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Tub overflow problem
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Our tub leaks into the basement when filled to the overflow which always seems to end up happening when anyone takes a bath. Kids tend to move around a lot so even if it is not filled up to the overflow it ends up being pushed in anyway. Is this something a plumber can fix? We don't have easy access behind the tub. Our kitchen cabinets are on the other side. I found one website that said that most bathtub overflows leak especially after several years from settling and the gaskets drying out. They recommended not filling the tub to the overflow which I keep telling people not to do yet it keeps happening. I would appeciate any advice on this problem. Thanks in advance, Steve |
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On Jan 17, 8:41*pm, Tony Hwang wrote:
H wrote: Hi, Our tub leaks into the basement when filled to the overflow which always seems to end up happening when anyone takes a bath. *Kids tend to move around a lot so even if it is not filled up to the overflow it ends up being pushed in anyway. Is this something a plumber can fix? *We don't have easy access behind the tub. *Our kitchen cabinets are on the other side. *I found one website that said that most bathtub overflows leak especially after several years from settling and the gaskets drying out. *They recommended not filling the tub to the overflow which I keep telling people not to do yet it keeps happening. I would appeciate any advice on this problem. Thanks in advance, Steve Hi, Remove the cover and look over flow drain pipe is slipped or you add rubber gasket. Once you remove the cover things will become obvious.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - He probably does not have a front cover to remove unless it is a jacuzzi style bathub. To OP, can you access the tub drain/overflow area from underneath? |
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On Jan 17, 5:53*pm, " wrote:
Hi, Our tub leaks into the basement when filled to the overflow which always seems to end up happening when anyone takes a bath. *Kids tend to move around a lot so even if it is not filled up to the overflow it ends up being pushed in anyway. Is this something a plumber can fix? *We don't have easy access behind the tub. *Our kitchen cabinets are on the other side. *I found one website that said that most bathtub overflows leak especially after several years from settling and the gaskets drying out. *They recommended not filling the tub to the overflow which I keep telling people not to do yet it keeps happening. I would appeciate any advice on this problem. Thanks in advance, Steve You tub drain was clogged so you called someone to snake it out for you. The person who did the work removed the overflow plate and pushed the snake in from there. In doing so he moved the tube and overflow gasket or maybe even caused the gasket to fall off altogether. You need to open the plumbing access panel behind the tub and confirm that this is what really happened and if so call that guy who unclogged your tub drain and have him fix it for free. |
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On Jan 17, 5:53*pm, " wrote:
Hi, Our tub leaks into the basement when filled to the overflow which always seems to end up happening when anyone takes a bath. *Kids tend to move around a lot so even if it is not filled up to the overflow it ends up being pushed in anyway. Is this something a plumber can fix? *We don't have easy access behind the tub. *Our kitchen cabinets are on the other side. *I found one website that said that most bathtub overflows leak especially after several years from settling and the gaskets drying out. *They recommended not filling the tub to the overflow which I keep telling people not to do yet it keeps happening. I would appeciate any advice on this problem. Thanks in advance, Steve You tub drain was clogged so you called someone to snake it out for you. The person who did the work removed the overflow plate and pushed the snake in from there. In doing so he moved the tube and overflow gasket or maybe even caused the gasket to fall off altogether. You need to open the plumbing access panel behind the tub and confirm that this is what really happened and if so call that guy who unclogged your tub drain and have him fix it for free. |
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On 1/17/2011 11:55 PM, Molly Brown wrote:
On Jan 17, 5:53 pm, wrote: Hi, Our tub leaks into the basement when filled to the overflow which always seems to end up happening when anyone takes a bath. Kids tend to move around a lot so even if it is not filled up to the overflow it ends up being pushed in anyway. Is this something a plumber can fix? We don't have easy access behind the tub. Our kitchen cabinets are on the other side. I found one website that said that most bathtub overflows leak especially after several years from settling and the gaskets drying out. They recommended not filling the tub to the overflow which I keep telling people not to do yet it keeps happening. I would appeciate any advice on this problem. Thanks in advance, Steve You tub drain was clogged so you called someone to snake it out for you. The person who did the work removed the overflow plate and pushed the snake in from there. In doing so he moved the tube and overflow gasket or maybe even caused the gasket to fall off altogether. You need to open the plumbing access panel behind the tub and confirm that this is what really happened and if so call that guy who unclogged your tub drain and have him fix it for free. OP has already stated he has no access panel (few builders bother to put those in), and no place to put one, since tub wet wall backs up against the kitchen cabinet wall. If he can't solve problem through overflow front trim plate, he's SOL. Fix will be expensive. -- aem sends... |
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On Jan 18, 1:53*am, " wrote:
Hi, Our tub leaks into the basement when filled to the overflow which always seems to end up happening when anyone takes a bath. *Kids tend to move around a lot so even if it is not filled up to the overflow it ends up being pushed in anyway. Is this something a plumber can fix? *We don't have easy access behind the tub. *Our kitchen cabinets are on the other side. *I found one website that said that most bathtub overflows leak especially after several years from settling and the gaskets drying out. *They recommended not filling the tub to the overflow which I keep telling people not to do yet it keeps happening. I would appeciate any advice on this problem. Thanks in advance, Steve The overflow is normally connected to the waste pipe right under the bath. You need to take the front panel off the bath and have a look at what's going on, it sounds like it's come adrift somehow. |
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On Jan 17, 11:53*pm, Molly Brown wrote:
On Jan 17, 5:53*pm, " wrote: Hi, Our tub leaks into the basement when filled to the overflow which always seems to end up happening when anyone takes a bath. *Kids tend to move around a lot so even if it is not filled up to the overflow it ends up being pushed in anyway. Is this something a plumber can fix? *We don't have easy access behind the tub. *Our kitchen cabinets are on the other side. *I found one website that said that most bathtub overflows leak especially after several years from settling and the gaskets drying out. *They recommended not filling the tub to the overflow which I keep telling people not to do yet it keeps happening. I would appeciate any advice on this problem. Thanks in advance, Steve You tub drain was clogged so you called someone to snake it out for you. The person who did the work removed the overflow plate and pushed the snake in from there. In doing so he moved the tube and overflow gasket or maybe even caused the gasket to fall off altogether. You need to open the plumbing access panel behind the tub and confirm that this is what really happened and if so call that guy who unclogged your tub drain and have him fix it for free.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yep. I have snaked it out this way myself after I watched a plumber do it once. Our tub connects to the kitchen sink further on down the line and I get these weird backups where water starts backing up into the tub and it smells bad and the only way to snake it out is from the tub overflow. I do have access from underneath. The basement is not finished. But there is not a lot of room to get up at things. Floor joists etc... I don't even remember which plumber was the first one to snake it out that way. I've used several. I've had this problem for years now and never fixed it since it only happens every now and then and it's not a ton of water. But I'm sick of it now and want to fix it. Is it a big job for a plumber? There's no access behind the tub without ripping through the cabinets and I would live with the leak before doing that. Steve |
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On Jan 18, 7:21*am, " wrote:
On Jan 17, 11:53*pm, Molly Brown wrote: On Jan 17, 5:53*pm, " wrote: Hi, Our tub leaks into the basement when filled to the overflow which always seems to end up happening when anyone takes a bath. *Kids tend to move around a lot so even if it is not filled up to the overflow it ends up being pushed in anyway. Is this something a plumber can fix? *We don't have easy access behind the tub. *Our kitchen cabinets are on the other side. *I found one website that said that most bathtub overflows leak especially after several years from settling and the gaskets drying out. *They recommended not filling the tub to the overflow which I keep telling people not to do yet it keeps happening. I would appeciate any advice on this problem. Thanks in advance, Steve You tub drain was clogged so you called someone to snake it out for you. The person who did the work removed the overflow plate and pushed the snake in from there. In doing so he moved the tube and overflow gasket or maybe even caused the gasket to fall off altogether. You need to open the plumbing access panel behind the tub and confirm that this is what really happened and if so call that guy who unclogged your tub drain and have him fix it for free.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yep. *I have snaked it out this way myself after I watched a plumber do it once. *Our tub connects to the kitchen sink further on down the line and I get these weird backups where water starts backing up into the tub and it smells bad and the only way to snake it out is from the tub overflow. I do have access from underneath. *The basement is not finished. *But there is not a lot of room to get up at things. *Floor joists etc... I don't even remember which plumber was the first one to snake it out that way. *I've used several. *I've had this problem for years now and never fixed it since it only happens every now and then and it's not a ton of water. *But I'm sick of it now and want to fix it. Is it a big job for a plumber? *There's no access behind the tub without ripping through the cabinets and I would live with the leak before doing that. Steve- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You might be surprised how easy it is to remove kitchen cabinets. Typically just some screws from inside. If you have a couner on top of it lossen the screws into it from under the adjacent cabinets and you will be able to lift the counter enough to slide the cabinet out. |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 04:21:59 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: On Jan 17, 11:53Â*pm, Molly Brown wrote: On Jan 17, 5:53Â*pm, " wrote: You tub drain was clogged so you called someone to snake it out for you. The person who did the work removed the overflow plate and pushed the snake in from there. In doing so he moved the tube and overflow gasket or maybe even caused the gasket to fall off altogether. You need to open the plumbing access panel behind the tub and confirm that this is what really happened and if so call that guy who unclogged your tub drain and have him fix it for free.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yep. I have snaked it out this way myself after I watched a plumber do it once. Our tub connects to the kitchen sink further on down the line and I get these weird backups where water starts backing up into the tub and it smells bad and the only way to snake it out is from the tub overflow. If the kitchen sink is backing up into the tub it's the sink line that needs snaking. I do have access from underneath. The basement is not finished. But there is not a lot of room to get up at things. Floor joists etc... I don't even remember which plumber was the first one to snake it out that way. I've used several. I've had this problem for years now and never fixed it since it only happens every now and then and it's not a ton of water. But I'm sick of it now and want to fix it. Is it a big job for a plumber? There's no access behind the tub without ripping through the cabinets and I would live with the leak before doing that. If you can't get in from the basement, you pull whatever cabinet is in the way. If you have to pull the sink/countertop first, you do that. It's not a big deal for the plumber if you have the cabinets cleaned out and tell him you'll take care of re-caulking or re-grouting the counter backsplash. Maybe an extra hour or two, depending if he runs into "issues." I can't take a bath in a tub that gets pipe filth in it. My tub drain slowed once to the point where getting in a full tub caused the overflow tube to fill, then sloshing water sucked back drain crap particles into the bath water. After that I cleaned the drain before it got bad. Not with a snake. --Vic |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 07:58:31 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote: wrote: On Jan 17, 11:53 pm, Molly Brown wrote: On Jan 17, 5:53 pm, " wrote: Hi, Our tub leaks into the basement when filled to the overflow which always seems to end up happening when anyone takes a bath. Kids tend to move around a lot so even if it is not filled up to the overflow it ends up being pushed in anyway. Is this something a plumber can fix? We don't have easy access behind the tub. Our kitchen cabinets are on the other side. I found one website that said that most bathtub overflows leak especially after several years from settling and the gaskets drying out. They recommended not filling the tub to the overflow which I keep telling people not to do yet it keeps happening. I would appeciate any advice on this problem. Thanks in advance, Steve You tub drain was clogged so you called someone to snake it out for you. The person who did the work removed the overflow plate and pushed the snake in from there. In doing so he moved the tube and overflow gasket or maybe even caused the gasket to fall off altogether. You need to open the plumbing access panel behind the tub and confirm that this is what really happened and if so call that guy who unclogged your tub drain and have him fix it for free.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yep. I have snaked it out this way myself after I watched a plumber do it once. Our tub connects to the kitchen sink further on down the line and I get these weird backups where water starts backing up into the tub and it smells bad and the only way to snake it out is from the tub overflow. I do have access from underneath. The basement is not finished. But there is not a lot of room to get up at things. Floor joists etc... Is there a shiny cover over the overflow drain, with a screw in the center. If that's what was removed to snake it out, you need to remove it again, and reposition or replace the gasket behind it, between the pipe going down and the tub. Snaking out that line likely moved the pipe enough that the origional gasket either shifted or fell out completely. Take off the plate, and push on the pipe with a screwdriver so you can slip in a new gasket between the pipe end and the tub. Agree. Block the tub drain or tape it so we don't drop the screw in there. (The gasket has a bevel shape..) http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/attachments/a/16082d1233279181-bathtub-leak-tub-waste-overflow.jpg?stc=1 |
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On 1/18/2011 2:55 PM, Oren wrote:
(snip) Block the tub drain or tape it so we don't drop the screw in there. Chuckle. I think most of us have done that at least once, if not with a tub drain or some other drain, in a carburetor throat or spark plug hole. Sucks when that happens, especially when you were Almost Finished. -- aem sends... |
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aemeijers wrote:
On 1/18/2011 2:55 PM, Oren wrote: (snip) Block the tub drain or tape it so we don't drop the screw in there. Chuckle. I think most of us have done that at least once, if not with a tub drain or some other drain, in a carburetor throat or spark plug hole. Sucks when that happens, especially when you were Almost Finished. I helped a neighbor fish a washer out of his carburator just yesterday. |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:50:12 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote: aemeijers wrote: On 1/18/2011 2:55 PM, Oren wrote: (snip) Block the tub drain or tape it so we don't drop the screw in there. Chuckle. I think most of us have done that at least once, if not with a tub drain or some other drain, in a carburetor throat or spark plug hole. Sucks when that happens, especially when you were Almost Finished. I helped a neighbor fish a washer out of his carburator just yesterday. Working a carburetor once, a steel ball bearing decided to jump out an travel across the floor. What a hoot finding it and still making the vehicle run. |
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