We stayed at a hotel recently that had a Moen 3838 shower head that we really
liked. See http://tinyurl.com/3xnma73. (I'm assuming that model is the correct
one. It looks exactly like the one in the hotel.)

According to the specifications, the flow rate is 2.5 GPM. I really like strong
water flow for showers. (How much water does a shower head with 50% of a normal
flow rate save if you have to stay in the shower twice as long?) Some shower
heads have the ability to remove the flow restricters for homes with low water
pressure.

Is 2.5 GPM a decent flow rate for us old timers who like real showers, and do I
need to make sure that the flow restricter is removable before I buy three of
these heads?

"mcp6453" wrote in message
news
We stayed at a hotel recently that had a Moen 3838 shower head that we
really
liked. See http://tinyurl.com/3xnma73. (I'm assuming that model is the
correct
one. It looks exactly like the one in the hotel.)

According to the specifications, the flow rate is 2.5 GPM. I really like
strong
water flow for showers. (How much water does a shower head with 50% of a
normal
flow rate save if you have to stay in the shower twice as long?) Some
shower
heads have the ability to remove the flow restricters for homes with low
water
pressure.

Is 2.5 GPM a decent flow rate for us old timers who like real showers, and
do I
need to make sure that the flow restricter is removable before I buy three
of
these heads?

Why not buy 1 and see if it meets your needs and if not you are only out the
cost of one if you can't return it. Also, my thought is that if you really
liked it in the hotel, it is probably likely that they did NOT remove the
flow restrictor so you probably wouldn't have to either, saving yourself
some money on water & sewer costs. Finally, try calling Moen and see if
they can tell you if you can remove it. The specs on this on their website
has :FOR MORE INFORMATION CALL: 1-800-BUY-MOEN

On Jun 11, 5:42*pm, mcp6453 wrote:
We stayed at a hotel recently that had a Moen 3838 shower head that we really
liked. Seehttp://tinyurl.com/3xnma73. (I'm assuming that model is the correct
one. It looks exactly like the one in the hotel.)

According to the specifications, the flow rate is 2.5 GPM. I really like strong
water flow for showers. (How much water does a shower head with 50% of a normal
flow rate save if you have to stay in the shower twice as long?) Some shower
heads have the ability to remove the flow restricters for homes with low water
pressure.

Is 2.5 GPM a decent flow rate for us old timers who like real showers, and do I
need to make sure that the flow restricter is removable before I buy three of
these heads?

Here is my solution to shower heads with non-removable flow
restricters.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tine_st...7615657106445/

"mcp6453" wrote in message
news
We stayed at a hotel recently that had a Moen 3838 shower head that we
really
liked. See http://tinyurl.com/3xnma73. (I'm assuming that model is the
correct
one. It looks exactly like the one in the hotel.)

According to the specifications, the flow rate is 2.5 GPM. I really like
strong
water flow for showers. (How much water does a shower head with 50% of a
normal
flow rate save if you have to stay in the shower twice as long?) Some
shower
heads have the ability to remove the flow restricters for homes with low
water
pressure.

Is 2.5 GPM a decent flow rate for us old timers who like real showers, and
do I
need to make sure that the flow restricter is removable before I buy three
of
these heads?

If you liked it at the hotel, you should like it at home. I find though,
that water flow is less important than the water pattern. We have a low
flow by WaterSaver that I like better than most of the high volume spray
heads. Give it a try, the only way to find out how good it really is.

Molly Brown wrote:
On Jun 11, 5:42 pm, mcp6453 wrote:
We stayed at a hotel recently that had a Moen 3838 shower head that
we really liked. Seehttp://tinyurl.com/3xnma73. (I'm assuming that
model is the correct one. It looks exactly like the one in the
hotel.)

According to the specifications, the flow rate is 2.5 GPM. I really
like strong water flow for showers. (How much water does a shower
head with 50% of a normal flow rate save if you have to stay in the
shower twice as long?) Some shower heads have the ability to remove
the flow restricters for homes with low water pressure.

Is 2.5 GPM a decent flow rate for us old timers who like real
showers, and do I need to make sure that the flow restricter is
removable before I buy three of these heads?

Here is my solution to shower heads with non-removable flow
restricters.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tine_st...7615657106445/

My, what big bits you have, Molly.

Jon

On Jun 11, 5:42*pm, mcp6453 wrote:
We stayed at a hotel recently that had a Moen 3838 shower head that we really
liked. Seehttp://tinyurl.com/3xnma73. (I'm assuming that model is the correct
one. It looks exactly like the one in the hotel.)

According to the specifications, the flow rate is 2.5 GPM. I really like strong
water flow for showers. (How much water does a shower head with 50% of a normal
flow rate save if you have to stay in the shower twice as long?) Some shower
heads have the ability to remove the flow restricters for homes with low water
pressure.

Is 2.5 GPM a decent flow rate for us old timers who like real showers, and do I
need to make sure that the flow restricter is removable before I buy three of
these heads?

I've been struggling with trying to get a decent shower expericne with
low flow heads since ~1980.

I finally ran across a shower head that I really liked.......at a
hotel.

When we got back I said to my wife...... "I really like that shower
head at the hotel we stayed at. I wonder how I can find out what it
was"

To which she replied......"that should be pretty easy, Kohler owns the
hotel"

The shower head I liked was a Kohler Forte single function shower
head. And as Ed mentions, it's not so much the flow or the force but
the pattern.

I have installed, recommended & given as gifts about a dozen of these
shower heads......not cheap but everyone has loved them.

check out ebay item 280518514805 sometimes you can get them for
~25 including shipping

www.plumbersurplus.com has them for ~$40 w/ free shipping

cheers
Bob

On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:54:43 -0700 (PDT), DD_BobK
wrote:

On Jun 11, 5:42*pm, mcp6453 wrote:
We stayed at a hotel recently that had a Moen 3838 shower head that we really
liked. Seehttp://tinyurl.com/3xnma73. (I'm assuming that model is the correct
one. It looks exactly like the one in the hotel.)

According to the specifications, the flow rate is 2.5 GPM. I really like strong
water flow for showers. (How much water does a shower head with 50% of a normal
flow rate save if you have to stay in the shower twice as long?) Some shower
heads have the ability to remove the flow restricters for homes with low water
pressure.

Is 2.5 GPM a decent flow rate for us old timers who like real showers, and do I
need to make sure that the flow restricter is removable before I buy three of
these heads?

I've been struggling with trying to get a decent shower expericne with
low flow heads since ~1980.

I finally ran across a shower head that I really liked.......at a
hotel.

When we got back I said to my wife...... "I really like that shower
head at the hotel we stayed at. I wonder how I can find out what it
was"

To which she replied......"that should be pretty easy, Kohler owns the
hotel"

Don't feel too dumb. I didn't know Kohler owned hotels either.

I used to work in HuntValley, in a building mostly or completely
occupied by Westinghouse. I noticed that there was no maker's name on
the elevators. I assume that's because they were't Westinghouse
elevators, so they compromised and took their name off.

But I gather yours really was Kohler. That's great.

The shower head I liked was a Kohler Forte single function shower
head. And as Ed mentions, it's not so much the flow or the force but
the pattern.

I have installed, recommended & given as gifts about a dozen of these
shower heads......not cheap but everyone has loved them.

check out ebay item 280518514805 sometimes you can get them for
~25 including shipping

www.plumbersurplus.com has them for ~$40 w/ free shipping

cheers
Bob

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote:

If you liked it at the hotel, you should like it at home. I find though,
that water flow is less important than the water pattern. We have a low
flow by WaterSaver that I like better than most of the high volume spray
heads. Give it a try, the only way to find out how good it really is.

The other problem I've found is that flow being restricted in the valve/mixer
body. Opening up the shower head in those situations doesn't help.

DD_BobK wrote:

On Jun 11, 5:42*pm, mcp6453 wrote:
We stayed at a hotel recently that had a Moen 3838 shower head that we really
liked. Seehttp://tinyurl.com/3xnma73. (I'm assuming that model is the correct
one. It looks exactly like the one in the hotel.)

According to the specifications, the flow rate is 2.5 GPM. I really like strong
water flow for showers. (How much water does a shower head with 50% of a normal
flow rate save if you have to stay in the shower twice as long?) Some shower
heads have the ability to remove the flow restricters for homes with low water
pressure.

Is 2.5 GPM a decent flow rate for us old timers who like real showers, and do I
need to make sure that the flow restricter is removable before I buy three of
these heads?

I've been struggling with trying to get a decent shower expericne with
low flow heads since ~1980.

I finally ran across a shower head that I really liked.......at a
hotel.

When we got back I said to my wife...... "I really like that shower
head at the hotel we stayed at. I wonder how I can find out what it
was"

To which she replied......"that should be pretty easy, Kohler owns the
hotel"

The shower head I liked was a Kohler Forte single function shower
head. And as Ed mentions, it's not so much the flow or the force but
the pattern.

I have installed, recommended & given as gifts about a dozen of these
shower heads......not cheap but everyone has loved them.

check out ebay item 280518514805 sometimes you can get them for
~25 including shipping

www.plumbersurplus.com has them for ~$40 w/ free shipping

cheers
Bob

The problem with restricted low flow high volume shower heads is that
being designed for 6 to 10 gallons a minute, at 2.5 are too wimpy to be
any good.
What you need is a 1.5 gallon per minute "Jet stream" showhead. It gives
you all the pressure you want at a low flow rate. Plus it has a button
to regulate or shut off to soap up. Why stand aside to soap up and waste
water when you can shut it off?
That's what I use and I love it. By the way, I'm on well water with
30-50lbs of water pressure.

http://jet-streamshowerhead.net/work.html


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If I wasn't me I wouldn't like me either.
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"mcp6453" wrote in message
news
We stayed at a hotel recently that had a Moen 3838 shower head that
we really
liked. See http://tinyurl.com/3xnma73. (I'm assuming that model is
the correct
one. It looks exactly like the one in the hotel.)

According to the specifications, the flow rate is 2.5 GPM. I really
like strong
water flow for showers. (How much water does a shower head with 50%
of a normal
flow rate save if you have to stay in the shower twice as long?) Some
shower
heads have the ability to remove the flow restricters for homes with
low water
pressure.

Is 2.5 GPM a decent flow rate for us old timers who like real
showers, and do I
need to make sure that the flow restricter is removable before I buy
three of
these heads?

Why not buy 1 and see if it meets your needs and if not you are only
out the cost of one if you can't return it. Also, my thought is that
if you really liked it in the hotel, it is probably likely that they
did NOT remove the flow restrictor so you probably wouldn't have to
either, saving yourself some money on water & sewer costs. Finally,
try calling Moen and see if they can tell you if you can remove it.
The specs on this on their website has :FOR MORE INFORMATION CALL:
1-800-BUY-MOEN



it's not so much the flow rate,its WHERE the showerhead puts the water.
Many showerheads put out a wide cone and most of the water goes on the wall
and shower curtain,and little on the body.

I bought an Incredible Head low flow showerhead,and it has a narrow
cone,and most of the water goes on my body and little on the wall and
curtain. I usually back off on the faucet to REDUCE the water flow.
It was rated at 2.1 GPM according to a sticker on the head.
I did drill out ever other hole in the output disc to give a coarser
spray,but that doesn't alter the flow rate;that is determined by the main
passage.There's no flow reducer.

BTW,I believe it's law that all shower heads now sold have to be 2.5 GPM or
less.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

LSMFT wrote:

What you need is a 1.5 gallon per minute "Jet stream" showhead. It
gives you all the pressure you want at a low flow rate. Plus it has a
button to regulate or shut off to soap up. Why stand aside to soap up
and waste water when you can shut it off?

Because it feels nice to have warm water running whatever part of your body
isn't being suds up, that's why. It's also one less thing to have to fiddle
with.

Jon