Due to circumstances, I will be homeless at sometime in the future,
and that day may not be too far away. I've been watching the homeless
people downtown. Most have an old shopping cart and cart around their
few possessions, which is normally some spare clothing, shoes, some
blankets, fork and knife, matches, metal cup, and maybe a transistor
radio. Normally they have some sort of snacks and many have liquor.

When they dont go to places like the Rescue Mission to stay, they
usually sleep under bridges, under loading docks, oir abandoned
buildings of they exist. But I've noticed that some of them are
pretty ingenious. Some have large cardboard boxes to sleep in,
usually refrigerator boxes, and they will build a small fire nearby to
warm the box without setting it on fire.

When I get to the point of homelessness, I want to be prepared. But I
want to have a little better setup. The idea is to have a tent of
sorts that dont need to be staked, since they need to be moved quickly
and you cant stake into concrete. Therefore, I've decided to use the
shopping cart as part of the tent. The idea is to make the tent over
the cart, and use the cart to keep it upright even in windy weather.
Yet make the tent collapse into the cart in a couple minutes so it can
be wheeled away quickly. And yes, the cart will need wheel locks for
windy weather which can be small wooden blocks carved to fit the
wheels.

I'm looking for ideas how to design this setup. I have a few canvas
painters tarps to make the tent, but it's how to make it around the
shopping cart that has me puzzled.

One last thing, I'd like to find a way to heat the tent in cold
weather, using scrap wood and paper garbage, but it cant be a heavy
item to cart around.

Ron

wrote:
Due to circumstances, I will be homeless at sometime in the future,
and that day may not be too far away. I've been watching the homeless
people downtown. Most have an old shopping cart and cart around their
few possessions, which is normally some spare clothing, shoes, some
blankets, fork and knife, matches, metal cup, and maybe a transistor
radio. Normally they have some sort of snacks and many have liquor.

When they dont go to places like the Rescue Mission to stay, they
usually sleep under bridges, under loading docks, oir abandoned
buildings of they exist. But I've noticed that some of them are
pretty ingenious. Some have large cardboard boxes to sleep in,
usually refrigerator boxes, and they will build a small fire nearby to
warm the box without setting it on fire.

When I get to the point of homelessness, I want to be prepared. But I
want to have a little better setup. The idea is to have a tent of
sorts that dont need to be staked, since they need to be moved quickly
and you cant stake into concrete. Therefore, I've decided to use the
shopping cart as part of the tent. The idea is to make the tent over
the cart, and use the cart to keep it upright even in windy weather.
Yet make the tent collapse into the cart in a couple minutes so it can
be wheeled away quickly. And yes, the cart will need wheel locks for
windy weather which can be small wooden blocks carved to fit the
wheels.

I'm looking for ideas how to design this setup. I have a few canvas
painters tarps to make the tent, but it's how to make it around the
shopping cart that has me puzzled.

One last thing, I'd like to find a way to heat the tent in cold
weather, using scrap wood and paper garbage, but it cant be a heavy
item to cart around.

Ron


I think there is a government program for your problem. I believe it
is called "Cash for Shopping Carts" or something like that. If there
isn't, just claim to be a victim of discrimination and some lawyer will
take your case, put you up in a hotel, and only take about half of what
the defendant pays to settle. Is this a great country or what???

On Jan 14, 8:20*am, wrote:
Due to circumstances, I will be homeless at sometime in the future,
and that day may not be too far away. *I've been watching the homeless
people downtown. *Most have an old shopping cart and cart around their
few possessions, which is normally some spare clothing, shoes, some
blankets, fork and knife, matches, metal cup, and maybe a transistor
radio. *Normally they have some sort of snacks and many have liquor. *

When they dont go to places like the Rescue Mission to stay, they
usually sleep under bridges, under loading docks, oir abandoned
buildings of they exist. *But I've noticed that some of them are
pretty ingenious. *Some have large cardboard boxes to sleep in,
usually refrigerator boxes, and they will build a small fire nearby to
warm the box without setting it on fire. *

When I get to the point of homelessness, I want to be prepared. *But I
want to have a little better setup. *The idea is to have a tent of
sorts that dont need to be staked, since they need to be moved quickly
and you cant stake into concrete. Therefore, I've decided to use the
shopping cart as part of the tent. *The idea is to make the tent over
the cart, and use the cart to keep it upright even in windy weather.
Yet make the tent collapse into the cart in a couple minutes so it can
be wheeled away quickly. *And yes, the cart will need wheel locks for
windy weather which can be small wooden blocks carved to fit the
wheels.

I'm looking for ideas how to design this setup. *I have a few canvas
painters tarps to make the tent, but it's how to make it around the
shopping cart that has me puzzled.

One last thing, I'd like to find a way to heat the tent in cold
weather, using scrap wood and paper garbage, but it cant be a heavy
item to cart around.

Ron

Transistor radio? I haven't heard that term for 30 or 40 years.

Paul

On Jan 14, 8:20*am, wrote:
Due to circumstances, I will be homeless at sometime in the future,
and that day may not be too far away.

I would seriously work at not being homeless if I had a clue I would
be.

Worse case, if you are in a cold environment, go to jail.

On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:20:19 -0600, wrote Re
Homes for the Homeless:

I'm looking for ideas how to design this setup. I have a few canvas
painters tarps to make the tent, but it's how to make it around the
shopping cart that has me puzzled.

How about sleeping in the cart with the tarp over you and the cart?
--
Work is the curse of the drinking class.

Works fine, unless you are taller than about two foot three.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Caesar Romano" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:20:19 -0600,
wrote Re
Homes for the Homeless:

I'm looking for ideas how to design this setup. I have a
few canvas
painters tarps to make the tent, but it's how to make it
around the
shopping cart that has me puzzled.

How about sleeping in the cart with the tarp over you and
the cart?
--
Work is the curse of the drinking class.

If you have the chance, please buy the book "Subways are for
Sleeping". Might be way out of print, I read a copy in the
1970s.

Here is some of the text reproduced, not totally accurately
(the book didn't have pictures.)
http://www.harpers.org/archive/1956/03/0007088

Paperback on Amazon. I didn't know they are worth $40! Wow!
http://www.amazon.com/Subways-are-sl...5020726&sr=8-2

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


wrote in message
...
Due to circumstances, I will be homeless at sometime in the
future,
and that day may not be too far away. I've been watching
the homeless
people downtown. Most have an old shopping cart and cart
around their
few possessions, which is normally some spare clothing,
shoes, some
blankets, fork and knife, matches, metal cup, and maybe a
transistor
radio. Normally they have some sort of snacks and many have
liquor.

When they dont go to places like the Rescue Mission to stay,
they
usually sleep under bridges, under loading docks, oir
abandoned
buildings of they exist. But I've noticed that some of them
are
pretty ingenious. Some have large cardboard boxes to sleep
in,
usually refrigerator boxes, and they will build a small fire
nearby to
warm the box without setting it on fire.

When I get to the point of homelessness, I want to be
prepared. But I
want to have a little better setup. The idea is to have a
tent of
sorts that dont need to be staked, since they need to be
moved quickly
and you cant stake into concrete. Therefore, I've decided to
use the
shopping cart as part of the tent. The idea is to make the
tent over
the cart, and use the cart to keep it upright even in windy
weather.
Yet make the tent collapse into the cart in a couple minutes
so it can
be wheeled away quickly. And yes, the cart will need wheel
locks for
windy weather which can be small wooden blocks carved to fit
the
wheels.

I'm looking for ideas how to design this setup. I have a
few canvas
painters tarps to make the tent, but it's how to make it
around the
shopping cart that has me puzzled.

One last thing, I'd like to find a way to heat the tent in
cold
weather, using scrap wood and paper garbage, but it cant be
a heavy
item to cart around.

Ron

To better answer your questions. You'll be needing some kind
of pad under you for sleeping. Otherwise you'll freeze in a
hurry. I'm not sure about the tent. You can use a metal can
as a firebox, punch some air holes around the bottom. Metal
can from behind restaurant, the #10 size is good.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


wrote in message
...
Due to circumstances, I will be homeless at sometime in the
future,
and that day may not be too far away. I've been watching
the homeless
people downtown. Most have an old shopping cart and cart
around their
few possessions, which is normally some spare clothing,
shoes, some
blankets, fork and knife, matches, metal cup, and maybe a
transistor
radio. Normally they have some sort of snacks and many have
liquor.

When they dont go to places like the Rescue Mission to stay,
they
usually sleep under bridges, under loading docks, oir
abandoned
buildings of they exist. But I've noticed that some of them
are
pretty ingenious. Some have large cardboard boxes to sleep
in,
usually refrigerator boxes, and they will build a small fire
nearby to
warm the box without setting it on fire.

When I get to the point of homelessness, I want to be
prepared. But I
want to have a little better setup. The idea is to have a
tent of
sorts that dont need to be staked, since they need to be
moved quickly
and you cant stake into concrete. Therefore, I've decided to
use the
shopping cart as part of the tent. The idea is to make the
tent over
the cart, and use the cart to keep it upright even in windy
weather.
Yet make the tent collapse into the cart in a couple minutes
so it can
be wheeled away quickly. And yes, the cart will need wheel
locks for
windy weather which can be small wooden blocks carved to fit
the
wheels.

I'm looking for ideas how to design this setup. I have a
few canvas
painters tarps to make the tent, but it's how to make it
around the
shopping cart that has me puzzled.

One last thing, I'd like to find a way to heat the tent in
cold
weather, using scrap wood and paper garbage, but it cant be
a heavy
item to cart around.

Ron

In article
,
Pavel314 wrote:



Transistor radio? I haven't heard that term for 30 or 40 years.

Paul

The distinction is important. Those B batteries are too heavy for the
homeless to lug around.

In article ,
wrote:

Due to circumstances, I will be homeless at sometime in the future,
and that day may not be too far away. I've been watching the homeless
people downtown. Most have an old shopping cart and cart around their
few possessions, which is normally some spare clothing, shoes, some
blankets, fork and knife, matches, metal cup, and maybe a transistor
radio. Normally they have some sort of snacks and many have liquor.

When they dont go to places like the Rescue Mission to stay, they
usually sleep under bridges, under loading docks, oir abandoned
buildings of they exist. But I've noticed that some of them are
pretty ingenious. Some have large cardboard boxes to sleep in,
usually refrigerator boxes, and they will build a small fire nearby to
warm the box without setting it on fire.

When I get to the point of homelessness, I want to be prepared. But I
want to have a little better setup. The idea is to have a tent of
sorts that dont need to be staked, since they need to be moved quickly
and you cant stake into concrete. Therefore, I've decided to use the
shopping cart as part of the tent. The idea is to make the tent over
the cart, and use the cart to keep it upright even in windy weather.
Yet make the tent collapse into the cart in a couple minutes so it can
be wheeled away quickly. And yes, the cart will need wheel locks for
windy weather which can be small wooden blocks carved to fit the
wheels.

I'm looking for ideas how to design this setup. I have a few canvas
painters tarps to make the tent, but it's how to make it around the
shopping cart that has me puzzled.

One last thing, I'd like to find a way to heat the tent in cold
weather, using scrap wood and paper garbage, but it cant be a heavy
item to cart around.

Ron

Peeple hoo kan spelll don't end up homeless, so I know yer just yanking
chains. But a google image search for "shopping cart tent" (without
quotes) turns up some fun stuff:

http://cheekmagazine.wordpress.com/2...your-shopping-
cart/

http://www.designboom.com/contest/vi...tem_pk=6175&p=
3

http://www.examiner.com/autos-in-den...se-a-car-guy-c
an-believe-in

On 1/14/2011 8:20 AM, wrote:
Due to circumstances, I will be homeless at sometime in the future,
and that day may not be too far away. I've been watching the homeless
people downtown. Most have an old shopping cart and cart around their
few possessions, which is normally some spare clothing, shoes, some
blankets, fork and knife, matches, metal cup, and maybe a transistor
radio. Normally they have some sort of snacks and many have liquor.

When they dont go to places like the Rescue Mission to stay, they
usually sleep under bridges, under loading docks, oir abandoned
buildings of they exist. But I've noticed that some of them are
pretty ingenious. Some have large cardboard boxes to sleep in,
usually refrigerator boxes, and they will build a small fire nearby to
warm the box without setting it on fire.

When I get to the point of homelessness, I want to be prepared. But I
want to have a little better setup. The idea is to have a tent of
sorts that dont need to be staked, since they need to be moved quickly
and you cant stake into concrete. Therefore, I've decided to use the
shopping cart as part of the tent. The idea is to make the tent over
the cart, and use the cart to keep it upright even in windy weather.
Yet make the tent collapse into the cart in a couple minutes so it can
be wheeled away quickly. And yes, the cart will need wheel locks for
windy weather which can be small wooden blocks carved to fit the
wheels.

I'm looking for ideas how to design this setup. I have a few canvas
painters tarps to make the tent, but it's how to make it around the
shopping cart that has me puzzled.

One last thing, I'd like to find a way to heat the tent in cold
weather, using scrap wood and paper garbage, but it cant be a heavy
item to cart around.


This looks like a troll to to me, but I'll bite nonetheless for the
benefit of someone, possibly.

Most homeless people don't accumulate possessions. It's a hindrance,
and pushing either a cart or carrying a bag is a sure sign. I'd forgo both.

Setting up camp is largely frowned upon. The railroads will run off
and destroy any they come upon, and cities tend to do the same. Largely
homeless find some existing shelter (under bridge or doorway or in an
abandoned building) for the night and then move along during the day.
Other homeless people can be a large problem. Get to know them and how
to deal with them.

A small tarp (and probably some poly) and a pad is what you need. You
can tie the tarp off as needed or just cover it over yourself (AT
through hikers only carry a tarp). A good blanket or two is essential.
You'll need to be able to stash that.

For heat, you can use those cheapy emergency candles. In a small
space several candles is a lot of warmth. If you should have some
shelter, the mad houser stove is made from paint buckets:

http://smartech.gatech.edu/handle/1853/20520

Food is seldom a problem, lot of places feed the homeless, it is
shelter that is the problem.

Jeff





Ron

Peeple hoo kan spelll don't end up homeless, so I know yer just yanking
chains. But a google image search for "shopping cart tent" (without
quotes) turns up some fun stuff:

Sure they do. Although I also think this is a troll. All it takes it
is bad luck and no friends to come to the rescue.

The handful of homeless I know/knew were all college educated. Some I
had no idea that they were sleeping in the woods or doorways. Not to say
that many homeless are poorly educated, but many are quite literate,
some had very good jobs. Among the handful I know of, one was a Lockheed
Engineer, another a Book Keeper. Circumstances vary widely.

Friends and family are keeping many, many from having a much tougher
time. But that doesn't help everyone, and there is only so much that
friends can do or want to do. One thing is certain. Improving your lot
in life once homeless is very hard indeed.

Jeff

On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:20:19 -0600, wrote:

Due to circumstances, I will be homeless at sometime in the future,
and that day may not be too far away. I've been watching the homeless
people downtown. Most have an old shopping cart and cart around their
few possessions, which is normally some spare clothing, shoes, some

Be creative. Do something to get national attention and you can get
put up in a ritzy hotel.

In article ,
Jeff Thies wrote:

Improving your lot
in life once homeless is very hard indeed.

Of course I was joking about homelessness being limited to the lower
socio-economic classes. But I started my adult life homeless, leaving my
hometown on a freight train. I ate in rescue missions, sold blood
plasma, and worked minimum wage jobs as I could find them. I scrubbed
toilets, I harvested fruit, I lived in filthy wino hotels, ad infinitum.

Improving your lot in life has more to do with attitude than anything
else. You could put any self-made millionaire out on the street with
nothing but a toothbrush, even deny him access to his entire circle of
friends, and he'd be a millionaire again within a few years.

On 1/14/2011 11:48 AM, Smitty Two wrote:
In ,
Jeff wrote:

Improving your lot
in life once homeless is very hard indeed.

Of course I was joking about homelessness being limited to the lower
socio-economic classes. But I started my adult life homeless, leaving my
hometown on a freight train. I ate in rescue missions, sold blood
plasma, and worked minimum wage jobs as I could find them. I scrubbed
toilets, I harvested fruit, I lived in filthy wino hotels, ad infinitum.

Improving your lot in life has more to do with attitude than anything
else. You could put any self-made millionaire out on the street with
nothing but a toothbrush, even deny him access to his entire circle of
friends, and he'd be a millionaire again within a few years.

especially if you can intercept the orange crop report and invest
accordingly.

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:53:03 -0800, Smitty Two
wrote Re Homes for the Homeless:

http://cheekmagazine.wordpress.com/2009/12/02/put-this-in-your-shopping-cart/

That one is really nice.
--
Work is the curse of the drinking class.

On Jan 14, 12:57*pm, Mysterious Traveler
wrote:

Get a job you absolutely hate, work your ass off, and twenty years
later you will look back on it as a great learning experience and one
of the best jobs you ever had.

Possibly the worst advice given on AHR to anyone about anything at
anytime, and that's including the guy who suggested a homeowner use
his tongue to find out if a circuit was dead. Oh, damn, I just
realized you were the guy that asked the question, sorry - I guess you
did follow that advice. Still hearing the buzzing?

I'd suggest a new nom de plume - how about Missing In Translation?
It's more apropos.

R

On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 06:48:38 -0800 (PST), Thomas
wrote:

Worse case, if you are in a cold environment, go to jail.

Jail? Just throw a brick through a post office window (or rob the
place) and sit down on the curb until authorities arrive. Ask for a
speedy trial, plead guilty, then go to federal prison. Food is better
than in jail. There is also a barbed wire fence around the place to
keep wild animals out.

On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:20:19 -0600, wrote:

Due to circumstances, I will be homeless at sometime in the future,
and that day may not be too far away. I've been watching the homeless
people downtown. Most have an old shopping cart and cart around their
few possessions, which is normally some spare clothing, shoes, some
blankets, fork and knife, matches, metal cup, and maybe a transistor
radio. Normally they have some sort of snacks and many have liquor.


have you tried social service agencies? hell, try welfare. most folks
on the street have severe mental or drug problems. you seem coherent.
state and county agencies may be able to help. have you enrolled in
medicaid? if you're truly that poor you may be able for healthcare.

dont give up. fight it. make a pain in the ass out of yourself.

wrote in message
...
Due to circumstances, I will be homeless at sometime in the future,
and that day may not be too far away. I've been watching the homeless
people downtown. Most have an old shopping cart and cart around their
few possessions, which is normally some spare clothing, shoes, some
blankets, fork and knife, matches, metal cup, and maybe a transistor
radio. Normally they have some sort of snacks and many have liquor.

When they dont go to places like the Rescue Mission to stay, they
usually sleep under bridges, under loading docks, oir abandoned
buildings of they exist. But I've noticed that some of them are
pretty ingenious. Some have large cardboard boxes to sleep in,
usually refrigerator boxes, and they will build a small fire nearby to
warm the box without setting it on fire.

When I get to the point of homelessness, I want to be prepared. But I
want to have a little better setup. The idea is to have a tent of
sorts that dont need to be staked, since they need to be moved quickly
and you cant stake into concrete. Therefore, I've decided to use the
shopping cart as part of the tent. The idea is to make the tent over
the cart, and use the cart to keep it upright even in windy weather.
Yet make the tent collapse into the cart in a couple minutes so it can
be wheeled away quickly. And yes, the cart will need wheel locks for
windy weather which can be small wooden blocks carved to fit the
wheels.

I'm looking for ideas how to design this setup. I have a few canvas
painters tarps to make the tent, but it's how to make it around the
shopping cart that has me puzzled.

One last thing, I'd like to find a way to heat the tent in cold
weather, using scrap wood and paper garbage, but it cant be a heavy
item to cart around.

Ron


Rarely do I pick a fight, flaming is not my normal style.

I love a good parody. I enjoy a good one, even if they are off topic.

However; I don't much care for people who make fun of those less fortune.

May I suggest you TROLL with a kinder topic.

Colbyt

They should try an Angry Nine to power up the radio. Lasts
longer than B batteries.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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..


"Smitty Two" wrote in message
news

Transistor radio? I haven't heard that term for 30 or 40
years.

Paul

The distinction is important. Those B batteries are too
heavy for the
homeless to lug around.

Work on your radio voice.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Metspitzer" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:20:19 -0600,
wrote:

Due to circumstances, I will be homeless at sometime in the
future,
and that day may not be too far away. I've been watching
the homeless
people downtown. Most have an old shopping cart and cart
around their
few possessions, which is normally some spare clothing,
shoes, some

Be creative. Do something to get national attention and you
can get
put up in a ritzy hotel.

In article ,
Caesar Romano wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:20:19 -0600, wrote Re
Homes for the Homeless:

I'm looking for ideas how to design this setup. I have a few canvas
painters tarps to make the tent, but it's how to make it around the
shopping cart that has me puzzled.

How about sleeping in the cart with the tarp over you and the cart?
--
Work is the curse of the drinking class.

Better yet, get one of those dry cleaning bags, the ones that say "This bag
is not a toy" on them, and put it directly over your face before going to
sleep.


--
When the game is over, the pawn and the king are returned to the same box.

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar.org

Ken wrote:

I think there is a government program for your problem. I believe it
is called "Cash for Shopping Carts" or something like that. If there
isn't, just claim to be a victim of discrimination and some lawyer
will take your case, put you up in a hotel, and only take about half
of what the defendant pays to settle. Is this a great country or
what???

Yes, you are correct. A few years ago I heard about a private organization
that tried to solve a grievous problem in L.A. which was a foreshadowing of
a current problem.

It seems owner of the shopping carts, say "Lucky Giant," had operatives
prowling the streets looking for their purloined portmanteaus. When one was
found, they strong-armed the granny-lady out of the way, dumped the contents
of the cart on the sidewalk, and repossessed the cart! This, of course,
essentially evicted the cart's resident.

In a fit of compassion, a group was formed to solicit donations with a view
toward buying carts to give away to those unfortunate evictees. I think the
group's name was "Habitat for Hobos" or something similar.

This group also produced a video tape on how to successfully
"dumbster-dive"; how to spot the best dumpsters, what sort of food to
ignore, that sort of thing. The video was entitles "Gourmet Dining for Those
Who Don't Have Shoestrings."