http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...-projects-diy/

Painting is on the list? Painting?! Sheesh.

R

On 02/28/2011 11:51 PM, RicodJour wrote:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...-projects-diy/

Painting is on the list? Painting?! Sheesh.

R

hah. I've already done half the stuff on that list at least. And IMHO
correctly, too.

nate

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FROM THAT ARTICLE!

Wiring is a whole other ballgame,” says Frank Rudy, owner of Rightway
Home Improvements in Babylon, New York. “We have opened up walls where
there is wiring just hanging there with no electrical tape, and they
are live. With older houses, these things happen.”

Wiring can pose a great risk to homeowners; although most appliances
in the home are only around 110 volts and won’t kill you, items like a
stove will have more power, gas lines can also be a big concern, warns
Rudy.

No electric tape should be used in home wiring, and 120 volts can
kill. Lets say your well grounded

110 volts hasnt been the norm for 40 years.

people who write articles should at least get a knowledgable person to
proofread for content accuracy......

On Mar 1, 5:49*am, Nate Nagel wrote:
On 02/28/2011 11:51 PM, RicodJour wrote:

http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...10-home-improv...

Painting is on the list? *Painting?! *Sheesh.

R

hah. *I've already done half the stuff on that list at least. *And IMHO
correctly, too.


We've done everything on the list except tiling (don't like tile) and
roofing (don't have the knees for it). We've done small roofing
projects,
including a penetration for a kitchen vent.

We've done a ton of stuff that isn't on the list (spray foam
insulation,
heating and air, concrete, et flaming cetera). I'll hold up our
siding
against any 10 crews. We weren't getting paid to rush, so we took
our time and did it right.

Pish tosh on foxbusiness.

Cindy Hamilton

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:51:05 -0800 (PST), RicodJour
wrote:

http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...-projects-diy/

Painting is on the list? Painting?! Sheesh.

I think that might be good advice for folks who are reading the
foxbusiness pages. Time spent painting is better spent researching
investments.g

Jim

On 2/28/2011 10:51 PM, RicodJour wrote:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...-projects-diy/

Painting is on the list? Painting?! Sheesh.

R
quote: "Ceiling fans get heavier when they are running as the downward
pressure of air adds more weight when the fan spins."

Amazing, when the fan is blowing air down it causes the fan to try
to move in the same direction as the air. Here I thought that
Newton told us the reaction is in the opposite direction. We may
need to completely revise all of our physics texts.

Bill

On Mar 1, 9:12*am, Bill Gill wrote:
quote: "Ceiling fans get heavier when they are running as the downward
pressure of air adds more weight when the fan spins."

Most ceiling fans are reversible (for circulating air in winter
without creating a draft). When running "backwards", the statement
above is true. Possibly a case of a clueless editor removing the
useful context.

On Mar 1, 2:22*pm, Larry Fishel wrote:
On Mar 1, 9:12*am, Bill Gill wrote:

quote: "Ceiling fans get heavier when they are running as the downward
pressure of air adds more weight when the fan spins."

Most ceiling fans are reversible (for circulating air in winter
without creating a draft). When running "backwards", the statement
above is true. Possibly a case of a clueless editor removing the
useful context.

When taken in context there is no useful context in that article.

R

On 3/1/2011 2:22 PM, Larry Fishel wrote:
On Mar 1, 9:12 am, Bill wrote:
quote: "Ceiling fans get heavier when they are running as the downward
pressure of air adds more weight when the fan spins."

Most ceiling fans are reversible (for circulating air in winter
without creating a draft). When running "backwards", the statement
above is true. Possibly a case of a clueless editor removing the
useful context.

I saw that, it depends on how you decipher it. Either way the
difference in the load from the air pressure is minuscule compared to
the weight of the fan.

On 2/28/2011 11:51 PM, RicodJour wrote:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...-projects-diy/

Painting is on the list? Painting?! Sheesh.

R

I think they should add hanging a picture. The homeowner might hit his
thumb while attempting to put a nail in the wall.

RicodJour wrote in
:

http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...-home-improvem
ent-projects-diy/

Painting is on the list? Painting?! Sheesh.

R


And she left out raking leaves. You can get the rake caught in your sneaker
laces, trip and fall. You'll lay there in the elements, starving and
possibly die like poor old Mrs. Fletcher.

http://oi53.tinypic.com/2j1og21.jpg

RicodJour wrote:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...-projects-diy/

Painting is on the list? Painting?! Sheesh.


That's Fox. Ask the people who most stand to profit what should be done.

On 2/28/2011 11:51 PM, RicodJour wrote:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...-projects-diy/

Painting is on the list? Painting?! Sheesh.

R
What do you expect from a website that promotes BUSINESS?

DIYers, be afraid, be VERY afraid. Call the "experts". It's good for
the business world.

I may not do my own roofing or tile work, but why should I pay a plumber
$100+ to come out to my house to replace the gasket, or even the entire
cartridge in my sink's washerless faucet? The article makes it sound as
though I'm foolhardy if I don't call an electrician every time I need to
change a light bulb.

If these rabidly pro-business policies impoverish potential customers,
those customers won't have the $$ to purchase the goods and services the
businesses are selling.

Henry Ford was a highly bigoted jerk as a human being, but he got at
least 1 thing right - he paid his workers well above the prevalent
factory wages because he wanted them to afford to buy his cars.

In article , Peter
wrote:


Henry Ford was a highly bigoted jerk as a human being, but he got at
least 1 thing right - he paid his workers well above the prevalent
factory wages because he wanted them to afford to buy his cars.

Yes, and to settle the crowd down, his henchmen only had to kill 3 of
those who came to apply for his outrageous $5/day jobs. The rest he
killed not with guns, but tortured them to death more slowly just by
cranking up the speed of the line.

"RicodJour" wrote in message
...

http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...-projects-diy/

Painting is on the list? Painting?! Sheesh.

How bizarre! I'm sure no expert, but I've painted and put on siding and
done a few roofs with friends and so on and so far none of those houses has
fallen down. So when doing plumbing we need to look out for slight leaks
when we're finished--well thanks, who would ever have thought of that?
Unintentional comedy is something Fox is good at.

It used to be that DIY types would ask on the internet and also read
books / instructions on how to do things right - learn about what they
are doing before they do it... No problem! The work will be done just
as good as a pro's or even better.

But these days I see lazy impatient people wanting someone else to
tell them step by step what to do or say an electrical problem, they
want someone to tell them what is wrong and step by step how to fix
it. They don't want to take the time to learn about things. - Sheep
syndrome. Can't learn/think on their own, need someone else to tell
them each and every step... In that case they should call a pro.

On Feb 28, 10:51*pm, RicodJour wrote:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...10-home-improv...

Painting is on the list? *Painting?! *Sheesh.

R

Well, for craps sake. The key to the entire article is the second
paragraph:

"We checked in with contracting experts nationwide to find the home
improvement or renovation projects you should not attempt without the
help of an experienced contractor."

Do you expect contractors to say they are a bunch of unskilled idiots
who don't need the money? Granted many folks should compare the job
with their skill set and weigh in the possible risks. But painting?
Tile? Cleaning your gutters?

We are becoming a society of helpless doofus's anyway. We don't need
help like this.

"RonB" wrote in message
...
On Feb 28, 10:51 pm, RicodJour wrote:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...10-home-improv...

Painting is on the list? Painting?! Sheesh.

R

Well, for craps sake. The key to the entire article is the second
paragraph:

"We checked in with contracting experts nationwide to find the home
improvement or renovation projects you should not attempt without the
help of an experienced contractor."

Do you expect contractors to say they are a bunch of unskilled idiots
who don't need the money? Granted many folks should compare the job
with their skill set and weigh in the possible risks. But painting?
Tile? Cleaning your gutters?

We are becoming a society of helpless doofus's anyway. We don't need
help like this.

reply:

Well, you must admit, a contractor is a licensed person, having worker's
compensation, training, testing, and experience. So what if they pick up
their workers daily from the local flop house or in front of Home depot. At
least one of them is licensed. And usually he can be found at the local bar
until fifteen minutes before quittin time when he comes back to pick up the
"crew".
Then the "crew" comes back some night when you're out for a pizza and cleans
you out.

Sheesh. Most painters I ever knew were alcoholics. I think that back and
forth, back and forth, 89 zillion times drove them to it.

SteveB

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On 3/2/2011 6:30 PM, SteveB wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Feb 28, 10:51 pm, wrote:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...10-home-improv...

Painting is on the list? Painting?! Sheesh.

R

Well, for craps sake. The key to the entire article is the second
paragraph:

"We checked in with contracting experts nationwide to find the home
improvement or renovation projects you should not attempt without the
help of an experienced contractor."

Do you expect contractors to say they are a bunch of unskilled idiots
who don't need the money? Granted many folks should compare the job
with their skill set and weigh in the possible risks. But painting?
Tile? Cleaning your gutters?

We are becoming a society of helpless doofus's anyway. We don't need
help like this.

reply:

Well, you must admit, a contractor is a licensed person, having worker's
compensation, training, testing, and experience. So what if they pick up
their workers daily from the local flop house or in front of Home depot. At
least one of them is licensed. And usually he can be found at the local bar
until fifteen minutes before quittin time when he comes back to pick up the
"crew".
Then the "crew" comes back some night when you're out for a pizza and cleans
you out.

Sheesh. Most painters I ever knew were alcoholics. I think that back and
forth, back and forth, 89 zillion times drove them to it.


I never noticed anything weird about most of the painters, but I learned
at an early age to give the the tile setters a wide berth. This was just
after the mud-bed era, before backer board came into common use. We
still had faith in green drywall at that point, and acres of tile went
up with mastic. No OSHA then, so no masks or added ventilation. Usually
several work lights keeping things nice and warm. Walk in there, and the
smell would knock you over. And there was the tile man, happily tiling
away, usually smoking a cigarette to boot, with a crazed expression and
babbling something incomprehensible.

--
aem sends...

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:51:05 -0800 (PST), RicodJour
wrote:

http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...-projects-diy/

Painting is on the list? Painting?! Sheesh.

Hanging there with no electrical tape? No thanks, I'll do it my self if this
guy thinks electrical tape would have fixed things.

I've done all that stuff. Cleaning gutters, indeed!