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Why cant I find any incandescent outdoor flood bulbs in the stores
anymore. I even went to some of the big stores, like Home Deport,
Menards, and Walmart. All they got are these crappy and expensive
Halogen bulbs. The old incadescent bulbs were $1.50 or less, while
these halogen bulbs are $6 or less per bulb. And they dont last any
longer despite that claim, in fact I think they have a shorter life.

Were they banned, or why cant I find them anymore?

And if the reason they are no longer sold is to save energy, where's
the savings? Lets say that I leave the light on for 2 hours every
evening. The 90W bulb (equal to a 100W incan) saves 20W per day.
That's 600W per month or 7200W per year. At 12cents per kilowatt
hour, that means I'll save $0.86 cents a year. That's after spending
$4.50 more than the cost of an incandescent bulb, which will likely
need to be replaced at the end of a year's usage. This is no savings
whatsoever, it's actually costs me $3.64 MORE per year. On top of
that, I dont think these 90W halogens give as much light as the 100W
incandescents did.

Is this just another scam to suck more money out of people? Sure
seems to be the case.

They have decided in their infinite wisdom and illuminati counselors that
incandescent light is so bad for you that you can not even perceive how bad
it is given your level of stupidity. That is best left to governmental
agencies and hacks who have never actually had a job, made a light bulb, or
worked anywhere by the hour.

Don't you feel safe, going down to the Borg stores and not finding merely
"light bulbs" like we used to use, but now have to buy very expensive
halogens, fluorescent, and the bulb du jour?

I don't know about you, but I certainly sleep a lot better at night, albeit
a little poorer.

We are adjusting to moonlight, starlight, and the decomposition of carbon
compounds by simple fire to substitute for the lack of illumination.

And, it's actually not that bad.

God, I just feel so ..................... SAFE!

Thank you, Washington, D.C.

Steve

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In article , Steve B wrote:

wrote in message
.. .
Why cant I find any incandescent outdoor flood bulbs in the stores
anymore. I even went to some of the big stores, like Home Deport,
Menards, and Walmart. All they got are these crappy and expensive
Halogen bulbs. The old incadescent bulbs were $1.50 or less, while
these halogen bulbs are $6 or less per bulb. And they dont last any
longer despite that claim, in fact I think they have a shorter life.

Were they banned, or why cant I find them anymore?

And if the reason they are no longer sold is to save energy, where's
the savings? Lets say that I leave the light on for 2 hours every
evening. The 90W bulb (equal to a 100W incan) saves 20W per day.
That's 600W per month or 7200W per year. At 12cents per kilowatt
hour, that means I'll save $0.86 cents a year. That's after spending
$4.50 more than the cost of an incandescent bulb, which will likely
need to be replaced at the end of a year's usage. This is no savings
whatsoever, it's actually costs me $3.64 MORE per year. On top of
that, I dont think these 90W halogens give as much light as the 100W
incandescents did.

Is this just another scam to suck more money out of people? Sure
seems to be the case.

They have decided in their infinite wisdom and illuminati counselors that
incandescent light is so bad for you that you can not even perceive how bad
it is given your level of stupidity. That is best left to governmental
agencies and hacks who have never actually had a job, made a light bulb, or
worked anywhere by the hour.

Don't you feel safe, going down to the Borg stores and not finding merely
"light bulbs" like we used to use, but now have to buy very expensive
halogens, fluorescent, and the bulb du jour?

Are you that out of touch with reality?

Are you a troll?

Have you not recently been at Home Depot or Lowes, or supermarkets or
hardware stores, or Target, where "regular incandescents" are on the
shelves aplenty?

For that matter, the first part of USA's incandescent lamp ban kicks in
at the beginning of 2012. It progresses to a wider incandescent lamp ban
beginning at the start of 2014.

The 2012-2014 "incandescent ban" has many exceptions, including every
reflectorized floodlamp and every reflectorized spotlamp that I ever heard
of. Exempt from this ban are also appliance bulbs along with "rough
service" ones, left-hand-screw base ones, ones with non-screw base
including bipin and bayonet, ones with base size other than E26/E27
"medium screw base", ones having globular, tubular or flame shape, 3-way
bulbs, most 120V ones over 150 watts and some 150 watt ones, most 25 watts
or less, ones designed for voltage outside the range of 110-130 volts, and
ones that meet/exceed an energy efficiency standard that a small number of
incandescents available at Home Depot already do (Philips Halogena "Energy
Saver" 40 and 70 watt, roughly producing the light of 60 and 100 watt
"ordinary incandescents" respectively).

There are a few other exemptions. I list all of them with credit at:

http://members.misty.com/don/incban.html

AKA: www.misty.com/~don/incban.html

SNIP more appearing to me somewhat along lines of what I responded to
--
- Don Klipstein )

On Sep 13, 8:23*pm, (Don Klipstein) wrote:
In article , Steve B wrote:

wrote in message
.. .
Why cant I find any incandescent outdoor flood bulbs in the stores
anymore. *I even went to some of the big stores, like Home Deport,
Menards, and Walmart. *All they got are these crappy and expensive
Halogen bulbs. *The old incadescent bulbs were $1.50 or less, while
these halogen bulbs are $6 or less per bulb. *And they dont last any
longer despite that claim, in fact I think they have a shorter life.

Were they banned, or why cant I find them anymore?

And if the reason they are no longer sold is to save energy, where's
the savings? *Lets say that I leave the light on for 2 hours every
evening. *The 90W bulb (equal to a 100W incan) saves 20W per day.
That's 600W per month or 7200W per year. *At 12cents per kilowatt
hour, that means I'll save $0.86 cents a year. *That's after spending
$4.50 more than the cost of an incandescent bulb, which will likely
need to be replaced at the end of a year's usage. *This is no savings
whatsoever, it's actually costs me $3.64 MORE per year. *On top of
that, I dont think these 90W halogens give as much light as the 100W
incandescents did.

Is this just another scam to suck more money out of people? *Sure
seems to be the case.

They have decided in their infinite wisdom and illuminati counselors that
incandescent light is so bad for you that you can not even perceive how bad
it is given your level of stupidity. *That is best left to governmental
agencies and hacks who have never actually had a job, made a light bulb, or
worked anywhere by the hour.

Don't you feel safe, going down to the Borg stores and not finding merely
"light bulbs" like we used to use, but now have to buy very expensive
halogens, fluorescent, and the bulb du jour?

* Are you that out of touch with reality?

* Are you a troll?

* Have you not recently been at Home Depot or Lowes, or supermarkets or
hardware stores, or Target, where "regular incandescents" are on the
shelves aplenty?

* For that matter, the first part of USA's incandescent lamp ban kicks in
at the beginning of 2012. *It progresses to a wider incandescent lamp ban
beginning at the start of 2014.

* The 2012-2014 "incandescent ban" has many exceptions, including every
reflectorized floodlamp and every reflectorized spotlamp that I ever heard
of. *Exempt from this ban are also appliance bulbs along with "rough
service" ones, left-hand-screw base ones, ones with non-screw base
including bipin and bayonet, ones with base size other than E26/E27
"medium screw base", ones having globular, tubular or flame shape, 3-way
bulbs, most 120V ones over 150 watts and some 150 watt ones, most 25 watts
or less, ones designed for voltage outside the range of 110-130 volts, and
ones that meet/exceed an energy efficiency standard that a small number of
incandescents available at Home Depot already do (Philips Halogena "Energy
Saver" 40 and 70 watt, roughly producing the light of 60 and 100 watt
"ordinary incandescents" respectively).

* There are a few other exemptions. *I list all of them with credit at:

http://members.misty.com/don/incban.html

AKA:www.misty.com/~don/incban.html

SNIP more appearing to me somewhat along lines of what I responded to
--
*- Don Klipstein )- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I think he is looking for non-halogen.

On Sep 13, 10:23*pm, (Don Klipstein) wrote:
In article , Steve B wrote:

wrote in message
.. .
Why cant I find any incandescent outdoor flood bulbs in the stores
anymore. *I even went to some of the big stores, like Home Deport,
Menards, and Walmart. *All they got are these crappy and expensive
Halogen bulbs. *The old incadescent bulbs were $1.50 or less, while
these halogen bulbs are $6 or less per bulb. *And they dont last any
longer despite that claim, in fact I think they have a shorter life.

Were they banned, or why cant I find them anymore?

And if the reason they are no longer sold is to save energy, where's
the savings? *Lets say that I leave the light on for 2 hours every
evening. *The 90W bulb (equal to a 100W incan) saves 20W per day.
That's 600W per month or 7200W per year. *At 12cents per kilowatt
hour, that means I'll save $0.86 cents a year. *That's after spending
$4.50 more than the cost of an incandescent bulb, which will likely
need to be replaced at the end of a year's usage. *This is no savings
whatsoever, it's actually costs me $3.64 MORE per year. *On top of
that, I dont think these 90W halogens give as much light as the 100W
incandescents did.

Is this just another scam to suck more money out of people? *Sure
seems to be the case.

They have decided in their infinite wisdom and illuminati counselors that
incandescent light is so bad for you that you can not even perceive how bad
it is given your level of stupidity. *That is best left to governmental
agencies and hacks who have never actually had a job, made a light bulb, or
worked anywhere by the hour.

Don't you feel safe, going down to the Borg stores and not finding merely
"light bulbs" like we used to use, but now have to buy very expensive
halogens, fluorescent, and the bulb du jour?

* Are you that out of touch with reality?

* Are you a troll?


A bit humor impaired, today, Don? Well, if it wasn't so sad, it would
have been funny.