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Fox article on projects a DIYer should never attempt
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Fox article on projects a DIYer should never attempt
On 02/28/2011 11:51 PM, RicodJour wrote:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...-projects-diy/ Painting is on the list? Painting?! Sheesh. R hah. I've already done half the stuff on that list at least. And IMHO correctly, too. nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
Fox article on projects a DIYer should never attempt
FROM THAT ARTICLE!
Wiring is a whole other ballgame,” says Frank Rudy, owner of Rightway Home Improvements in Babylon, New York. “We have opened up walls where there is wiring just hanging there with no electrical tape, and they are live. With older houses, these things happen.” Wiring can pose a great risk to homeowners; although most appliances in the home are only around 110 volts and won’t kill you, items like a stove will have more power, gas lines can also be a big concern, warns Rudy. No electric tape should be used in home wiring, and 120 volts can kill. Lets say your well grounded:( 110 volts hasnt been the norm for 40 years. people who write articles should at least get a knowledgable person to proofread for content accuracy...... |
Fox article on projects a DIYer should never attempt
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:51:05 -0800 (PST), RicodJour
wrote: http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...-projects-diy/ Painting is on the list? Painting?! Sheesh. I think that might be good advice for folks who are reading the foxbusiness pages. Time spent painting is better spent researching investments.g Jim |
Fox article on projects a DIYer should never attempt
On 2/28/2011 10:51 PM, RicodJour wrote:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...-projects-diy/ Painting is on the list? Painting?! Sheesh. R quote: "Ceiling fans get heavier when they are running as the downward pressure of air adds more weight when the fan spins." Amazing, when the fan is blowing air down it causes the fan to try to move in the same direction as the air. Here I thought that Newton told us the reaction is in the opposite direction. We may need to completely revise all of our physics texts. Bill |
Fox article on projects a DIYer should never attempt
On 2/28/2011 11:51 PM, RicodJour wrote:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...-projects-diy/ Painting is on the list? Painting?! Sheesh. R I think they should add hanging a picture. The homeowner might hit his thumb while attempting to put a nail in the wall. |
Fox article on projects a DIYer should never attempt
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"dadiOH" wrote: them. People get hurt when they fall. When people get hurt - or even KILLED - they need medical attention (well, not if they were killed) They would, most often require medical attention to make sure they are dead. Ambulance at a minimum and usually transport to the ER unless the head it 6-8 feet away from the body. -- "Even I realized that money was to politicians what the ecalyptus tree is to koala bears: food, water, shelter and something to crap on." ---PJ O'Rourke |
Fox article on projects a DIYer should never attempt
On Mar 1, 5:49*am, Nate Nagel wrote:
On 02/28/2011 11:51 PM, RicodJour wrote: http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...10-home-improv... Painting is on the list? *Painting?! *Sheesh. R hah. *I've already done half the stuff on that list at least. *And IMHO correctly, too. We've done everything on the list except tiling (don't like tile) and roofing (don't have the knees for it). We've done small roofing projects, including a penetration for a kitchen vent. We've done a ton of stuff that isn't on the list (spray foam insulation, heating and air, concrete, et flaming cetera). I'll hold up our siding against any 10 crews. We weren't getting paid to rush, so we took our time and did it right. Pish tosh on foxbusiness. Cindy Hamilton |
Fox article on projects a DIYer should never attempt
RicodJour wrote in
: http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...-home-improvem ent-projects-diy/ Painting is on the list? Painting?! Sheesh. R And she left out raking leaves. You can get the rake caught in your sneaker laces, trip and fall. You'll lay there in the elements, starving and possibly die like poor old Mrs. Fletcher. http://oi53.tinypic.com/2j1og21.jpg |
Fox article on projects a DIYer should never attempt
RicodJour wrote:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...-projects-diy/ Painting is on the list? Painting?! Sheesh. That's Fox. Ask the people who most stand to profit what should be done. |
Fox article on projects a DIYer should never attempt
On 2/28/2011 11:51 PM, RicodJour wrote:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...-projects-diy/ Painting is on the list? Painting?! Sheesh. R What do you expect from a website that promotes BUSINESS? DIYers, be afraid, be VERY afraid. Call the "experts". It's good for the business world. I may not do my own roofing or tile work, but why should I pay a plumber $100+ to come out to my house to replace the gasket, or even the entire cartridge in my sink's washerless faucet? The article makes it sound as though I'm foolhardy if I don't call an electrician every time I need to change a light bulb. If these rabidly pro-business policies impoverish potential customers, those customers won't have the $$ to purchase the goods and services the businesses are selling. Henry Ford was a highly bigoted jerk as a human being, but he got at least 1 thing right - he paid his workers well above the prevalent factory wages because he wanted them to afford to buy his cars. |
Fox article on projects a DIYer should never attempt
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wrote: Henry Ford was a highly bigoted jerk as a human being, but he got at least 1 thing right - he paid his workers well above the prevalent factory wages because he wanted them to afford to buy his cars. Yes, and to settle the crowd down, his henchmen only had to kill 3 of those who came to apply for his outrageous $5/day jobs. The rest he killed not with guns, but tortured them to death more slowly just by cranking up the speed of the line. |
Fox article on projects a DIYer should never attempt
On Mar 1, 9:12*am, Bill Gill wrote:
quote: "Ceiling fans get heavier when they are running as the downward pressure of air adds more weight when the fan spins." Most ceiling fans are reversible (for circulating air in winter without creating a draft). When running "backwards", the statement above is true. Possibly a case of a clueless editor removing the useful context. |
Fox article on projects a DIYer should never attempt
On Mar 1, 2:22*pm, Larry Fishel wrote:
On Mar 1, 9:12*am, Bill Gill wrote: quote: "Ceiling fans get heavier when they are running as the downward pressure of air adds more weight when the fan spins." Most ceiling fans are reversible (for circulating air in winter without creating a draft). When running "backwards", the statement above is true. Possibly a case of a clueless editor removing the useful context. When taken in context there is no useful context in that article. R |
Fox article on projects a DIYer should never attempt
"RicodJour" wrote in message ... http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...-projects-diy/ Painting is on the list? Painting?! Sheesh. How bizarre! I'm sure no expert, but I've painted and put on siding and done a few roofs with friends and so on and so far none of those houses has fallen down. So when doing plumbing we need to look out for slight leaks when we're finished--well thanks, who would ever have thought of that? Unintentional comedy is something Fox is good at. |
Fox article on projects a DIYer should never attempt
On 3/1/2011 7:17 PM, Frank wrote:
On 3/1/2011 9:15 AM, dadiOH wrote: RicodJour wrote: http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...-projects-diy/ Painting is on the list? Painting?! Sheesh. But of course, silly! It's there for the same reason as cleaning gutters...LADDERS. As you no doubt know, ladders are the devil's own device. People fall off them. People get hurt when they fall. When people get hurt - or even KILLED - they need medical attention (well, not if they were killed) and medical attention costs money and that raises the premiums for all of us innocents who wouldn't touch a ladder with a ten foot pole. About the only people who like ladders are slip-and-fall lawyers 'cause they get to sue. I hope all of you reading this will heed my advice: as you travel through life and encounter someone on a ladder, insist that they desist. Unless it is a laywer; in that case, just kick it out from under him or her. In the case of a her, it is permissable to glance - glance, NOT stare - up her skirt briefly before kicking. My poor neighbor that died a few weeks ago was lacking a few teeth when my wife saw him several months ago and his wife said he had fallen off the roof. Probably not a good idea for an 84 year old to climb on his roof. A few years ago, we had a 75 year old neighbor die when cutting a partially downed tree had it fall on him. Getting older myself, I'm starting to leave more for the pro's to do. Marvelous quote I stole from AHR a few months back- 'because I don't bounce worth a damn anymore'. I, too, have cut way back on the high work I'll do. And what little I do, I do it a whole lot more carefully now. My inner ears (or some other part of my body) started talking to me a few years ago, when I got close to any dropoffs. Even standing at the balcony rail 20 feet over the main lobby at work makes me a little woozy now. I carry the extension ladder around the house and set it up on the deck, now, rather than pull it out to 20 feet and have that long bouncy climb up from the driveway right by the garage door. Going up wasn't too bad, but that first step back onto the ladder was getting to be Not Fun. I'm sure I've previously mentioned the 2 guys near my age at work, who will never walk quite right again, after their ladder accidents. And just recently we had one guy only a few years older, who ended up in a box, after his fall. As a kid, I used to free-climb the rock faces and stacks at the local swimming quarry, and work on barely-tied-off 6 unit high scaffolds. Those days are long gone.... :^( -- aem sends... |
Fox article on projects a DIYer should never attempt
On 3/2/2011 6:05 AM, dadiOH wrote:
aemeijers wrote: As a kid, I used to free-climb the rock faces and stacks at the local swimming quarry, and work on barely-tied-off 6 unit high scaffolds. Those days are long gone.... :^( And I used to jump off the garage roof for fun. If I tried that now both knees would wind up somewhere near my chin. In fragments. Old age sucks! Would you consider hopping on a 4 cylinder motorcycle and zipping down a deserted stretch of highway at 150mph like I would have 35 years ago when I suffered from sophomoric dementia? How in the heck am I still here? :-) TDD |
Fox article on projects a DIYer should never attempt
On 3/1/2011 2:22 PM, Larry Fishel wrote:
On Mar 1, 9:12 am, Bill wrote: quote: "Ceiling fans get heavier when they are running as the downward pressure of air adds more weight when the fan spins." Most ceiling fans are reversible (for circulating air in winter without creating a draft). When running "backwards", the statement above is true. Possibly a case of a clueless editor removing the useful context. I saw that, it depends on how you decipher it. Either way the difference in the load from the air pressure is minuscule compared to the weight of the fan. |
Fox article on projects a DIYer should never attempt
It used to be that DIY types would ask on the internet and also read
books / instructions on how to do things right - learn about what they are doing before they do it... No problem! The work will be done just as good as a pro's or even better. But these days I see lazy impatient people wanting someone else to tell them step by step what to do or say an electrical problem, they want someone to tell them what is wrong and step by step how to fix it. They don't want to take the time to learn about things. - Sheep syndrome. Can't learn/think on their own, need someone else to tell them each and every step... In that case they should call a pro. |
Fox article on projects a DIYer should never attempt
On Feb 28, 10:51*pm, RicodJour wrote:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...10-home-improv... Painting is on the list? *Painting?! *Sheesh. R Well, for craps sake. The key to the entire article is the second paragraph: "We checked in with contracting experts nationwide to find the home improvement or renovation projects you should not attempt without the help of an experienced contractor." Do you expect contractors to say they are a bunch of unskilled idiots who don't need the money? Granted many folks should compare the job with their skill set and weigh in the possible risks. But painting? Tile? Cleaning your gutters? We are becoming a society of helpless doofus's anyway. We don't need help like this. |
Fox article on projects a DIYer should never attempt
"RonB" wrote in message ... On Feb 28, 10:51 pm, RicodJour wrote: http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...10-home-improv... Painting is on the list? Painting?! Sheesh. R Well, for craps sake. The key to the entire article is the second paragraph: "We checked in with contracting experts nationwide to find the home improvement or renovation projects you should not attempt without the help of an experienced contractor." Do you expect contractors to say they are a bunch of unskilled idiots who don't need the money? Granted many folks should compare the job with their skill set and weigh in the possible risks. But painting? Tile? Cleaning your gutters? We are becoming a society of helpless doofus's anyway. We don't need help like this. reply: Well, you must admit, a contractor is a licensed person, having worker's compensation, training, testing, and experience. So what if they pick up their workers daily from the local flop house or in front of Home depot. At least one of them is licensed. And usually he can be found at the local bar until fifteen minutes before quittin time when he comes back to pick up the "crew". Then the "crew" comes back some night when you're out for a pizza and cleans you out. Sheesh. Most painters I ever knew were alcoholics. I think that back and forth, back and forth, 89 zillion times drove them to it. SteveB Heart surgery pending? Read up and prepare. Download the book $10 http://cabgbypasssurgery.com |
Fox article on projects a DIYer should never attempt
On 3/2/2011 6:30 PM, SteveB wrote:
wrote in message ... On Feb 28, 10:51 pm, wrote: http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...10-home-improv... Painting is on the list? Painting?! Sheesh. R Well, for craps sake. The key to the entire article is the second paragraph: "We checked in with contracting experts nationwide to find the home improvement or renovation projects you should not attempt without the help of an experienced contractor." Do you expect contractors to say they are a bunch of unskilled idiots who don't need the money? Granted many folks should compare the job with their skill set and weigh in the possible risks. But painting? Tile? Cleaning your gutters? We are becoming a society of helpless doofus's anyway. We don't need help like this. reply: Well, you must admit, a contractor is a licensed person, having worker's compensation, training, testing, and experience. So what if they pick up their workers daily from the local flop house or in front of Home depot. At least one of them is licensed. And usually he can be found at the local bar until fifteen minutes before quittin time when he comes back to pick up the "crew". Then the "crew" comes back some night when you're out for a pizza and cleans you out. Sheesh. Most painters I ever knew were alcoholics. I think that back and forth, back and forth, 89 zillion times drove them to it. I never noticed anything weird about most of the painters, but I learned at an early age to give the the tile setters a wide berth. This was just after the mud-bed era, before backer board came into common use. We still had faith in green drywall at that point, and acres of tile went up with mastic. No OSHA then, so no masks or added ventilation. Usually several work lights keeping things nice and warm. Walk in there, and the smell would knock you over. And there was the tile man, happily tiling away, usually smoking a cigarette to boot, with a crazed expression and babbling something incomprehensible. -- aem sends... |
Fox article on projects a DIYer should never attempt
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:51:05 -0800 (PST), RicodJour
wrote: http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-...-projects-diy/ Painting is on the list? Painting?! Sheesh. Hanging there with no electrical tape? No thanks, I'll do it my self if this guy thinks electrical tape would have fixed things. I've done all that stuff. Cleaning gutters, indeed! |
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