With the changing of clock time coming up. I like to put new batteries
in all the clocks. I have about half dozen clocks around the house. I
do the clock batteries and time set at church, also. We have about 25
various clocks at church.

Yes, about this time of year. I like to dig out all my various bug out
bags, fanny packs, tool boxes, cave exploration bags, clothing
pockets, and every other nook and cranny. Change the batteries in
various hidden and sequestered lights.

Of course, the smoke detectors, too. I was talking to my Dad over
lunch. he says his detectors beep when they need a new battery, which
can be as long as two years. I think waiting that long is false
economy. I really reccomended he replace the batteries every year.
Cheaper than fire damage. Eveready alkalines (I think?) at Home Depot
in the multipacks, work out about a buck each. They also have good
price on AA Energizer. For the clocks. It's also wise to push the test
button on smoke detectors. I've had them stop working, and the button
test is important.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"Stormin Mormon" wrote
in :

With the changing of clock time coming up. I like to put
new batteries in all the clocks. I have about half dozen
clocks around the house. I do the clock batteries and time
set at church, also. We have about 25 various clocks at
church.

inanity snipped

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

So what /exactly/ is the point of your post?

BTW, Costco's "Kirkland" batteries last the same or longer than
the name brands, and cost about half less.

And PLEASE use a spellchecker when posting. Your "Usenet
application", Microsoft Outhouse Express 6.00.2900.5931, has one
built in, you know.

And WHAT is that dot after the www.lame_dumb_****.org site
address?

AFA the fictional money-making character referred to by some as
"jesus", many of us stopped reading fairy tales years ago. So
you're either preaching to the converted /or/ just making
yourself look like a damn fool. FYI.

Not to mention that judging by your posts in the "pigeon"
thread, you're one sick mother****er.

Nothing like jesusy love for all things living, huh? Oh, wait -
all the dumb stupid animals were just created to serve us
superior x-ians as food, torture and/or substitute sex objects
(for when the choir boys are on tour), and target practice,
right?

Plonk. (Look it up.)


--
"Anytime I hear the word "jesus", I reach for my K-Y jelly."
- 21st Century Choir Boy

On 10/10/2010 11:42 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
With the changing of clock time coming up. I like to put new batteries
in all the clocks. I have about half dozen clocks around the house. I
do the clock batteries and time set at church, also. We have about 25
various clocks at church.

Yes, about this time of year. I like to dig out all my various bug out
bags, fanny packs, tool boxes, cave exploration bags, clothing
pockets, and every other nook and cranny. Change the batteries in
various hidden and sequestered lights.

Of course, the smoke detectors, too. I was talking to my Dad over
lunch. he says his detectors beep when they need a new battery, which
can be as long as two years. I think waiting that long is false
economy. I really reccomended he replace the batteries every year.
Cheaper than fire damage. Eveready alkalines (I think?) at Home Depot
in the multipacks, work out about a buck each. They also have good
price on AA Energizer. For the clocks. It's also wise to push the test
button on smoke detectors. I've had them stop working, and the button
test is important.


I have redundant detectors, and redundant clocks. I don't replace
batteries until they die. Don't wanna spend all that money, or put more
batteries than I have to in the landfill.

--
aem sends...

On Oct 10, 10:42 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
With the changing of clock time coming up. I like to put new batteries
in all the clocks. I have about half dozen clocks around the house. I
do the clock batteries and time set at church, also. We have about 25
various clocks at church.

Yes, about this time of year. I like to dig out all my various bug out
bags, fanny packs, tool boxes, cave exploration bags, clothing
pockets, and every other nook and cranny. Change the batteries in
various hidden and sequestered lights.

Of course, the smoke detectors, too. I was talking to my Dad over
lunch. he says his detectors beep when they need a new battery, which
can be as long as two years. I think waiting that long is false
economy. I really reccomended he replace the batteries every year.
Cheaper than fire damage. Eveready alkalines (I think?) at Home Depot
in the multipacks, work out about a buck each. They also have good
price on AA Energizer. For the clocks. It's also wise to push the test
button on smoke detectors. I've had them stop working, and the button
test is important.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

Andy comments:

I don't fix anything until it breaks.......

On Oct 10, 10:42*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
With the changing of clock time coming up. I like to put new batteries
in all the clocks. I have about half dozen clocks around the house. I
do the clock batteries and time set at church, also. We have about 25
various clocks at church.

Yes, about this time of year. I like to dig out all my various bug out
bags, fanny packs, tool boxes, cave exploration bags, clothing
pockets, and every other nook and cranny. Change the batteries in
various hidden and sequestered lights.

Of course, the smoke detectors, too. I was talking to my Dad over
lunch. he says his detectors beep when they need a new battery, which
can be as long as two years. I think waiting that long is false
economy. I really reccomended he replace the batteries every year.
Cheaper than fire damage. Eveready alkalines (I think?) at Home Depot
in the multipacks, work out about a buck each. They also have good
price on AA Energizer. For the clocks. It's also wise to push the test
button on smoke detectors. I've had them stop working, and the button
test is important.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

Thats a waste of time , many things last years with batteries.

On Oct 11, 12:57*am, thanatoid wrote:
"Stormin Mormon" wrote
:

With the changing of clock time coming up. I like to put
new batteries in all the clocks. I have about half dozen
clocks around the house. I do the clock batteries and time
set at church, also. We have about 25 various clocks at
church.

inanity snipped

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

So what /exactly/ is the point of your post?

BTW, Costco's "Kirkland" batteries last the same or longer than
the name brands, and cost about half less.

And PLEASE use a spellchecker when posting. Your "Usenet
application", Microsoft Outhouse Express 6.00.2900.5931, has one
built in, you know.

And WHAT is that dot after thewww.lame_dumb_****.orgsite
address?

AFA the fictional money-making character referred to by some as
"jesus", many of us stopped reading fairy tales years ago. So
you're either preaching to the converted /or/ just making
yourself look like a damn fool. FYI.

Not to mention that judging by your posts in the "pigeon"
thread, you're one sick mother****er.

Nothing like jesusy love for all things living, huh? Oh, wait -
all the dumb stupid animals were just created to serve us
superior x-ians as food, torture and/or substitute sex objects
(for when the choir boys are on tour), and target practice,
right?

Plonk. (Look it up.)

--
"Anytime I hear the word "jesus", I reach for my K-Y jelly."
- 21st Century Choir Boy

Do you do much recruiting? You have such a pleasant way of getting
your point across. Are there any links you can provide so others can
be more like you?

Although a brand name alkaline will be useful well beyond one year, and
I don't change them in my battery operated radios or flashlights until
they show signs of weakening, I agree with Stormy, in that it is prudent
to install fresh batt's yearly in smoke detectors. Consider the
ramifications of a smoke detector failing, vs. grabbing a flashlight
that offers up a puny yellow beam.

So, change out those smoke detector batteries every year, and use the
still useful old ones in that transistor radio.

Smoke detectors too, have a finite life, so attention should be paid to
replacing the entire unit after 8 -10 years of service.

Most smoke detectors made now have expiration dates printed on them, and
some come with lithium-ion batteries installed in a sealed unit that
will have to be discarded in 10 years, when the nearly depleted battery
will sound a warning.

And, proper disposal is the right thing to do ... there is a facility in
my 'hood that accepts all things toxic - batteries, organic solvents,
and such.

Joe

On 10/10/2010 11:42 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:


Of course, the smoke detectors, too. I was talking to my Dad over
lunch. he says his detectors beep when they need a new battery, which
can be as long as two years. I think waiting that long is false
economy. I really reccomended he replace the batteries every year.
Cheaper than fire damage. Eveready alkalines (I think?) at Home Depot
in the multipacks, work out about a buck each. They also have good
price on AA Energizer. For the clocks. It's also wise to push the test
button on smoke detectors. I've had them stop working, and the button
test is important.


Waste of time and $$ unless you've got atypical smoke detectors that
don't have low battery detection mechanisms. Mine have both a blinking
red light to show normal operation and the chirp circuit when the
battery is too low. Since they are UL approved, I suspect that the
likelihood of a too weak battery continuing to activate the blinking
light yet failing to start the chirping circuit is much lower than the
risk of being killed in an automobile accident in my densely developed
metro area.

The only time I test my smoke alarms is after being away on vacation for
more than 4 days. I figure maybe the alarm was chirping while I was
away but stopped because the battery wore down too far, yet might
continue to provide the low current necessary to occasionally blink the
red light. I change the batteries when the alarm starts to chirp.

As for battery operated clocks, I change the batteries when the clock
stops. I get at least 2 years of timekeeping from a typical quartz
movement powered by a single fresh AA alkaline battery. It takes a
pretty inattentive person not to notice a stopped clock and who depends
on only one clock without a nearby backup on their wrist or as part of a
cell phone.

Peter wrote in :

On 10/10/2010 11:42 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:


Of course, the smoke detectors, too. I was talking to my Dad over
lunch. he says his detectors beep when they need a new battery, which
can be as long as two years. I think waiting that long is false
economy. I really reccomended he replace the batteries every year.
Cheaper than fire damage. Eveready alkalines (I think?) at Home Depot
in the multipacks, work out about a buck each. They also have good
price on AA Energizer. For the clocks. It's also wise to push the test
button on smoke detectors. I've had them stop working, and the button
test is important.


Waste of time and $$ unless you've got atypical smoke detectors that
don't have low battery detection mechanisms. Mine have both a blinking
red light to show normal operation and the chirp circuit when the
battery is too low. Since they are UL approved, I suspect that the
likelihood of a too weak battery continuing to activate the blinking
light yet failing to start the chirping circuit is much lower than the
risk of being killed in an automobile accident in my densely developed
metro area.

The only time I test my smoke alarms is after being away on vacation for
more than 4 days. I figure maybe the alarm was chirping while I was
away but stopped because the battery wore down too far, yet might
continue to provide the low current necessary to occasionally blink the
red light. I change the batteries when the alarm starts to chirp.

As for battery operated clocks, I change the batteries when the clock
stops. I get at least 2 years of timekeeping from a typical quartz
movement powered by a single fresh AA alkaline battery. It takes a
pretty inattentive person not to notice a stopped clock and who depends
on only one clock without a nearby backup on their wrist or as part of a
cell phone.



it's wise to check the batteries every 6 months or so,because alkalines
LEAK and the device's contacts get eaten away.

some items,you might not be able to remove the leaky cells if you let it go
too long.As far as replacement by the battery manufacturer,that doesn't
help if the item is no longer available,like for my Pioneer CD player.


--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

I changed all the batteries in my smoke detectors one time and I have
now decided that I will not do that again.

First alert smoke detectors, connected to house power with battery
backup. Changed all the batteries in all six smoke detectors in the
house. After doing this one of the upstairs smoke detectors (there are
three) would randomly beep every once in awhile. Unfortunately since
its random, it will chirp and then maybe not make another chirp for a
few hours or days. Changed all the batteries again but the problem
still persisted. Found a review on amazon.com that said this is a
common issue with the first alert detectors I have, to solve you turn
off the breaker controlling the smoke detectors and pull out all the
batteries, wait a minute and then put them back in and turn the power
back on.

Big pain in the a

Bob Villa wrote in

ups.com:

snip

Do you do much recruiting?

No.

You have such a pleasant way of getting your point across.

Thank you.

Are there any links you can
provide so others can be more like you?

Many, but I don't provide links, that's what your friend Google
is for.



--
"Anytime I hear the word "culture", I reach for my iPad."
- 21st Century Humanoid

On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 05:57:50 +0000 (UTC), thanatoid
wrote:

"Stormin Mormon" wrote
in :


So what /exactly/ is the point of your post?

Um, fire prevention week?

And PLEASE use a spellchecker when posting.

You must be new here, eh?

Not to mention that judging by your posts in the "pigeon"
thread, you're one sick mother****er.

Oh, wait -
all the dumb stupid animals were just created to serve us
superior x-ians as food, torture and/or substitute sex objects
(for when the choir boys are on tour), and target practice,
right?


You may see a cute little deer. I see steaks with a leather jacket
wrapped around it.

Plonk. (Look it up.)

Oh no, another "Ponkasuarus" © TDD

"Jim Yanik" wrote in message
4...
Peter wrote in :

On 10/10/2010 11:42 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:


Of course, the smoke detectors, too. I was talking to my Dad over
lunch. he says his detectors beep when they need a new battery, which
can be as long as two years. I think waiting that long is false
economy. I really reccomended he replace the batteries every year.
Cheaper than fire damage. Eveready alkalines (I think?) at Home Depot
in the multipacks, work out about a buck each. They also have good
price on AA Energizer. For the clocks. It's also wise to push the test
button on smoke detectors. I've had them stop working, and the button
test is important.


Waste of time and $$ unless you've got atypical smoke detectors that
don't have low battery detection mechanisms. Mine have both a blinking
red light to show normal operation and the chirp circuit when the
battery is too low. Since they are UL approved, I suspect that the
likelihood of a too weak battery continuing to activate the blinking
light yet failing to start the chirping circuit is much lower than the
risk of being killed in an automobile accident in my densely developed
metro area.

The only time I test my smoke alarms is after being away on vacation for
more than 4 days. I figure maybe the alarm was chirping while I was
away but stopped because the battery wore down too far, yet might
continue to provide the low current necessary to occasionally blink the
red light. I change the batteries when the alarm starts to chirp.

As for battery operated clocks, I change the batteries when the clock
stops. I get at least 2 years of timekeeping from a typical quartz
movement powered by a single fresh AA alkaline battery. It takes a
pretty inattentive person not to notice a stopped clock and who depends
on only one clock without a nearby backup on their wrist or as part of a
cell phone.



it's wise to check the batteries every 6 months or so,because alkalines
LEAK and the device's contacts get eaten away.

some items,you might not be able to remove the leaky cells if you let it
go
too long.As far as replacement by the battery manufacturer,that doesn't
help if the item is no longer available,like for my Pioneer CD player.

Good point. We can split the atom and put men on the moon, but building an
AA battery that doesn't leak seems to be beyond our technology. I'll remove
smoke alarm batteries after six months and move them into flashlights where
leaks or low power are not so dangerous. I've stopped buying 9V or special
battery alarms. I can't believe the list prices for 9V rectangular
batteries these days. Must be a 1000% profit on those.

--
Bobby G.

On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:35:37 -0500, Jim Yanik
wrote:


it's wise to check the batteries every 6 months or so,because alkalines
LEAK and the device's contacts get eaten away.

some items,you might not be able to remove the leaky cells if you let it go
too long.As far as replacement by the battery manufacturer,that doesn't
help if the item is no longer available,like for my Pioneer CD player.
I have not had an alkaline battery leak in anything I own in over 10
years. Likely more than 15. The only one's I've EVER had leak were
ones left dead for a long time. I've had more problems with the old
carbon-zinc (manganese dioxide) type leaking and swelling - and I
haven't used many of them in the last TWENTY or more years.

On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:45:57 -0400, "Robert Green"
wrote:

"Jim Yanik" wrote in message
. 44...
Peter wrote in :

On 10/10/2010 11:42 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:


Of course, the smoke detectors, too. I was talking to my Dad over
lunch. he says his detectors beep when they need a new battery, which
can be as long as two years. I think waiting that long is false
economy. I really reccomended he replace the batteries every year.
Cheaper than fire damage. Eveready alkalines (I think?) at Home Depot
in the multipacks, work out about a buck each. They also have good
price on AA Energizer. For the clocks. It's also wise to push the test
button on smoke detectors. I've had them stop working, and the button
test is important.


Waste of time and $$ unless you've got atypical smoke detectors that
don't have low battery detection mechanisms. Mine have both a blinking
red light to show normal operation and the chirp circuit when the
battery is too low. Since they are UL approved, I suspect that the
likelihood of a too weak battery continuing to activate the blinking
light yet failing to start the chirping circuit is much lower than the
risk of being killed in an automobile accident in my densely developed
metro area.

The only time I test my smoke alarms is after being away on vacation for
more than 4 days. I figure maybe the alarm was chirping while I was
away but stopped because the battery wore down too far, yet might
continue to provide the low current necessary to occasionally blink the
red light. I change the batteries when the alarm starts to chirp.

As for battery operated clocks, I change the batteries when the clock
stops. I get at least 2 years of timekeeping from a typical quartz
movement powered by a single fresh AA alkaline battery. It takes a
pretty inattentive person not to notice a stopped clock and who depends
on only one clock without a nearby backup on their wrist or as part of a
cell phone.



it's wise to check the batteries every 6 months or so,because alkalines
LEAK and the device's contacts get eaten away.

some items,you might not be able to remove the leaky cells if you let it
go
too long.As far as replacement by the battery manufacturer,that doesn't
help if the item is no longer available,like for my Pioneer CD player.

Good point. We can split the atom and put men on the moon, but building an
AA battery that doesn't leak seems to be beyond our technology. I'll remove
smoke alarm batteries after six months and move them into flashlights where
leaks or low power are not so dangerous. I've stopped buying 9V or special
battery alarms. I can't believe the list prices for 9V rectangular
batteries these days. Must be a 1000% profit on those.
At each of at least 3 levels of distribution.

You're using several times as many devices, but worry about using more
batteries? I don't understand that logic.

"Hey, honey! Lets get four or five more smoke detectors, so we can use
fewer batteries." Huh?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"aemeijers" wrote in message
...

I have redundant detectors, and redundant clocks. I don't replace
batteries until they die. Don't wanna spend all that money, or put
more
batteries than I have to in the landfill.

--
aem sends...

I like your approach. Someday I may write a reply to Plonkasaurus
Wrecks.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Oren" wrote in message
...

You may see a cute little deer. I see steaks with a leather jacket
wrapped around it.

Plonk. (Look it up.)

Oh no, another "Ponkasuarus" © TDD

I've had alkaline batteries leak. Due to old age, or due to being
recharged. I also had a whole 24 pack of Harbor Freight AA cells leak,
one time. They exchanged them, no questions.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


wrote in message
...

I have not had an alkaline battery leak in anything I own in over 10
years. Likely more than 15. The only one's I've EVER had leak were
ones left dead for a long time. I've had more problems with the old
carbon-zinc (manganese dioxide) type leaking and swelling - and I
haven't used many of them in the last TWENTY or more years.

Hostile, much?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"thanatoid" wrote in message
...
"Stormin Mormon" wrote
in :

With the changing of clock time coming up. I like to put
new batteries in all the clocks. I have about half dozen
clocks around the house. I do the clock batteries and time
set at church, also. We have about 25 various clocks at
church.

inanity snipped

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

So what /exactly/ is the point of your post?

BTW, Costco's "Kirkland" batteries last the same or longer than
the name brands, and cost about half less.

And PLEASE use a spellchecker when posting. Your "Usenet
application", Microsoft Outhouse Express 6.00.2900.5931, has one
built in, you know.

And WHAT is that dot after the www.lame_dumb_****.org site
address?

AFA the fictional money-making character referred to by some as
"jesus", many of us stopped reading fairy tales years ago. So
you're either preaching to the converted /or/ just making
yourself look like a damn fool. FYI.

Not to mention that judging by your posts in the "pigeon"
thread, you're one sick mother****er.

Nothing like jesusy love for all things living, huh? Oh, wait -
all the dumb stupid animals were just created to serve us
superior x-ians as food, torture and/or substitute sex objects
(for when the choir boys are on tour), and target practice,
right?

Plonk. (Look it up.)


--
"Anytime I hear the word "jesus", I reach for my K-Y jelly."
- 21st Century Choir Boy

On 10/11/2010 9:58 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
You're using several times as many devices, but worry about using more
batteries? I don't understand that logic.

"Hey, honey! Lets get four or five more smoke detectors, so we can use
fewer batteries." Huh?


In the stress of moving in, I automatically bought a multi-pack of
detectors, vaguely remembering an empty spot where one was. Turns out
there were several others in place. I basically have one per room, but
since I never close the doors (I know, bad fire safety practice, but I
hate stubbing my nose or toes in the dark), they backstop each other.
Clocks are one per room, since I detest wearing a watch.

I actually only have 2 clocks that use only batteries, and they eat 2-3
per year. I gave up putting backup batteries in the plug-in clocks,
since they would show the 'dead battery' light in a month. I have a
timex and a cell phone in the briefcase, if I don't want to wait for the
Atomic Clock to resynch, or to dig out the shortwave and hit WWV.

--
aem sends...

--
aem sends...

On 10/11/2010 10:38 PM, aemeijers wrote:

I actually only have 2 clocks that use only batteries, and they eat 2-3
per year. I gave up putting backup batteries in the plug-in clocks,
since they would show the 'dead battery' light in a month. I have a
timex and a cell phone in the briefcase, if I don't want to wait for the
Atomic Clock to resynch, or to dig out the shortwave and hit WWV.


Your timex keeps better time than an Atomic Clock that may have not
resynched for 23 hrs. and 22 minutes?

Speaking of battery back-up plug-in clocks, I've noticed that after a
power failure that lasts much longer than just a severe flicker, most of
mine gained or lost at least 10 seconds. I really don't like inaccurate
time pieces, so I also stopped keeping batteries in them because I would
manually reset them anyway. My find was the Casio solar powered
wavecepter wrist watch
(http://www.casio.com/products/Timepi...470DJ-1A/)with
both an analog and digital display on the face. It is solar powered and
"atomic". Makes accurately resetting the clock radios, VCRs, DVR,
microwave etc. a breeze.

On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:01:34 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

I've had alkaline batteries leak. Due to old age, or due to being
recharged. I also had a whole 24 pack of Harbor Freight AA cells leak,
one time. They exchanged them, no questions.
Were the harbour frights alkaline or Manganese Dioxide/ Zinc carbon?

Also, alkalines are NOT RECHARGEABLE, so if you recharge them, all
bets are off.

On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:02:04 -0500, Jim Yanik
wrote:

wrote in
:

On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:35:37 -0500, Jim Yanik
wrote:


it's wise to check the batteries every 6 months or so,because
alkalines LEAK and the device's contacts get eaten away.

some items,you might not be able to remove the leaky cells if you let
it go too long.As far as replacement by the battery manufacturer,that
doesn't help if the item is no longer available,like for my Pioneer CD
player.
I have not had an alkaline battery leak in anything I own in over 10
years. Likely more than 15. The only one's I've EVER had leak were
ones left dead for a long time. I've had more problems with the old
carbon-zinc (manganese dioxide) type leaking and swelling - and I
haven't used many of them in the last TWENTY or more years.


You must be very lucky.Buy a lottery ticket.

I've had Duracells,Everready,Fuji Novel,the HF "Thunderbolt" brand,all
leak. In remotes,flashlights,thermostat.

most of the Thunderbolt cells leaked before I ever got to use them,leaked
right in the package.
and the last batch of Fuji Novels leaked a lot,too,with an exp date of 12-
2014.

I'm trying RayoVac now,and using NiMH where possible.
Must admit, I seldom buy the ultra-cheap batteries. Even then, I've
only had them dead out of the box, not leaking.

Chateau is a common dollar-store brand up here and they are useless.

wrote in
:

On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:02:04 -0500, Jim Yanik
wrote:

wrote in
m:

On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:35:37 -0500, Jim Yanik
wrote:


it's wise to check the batteries every 6 months or so,because
alkalines LEAK and the device's contacts get eaten away.

some items,you might not be able to remove the leaky cells if you
let it go too long.As far as replacement by the battery
manufacturer,that doesn't help if the item is no longer
available,like for my Pioneer CD player.
I have not had an alkaline battery leak in anything I own in over
10
years. Likely more than 15. The only one's I've EVER had leak were
ones left dead for a long time. I've had more problems with the old
carbon-zinc (manganese dioxide) type leaking and swelling - and I
haven't used many of them in the last TWENTY or more years.


You must be very lucky.Buy a lottery ticket.

I've had Duracells,Everready,Fuji Novel,the HF "Thunderbolt" brand,all
leak. In remotes,flashlights,thermostat.

most of the Thunderbolt cells leaked before I ever got to use
them,leaked right in the package.
and the last batch of Fuji Novels leaked a lot,too,with an exp date of
12- 2014.

I'm trying RayoVac now,and using NiMH where possible.
Must admit, I seldom buy the ultra-cheap batteries. Even then, I've
only had them dead out of the box, not leaking.

Chateau is a common dollar-store brand up here and they are useless.


Duracells are hardly "ultracheap".
I've used Fuji Novel for many years with a great record,but the last batch
of AA(24 pack,12/2014exp.) has been leaky. I have a camping lantern with
Fuji D cells that's been fine since 2007.

Big Lots sells the Fuji Novels.

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On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:01:34 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
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I've had alkaline batteries leak. Due to old age, or due to being
recharged. I also had a whole 24 pack of Harbor Freight AA cells leak,
one time. They exchanged them, no questions.
Were the harbour frights alkaline or Manganese Dioxide/ Zinc carbon?

Also, alkalines are NOT RECHARGEABLE, so if you recharge them, all
bets are off.


the HF Thunderbolts are alkalines.
I don't recharge non-rechargeables,never have.

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Actually, they DO MAKE chargers for recharging primary use ALKALINES.
I own three of such chargers. If they are run TOO LOW before charging,
they might LEAK. Many of the recharged cells are JUST FINE.

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Also, alkalines are NOT RECHARGEABLE, so if you recharge them, all
bets are off.

The Dollar Tree near me, used to have packs of four carbon zinc AA
cells, or two alkaline AA cells. The ..... were the better
bargain.....

What's your guess?

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Must admit, I seldom buy the ultra-cheap batteries. Even then, I've
only had them dead out of the box, not leaking.

Chateau is a common dollar-store brand up here and they are useless.

I've had leaky "new in the box" thunderbolts. Problem is, those
Thunderbolt Magnums really make me feel invincible. I've had to buy
lower voltage Thuderbolt Specials lately.

You should try recharging alkalines. Many of them take a charge, and
continue to be useful.

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the HF Thunderbolts are alkalines.
I don't recharge non-rechargeables,never have.

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On 10/12/2010 5:03 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
I've had leaky "new in the box" thunderbolts. Problem is, those
Thunderbolt Magnums really make me feel invincible. I've had to buy
lower voltage Thuderbolt Specials lately.

You should try recharging alkalines. Many of them take a charge, and
continue to be useful.

I recall when even Radio Shack offered chargers for alkalines and
carbon-zinc batteries. They did often boost them enough to be useful for
a while longer, though I did have one battery explode in the charger and
make a mess.

When I was a little guy, Dad got a charger for flashlight batteries.
That was before alkalines came on the market. Didn't do a lot, but it
was a good idea.

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I recall when even Radio Shack offered chargers for alkalines and
carbon-zinc batteries. They did often boost them enough to be useful
for
a while longer, though I did have one battery explode in the charger
and
make a mess.

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On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:02:04 -0500, Jim Yanik
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:35:37 -0500, Jim Yanik
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it's wise to check the batteries every 6 months or so,because
alkalines LEAK and the device's contacts get eaten away.

some items,you might not be able to remove the leaky cells if you
let it go too long.As far as replacement by the battery
manufacturer,that doesn't help if the item is no longer
available,like for my Pioneer CD player.
I have not had an alkaline battery leak in anything I own in over
10
years. Likely more than 15. The only one's I've EVER had leak were
ones left dead for a long time. I've had more problems with the old
carbon-zinc (manganese dioxide) type leaking and swelling - and I
haven't used many of them in the last TWENTY or more years.


You must be very lucky.Buy a lottery ticket.

I've had Duracells,Everready,Fuji Novel,the HF "Thunderbolt" brand,all
leak. In remotes,flashlights,thermostat.

most of the Thunderbolt cells leaked before I ever got to use
them,leaked right in the package.
and the last batch of Fuji Novels leaked a lot,too,with an exp date of
12- 2014.

I'm trying RayoVac now,and using NiMH where possible.
Must admit, I seldom buy the ultra-cheap batteries. Even then, I've
only had them dead out of the box, not leaking.

Chateau is a common dollar-store brand up here and they are useless.


Duracells are hardly "ultracheap".
I've used Fuji Novel for many years with a great record,but the last batch
of AA(24 pack,12/2014exp.) has been leaky. I have a camping lantern with
Fuji D cells that's been fine since 2007.

Big Lots sells the Fuji Novels.
There are Duracells, and there are Duracells. They are made in many
different countries. I've seen them, I believe, from Chile, China,
India, Belgium Britain,Canada, Mexico, and USA. There are also
different grades of Duracell - including the procell.
Since Proctor and Gambel bought the company I'm not sure the quality
has improved. The price sure has not dropped!!

Also, storage conditions (temperature in particular) have a large
effect on battery life. I don't keep much battery powered stuff in
extreme heat or cold, which may help.,

On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:59:20 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

Actually, they DO MAKE chargers for recharging primary use ALKALINES.
I own three of such chargers. If they are run TOO LOW before charging,
they might LEAK. Many of the recharged cells are JUST FINE.
Like I said - recharge them and all bets are off. Officially they
are not a rechargeable cell. (there was one brand on the market that
claimed to be rechargeable - after a fashion - but they never did well
- can't remember the brand offhand.

Rayovac made a rechargable alkaline. I tried them in FRS walkie
talkies, but they promptly gave the low battery chirp. High capacity
NiMH would have worked better in walkie talkies.

I've recently gotten some Powergenix rechargable batteries. Of course,
being higher voltage, they have their own type of charger. Been using
them in my digital camera, where they work very successfully.

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On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:59:20 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

Actually, they DO MAKE chargers for recharging primary use ALKALINES.
I own three of such chargers. If they are run TOO LOW before
charging,
they might LEAK. Many of the recharged cells are JUST FINE.

Like I said - recharge them and all bets are off. Officially they
are not a rechargeable cell. (there was one brand on the market that
claimed to be rechargeable - after a fashion - but they never did well
- can't remember the brand offhand.