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Can someone give me the short answer on using them as insecticides?
I tried the grits thing, and they either ate it or ignored it. The ants and hills are still there. |
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On Jul 11, 3:19*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
Can someone give me the short answer on using them as insecticides? I tried the grits thing, and they either ate it or ignored it. *The ants and hills are still there. Mix the boric acid with some sugar water, maple syrup or other sugary liquid, and put it on a cotton ball and stick that in their path. R |
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On 2010-07-11, Steve B wrote:
I tried the grits thing, and they either ate it or ignored it. The ants and hills are still there. I can't imagine boric acid doing much. Isn't that the stuff used in eye wash? Could there be a more wimpy acid? nb |
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On 2010-07-11, Steve B wrote: I tried the grits thing, and they either ate it or ignored it. The ants and hills are still there. I can't imagine boric acid doing much. Isn't that the stuff used in eye wash? Could there be a more wimpy acid? nb Google - boric acid insects -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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"Steve B" wrote
Can someone give me the short answer on using them as insecticides? I tried the grits thing, and they either ate it or ignored it. The ants and hills are still there. Ouch, tough crowd. It's working here. |
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 12:19:21 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote: Can someone give me the short answer on using them as insecticides? For insects the DE needs to be the food grade DE, not that used in pools systems. The difference: food grade DE is not processed using heat. It's just the way it was harvested. The jagged edges remain on the fossil. Pool DE is heated and that rounds the edges off the fossil. Rub each between you thumb and finger -- feel the difference. The sharp edges on the fossil is what causes havoc on the critters. I tried the grits thing, and they either ate it or ignored it. The ants and hills are still there. Were those instant grits? ( 87 Octane on each mound, followed shortly by a burning match ) |
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 15:50:15 -0400, "cshenk" wrote:
I tried the grits thing, and they either ate it or ignored it. The ants and hills are still there. Ouch, tough crowd. It's working here. So you don't use instant grits, I take it. |
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Keep in mind that different ants (depending on species and
the availability of other food sources) may be seeking "sugary" food but they may be after "fatty" food. In the latter case, something like peanut butter laced with boric acid may be more effective. I've heard it described as "sugar ants" vs. "grease ants". Same deal, I guess. Ya' gotta' use the right bait. -Zz |
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"Oren" wrote
"cshenk" wrote: I tried the grits thing, and they either ate it or ignored it. The ants and hills are still there. Ouch, tough crowd. It's working here. So you don't use instant grits, I take it. Nope, specifically said not to. |
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For carpenter ants, I put down liquid ant bait from
www.gardensalive.com in bottle caps, or tupperware lids. they bellied up to the bar, drank heartily, and didn't come back. This was maybe five or more years ago. the Orkin guy wanted $175 per treatment, and no guarantees. Orkin closed, and the place is now a daycare. I'm not sure I'd want to house kids in a building that used to have pesticides. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Steve B" wrote in message ... Can someone give me the short answer on using them as insecticides? I tried the grits thing, and they either ate it or ignored it. The ants and hills are still there. |
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On 7/11/2010 2:19 PM, Steve B wrote:
Can someone give me the short answer on using them as insecticides? I tried the grits thing, and they either ate it or ignored it. The ants and hills are still there. Grits only kills Yankee ants, if they're Southern ants, you're screwed. TDD |
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"Oren" wrote in message news On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 15:50:15 -0400, "cshenk" wrote: I tried the grits thing, and they either ate it or ignored it. The ants and hills are still there. Ouch, tough crowd. It's working here. So you don't use instant grits, I take it. I got that part right. I used the old fashioned grits. Steve visit my blog at http://cabgbypasssurgery.com |
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On Jul 11, 3:44*pm, (Malcolm Hoar) wrote:
In article , RicodJour wrote: On Jul 11, 3:19=A0pm, "Steve B" wrote: Can someone give me the short answer on using them as insecticides? I tried the grits thing, and they either ate it or ignored it. =A0The ant= s and hills are still there. Mix the boric acid with some sugar water, maple syrup or other sugary liquid, and put it on a cotton ball and stick that in their path. The proportions of boric acid and sugar are rather important. At least, it seems that way with the ants around here. Too much borac acid and the ants won't take it. Too little and it ain't gonna kill the colony. The Terro liquid ant baits work better than anything else I have been able to make or buy commerically. My local ants love that stuff and although it may take a few days, it does wipe out the nest. Since the OP didn't ask, I didn't mention it, but I second the Terro recommendation. I had a friend that was trying to deal with a nasty carpenter ant infestation and was using those small, useless plastic white-flower-looking ant baits. The ants totally ignored the things and the traps had been in place for weeks with no effect. I recommended the Terro traps and offered to help. The Borg didn't carry the Terro liquid, but a local hardware store did. One day later the traps were full of carpenter ants. Two days later there were even more ants feasting. Third day - no ants at all. As another person posted, the boric acid is good for spritzing dry into crevices and along sill plates and such. R |
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"Steve B" wrote
"Oren" wrote So you don't use instant grits, I take it. I got that part right. I used the old fashioned grits. Must be them pesky yankee ants who don't do grits. Sorry Steve! I've not had this fail in 20 years. |
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Steve B wrote:
Can someone give me the short answer on using them as insecticides? I tried the grits thing, and they either ate it or ignored it. The ants and hills are still there. There's effective and there's effective. You can also kill the hive by whacking the individual ants with a small hammer. Me, I'd buy a small quantity of DDT from overseas. |
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:43:47 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote: "Oren" wrote in message news On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 15:50:15 -0400, "cshenk" wrote: I tried the grits thing, and they either ate it or ignored it. The ants and hills are still there. Ouch, tough crowd. It's working here. So you don't use instant grits, I take it. I got that part right. I used the old fashioned grits. Rebel ants, down south are particular. They prefer _Dixie Lilly_, White Lilly (?). Any grit made in Alabama, is a _goood_ grit. |
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"cshenk" wrote in message ... "Steve B" wrote "Oren" wrote So you don't use instant grits, I take it. I got that part right. I used the old fashioned grits. Must be them pesky yankee ants who don't do grits. Sorry Steve! I've not had this fail in 20 years. These are Utah ants, and I ain't going there on any comments ................. ;-) Steve visit my blog at http://cabgbypasssurgery.com |
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"Oren" wrote in message news On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:43:47 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: "Oren" wrote in message news On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 15:50:15 -0400, "cshenk" wrote: I tried the grits thing, and they either ate it or ignored it. The ants and hills are still there. Ouch, tough crowd. It's working here. So you don't use instant grits, I take it. I got that part right. I used the old fashioned grits. Rebel ants, down south are particular. They prefer _Dixie Lilly_, White Lilly (?). Any grit made in Alabama, is a _goood_ grit. Either that, or Utah ants don't know what grits are. Like the regular Utards. You say "Grits" to them and they say, "Whuh?" Steve visit my blog at http://cabgbypasssurgery.com watch for the book |
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"HeyBub" wrote in message news Steve B wrote: Can someone give me the short answer on using them as insecticides? I tried the grits thing, and they either ate it or ignored it. The ants and hills are still there. There's effective and there's effective. You can also kill the hive by whacking the individual ants with a small hammer. Me, I'd buy a small quantity of DDT from overseas. Thank you for sharing ................. |
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"Steve B" wrote
"Oren" wrote I tried the grits thing, and they either ate it or ignored it. The ants and hills are still there. Ouch, tough crowd. It's working here. I used the old fashioned grits. Rebel ants, down south are particular. They prefer _Dixie Lilly_, White Lilly (?). Any grit made in Alabama, is a _goood_ grit. Either that, or Utah ants don't know what grits are. Like the regular Utards. You say "Grits" to them and they say, "Whuh?" Grin, Either way, it's the main method I've used but then I'm trying to keep the back yard safe for the dog as well. If still working from an organic aspect, Boric Acid is pretty safe. You could mix some with sugar water and soak the hills? |
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On Jul 12, 6:19*am, "cshenk" wrote:
"Steve B" wrote "Oren" wrote I tried the grits thing, and they either ate it or ignored it. *The ants and hills are still there. Ouch, tough crowd. *It's working here. *I used the old fashioned grits. Rebel ants, down south *are *particular. They prefer _Dixie Lilly_, White Lilly (?). Any grit made in Alabama, is a _goood_ grit. Either that, or Utah ants don't know what grits are. *Like the regular Utards. *You say "Grits" to them and they say, "Whuh?" Grin, Either way, it's the main method I've used but then I'm trying to keep the back yard safe for the dog as well. *If still working from an organic aspect, Boric Acid is pretty safe. *You could mix some with sugar water and soak the hills? Just leave it granular and let the workerss carry the stuff back to the queen. |
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