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What removes furniture wax...
.... from a surface in anticipation of re-varnishing?
I've tried: Sanding, Lacquer thinner, Mineral spirits, and Alcohol with little or no success. Thanks. |
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What removes furniture wax...
On Feb 23, 1:53*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
... from a surface in anticipation of re-varnishing? I've tried: Sanding, Lacquer thinner, Mineral spirits, and Alcohol with little or no success. Thanks. Lundmark Wax Remover ive used on floors many times with a buffer, but its water base so if this is furniture you have to be carefull and test an area. Paint remover should work great and be safe, are you sure its just wax and not a bunch of modern polymer chemicals added to the wax. Why do you think its still in the wood,, is it sticky? Mineral spirits and laquer thinner are strong enough, and a good Methelene Chloride paint remover should be even better. |
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What removes furniture wax...
ransley wrote:
On Feb 23, 1:53 pm, "HeyBub" wrote: ... from a surface in anticipation of re-varnishing? I've tried: Sanding, Lacquer thinner, Mineral spirits, and Alcohol with little or no success. Thanks. Lundmark Wax Remover ive used on floors many times with a buffer, but its water base so if this is furniture you have to be carefull and test an area. Paint remover should work great and be safe, are you sure its just wax and not a bunch of modern polymer chemicals added to the wax. Why do you think its still in the wood,, is it sticky? Mineral spirits and laquer thinner are strong enough, and a good Methelene Chloride paint remover should be even better. Well, yeah, it's sticky. I only THINK it's wax inasmuch as lacquer thinner removed SOME of it. I'd rather not use paint remover 'cause that would attack the underlying stain. I was hoping to get the finish (wax?) off so I could re-varnish the table, but if I have to go down to the bare wood, well, so be it. I've already spent the better parts of three weeks on HALF the goddamn table top. What's another lifetime? |
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What removes furniture wax...
On 2/23/2011 4:57 PM, HeyBub wrote:
ransley wrote: On Feb 23, 1:53 pm, wrote: ... from a surface in anticipation of re-varnishing? I've tried: Sanding, Lacquer thinner, Mineral spirits, and Alcohol with little or no success. Thanks. Lundmark Wax Remover ive used on floors many times with a buffer, but its water base so if this is furniture you have to be carefull and test an area. Paint remover should work great and be safe, are you sure its just wax and not a bunch of modern polymer chemicals added to the wax. Why do you think its still in the wood,, is it sticky? Mineral spirits and laquer thinner are strong enough, and a good Methelene Chloride paint remover should be even better. Well, yeah, it's sticky. I only THINK it's wax inasmuch as lacquer thinner removed SOME of it. I'd rather not use paint remover 'cause that would attack the underlying stain. I was hoping to get the finish (wax?) off so I could re-varnish the table, but if I have to go down to the bare wood, well, so be it. I've already spent the better parts of three weeks on HALF the goddamn table top. What's another lifetime? Three weeks on a table top? Must have been in a long poker game ) If fine steel wool and mineral spirits don't take off the "wax", then it ain't wax. Try wiping with Dawn dish detergent/water, wipe off right away...if it is silicone, that might take it off. If that doesn't do it, a quick wipe with denatured alcohol....it isn't Formica, is it?? |
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What removes furniture wax...
On 2/23/2011 2:53 PM, HeyBub wrote:
... from a surface in anticipation of re-varnishing? I've tried: Sanding, Lacquer thinner, Mineral spirits, and Alcohol with little or no success. Thanks. If it's really wax, ammonia is the old standard for removing built up wax on floors. Not sure what process you should use, I did a quick google to double check on ammonia and there are lots of tips on how to use it to remove wax. |
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What removes furniture wax...
On Feb 24, 9:36*am, Tony Miklos wrote:
On 2/23/2011 2:53 PM, HeyBub wrote: ... from a surface in anticipation of re-varnishing? I've tried: Sanding, Lacquer thinner, Mineral spirits, and Alcohol with little or no success. Thanks. If it's really wax, ammonia is the old standard for removing built up wax on floors. Not sure what process you should use, I did a quick google to double check on ammonia and there are lots of tips on how to use it to remove wax. |
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What removes furniture wax...
jamesgangnc wrote:
On Feb 24, 9:36 am, Tony Miklos wrote: On 2/23/2011 2:53 PM, HeyBub wrote: ... from a surface in anticipation of re-varnishing? I've tried: Sanding, Lacquer thinner, Mineral spirits, and Alcohol with little or no success. Thanks. If it's really wax, ammonia is the old standard for removing built up wax on floors. Not sure what process you should use, I did a quick google to double check on ammonia and there are lots of tips on how to use it to remove wax. Sometimes polymer varnishes will turn into a gummy residue. Could be! I'm on my third application of MEK and the table is resisting, though not completely, my insistence that it yield to my ministrations. Propane torch is next on my list. |
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What removes furniture wax...
On Feb 24, 11:12*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
jamesgangnc wrote: On Feb 24, 9:36 am, Tony Miklos wrote: On 2/23/2011 2:53 PM, HeyBub wrote: ... from a surface in anticipation of re-varnishing? I've tried: Sanding, Lacquer thinner, Mineral spirits, and Alcohol with little or no success. Thanks. If it's really wax, ammonia is the old standard for removing built up wax on floors. Not sure what process you should use, I did a quick google to double check on ammonia and there are lots of tips on how to use it to remove wax. Sometimes polymer varnishes will turn into a gummy residue. Could be! I'm on my third application of MEK and the table is resisting, though not completely, my insistence that it yield to my ministrations. Propane torch is next on my list. Xylene is the common solvent for carnauba wax and similar. Used make Simonize smell funny in the old days before California found out it causes acne. If nothing else works and you need to get to bare wood use any bodied methylene chloride paint remover. Still the best. joe |
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What removes furniture wax...
On 2/23/2011 2:53 PM, HeyBub wrote:
... from a surface in anticipation of re-varnishing? I've tried: Sanding, Lacquer thinner, Mineral spirits, and Alcohol with little or no success. Thanks. A few thoughts and questions: 1) You stared that the finish / topcoat was sticky. This may be due to more than just wax. It could be from the oil in hands slowly deteriorating the finish. Wax removers alone will not get all of this but a good cleaning with both water and solvent based cleaners should. 2) Are you using lots of cleaning cloths or paper towels when you wipe away the wax? You do not want to spread the wax / silicone around. Keep using a new face of the cleaning cloth / paper towel each time you make a swipe. 3) You stated that you are getting bubbles when you lay down the finish. Typically, residual wax / silicone creates fish eyes / craters. If you really are getting bubbles, it suggests that either the technique you are using to lay down the finish is not sufficient (unlikely given what you say you have tried) or the temperature of your shop is such that it is warming as you go making any trapped air come to the surface. It could also be due to a naturally oily wood as someone else suggested. Good Luck. |
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What removes furniture wax...
Joe wrote:
Xylene is the common solvent for carnauba wax and similar. Used make Simonize smell funny in the old days before California found out it causes acne. If nothing else works and you need to get to bare wood use any bodied methylene chloride paint remover. Still the best. BINGO! Xylene did, in fact, dissolve the, er, whatever it was. Upon closer inspection, the table top suffered (very) minor dings of less than a millimeter over the course of its life. These filled with something (wax?) which lay in wait for whatever tried to invade their neighborhood, like varnish. These (wax?) molecules would rush out from hiding and ambush the vulnerable (wet) varnish and cause carbuncles. You suggestion of Xylene worked like a flame-thrower on Japanese hidey-holes. Killed them ****ers dead! The table is on its way to joining the club of respectable furniture. Thanks again for the suggestion. |
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What removes furniture wax...
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"HeyBub" wrote: jamesgangnc wrote: On Feb 24, 9:36 am, Tony Miklos wrote: On 2/23/2011 2:53 PM, HeyBub wrote: ... from a surface in anticipation of re-varnishing? I've tried: Sanding, Lacquer thinner, Mineral spirits, and Alcohol with little or no success. Thanks. If it's really wax, ammonia is the old standard for removing built up wax on floors. Not sure what process you should use, I did a quick google to double check on ammonia and there are lots of tips on how to use it to remove wax. Sometimes polymer varnishes will turn into a gummy residue. Could be! I'm on my third application of MEK and the table is resisting, though not completely, my insistence that it yield to my ministrations. Propane torch is next on my list. Pondering from the sidelines on this thread, I can't quite figure out why you haven't tried small arms fire. |
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