Downstairs toilet got plugged - took the plunger to it a few times,
let it sit overnight, then tried it again, and now it is clear. When
I was plunging I noticed some water leaking out from underneath the
base. Now that it is clear it seems to flush fine with no visible
leaking. My lazy side says, it doesn't leak now so why mess it with
it. My anal side says since it leaked, that means water found (or
made) a path through the wax seal and I should take the toilet up and
reset it. Does the leakage mean there is something wrong that needs
to be fixed? This is on a concrete and tile floor so there is no
worry about rotting the floorboards. --H

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"Heathcliff" wrote in message
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Downstairs toilet got plugged - took the plunger to it a few times,
let it sit overnight, then tried it again, and now it is clear. When
I was plunging I noticed some water leaking out from underneath the
base. Now that it is clear it seems to flush fine with no visible
leaking. My lazy side says, it doesn't leak now so why mess it with
it. My anal side says since it leaked, that means water found (or
made) a path through the wax seal and I should take the toilet up and
reset it. Does the leakage mean there is something wrong that needs
to be fixed? This is on a concrete and tile floor so there is no
worry about rotting the floorboards. --H

When plunging, you built up a little pressure around the seal and forced the
water out. Under normal circumstances, it may go for many years and you
never see a leak because there is no pressure and a clear flow of the water.

I'd be kind of on the lazy side about it. If leakage occurs during normal
use, yes, fix it. Oh, the water in the bowl acts as a trap for sewer
gasses too, but it that had not been a problem, let the laziness begin.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in
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"Heathcliff" wrote in message
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Downstairs toilet got plugged - took the plunger to it a few times,
let it sit overnight, then tried it again, and now it is clear. When
I was plunging I noticed some water leaking out from underneath the
base. Now that it is clear it seems to flush fine with no visible
leaking. My lazy side says, it doesn't leak now so why mess it with
it. My anal side says since it leaked, that means water found (or
made) a path through the wax seal and I should take the toilet up and
reset it. Does the leakage mean there is something wrong that needs
to be fixed? This is on a concrete and tile floor so there is no
worry about rotting the floorboards. --H

When plunging, you built up a little pressure around the seal and
forced the water out. Under normal circumstances, it may go for many
years and you never see a leak because there is no pressure and a
clear flow of the water.

I'd be kind of on the lazy side about it. If leakage occurs during
normal use, yes, fix it. Oh, the water in the bowl acts as a trap
for sewer gasses too, but it that had not been a problem, let the
laziness begin.


Guess I would add, sit on it. Check nuts to make sure they are nice and
snug, NOT TORQUED TO DEATH.

p.s. I don't mean to check nuts while sitting on it...

Heathcliff wrote:
Downstairs toilet got plugged - took the plunger to it a few times,
let it sit overnight, then tried it again, and now it is clear. When
I was plunging I noticed some water leaking out from underneath the
base. Now that it is clear it seems to flush fine with no visible
leaking. My lazy side says, it doesn't leak now so why mess it with
it. My anal side says since it leaked, that means water found (or
made) a path through the wax seal and I should take the toilet up and
reset it. Does the leakage mean there is something wrong that needs
to be fixed? This is on a concrete and tile floor so there is no
worry about rotting the floorboards. --H

Only if your nose is up to it.
Smelly fumes will leak out along the same path as the water did.

On Jan 29, 11:58*am, wrote:


The fix is pretty easy. There is a wax ring under the toilet, you
just, turn off the water, flush, disconnect the water line, remove the
2 nuts, and lift it out. Scrape out all the old wax, drop in a new wax
ring and reassemble.
They usually fail because the toilet is rocking. Shim it up so it sits
level and tighten up the nuts.

It isn't terribly difficult, but it isn't all that easy either.

First, a wax ring is only about $3, so buy two. Your first time,
sometimes you break it. Also, they're really really sticky.

But that isn't what is hard. What's hard is you have to lift the
toilet up and work underneath it. That means you have to shut off the
water (hope your angle stop works. Mine do on all the toilets but
some of the sinks don't shut off fully.)

Then you either unbolt the toilet from the floor and lift the whole
thing (heavy, awkward, hard to grab, and nowhere to set it), or you
have to take off the tank first (that's what I do usually) and those
nuts are probably rusted on, given the wet conditions in a bathroom.
There's a rubber gasket between the tank and the bowl and I replace
that at the same time just to save another potential disassembly.

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"Red Green" wrote
Guess I would add, sit on it. Check nuts to make sure they are nice


I checked my nuts while sitting on it. Yes, they are nice. Just to be sure,
I had my wife check them too. She said they were nice.

On 1/29/2011 1:52 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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"Red Green" wrote
Guess I would add, sit on it. Check nuts to make sure they are nice


I checked my nuts while sitting on it. Yes, they are nice. Just to be
sure, I had my wife check them too. She said they were nice.

Perhaps this new product would help you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zdDfQrPi5Q

TDD

On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 15:03:38 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 1/29/2011 1:52 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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"Red Green" wrote
Guess I would add, sit on it. Check nuts to make sure they are nice


I checked my nuts while sitting on it. Yes, they are nice. Just to be
sure, I had my wife check them too. She said they were nice.

Perhaps this new product would help you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zdDfQrPi5Q

TDD

oh bull**** -- I use a wheelbarrow for my hauling

What should I do if my nuts are too tight?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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"Red Green" wrote in message
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I'd be kind of on the lazy side about it. If leakage
occurs during
normal use, yes, fix it. Oh, the water in the bowl acts
as a trap
for sewer gasses too, but it that had not been a problem,
let the
laziness begin.


Guess I would add, sit on it. Check nuts to make sure they
are nice and
snug, NOT TORQUED TO DEATH.

p.s. I don't mean to check nuts while sitting on it...

You're really on the ball tonight, Ed. Nuts to you!

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
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"Red Green" wrote
Guess I would add, sit on it. Check nuts to make sure they
are nice


I checked my nuts while sitting on it. Yes, they are nice.
Just to be sure,
I had my wife check them too. She said they were nice.

On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 21:58:45 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

What should I do if my nuts are too tight?

Let Ed take care of them. He seems to do a good job.

On Jan 29, 8:50*am, Heathcliff wrote:
Downstairs toilet got plugged - took the plunger to it a few times,
let it sit overnight, then tried it again, and now it is clear. *When
I was plunging I noticed some water leaking out from underneath the
base. *Now that it is clear it seems to flush fine with no visible
leaking. *My lazy side says, it doesn't leak now so why mess it with
it. *My anal side says since it leaked, that means water found (or
made) a path through the wax seal and I should take the toilet up and
reset it. *Does the leakage mean there is something wrong that needs
to be fixed? *This is on a concrete and tile floor so there is no
worry about rotting the floorboards. *--H

I would, most likely, leave it. If you need to fix it use one of
these: http://www.fernco.com/files/installa...al_install.jpg

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in
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"Red Green" wrote
Guess I would add, sit on it. Check nuts to make sure they are nice


I checked my nuts while sitting on it. Yes, they are nice. Just to be
sure, I had my wife check them too. She said they were nice.


You're just plain lucky Ed.

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in news:ii2k8r
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What should I do if my nuts are too tight?


You need to relieve the strain. Finger tight only so as to not damage
anything.

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in news:ii2k8r
:

What should I do if my nuts are too tight?


Another option is to use the Shake Weight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYmnP7VOyo4

On Jan 29, 8:50*am, Heathcliff wrote:
Downstairs toilet got plugged - took the plunger to it a few times,
let it sit overnight, then tried it again, and now it is clear. *When
I was plunging I noticed some water leaking out from underneath the
base. *Now that it is clear it seems to flush fine with no visible
leaking. *My lazy side says, it doesn't leak now so why mess it with
it. *My anal side says since it leaked, that means water found (or
made) a path through the wax seal and I should take the toilet up and
reset it. *Does the leakage mean there is something wrong that needs
to be fixed? *This is on a concrete and tile floor so there is no
worry about rotting the floorboards. *--H

Follow-up: It leaked again. The pattern seemed to be that it would
flush once or twice fine, but then the third time it would back up,
indicating a downstream clog. So I took it up and used my cheapo home
snake on the drain. Then the laundry sink was having drain problems
too - indicating the clog was beyond the junction of those drain
lines, i.e. the main line to the street. Time to call the plumbers.
They snaked it out, took out some roots, and the problem is solved. I
reset the toilet no problem - have done that a few times before.
Thanks for all the tips -- H

On Feb 2, 9:29*pm, Heathcliff wrote:
On Jan 29, 8:50*am, Heathcliff wrote:

Downstairs toilet got plugged - took the plunger to it a few times,
let it sit overnight, then tried it again, and now it is clear. *When
I was plunging I noticed some water leaking out from underneath the
base. *Now that it is clear it seems to flush fine with no visible
leaking. *My lazy side says, it doesn't leak now so why mess it with
it. *My anal side says since it leaked, that means water found (or
made) a path through the wax seal and I should take the toilet up and
reset it. *Does the leakage mean there is something wrong that needs
to be fixed? *This is on a concrete and tile floor so there is no
worry about rotting the floorboards. *--H

Follow-up: It leaked again. *The pattern seemed to be that it would
flush once or twice fine, but then the third time it would back up,
indicating a downstream clog. So I took it up and used my cheapo home
snake on the drain. *Then the laundry sink was having drain problems
too - indicating the clog was beyond the junction of those drain
lines, i.e. the main line to the street. *Time to call the plumbers.
They snaked it out, took out some roots, and the problem is solved. *I
reset the toilet no problem - have done that a few times before.
Thanks for all the tips -- H

Roots?
Time to find out about COPPER SULFATE.

They snaked it out, took out some roots, and the problem is solved. *I
reset the toilet no problem - have done that a few times before.
Thanks for all the tips -- H

Roots?
Time to find out about COPPER SULFATE.-

Nope go get some rock salt, it will kill the roots while leaving the
tree unharmed.

Plus its CHEAP

just do it a few times a year

dissolve rock salt or softener salt in hot water, put down drain and
leave for day. so the roots get more salt exposure time