOULD BE MANDATORY IN SUCH CASES.
I'D TEAR IT ALL DOWN ASAP AND REWIRE THE ENTIRE DWELLING.

PAT ECUM

"The Ghost in The Machine" wrote in message
...
On Apr 21, 11:09 pm, bob haller wrote:
On Apr 21, 11:00 pm, The Ghost in The Machine
wrote:





On Apr 21, 4:13 pm, "RBM" wrote:

"bob haller" wrote in message

...

260.14 (c)-

just by fixtures that use CFLs or LED which will keep the fixture
temperature down.

If you happen to have K&T its time to plan on a complete rewire.

**Yes, but if the fixture has a tag that says something like: risk of
fire,
do not install on wire with a temperature rating of less than 90
degrees.
Isn't the house inspector going to flag you at resale time, or how
about
your insurance company not paying the claim when your house catches
fire...
and I know you're an expert on K&T, but what about other types of
discontinued conductors like T, TW, RH. What should you do if you have
that
in your walls?

WHO THE HELL HAS K&T THIS DAY & AGE?
YOU GUYS ARE TRIPPING.....LAY OFF THE MUSHROOMS WILL YOU.

PAT ECUM- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Lots of people do, and they deny its difficult to impossible to get
homeowners insurance with K&T. no homeowners insurance means no one
can buy your home unless they pay cash and never have homeowners
insurance.

just the other night my best friend whos home is K&T discovered a
connection in the basement buzzing and smoking. he resoldered it.

he is 80 and says let the next owner take care of it.

he tried changing homeowners insurance company to save money, no one
will sell him a policy because of the K&T

FIRST OF ALL THE OP HASNT SAID A WORD ABOUT HOW OLD HER HOUSE IS,
SECOND OF ALL "THAT SUCKS" UPGRADES SHOULD BE MANDATORY IN SUCH CASES.
I'D TEAR IT ALL DOWN ASAP AND REWIRE THE ENTIRE DWELLING.

PAT ECUM

**Maybe you have the ability and resources to do that. Not everyone is in
such a position. Personally, I would leave judgment of wiring types and
systems to those who know something about them. Having an antiquated wiring
type, isn't in and of itself, a hazard.