We have all experienced screw heads breaking off on occasion and its
always quite a job to get the old one out and then trying to fix the
damage.

I've tried a couple of tpical screw extraction products such as ones
from Harbor Freight and HD, but they both sucked and actually broke
while trying to use them.

Occasionally I've seen on TV some magical extractors but we all know
what adviertizing is like...

For those of you you may have had success with some and would like to
recommend a good solution or two I would greatly appreciate hearing of
you choice(s).

I figure, if one purchases something that actually works, it worth the
investment rather than buy junk only to throw it away and still have
the problem to solve.

Thanks IA -

On Jun 3, 6:44*am, bobmct wrote:
We have all experienced screw heads breaking off on occasion and its
always quite a job to get the old one out and then trying to fix the
damage.

I've tried a couple of tpical screw extraction products such as ones
from Harbor Freight and HD, but they both sucked and actually broke
while trying to use them.

Occasionally I've seen on TV some magical extractors but we all know
what adviertizing is like...

For those of you you may have had success with some and would like to
recommend a good solution or two I would greatly appreciate hearing of
you choice(s).

I figure, if one purchases something that actually works, it worth the
investment rather than buy junk only to throw it away and still have
the problem to solve.

Thanks IA -

Mileage always varies with screw extractors. The screw wouldn't come
out in the first place so extracting it is always iffy. The extractor
creates outward pressure as it attempts to embed in the screw. That
makes the problem worse.

Bets case is don't break it. Soak in wd40 or you favorite penatrating
oil for several days. If it will turn at all just work it back a
forth carefully. Let soak more.

Another option is to heat the surrounding metal. You really need an
oxy/act or mapp torch for this though. Propane is too slow.
Sometimes combine heat and soaking.

I often just drill with increasing sized bits until I start to expose
the threads. Then a tap will chase out the remaining metal. You need
to be really accurate. Helps to use a center puch and really small
bit to get exactly in the center. to start with.

"bobmct" wrote in message
...
We have all experienced screw heads breaking off on occasion and its
always quite a job to get the old one out and then trying to fix the
damage.

I've tried a couple of tpical screw extraction products such as ones
from Harbor Freight and HD, but they both sucked and actually broke
while trying to use them.

Occasionally I've seen on TV some magical extractors but we all know
what adviertizing is like...

For those of you you may have had success with some and would like to
recommend a good solution or two I would greatly appreciate hearing of
you choice(s).

I figure, if one purchases something that actually works, it worth the
investment rather than buy junk only to throw it away and still have
the problem to solve.

Thanks IA -

Screw extraction can be tricky, depending on why the screw broke in the
first place. Sears sells a set of extractors that are kind of interesting,
they are like these:
http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT...r=1902%50mode=

They also sell smaller ones.

What I like about these over traditional easy outs is that you do not need
to drill as deep to get a bite with the extractor.

What size screw do you have and what is the material that it is broken off
in? If it is a steel screw broken off in aluminum or brass you can simmer
it in an alum solution and rust away the screw and leave the aluminum
unscathed.

--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.

I've also had my share of problems; they seem worse when I pick a size
that's too small. As mentioned, center punches and little drill bits
help in getting an accurate center. This helps being able to go
bigger.

In article ,
bobmct wrote:

We have all experienced screw heads breaking off on occasion and its
always quite a job to get the old one out and then trying to fix the
damage.

I've tried a couple of tpical screw extraction products such as ones
from Harbor Freight and HD, but they both sucked and actually broke
while trying to use them.

Occasionally I've seen on TV some magical extractors but we all know
what adviertizing is like...

For those of you you may have had success with some and would like to
recommend a good solution or two I would greatly appreciate hearing of
you choice(s).

I figure, if one purchases something that actually works, it worth the
investment rather than buy junk only to throw it away and still have
the problem to solve.

Thanks IA -

Never met an extractor I liked. If possible, drill out the screw
instead.

"Smitty Two" wrote in message
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In article ,
bobmct wrote:

We have all experienced screw heads breaking off on occasion and its
always quite a job to get the old one out and then trying to fix the
damage.

I've tried a couple of tpical screw extraction products such as ones
from Harbor Freight and HD, but they both sucked and actually broke
while trying to use them.

Occasionally I've seen on TV some magical extractors but we all know
what adviertizing is like...

For those of you you may have had success with some and would like to
recommend a good solution or two I would greatly appreciate hearing of
you choice(s).

I figure, if one purchases something that actually works, it worth the
investment rather than buy junk only to throw it away and still have
the problem to solve.

Thanks IA -

Never met an extractor I liked. If possible, drill out the screw
instead.

I've often been successful extracting a screw using a left-handed drill bit
(and drill in reverse).
--
Peace,
BobJ

On 2010-06-03, bobmct wrote:

I've tried a couple of tpical screw extraction products such as ones
from Harbor Freight and HD, but they both sucked and actually broke
while trying to use them.

Never buy discount/tv screw extractors. I know the hype is often
overwhelmingly alluring, but it's all crap. Screw extraction is
tricky, exacting, and fraught with pitfalls. If you want to avoid
costly last-ditch methods, pay attention and spend the $$$ up front.

I figure, if one purchases something that actually works, it worth the
investment rather than buy junk only to throw it away and still have
the problem to solve.

Good attitude!! ...and dead nuts on!

First, buy a quality screw extractor system. I'm talking quality
extractors made of high quality steel and requiring drilling a proper
hole first. There are two main types. One is a square shape with
little flutes at each corner. The other is a reverse spiral. Both
work equally well, but require a precise pre-drilled hole. Typically,
both have a square headed drive and require something like a T-shaped
tap handle to use properly. I realize this sounds costly, but not as
costly as failure.

These can be found at machinist tool supply outlets/shops. Again,
better to buy the good stuff, even if you have to do so online. You
might also check an automotive parts store. Auto mechanics are always
doing broken bolt removal and auto parts stores usually carry pretty
good quality screw removal tools. Try your local Napa store.

Second, make sure you have good drills and a center punch. Punch a
center. Take your time and be as accurate as you can. Drilling an
accurate and straight hole is the primary KEY to success. Use quality
high speed steel drills (HSS) to make the hole. Use a good cutting
fluid to make a clean hole. It can't hurt to soak the hole/screw with
all kinds of lubricants and bolt derusting/breaker solutions. Also,
make sure you drill the right sized hole for the screw/bolt size and
correct extractor size. Fudging is a sure-fire prelude to failure.
Finally, tap the extractor in with a small hammer to get a secure
grip, attach the handle, and begin the extraction. If you have
proceeded carefully, methodically, and accurately, you should meet
with success. If not, there's always EDM ....electrical discharge
machining (the costly last ditch option).

OH.... one fellow recommmended a reverse or left handed drill. Can't
hurt and sometimes it works, specially with smaller screws. If you
want to try it, again drill an straight accurate hole. It will either
work and back out the screw ...or not! If it doesn't remove the
screw, at least you will have a proper hole to proceed with the
extractor tool.

Good luck!

nb

On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 17:40:00 GMT, notbob wrote:

On 2010-06-03, bobmct wrote:

I've tried a couple of tpical screw extraction products such as ones
from Harbor Freight and HD, but they both sucked and actually broke
while trying to use them.

Never buy discount/tv screw extractors. I know the hype is often
overwhelmingly alluring, but it's all crap. Screw extraction is
tricky, exacting, and fraught with pitfalls. If you want to avoid
costly last-ditch methods, pay attention and spend the $$$ up front.

I figure, if one purchases something that actually works, it worth the
investment rather than buy junk only to throw it away and still have
the problem to solve.

Good attitude!! ...and dead nuts on!

First, buy a quality screw extractor system. I'm talking quality
extractors made of high quality steel and requiring drilling a proper
hole first. There are two main types. One is a square shape with
little flutes at each corner. The other is a reverse spiral. Both
work equally well, but require a precise pre-drilled hole. Typically,
both have a square headed drive and require something like a T-shaped
tap handle to use properly. I realize this sounds costly, but not as
costly as failure.

These can be found at machinist tool supply outlets/shops. Again,
better to buy the good stuff, even if you have to do so online. You
might also check an automotive parts store. Auto mechanics are always
doing broken bolt removal and auto parts stores usually carry pretty
good quality screw removal tools. Try your local Napa store.

Second, make sure you have good drills and a center punch. Punch a
center. Take your time and be as accurate as you can. Drilling an
accurate and straight hole is the primary KEY to success. Use quality
high speed steel drills (HSS) to make the hole. Use a good cutting
fluid to make a clean hole. It can't hurt to soak the hole/screw with
all kinds of lubricants and bolt derusting/breaker solutions. Also,
make sure you drill the right sized hole for the screw/bolt size and
correct extractor size. Fudging is a sure-fire prelude to failure.
Finally, tap the extractor in with a small hammer to get a secure
grip, attach the handle, and begin the extraction. If you have
proceeded carefully, methodically, and accurately, you should meet
with success. If not, there's always EDM ....electrical discharge
machining (the costly last ditch option).

OH.... one fellow recommmended a reverse or left handed drill. Can't
hurt and sometimes it works, specially with smaller screws. If you
want to try it, again drill an straight accurate hole. It will either
work and back out the screw ...or not! If it doesn't remove the
screw, at least you will have a proper hole to proceed with the
extractor tool.

Good luck!

nb

Couldn't agree more. One thing to add.

Invest in a good magnifying glass with a light to ensure that the
drill is centered. Use a SMALL drill to start with and maneuver it by
changing the drill angle until it IS centered. Then line up the drill
perpendicular. Use this small drill to make a pilot hole before going
to the finished size hole. I have used this method with #55 pilot
drills and a very steady hand. If done right the screw will always
come out unless it is welded in place.

On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 17:40:00 GMT, notbob wrote:

On 2010-06-03, bobmct wrote:

I've tried a couple of tpical screw extraction products such as ones
from Harbor Freight and HD, but they both sucked and actually broke
while trying to use them.

Never buy discount/tv screw extractors. I know the hype is often
overwhelmingly alluring, but it's all crap. Screw extraction is
tricky, exacting, and fraught with pitfalls. If you want to avoid
costly last-ditch methods, pay attention and spend the $$$ up front.

I figure, if one purchases something that actually works, it worth the
investment rather than buy junk only to throw it away and still have
the problem to solve.

Good attitude!! ...and dead nuts on!

First, buy a quality screw extractor system. I'm talking quality
extractors made of high quality steel and requiring drilling a proper
hole first. There are two main types. One is a square shape with
little flutes at each corner. The other is a reverse spiral. Both
work equally well, but require a precise pre-drilled hole. Typically,
both have a square headed drive and require something like a T-shaped
tap handle to use properly. I realize this sounds costly, but not as
costly as failure.

These can be found at machinist tool supply outlets/shops. Again,
better to buy the good stuff, even if you have to do so online. You
might also check an automotive parts store. Auto mechanics are always
doing broken bolt removal and auto parts stores usually carry pretty
good quality screw removal tools. Try your local Napa store.

Second, make sure you have good drills and a center punch. Punch a
center. Take your time and be as accurate as you can. Drilling an
accurate and straight hole is the primary KEY to success. Use quality
high speed steel drills (HSS) to make the hole. Use a good cutting
fluid to make a clean hole. It can't hurt to soak the hole/screw with
all kinds of lubricants and bolt derusting/breaker solutions. Also,
make sure you drill the right sized hole for the screw/bolt size and
correct extractor size. Fudging is a sure-fire prelude to failure.
Finally, tap the extractor in with a small hammer to get a secure
grip, attach the handle, and begin the extraction. If you have
proceeded carefully, methodically, and accurately, you should meet
with success. If not, there's always EDM ....electrical discharge
machining (the costly last ditch option).

OH.... one fellow recommmended a reverse or left handed drill. Can't
hurt and sometimes it works, specially with smaller screws. If you
want to try it, again drill an straight accurate hole. It will either
work and back out the screw ...or not! If it doesn't remove the
screw, at least you will have a proper hole to proceed with the
extractor tool.

Good luck!

nb

Outstanding!

I would only add that the purpose of the center punch will prevent a
drill bit from dancing around. The punch prevents this problem.

I learned my lesson after a couple of attempts. If this is on an
important part, I drop it off at a machine shop and pay a pro to do
it. Sounds like others may have had better luck.

On the welding group, several people have reported success welding a
washer to the end of the screw and then welding a nut to the washer.
Probably easier with larger bolts and may require more welding skill
than I have. I'll have to try it some day though.

Larry Fishel wrote:

On the welding group, several people have reported success welding a
washer to the end of the screw and then welding a nut to the washer.
Probably easier with larger bolts and may require more welding skill
than I have. I'll have to try it some day though.

I have a little mig welder at home and we have a couple at work. I always
use this method and it has never failed. I just build up the broken bolt
a little at a time. Bzzt, bzzt, bzzt... Either grab the nub with vice grips
or weld a nut over it. It might take a few tries. And not too hot-- don't
want too much penetration as to weld the bolt completely over! I used
to do this all the time in an automotive machine shop.

On 06/05/2010 05:11 PM, Fishface wrote:
Larry Fishel wrote:

On the welding group, several people have reported success welding a
washer to the end of the screw and then welding a nut to the washer.
Probably easier with larger bolts and may require more welding skill
than I have. I'll have to try it some day though.

I have a little mig welder at home and we have a couple at work. I always
use this method and it has never failed. I just build up the broken bolt
a little at a time. Bzzt, bzzt, bzzt... Either grab the nub with vice grips
or weld a nut over it. It might take a few tries. And not too hot-- don't
want too much penetration as to weld the bolt completely over! I used
to do this all the time in an automotive machine shop.

That works, but I've found that if someone used a crappy, low-quality
bolt, that it's damn near impossible to get weld to stick to it.
Fortunately, those are the same bolts that are easiest to drill out.

nate

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On 6/3/2010 5:44 AM, bobmct wrote:
We have all experienced screw heads breaking off on occasion and its
always quite a job to get the old one out and then trying to fix the
damage.

I've tried a couple of tpical screw extraction products such as ones
from Harbor Freight and HD, but they both sucked and actually broke
while trying to use them.

Occasionally I've seen on TV some magical extractors but we all know
what adviertizing is like...

For those of you you may have had success with some and would like to
recommend a good solution or two I would greatly appreciate hearing of
you choice(s).

I figure, if one purchases something that actually works, it worth the
investment rather than buy junk only to throw it away and still have
the problem to solve.

Thanks IA -

The best screw extractors I've ever used were of the type shown in
the link below. The type is available from several manufacturers
with different brand names but they're all virtually identical.

http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/otc4651.html

TDD

replying to bobmct, Joe wrote:
How do I get new wheels for my old Atlantic Suitcase

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On 6/11/2018 2:14 PM, Joe wrote:
replying to bobmct, Joe wrote:
How do I get new wheels for my old Atlantic Suitcase

Buy a machine lathe and make them from some aluminum bar stock .

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Yes , I'm old
and crochety .
Get off my lawn !

On 06/11/2018 01:57 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 6/11/2018 2:14 PM, Joe wrote:
replying to bobmct, Joe wrote:
How do I get new wheels for my old Atlantic Suitcase

Buy a machine lathe and make them from some aluminum bar stock .


Wouldn't it be easier to clothesline one of those skateboarders and
steal the wheels before they regain consciousness?

On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 4:28:53 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 06/11/2018 01:57 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 6/11/2018 2:14 PM, Joe wrote:
replying to bobmct, Joe wrote:
How do I get new wheels for my old Atlantic Suitcase

Buy a machine lathe and make them from some aluminum bar stock .

Wouldn't it be easier to clothesline one of those skateboarders and
steal the wheels before they regain consciousness?

A time machine to go back 10 years to join the discussion while the original posters were still alive might help. snicker ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Live Monster

On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 9:00:31 PM UTC-5, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 4:28:53 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 06/11/2018 01:57 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 6/11/2018 2:14 PM, Joe wrote:
replying to bobmct, Joe wrote:
How do I get new wheels for my old Atlantic Suitcase

Buy a machine lathe and make them from some aluminum bar stock .

Wouldn't it be easier to clothesline one of those skateboarders and
steal the wheels before they regain consciousness?

A time machine to go back 10 years to join the discussion while the original posters were still alive might help. snicker ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Live Monster

GEEZ! Correction, 8 years! Dang those drugs they give me! o_O

[8~{} Uncle Half-Live Monster

On 06/11/2018 08:00 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 4:28:53 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 06/11/2018 01:57 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 6/11/2018 2:14 PM, Joe wrote:
replying to bobmct, Joe wrote:
How do I get new wheels for my old Atlantic Suitcase

Buy a machine lathe and make them from some aluminum bar stock .

Wouldn't it be easier to clothesline one of those skateboarders and
steal the wheels before they regain consciousness?

A time machine to go back 10 years to join the discussion while the original posters were still alive might help. snicker ^_^

Where is this alternate universe? In another thread someone was thanking
Stormin Mormon for his advice. I know Mormons have some odd ideas about
the afterlife but I don't think dispensing weed whacker advice is part
of it.