~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz0rM46RZps

On 6/20/2010 2:41 AM, harry wrote:
~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz0rM46RZps

The Commiecrat Liberals always screamed that George Bush was going to
be a dictator and refuse to leave The White House, take over everything,
etc, etc. The reason I was against all of the anti-terrorism measures
installed by the last administration was the simple fact that Democrats
would use them against the citizenry. Especially any group of citizens
who opposed them. I hope I have some change left when our first and last
Affirmative Action President finishes his one and only term. I
shudder at the thought of how long it's going to take to repair the
damage those Democrat morons have done to my country.

TDD

"harry" wrote in message
...
~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz0rM46RZps


Interesting that people are up in arms against Obama for this. Pretty much
evidence that they don't read and comprehend. The law was proposed by Joe
Lieberman, a usually conservative Democrat. Much as I dislike Obama, I
don't think he had anything to do with this.

Another bill like this was proposed and knocked down quickly as I suspect
this one will be also.

On 6/20/2010 7:53 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

"harry" wrote in message
...
~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz0rM46RZps



Interesting that people are up in arms against Obama for this. Pretty
much evidence that they don't read and comprehend. The law was proposed
by Joe Lieberman, a usually conservative Democrat. Much as I dislike
Obama, I don't think he had anything to do with this.

Another bill like this was proposed and knocked down quickly as I
suspect this one will be also.

Lieberman is not conservative but very liberal. Where he differs from
the Democrats is his strong support of Israel and our military.
Unlike Democrats, he's a man of principal.

On Jun 20, 8:01*am, Frank wrote:
On 6/20/2010 7:53 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:







"harry" wrote in message
....
~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...Obama-given-ri....

Interesting that people are up in arms against Obama for this. Pretty
much evidence that they don't read and comprehend. The law was proposed
by Joe Lieberman, a usually conservative Democrat. Much as I dislike
Obama, I don't think he had anything to do with this.

Another bill like this was proposed and knocked down quickly as I
suspect this one will be also.

Lieberman is not conservative but very liberal. *Where he differs from
the Democrats is his strong support of Israel and our military.
Unlike Democrats, he's a man of principal.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Before everyone gets their shorts up in a knot over this proposed law,
it would be a good idea to think about what the law would be intended
to do instead of blindly taking the abuse of power, worse case
scenario.

Let's say that a terrorist like the recent Times Square bomber is
captured and during interrogation, discloses a plan by other
terrorists to create a massive cyber attack on the US internet system
tomorrow. Searching his computers backs up his claim, but all that
can be determined is that they are planning on using internet service
provider X to do it. Would you not want the president to be able to
tell provider X to temporarily suspend it's service until measures
could be taken to prevent the attack from working? You could argue
that any reasonable service provider would voluntarily take such
action once contacted. However, doing so would potentially open them
to all sorts of legal liability from ****ed off customers, especially
if it later turned out that the attack wasn't real and the
administration starts back-pedalling on what they actually asked the
ISP to do. If the president orders them to do it, then you have
assurance that not only will they comply, but they will be relieved of
liability.

And what kind of illegitimate stunt using this law do you think a
president could pull without being impeached?

On 6/20/2010 8:44 AM, wrote:
On Jun 20, 8:01 am, wrote:
On 6/20/2010 7:53 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:







wrote in message
...
~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...Obama-given-ri...

Interesting that people are up in arms against Obama for this. Pretty
much evidence that they don't read and comprehend. The law was proposed
by Joe Lieberman, a usually conservative Democrat. Much as I dislike
Obama, I don't think he had anything to do with this.

Another bill like this was proposed and knocked down quickly as I
suspect this one will be also.

Lieberman is not conservative but very liberal. Where he differs from
the Democrats is his strong support of Israel and our military.
Unlike Democrats, he's a man of principal.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Before everyone gets their shorts up in a knot over this proposed law,
it would be a good idea to think about what the law would be intended
to do instead of blindly taking the abuse of power, worse case
scenario.

Let's say that a terrorist like the recent Times Square bomber is
captured and during interrogation, discloses a plan by other
terrorists to create a massive cyber attack on the US internet system
tomorrow. Searching his computers backs up his claim, but all that
can be determined is that they are planning on using internet service
provider X to do it. Would you not want the president to be able to
tell provider X to temporarily suspend it's service until measures
could be taken to prevent the attack from working? You could argue
that any reasonable service provider would voluntarily take such
action once contacted. However, doing so would potentially open them
to all sorts of legal liability from ****ed off customers, especially
if it later turned out that the attack wasn't real and the
administration starts back-pedalling on what they actually asked the
ISP to do. If the president orders them to do it, then you have
assurance that not only will they comply, but they will be relieved of
liability.

And what kind of illegitimate stunt using this law do you think a
president could pull without being impeached?

OH! Like we need a law so The President can order an oil well to shut
down and stop leaking? 8-)

TDD

On Jun 20, 2:44*pm, wrote:
On Jun 20, 8:01*am, Frank wrote:





On 6/20/2010 7:53 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

"harry" wrote in message
....
~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...Obama-given-ri....

Interesting that people are up in arms against Obama for this. Pretty
much evidence that they don't read and comprehend. The law was proposed
by Joe Lieberman, a usually conservative Democrat. Much as I dislike
Obama, I don't think he had anything to do with this.

Another bill like this was proposed and knocked down quickly as I
suspect this one will be also.

Lieberman is not conservative but very liberal. *Where he differs from
the Democrats is his strong support of Israel and our military.
Unlike Democrats, he's a man of principal.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Before everyone gets their shorts up in a knot over this proposed law,
it would be a good idea to think about what the law would be intended
to do instead of blindly taking the abuse of power, worse case
scenario.

Let's say that a terrorist like the recent Times Square bomber is
captured and during interrogation, discloses a plan by other
terrorists to create a massive cyber attack on the US internet system
tomorrow. * Searching his computers backs up his claim, but all that
can be determined is that they are planning on using internet service
provider X to do it. * Would you not want the president to be able to
tell provider X to temporarily suspend it's service until measures
could be taken to prevent the attack from working? * You could argue
that any reasonable service provider would voluntarily take such
action once contacted. *However, doing so would potentially open them
to all sorts of legal liability from ****ed off customers, especially
if it later turned out that the attack wasn't real and the
administration starts back-pedalling on what they actually asked the
ISP to do. *If the president orders them to do it, then you have
assurance that not only will they comply, but they will be relieved of
liability.

And what kind of illegitimate stunt using this law do you think a
president could pull without being impeached?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

All sounds pretty Stalinist to me.

On Jun 20, 6:11*am, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
On 6/20/2010 2:41 AM, harry wrote:

~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...Obama-given-ri...

The Commiecrat Liberals always screamed that George Bush was going to
be a dictator and refuse to leave The White House, take over everything,
etc, etc. The reason I was against all of the anti-terrorism measures
installed by the last administration was the simple fact that Democrats
would use them against the citizenry. Especially any group of citizens
who opposed them. I hope I have some change left when our first and last
Affirmative Action President finishes his one and only term. I
shudder at the thought of how long it's going to take to repair the
damage those Democrat morons have done to my country.

TDD

LOL, so you trust the Bushies to take our rights away but not Dems.
But Dems are the morons?

On Jun 20, 10:06*am, The Daring Dufas the-daring-
wrote:
On 6/20/2010 8:44 AM, wrote:





On Jun 20, 8:01 am, *wrote:
On 6/20/2010 7:53 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

*wrote in message
....
~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...Obama-given-ri....

Interesting that people are up in arms against Obama for this. Pretty
much evidence that they don't read and comprehend. The law was proposed
by Joe Lieberman, a usually conservative Democrat. Much as I dislike
Obama, I don't think he had anything to do with this.

Another bill like this was proposed and knocked down quickly as I
suspect this one will be also.

Lieberman is not conservative but very liberal. *Where he differs from
the Democrats is his strong support of Israel and our military.
Unlike Democrats, he's a man of principal.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Before everyone gets their shorts up in a knot over this proposed law,
it would be a good idea to think about what the law would be intended
to do instead of blindly taking the abuse of power, worse case
scenario.

Let's say that a terrorist like the recent Times Square bomber is
captured and during interrogation, discloses a plan by other
terrorists to create a massive cyber attack on the US internet system
tomorrow. * Searching his computers backs up his claim, but all that
can be determined is that they are planning on using internet service
provider X to do it. * Would you not want the president to be able to
tell provider X to temporarily suspend it's service until measures
could be taken to prevent the attack from working? * You could argue
that any reasonable service provider would voluntarily take such
action once contacted. *However, doing so would potentially open them
to all sorts of legal liability from ****ed off customers, especially
if it later turned out that the attack wasn't real and the
administration starts back-pedalling on what they actually asked the
ISP to do. *If the president orders them to do it, then you have
assurance that not only will they comply, but they will be relieved of
liability.

And what kind of illegitimate stunt using this law do you think a
president could pull without being impeached?

OH! Like we need a law so The President can order an oil well to shut
down and stop leaking? 8-)

TDD- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, at least the leaders around the Gulf Coast are finally taking it
upon themselves to shut down the leak. They are issuing a day of
prayer to stop the leak. They are going over BP and Obama's head and
asking for Divine Intervention. So we can expect that the oil leak
will be shut down by midnight tonight.

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...
On 6/20/2010 8:44 AM, wrote:
On Jun 20, 8:01 am, wrote:
On 6/20/2010 7:53 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:







wrote in message
...
~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...Obama-given-ri...

Interesting that people are up in arms against Obama for this. Pretty
much evidence that they don't read and comprehend. The law was
proposed
by Joe Lieberman, a usually conservative Democrat. Much as I dislike
Obama, I don't think he had anything to do with this.

Another bill like this was proposed and knocked down quickly as I
suspect this one will be also.

Lieberman is not conservative but very liberal. Where he differs from
the Democrats is his strong support of Israel and our military.
Unlike Democrats, he's a man of principal.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Before everyone gets their shorts up in a knot over this proposed law,
it would be a good idea to think about what the law would be intended
to do instead of blindly taking the abuse of power, worse case
scenario.

Let's say that a terrorist like the recent Times Square bomber is
captured and during interrogation, discloses a plan by other
terrorists to create a massive cyber attack on the US internet system
tomorrow. Searching his computers backs up his claim, but all that
can be determined is that they are planning on using internet service
provider X to do it. Would you not want the president to be able to
tell provider X to temporarily suspend it's service until measures
could be taken to prevent the attack from working? You could argue
that any reasonable service provider would voluntarily take such
action once contacted. However, doing so would potentially open them
to all sorts of legal liability from ****ed off customers, especially
if it later turned out that the attack wasn't real and the
administration starts back-pedalling on what they actually asked the
ISP to do. If the president orders them to do it, then you have
assurance that not only will they comply, but they will be relieved of
liability.

And what kind of illegitimate stunt using this law do you think a
president could pull without being impeached?

OH! Like we need a law so The President can order an oil well to shut
down and stop leaking? 8-)

TDD

Interesting. You don't want government to intervene with capitalism, now
you want the government to protect you from it.

harry wrote:
~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz0rM46RZps

Well, we finally got the "change" that was promised.

We can call Obama incompetent without being dubbed a racist.

On 6/20/10 11:12 AM, HeyBub wrote:
harry wrote:
~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz0rM46RZps

Well, we finally got the "change" that was promised.

We can call Obama incompetent without being dubbed a racist.


After seeing your recent estimate of the amount of water in a house, I
would call you the incompetent one. Probably not competent enough to be
judging Obama.

Frank wrote in
:

On 6/20/2010 7:53 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

"harry" wrote in message

...
~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...Obama-given-ri
ght-shut-internet-kill-switch.html#ixzz0rM46RZps



Interesting that people are up in arms against Obama for this. Pretty
much evidence that they don't read and comprehend. The law was
proposed by Joe Lieberman, a usually conservative Democrat. Much as I
dislike Obama, I don't think he had anything to do with this.

Another bill like this was proposed and knocked down quickly as I
suspect this one will be also.

Lieberman is not conservative but very liberal. Where he differs from
the Democrats is his strong support of Israel and our military.
Unlike Democrats, he's a man of principal.


Lieberman is still a "democrat",just not as radical as the rest of them.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

On 6/20/2010 9:48 AM, hibb wrote:
On Jun 20, 6:11 am, The Daring
wrote:
On 6/20/2010 2:41 AM, harry wrote:

~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...Obama-given-ri...

The Commiecrat Liberals always screamed that George Bush was going to
be a dictator and refuse to leave The White House, take over everything,
etc, etc. The reason I was against all of the anti-terrorism measures
installed by the last administration was the simple fact that Democrats
would use them against the citizenry. Especially any group of citizens
who opposed them. I hope I have some change left when our first and last
Affirmative Action President finishes his one and only term. I
shudder at the thought of how long it's going to take to repair the
damage those Democrat morons have done to my country.

TDD

LOL, so you trust the Bushies to take our rights away but not Dems.
But Dems are the morons?


I'm not a Republican, Republicans disgust me but Democrats are special,
they horrify me. Republicans are evil, Democrats are wicked, I suppose
your preference depends on which end of your body you want some law
shoved into.

TDD

On 6/20/2010 9:54 AM, hibb wrote:
On Jun 20, 10:06 am, The Daring Dufasthe-daring-
wrote:
On 6/20/2010 8:44 AM, wrote:





On Jun 20, 8:01 am, wrote:
On 6/20/2010 7:53 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

wrote in message
...
~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...Obama-given-ri...

Interesting that people are up in arms against Obama for this. Pretty
much evidence that they don't read and comprehend. The law was proposed
by Joe Lieberman, a usually conservative Democrat. Much as I dislike
Obama, I don't think he had anything to do with this.

Another bill like this was proposed and knocked down quickly as I
suspect this one will be also.

Lieberman is not conservative but very liberal. Where he differs from
the Democrats is his strong support of Israel and our military.
Unlike Democrats, he's a man of principal.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Before everyone gets their shorts up in a knot over this proposed law,
it would be a good idea to think about what the law would be intended
to do instead of blindly taking the abuse of power, worse case
scenario.

Let's say that a terrorist like the recent Times Square bomber is
captured and during interrogation, discloses a plan by other
terrorists to create a massive cyber attack on the US internet system
tomorrow. Searching his computers backs up his claim, but all that
can be determined is that they are planning on using internet service
provider X to do it. Would you not want the president to be able to
tell provider X to temporarily suspend it's service until measures
could be taken to prevent the attack from working? You could argue
that any reasonable service provider would voluntarily take such
action once contacted. However, doing so would potentially open them
to all sorts of legal liability from ****ed off customers, especially
if it later turned out that the attack wasn't real and the
administration starts back-pedalling on what they actually asked the
ISP to do. If the president orders them to do it, then you have
assurance that not only will they comply, but they will be relieved of
liability.

And what kind of illegitimate stunt using this law do you think a
president could pull without being impeached?

OH! Like we need a law so The President can order an oil well to shut
down and stop leaking? 8-)

TDD- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, at least the leaders around the Gulf Coast are finally taking it
upon themselves to shut down the leak. They are issuing a day of
prayer to stop the leak. They are going over BP and Obama's head and
asking for Divine Intervention. So we can expect that the oil leak
will be shut down by midnight tonight.


But Obama is the Messiah, ask any Liberal Commiecrat. We should all
pray to BeeHO to deliver us from peril.

TDD

John Karl wrote:
On 6/20/10 11:12 AM, HeyBub wrote:
harry wrote:
~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz0rM46RZps

Well, we finally got the "change" that was promised.

We can call Obama incompetent without being dubbed a racist.


After seeing your recent estimate of the amount of water in a house, I
would call you the incompetent one. Probably not competent enough to
be judging Obama.

I know maths is hard, but if you have some disagreement, I'd be glad to
review your alternative calculations.

On 6/20/2010 10:55 AM, Minnie wrote:
"The Daring wrote in message
...
On 6/20/2010 8:44 AM, wrote:
On Jun 20, 8:01 am, wrote:
On 6/20/2010 7:53 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:







wrote in message
...
~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...Obama-given-ri...

Interesting that people are up in arms against Obama for this. Pretty
much evidence that they don't read and comprehend. The law was
proposed
by Joe Lieberman, a usually conservative Democrat. Much as I dislike
Obama, I don't think he had anything to do with this.

Another bill like this was proposed and knocked down quickly as I
suspect this one will be also.

Lieberman is not conservative but very liberal. Where he differs from
the Democrats is his strong support of Israel and our military.
Unlike Democrats, he's a man of principal.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Before everyone gets their shorts up in a knot over this proposed law,
it would be a good idea to think about what the law would be intended
to do instead of blindly taking the abuse of power, worse case
scenario.

Let's say that a terrorist like the recent Times Square bomber is
captured and during interrogation, discloses a plan by other
terrorists to create a massive cyber attack on the US internet system
tomorrow. Searching his computers backs up his claim, but all that
can be determined is that they are planning on using internet service
provider X to do it. Would you not want the president to be able to
tell provider X to temporarily suspend it's service until measures
could be taken to prevent the attack from working? You could argue
that any reasonable service provider would voluntarily take such
action once contacted. However, doing so would potentially open them
to all sorts of legal liability from ****ed off customers, especially
if it later turned out that the attack wasn't real and the
administration starts back-pedalling on what they actually asked the
ISP to do. If the president orders them to do it, then you have
assurance that not only will they comply, but they will be relieved of
liability.

And what kind of illegitimate stunt using this law do you think a
president could pull without being impeached?

OH! Like we need a law so The President can order an oil well to shut
down and stop leaking? 8-)

TDD

Interesting. You don't want government to intervene with capitalism, now
you want the government to protect you from it.


Does the word "facetious" mean anything to you? God save me from Liberal
Commiecrat Freaks! A four year old I can communicate with but an adult
Liberal Commiecrat Freak understands very little of what's rational.

TDD

The Daring Dufas wrote in news:hvlssp$hn3
:

I'm not a Republican, Republicans disgust me but Democrats are special,
they horrify me. Republicans are evil, Democrats are wicked

I don't think either are wicked or evil. But they are nearly all greedy.
Both for power and money. Both you and I are looking for who is the least
evil and wicked. My ultra-rightist Republican friend always wants to vote
for Mickey Mouse, but I think that is just to get an argument going. Which
usually works.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

The Daring Dufas wrote in news:hvlt5f$ii1
:

But Obama is the Messiah, ask any Liberal Commiecrat. We should all
pray to BeeHO to deliver us from peril.


I'm atheist (mostly). To everyone his own, but fairness and benificence is
what I am looking for. In the context of fiscal prudence.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

On 6/20/10 3:29 PM, HeyBub wrote:
John Karl wrote:
On 6/20/10 11:12 AM, HeyBub wrote:
harry wrote:
~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz0rM46RZps

Well, we finally got the "change" that was promised.

We can call Obama incompetent without being dubbed a racist.


After seeing your recent estimate of the amount of water in a house, I
would call you the incompetent one. Probably not competent enough to
be judging Obama.

I know maths is hard, but if you have some disagreement, I'd be glad to
review your alternative calculations.


The problem arose when you assumed that a cup of water vapor was the
same as a cup of water.

harry wrote:
~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz0rM46RZps

That's Joe Lieberman, the least popular senator, with an approval rating
of 25%. Democratic voters defeated him in the primary in 2006. He
considers himself a Republican on foreign policy and defense. He calls
himself a Democrat because that's how he's registered as a voter.

I agree with Joe on this one. Some say the US should keep Mexican
trucks off US highways because of safety violations. Shouldn't the US
keep the British off the US internet because most of them seem to have
nothing better to do than launch trolling attacks? (see above)

On 6/20/2010 4:37 PM, Han wrote:
The Daring wrote in news:hvlssp$hn3
:

I'm not a Republican, Republicans disgust me but Democrats are special,
they horrify me. Republicans are evil, Democrats are wicked

I don't think either are wicked or evil. But they are nearly all greedy.
Both for power and money. Both you and I are looking for who is the least
evil and wicked. My ultra-rightist Republican friend always wants to vote
for Mickey Mouse, but I think that is just to get an argument going. Which
usually works.


My late father was a Southern Republican, one of many who make regular
Republicans look like sissies. When the Irish nuns at the Catholic
Parochial Gulag gave all the kids "Kennedy for President" bumper
stickers, me, not knowing any better stuck one on the bumper of Dad's
1951 Dodge. My father was an MP sergeant during WWII and I do believe
he got royalties from the military for curse words he invented. When
my father discovered the bumper sticker, he yelled all of those strange
words at me. I had no idea what he was saying, I just knew he was very
angry. Mom was a New York Democrat and of course I always got opposing
views. I wonder if that's why I don't much care for either party?

TDD

On 6/20/2010 4:40 PM, Han wrote:
The Daring wrote in news:hvlt5f$ii1
:

But Obama is the Messiah, ask any Liberal Commiecrat. We should all
pray to BeeHO to deliver us from peril.


I'm atheist (mostly). To everyone his own, but fairness and benificence is
what I am looking for. In the context of fiscal prudence.


The great God BeeHO is going to save us from carbon. I suppose he'll
work with Intel to transform us all into silicon based life forms.

TDD

On Jun 20, 4:20*pm, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
On 6/20/2010 9:54 AM, hibb wrote:



On Jun 20, 10:06 am, The Daring Dufasthe-daring-
*wrote:
On 6/20/2010 8:44 AM, wrote:

On Jun 20, 8:01 am, * *wrote:
On 6/20/2010 7:53 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

* *wrote in message
...
~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...Obama-given-ri...

Interesting that people are up in arms against Obama for this. Pretty
much evidence that they don't read and comprehend. The law was proposed
by Joe Lieberman, a usually conservative Democrat. Much as I dislike
Obama, I don't think he had anything to do with this.

Another bill like this was proposed and knocked down quickly as I
suspect this one will be also.

Lieberman is not conservative but very liberal. *Where he differs from
the Democrats is his strong support of Israel and our military.
Unlike Democrats, he's a man of principal.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Before everyone gets their shorts up in a knot over this proposed law,
it would be a good idea to think about what the law would be intended
to do instead of blindly taking the abuse of power, worse case
scenario.

Let's say that a terrorist like the recent Times Square bomber is
captured and during interrogation, discloses a plan by other
terrorists to create a massive cyber attack on the US internet system
tomorrow. * Searching his computers backs up his claim, but all that
can be determined is that they are planning on using internet service
provider X to do it. * Would you not want the president to be able to
tell provider X to temporarily suspend it's service until measures
could be taken to prevent the attack from working? * You could argue
that any reasonable service provider would voluntarily take such
action once contacted. *However, doing so would potentially open them
to all sorts of legal liability from ****ed off customers, especially
if it later turned out that the attack wasn't real and the
administration starts back-pedalling on what they actually asked the
ISP to do. *If the president orders them to do it, then you have
assurance that not only will they comply, but they will be relieved of
liability.

And what kind of illegitimate stunt using this law do you think a
president could pull without being impeached?

OH! Like we need a law so The President can order an oil well to shut
down and stop leaking? 8-)

TDD- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, at least the leaders around the Gulf Coast are finally taking it
upon themselves to shut down the leak. They are issuing a day of
prayer to stop the leak. They are going over BP and Obama's head and
asking for Divine Intervention. So we can expect that the oil leak
will be shut down by midnight tonight.

But Obama is the Messiah, ask any Liberal Commiecrat. We should all
pray to BeeHO to deliver us from peril.

TDD

That's a ridiculously idiotic comment. Obama was no Messiah and he
never was. That's just a republican talking point. All Obama was is a
better option than McCain and Palin. Still is even tho that ain't
sayin' much.

On Jun 20, 9:29*pm, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
On 6/20/2010 4:40 PM, Han wrote:

The Daring *wrote in news:hvlt5f$ii1
:

But Obama is the Messiah, ask any Liberal Commiecrat. We should all
pray to BeeHO to deliver us from peril.

I'm atheist (mostly). *To everyone his own, but fairness and benificence is
what I am looking for. *In the context of fiscal prudence.

The great God BeeHO is going to save us from carbon. I suppose he'll
work with Intel to transform us all into silicon based life forms.

TDD

For somebody who says he hates Republicans you sure talk like one.

On 6/20/2010 5:01 AM Frank spake thus:

On 6/20/2010 7:53 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

"harry" wrote in message
...

~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz0rM46RZps

Interesting that people are up in arms against Obama for this. Pretty
much evidence that they don't read and comprehend. The law was proposed
by Joe Lieberman, a usually conservative Democrat. Much as I dislike
Obama, I don't think he had anything to do with this.

Another bill like this was proposed and knocked down quickly as I
suspect this one will be also.

Lieberman is not conservative but very liberal. Where he differs from
the Democrats is his strong support of Israel and our military.
Unlike Democrats, he's a man of principal.

You mean he runs a school? Or he makes loans?

But getting back to your first comment: Joe Lieberman a liberal? Just
what planet did you say you come from: Snorlax?


--
The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring,
with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.

- Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com)

On Jun 20, 5:41*am, harry wrote:
~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1287695/Obama-given-ri...

On 6/20/2010 12:41 AM harry spake thus:

~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz0rM46RZps

Any ****ing idiot with two brain cells to rub together can figure out
that this is all about Joe Lieberman, and not at all about Obama. Hell,
the title of the article is "Obama to be *given* the right to shut down
the internet", not "Obama asks for the right ...".

And anyone with any sense, regardless of how they identify themselves
politically, should agree that this (the idea of a "kill switch" for the
internet) is a very very bad idea that flies in the face of any idea of
freedom, liberty, democracy, etc., etc.

And who thinks that Obama is a "liberal"? Sheesh. Just shows how
absolutely tilted to the right the world has become.


--
The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring,
with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.

- Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com)

On 6/20/2010 8:35 PM, Joe Carthy wrote:
The Daring wrote in
:

On 6/20/2010 2:41 AM, harry wrote:
~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...bama-given-rig
ht-shut-internet-kill-switch.html#ixzz0rM46RZps

The Commiecrat Liberals always screamed that George Bush was going to
be a dictator and refuse to leave The White House, take over
everything, etc, etc. The reason I was against all of the
anti-terrorism measures installed by the last administration was the
simple fact that Democrats would use them against the citizenry.
Especially any group of citizens who opposed them. I hope I have some
change left when our first and last Affirmative Action President
finishes his one and only term. I shudder at the thought of how long
it's going to take to repair the damage those Democrat morons have
done to my country.

TDD


What's this "my" country crap? It's all of ours. You can't take
ownership for yourself.

You can say it's MY country too. I explained it like this to a Liberal
wacko nut job once. You see that flag hanging from the flagpole at
the library? That's OUR American flag, it's public property. If you
tear down that flag and burn it, you're burning MY flag. If you want
to burn a flag as a demonstration of your right to political free speech
,you better go out and buy your own flag. It's the same way with OUR
country, when you tear it down, you're tearing down MY country. Is that
easy enough for you to grok?

TDD

On 6/20/2010 8:46 PM, hibb wrote:
On Jun 20, 9:29 pm, The Daring
wrote:
On 6/20/2010 4:40 PM, Han wrote:

The Daring wrote in news:hvlt5f$ii1
:

But Obama is the Messiah, ask any Liberal Commiecrat. We should all
pray to BeeHO to deliver us from peril.

I'm atheist (mostly). To everyone his own, but fairness and benificence is
what I am looking for. In the context of fiscal prudence.

The great God BeeHO is going to save us from carbon. I suppose he'll
work with Intel to transform us all into silicon based life forms.

TDD

For somebody who says he hates Republicans you sure talk like one.

My dad was a Republican and my mom was a Democrat. There are times
when I can sound like either. Does that make me psychotic? *snicker*

TDD

On 6/20/2010 8:45 PM, hibb wrote:
On Jun 20, 4:20 pm, The Daring
wrote:
On 6/20/2010 9:54 AM, hibb wrote:



On Jun 20, 10:06 am, The Daring Dufasthe-daring-
wrote:
On 6/20/2010 8:44 AM, wrote:

On Jun 20, 8:01 am, wrote:
On 6/20/2010 7:53 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

wrote in message
...
~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...Obama-given-ri...

Interesting that people are up in arms against Obama for this. Pretty
much evidence that they don't read and comprehend. The law was proposed
by Joe Lieberman, a usually conservative Democrat. Much as I dislike
Obama, I don't think he had anything to do with this.

Another bill like this was proposed and knocked down quickly as I
suspect this one will be also.

Lieberman is not conservative but very liberal. Where he differs from
the Democrats is his strong support of Israel and our military.
Unlike Democrats, he's a man of principal.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Before everyone gets their shorts up in a knot over this proposed law,
it would be a good idea to think about what the law would be intended
to do instead of blindly taking the abuse of power, worse case
scenario.

Let's say that a terrorist like the recent Times Square bomber is
captured and during interrogation, discloses a plan by other
terrorists to create a massive cyber attack on the US internet system
tomorrow. Searching his computers backs up his claim, but all that
can be determined is that they are planning on using internet service
provider X to do it. Would you not want the president to be able to
tell provider X to temporarily suspend it's service until measures
could be taken to prevent the attack from working? You could argue
that any reasonable service provider would voluntarily take such
action once contacted. However, doing so would potentially open them
to all sorts of legal liability from ****ed off customers, especially
if it later turned out that the attack wasn't real and the
administration starts back-pedalling on what they actually asked the
ISP to do. If the president orders them to do it, then you have
assurance that not only will they comply, but they will be relieved of
liability.

And what kind of illegitimate stunt using this law do you think a
president could pull without being impeached?

OH! Like we need a law so The President can order an oil well to shut
down and stop leaking? 8-)

TDD- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, at least the leaders around the Gulf Coast are finally taking it
upon themselves to shut down the leak. They are issuing a day of
prayer to stop the leak. They are going over BP and Obama's head and
asking for Divine Intervention. So we can expect that the oil leak
will be shut down by midnight tonight.

But Obama is the Messiah, ask any Liberal Commiecrat. We should all
pray to BeeHO to deliver us from peril.

TDD

That's a ridiculously idiotic comment. Obama was no Messiah and he
never was. That's just a republican talking point. All Obama was is a
better option than McCain and Palin. Still is even tho that ain't
sayin' much.


U mean I gots to worek hard cuz Obama ain't be dun gonna pay all my
bills? Dayam! Is it two late to votes fo dat utter guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RLuH1_VpJE

TDD

On Jun 21, 2:03*am, J Burns wrote:
harry wrote:
~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...Obama-given-ri...

That's Joe Lieberman, the least popular senator, with an approval rating
of 25%. *Democratic voters defeated him in the primary in 2006. *He
considers himself a Republican on foreign policy and defense. *He calls
himself a Democrat because that's how he's registered as a voter.

I agree with Joe on this one. *Some say the US should keep Mexican
trucks off US highways because of safety violations. *Shouldn't the US
keep the British off the US internet because most of them seem to have
nothing better to do than launch trolling attacks? *(see above)

We invented the internet therefore it belongs to us.........
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee
My trolls are interesting. Just look at this one. Everyone responds &
we all have an interesting discussion.

On 6/20/2010 11:51 PM harry spake thus:

We invented the internet therefore it belongs to us.........
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee

Again with the Wikipedia.

Apparently you don't know the difference between the internets and the
World Wide Web.


--
The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring,
with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.

- Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com)

The Daring Dufas wrote in news:hvmmab$ck2
:

My dad was a Republican and my mom was a Democrat. There are times
when I can sound like either. Does that make me psychotic? *snicker*

No comment. snickering.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

On Jun 20, 10:14*pm, David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 6/20/2010 12:41 AM harry spake thus:

~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...Obama-given-ri...

Any ****ing idiot with two brain cells to rub together can figure out
that this is all about Joe Lieberman, and not at all about Obama. Hell,
the title of the article is "Obama to be *given* the right to shut down
the internet", not "Obama asks for the right ...".

And anyone with any sense, regardless of how they identify themselves
politically, should agree that this (the idea of a "kill switch" for the
internet) is a very very bad idea that flies in the face of any idea of
freedom, liberty, democracy, etc., etc.

So, if a president has information obtained from multiple captured
terrorists and other sources that appears highly likely to be valid
and it indicates that a massive internet attack against the US is
going to be launched tonight using internet service provider X, you
don't want the president to have the authority to temporarily shut
down that ISP?




And who thinks that Obama is a "liberal"? Sheesh. Just shows how
absolutely tilted to the right the world has become.

I'd say it shows how deranged you are. But keep thinking that way.
The more dissatisfaction with Obama the better. That justs puts us
closer to blocking him from doing any more damage and being rid of him
in 2 1/2 years.




--
The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring,
with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.

- Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com)

harry wrote:
~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/

I thought this was supposed to be a forum on home repair.

John Karl wrote:

I know maths is hard, but if you have some disagreement, I'd be glad
to review your alternative calculations.


The problem arose when you assumed that a cup of water vapor was the
same as a cup of water.

You are absolutely correct. I made a glaring blunder. Thank you for politely
pointing out the error.

I'm going to sit in the corner for thirty minutes and feel shame.

On Jun 20, 11:29*pm, The Daring Dufas the-daring-
wrote:
On 6/20/2010 8:46 PM, hibb wrote:



On Jun 20, 9:29 pm, The Daring
wrote:
On 6/20/2010 4:40 PM, Han wrote:

The Daring * *wrote in news:hvlt5f$ii1
:

But Obama is the Messiah, ask any Liberal Commiecrat. We should all
pray to BeeHO to deliver us from peril.

I'm atheist (mostly). *To everyone his own, but fairness and benificence is
what I am looking for. *In the context of fiscal prudence.

The great God BeeHO is going to save us from carbon. I suppose he'll
work with Intel to transform us all into silicon based life forms.

TDD

For somebody who says he hates Republicans you sure talk like one.

My dad was a Republican and my mom was a Democrat. There are times
when I can sound like either. Does that make me psychotic? *snicker*

TDD

Hmm, so you hate your Mom and your Dad but you are more afraid of your
Mom?

On Jun 20, 11:36*pm, The Daring Dufas the-daring-
wrote:
On 6/20/2010 8:45 PM, hibb wrote:



On Jun 20, 4:20 pm, The Daring
wrote:
On 6/20/2010 9:54 AM, hibb wrote:

On Jun 20, 10:06 am, The Daring Dufasthe-daring-
* *wrote:
On 6/20/2010 8:44 AM, wrote:

On Jun 20, 8:01 am, * * *wrote:
On 6/20/2010 7:53 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

* * *wrote in message
...
~Interesting link for y'all.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a "liberal"/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...Obama-given-ri...

Interesting that people are up in arms against Obama for this. Pretty
much evidence that they don't read and comprehend. The law was proposed
by Joe Lieberman, a usually conservative Democrat. Much as I dislike
Obama, I don't think he had anything to do with this.

Another bill like this was proposed and knocked down quickly as I
suspect this one will be also.

Lieberman is not conservative but very liberal. *Where he differs from
the Democrats is his strong support of Israel and our military.
Unlike Democrats, he's a man of principal.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Before everyone gets their shorts up in a knot over this proposed law,
it would be a good idea to think about what the law would be intended
to do instead of blindly taking the abuse of power, worse case
scenario.

Let's say that a terrorist like the recent Times Square bomber is
captured and during interrogation, discloses a plan by other
terrorists to create a massive cyber attack on the US internet system
tomorrow. * Searching his computers backs up his claim, but all that
can be determined is that they are planning on using internet service
provider X to do it. * Would you not want the president to be able to
tell provider X to temporarily suspend it's service until measures
could be taken to prevent the attack from working? * You could argue
that any reasonable service provider would voluntarily take such
action once contacted. *However, doing so would potentially open them
to all sorts of legal liability from ****ed off customers, especially
if it later turned out that the attack wasn't real and the
administration starts back-pedalling on what they actually asked the
ISP to do. *If the president orders them to do it, then you have
assurance that not only will they comply, but they will be relieved of
liability.

And what kind of illegitimate stunt using this law do you think a
president could pull without being impeached?

OH! Like we need a law so The President can order an oil well to shut
down and stop leaking? 8-)

TDD- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, at least the leaders around the Gulf Coast are finally taking it
upon themselves to shut down the leak. They are issuing a day of
prayer to stop the leak. They are going over BP and Obama's head and
asking for Divine Intervention. So we can expect that the oil leak
will be shut down by midnight tonight.

But Obama is the Messiah, ask any Liberal Commiecrat. We should all
pray to BeeHO to deliver us from peril.

TDD

That's a ridiculously idiotic comment. Obama was no Messiah and he
never was. That's just a republican talking point. All Obama was is a
better option than McCain and Palin. Still is even tho that ain't
sayin' much.

U mean I gots to worek hard cuz Obama ain't be dun gonna pay all my
bills? Dayam! Is it two late to votes fo dat utter guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RLuH1_VpJE

TDD

Well at least you are sticking with the ridiculously idiotic stuff. Do
yo regularly scan youtube for black chicks?

On Jun 21, 3:40*pm, hibb wrote:
On Jun 20, 11:29*pm, The Daring Dufas the-daring-





wrote:
On 6/20/2010 8:46 PM, hibb wrote:

On Jun 20, 9:29 pm, The Daring
wrote:
On 6/20/2010 4:40 PM, Han wrote:

The Daring * *wrote in news:hvlt5f$ii1
:

But Obama is the Messiah, ask any Liberal Commiecrat. We should all
pray to BeeHO to deliver us from peril.

I'm atheist (mostly). *To everyone his own, but fairness and benificence is
what I am looking for. *In the context of fiscal prudence.

The great God BeeHO is going to save us from carbon. I suppose he'll
work with Intel to transform us all into silicon based life forms.

TDD

For somebody who says he hates Republicans you sure talk like one.

My dad was a Republican and my mom was a Democrat. There are times
when I can sound like either. Does that make me psychotic? *snicker*

TDD

Hmm, so you hate your Mom and your Dad but you are more afraid of your
Mom?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yep. That was in fact rue.