On Dec 14, 1:11*am, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
On 12/13/2010 5:23 PM, Frank wrote:





On 12/13/2010 5:35 PM, HeyBub wrote:
Higgs Boson wrote:
Most of us at ahr are well-educated, highly-sophisticated critters, so
I won't go into detail about the many ways Earth's fast-moving climate
change can be linked to home repair (if ya gotta make a linkg)
Anybody want to play? Please post your specific links. I will, too.

Of course the real biggie -- what we are leaving our children and
grandchildren -- is not quantifiable. Pity. If it were, maybe some
of the major whores (apologies to honest sex workers ) in Congress
might rethink their shrill denials. But don't hold your breath:
Greed, lust for power and position, and in some cases religious
fanaticism are the engines that drive these wretched climate deniers...

Now to the SUBJECT : It's about a book entitled "Science as a Contact
Sport", by the late (died in July), great, much lamented climate
scientist, Steven Schneider. Schneider, co-winner of the Nobel Peace
Prize with other members of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate
Change (IPCC) and Al Gore, has written a clear, readable, pull-no-
punches account of how reputable scientists (like Jim Hansen) have
been trying for over 30 years to warn us about what is happening to
Planet Earth.

Even ahr members who are well-versed in climate change could benefit
from the history so clearly and economically set forth in Schneider's
book. It could also help you to discuss/debate the issues with well-
meaning but uninformed friends, and maybe, just maybe, with the
"useful idiots" as they have been so felicitously dubbed by our
corporate masters and their Congressional stooges.

The neat thing about science is that theories can be adjusted by the
facts:

For example:
The 2008 Climate Conference was held in Poznan, Poland. Temperatures
were 11
degrees below normal.

The 2009 COP was held in Copenhagen. All of Europe, including Sweden,
was in
the grip of the fiercest winter in many decades.

They learned. This year, the conference was held in Cancun, Mexico. Even
though the conference was in Mexico, the city experienced record lows (54
degrees).

Just like house trailers attract tornados, I suspect the UN Climate
Conference causes cold weather.

Regrettably, in climate science, we've seen too many examples of facts
adjusted to fit the theories.

Most enlightening to me was the Heartland Institutes extensive
examination of ground temperature stations which showed the reason for
temperature increase measurements was encroaching civilization like
parking lots with parked cars and houses. Ninety percent were out of spec.

Then even if the earth is warming, how much is man made, if any? We all
know past history of the earth with cooling and warming cycles.

Thirdly, would change be cataclysmic as Gore suggests. there is no past
history to substantiate this.

To take draconian measures to control the climate with inadequate data
would be the height of foolishness. Those promulgating it are the
liberal control freaks.

I remember reading something about some of the temperature sensors being
over or around air conditioning condensing units which put out a lot of
heat when running. I hate to see the dumbassification of science going
on around the country. :-)

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Only democrat believe in global warming Duf!
I bet Palin doesn't.
Yep, here it is!
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n6189211.shtml
Now we know she's applied her mighty intellect to the problem, we can
all rest easy. Heh Heh.