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Where can I get an old style non CARB compliant 5-gal gasoline can?

I pine for the days when 5-gallong gas jugs had a pour spout and a vent.
All the gasoline cans I can find in the stores are something called "CARB
compliant". They are miserable abominations.

I've never spilled so much gasoline in my life!

One model has an on/off lever, but you have to use two hands at all times,
one to hold the can, the other to keep pressed down on the lever, and the
third hand to hold the funnel. The moment you let up on the lever, the
handle locks shut, necessitating a manual reset.

The other type has only a push-to-open tab which you supposedly press
against the lip of the tool you're filling. Forget using funnels with this
method. And, since the spout fills the opening of the tool you're filling,
you can't see when it's full until you spill it all over the outside of the
tool.

There must be somewhere I can get the old-style gas cans.
What is the reason for these CARB abominations anyway?

Any idea where to get the old style 5-gallon gas cans?

My husband Bill does this whenever he's forced to buy the EPA-mandated gas
can

1. He cuts off the child-proof small tab that makes removing the cap to
refill so difficult. Unscrewing the cap still takes FORCE so no "child" is
going to be able to remove it anyway (did the EPA ever raise kids? That tab
is overkill!). A gas cap is screwed on so tightly I have trouble removing
it. I can't imagine a "child" removing it. Any child that has that kind of
strength also can defeat the child-proof tab!

2. He pops out the plastic-spring-loaded switch that prevents you from
pressing down twice. Now you can pour gas, let up on the handle to let it
settle, press down again to pour. With that lock-tab in place, you have to
spill the gas before you can see where the gas level is in the tank you're
filling or you have to put the can down, switch hands, re-press that
switch, and pour anew.

He hasn't drilled a vent hole yet, which would be the next step. I would
worry about multiple use with just a wood screw as some have mentioned.

What kind of vent can be drilled that will keep gas in but will be able to
be used many times without stripping?

And, what was wrong with the old vent & easy pour mechanism anyway?

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On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 06:17:36 +0000 (UTC), Brent wrote:

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Where can I get an old style non CARB compliant 5-gal gasoline can?

I pine for the days when 5-gallong gas jugs had a pour spout and a vent.
All the gasoline cans I can find in the stores are something called "CARB
compliant". They are miserable abominations.

I've never spilled so much gasoline in my life!

One model has an on/off lever, but you have to use two hands at all times,
one to hold the can, the other to keep pressed down on the lever, and the
third hand to hold the funnel. The moment you let up on the lever, the
handle locks shut, necessitating a manual reset.

The other type has only a push-to-open tab which you supposedly press
against the lip of the tool you're filling. Forget using funnels with this
method. And, since the spout fills the opening of the tool you're filling,
you can't see when it's full until you spill it all over the outside of the
tool.

There must be somewhere I can get the old-style gas cans.
What is the reason for these CARB abominations anyway?

Any idea where to get the old style 5-gallon gas cans?

My husband Bill does this whenever he's forced to buy the EPA-mandated gas
can

1. He cuts off the child-proof small tab that makes removing the cap to
refill so difficult. Unscrewing the cap still takes FORCE so no "child" is
going to be able to remove it anyway (did the EPA ever raise kids? That tab
is overkill!). A gas cap is screwed on so tightly I have trouble removing
it. I can't imagine a "child" removing it. Any child that has that kind of
strength also can defeat the child-proof tab!

2. He pops out the plastic-spring-loaded switch that prevents you from
pressing down twice. Now you can pour gas, let up on the handle to let it
settle, press down again to pour. With that lock-tab in place, you have to
spill the gas before you can see where the gas level is in the tank you're
filling or you have to put the can down, switch hands, re-press that
switch, and pour anew.

He hasn't drilled a vent hole yet, which would be the next step. I would
worry about multiple use with just a wood screw as some have mentioned.

What kind of vent can be drilled that will keep gas in but will be able to
be used many times without stripping?

And, what was wrong with the old vent & easy pour mechanism anyway?

My gas can has a vent in the nozzle. When the nozzle get submerged it stops,
sorta. I've found that if I stick the nozzle an inch-and-a-half down in the
tank it cuts off pretty close to full. Other than the silly plastic
child-proof tab it has no other safety features on it. The thing I *don't*
like is that there is no good way to seal the can, other than putting the
plastic disc between the nozzle and the can, which means disassembling the
thing twice for each use.

zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
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My gas can has a vent in the nozzle. When the nozzle get submerged it stops,
sorta. I've found that if I stick the nozzle an inch-and-a-half down in the
tank it cuts off pretty close to full. Other than the silly plastic
child-proof tab it has no other safety features on it. The thing I *don't*
like is that there is no good way to seal the can, other than putting the
plastic disc between the nozzle and the can, which means disassembling the
thing twice for each use.

I HATE my 5-gallon can. Even if I only put 4 gallons in it (now my
standard practice), the angles of the nozzle make it impossible to get
it down in the fill hole on my mower without a stream going across the
top of the mower first. These idiots need to look at some old cans, or
even a long-neck watering can, for some ideas on how to make a can you
can actually pour from. Even a little turn-down at the end of the nozzle
would help. Wonder if anybody makes a angled filler neck/funnel that
screws on to a lawnmower gas tank, and has a bigger larger lid, so you
could just leave it in place all the time? My can would work fine for
refueling a pickup truck.

--
aem sends...

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 14:20:32 -0400, aemeijers wrote:

wrote:
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My gas can has a vent in the nozzle. When the nozzle get submerged it stops,
sorta. I've found that if I stick the nozzle an inch-and-a-half down in the
tank it cuts off pretty close to full. Other than the silly plastic
child-proof tab it has no other safety features on it. The thing I *don't*
like is that there is no good way to seal the can, other than putting the
plastic disc between the nozzle and the can, which means disassembling the
thing twice for each use.

I HATE my 5-gallon can. Even if I only put 4 gallons in it (now my
standard practice), the angles of the nozzle make it impossible to get
it down in the fill hole on my mower without a stream going across the
top of the mower first. These idiots need to look at some old cans, or
even a long-neck watering can, for some ideas on how to make a can you
can actually pour from. Even a little turn-down at the end of the nozzle
would help. Wonder if anybody makes a angled filler neck/funnel that
screws on to a lawnmower gas tank, and has a bigger larger lid, so you
could just leave it in place all the time? My can would work fine for
refueling a pickup truck.

I had one like that; left it in Vermont. The nozzle on the one I bought to
replace it is pretty flexible. I don't spill anything, even with a full can
and it shuts off before overflowing the tank, as long as I stick it far enough
in. Other than no good cap on the nozzle, it's fine. It seems none have a
good cap anymore.