On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 13:59:45 -0400, "
wrote:

Snow piled up deeply on the grass might do as much damage as the salt.

Not from my experience in Saranac Lake, NY. Snow melted the 3rd week
of June. Summer was on the 4th of July.

Fishing in August, you might need a flannel shirt...

The pilots landing planes had "clickers" that turned on the runway
lights.

Snow nervier hurt my lawn.

My grand parents used to live in Saranac Lake. Somehow, they had grass
in the summer. If you could see the grass, for the black flies.

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"Oren" wrote in message
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On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 13:59:45 -0400, "
wrote:

Snow piled up deeply on the grass might do as much damage as the
salt.

Not from my experience in Saranac Lake, NY. Snow melted the 3rd week
of June. Summer was on the 4th of July.

Fishing in August, you might need a flannel shirt...

The pilots landing planes had "clickers" that turned on the runway
lights.

Snow nervier hurt my lawn.

Oren wrote:
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 13:59:45 -0400, "
wrote:

Snow piled up deeply on the grass might do as much damage as the salt.

Not from my experience in Saranac Lake, NY. Snow melted the 3rd week
of June. Summer was on the 4th of July.

Fishing in August, you might need a flannel shirt...

The pilots landing planes had "clickers" that turned on the runway
lights.

Snow nervier hurt my lawn.

Sooo....if your house has never been hit by lightening, it that fact
proof that it doesn't happen to another?

Grass can be damaged by long-term or heavy snow cover. Here's a little
bit about it:

http://www.ag.ndsu.edu/pubs/plantsci...cap/pp950w.htm

Some suggestions have really been in the "overkill" range. Salt is
water soluble. If the soil drains well enough to grow Kentucky Blue
Grass, it very likely drains well enough to wash away salt with normal
rainfall and/or a little more watering. Overdoing the watering might
keep it too wet and damage it further. Depending on how long the
yellowing has been going on, the grass may still be surviving. I would
at least talk to the guy who did the sodding and also to the next
neighbors in hopes of keeping the gentleman from having his lawn damaged
more. Nice that the man has somebody looking out for him.

We have had our southern lawn under salt water for several days, with no
damage at all. Storm surge, hurricane in G. of Mexico. It gets watered
all the time with reclaimed water that has a little salt in it.

wrote:
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We have had our southern lawn under salt water for several days, with no
damage at all. Storm surge, hurricane in G. of Mexico. It gets watered
all the time with reclaimed water that has a little salt in it.

_Major_ difference between grass types and the concentration of salt in
sea water is the primary difference there.

As you say (and I said earlier) if it's only yellow it hasn't been
killed so in all likelihood it will eventually come back w/ time and
dilution. It would be hard to hurt KY blue w/ excess watering unless
flooded it entirely and let it stand during warm weather.

--

" wrote:

Oren wrote:
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 13:59:45 -0400, "
wrote:

Snow piled up deeply on the grass might do as much damage as the salt.

Not from my experience in Saranac Lake, NY. Snow melted the 3rd week
of June. Summer was on the 4th of July.

Fishing in August, you might need a flannel shirt...

The pilots landing planes had "clickers" that turned on the runway
lights.

Snow nervier hurt my lawn.

Sooo....if your house has never been hit by lightening, it that fact
proof that it doesn't happen to another?

Grass can be damaged by long-term or heavy snow cover. Here's a little
bit about it:

http://www.ag.ndsu.edu/pubs/plantsci...cap/pp950w.htm


Nothing there about "long term or heavy snow cover". A bit about snow
mold-- and how it occurs mostly when it snows before the ground is
frozen. Ever been to Saranac Lake? I'd be willing to bet there
is no winter on record there in which the ground wasn't well frozen.
[More likely that it was still frozen in July in places.]

Some suggestions have really been in the "overkill" range. Salt is
water soluble. If the soil drains well enough to grow Kentucky Blue
Grass, it very likely drains well enough to wash away salt with normal
rainfall and/or a little more watering.

I'm with you here, though. I use abundant amounts of salt on my
sloping driveway. Never noticed any grass dying near it. Some
grasses prefer salty soil.

Jim

Jim Elbrecht wrote:
" wrote:

Oren wrote:
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 13:59:45 -0400, "
wrote:

Snow piled up deeply on the grass might do as much damage as the
salt.

Not from my experience in Saranac Lake, NY. Snow melted the 3rd week
of June. Summer was on the 4th of July.

Fishing in August, you might need a flannel shirt...

The pilots landing planes had "clickers" that turned on the runway
lights.

Snow nervier hurt my lawn.

Sooo....if your house has never been hit by lightening, it that fact
proof that it doesn't happen to another?

Grass can be damaged by long-term or heavy snow cover. Here's a
little bit about it:

http://www.ag.ndsu.edu/pubs/plantsci...cap/pp950w.htm


Nothing there about "long term or heavy snow cover". A bit about snow
mold-- and how it occurs mostly when it snows before the ground is
frozen. Ever been to Saranac Lake? I'd be willing to bet there
is no winter on record there in which the ground wasn't well frozen.
[More likely that it was still frozen in July in places.]

Some suggestions have really been in the "overkill" range. Salt is
water soluble. If the soil drains well enough to grow Kentucky Blue
Grass, it very likely drains well enough to wash away salt with
normal rainfall and/or a little more watering.

I'm with you here, though. I use abundant amounts of salt on my
sloping driveway. Never noticed any grass dying near it. Some
grasses prefer salty soil.

I'm over The Pond and weather conditions may differ. I'm with all those who
suggest extensive irrigation. Sodium chloride is the same the world over.
I've experienced salt burn of grass due to draining boats on lawns. Regular
application of water allowed the grass to grow back over the season.

Clot wrote:
Jim Elbrecht wrote:
" wrote:

Oren wrote:
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 13:59:45 -0400, "
wrote:

Snow piled up deeply on the grass might do as much damage as the
salt.
Not from my experience in Saranac Lake, NY. Snow melted the 3rd week
of June. Summer was on the 4th of July.

Fishing in August, you might need a flannel shirt...

The pilots landing planes had "clickers" that turned on the runway
lights.

Snow nervier hurt my lawn.
Sooo....if your house has never been hit by lightening, it that fact
proof that it doesn't happen to another?

Grass can be damaged by long-term or heavy snow cover. Here's a
little bit about it:

http://www.ag.ndsu.edu/pubs/plantsci...cap/pp950w.htm

Nothing there about "long term or heavy snow cover". A bit about snow
mold-- and how it occurs mostly when it snows before the ground is
frozen. Ever been to Saranac Lake? I'd be willing to bet there
is no winter on record there in which the ground wasn't well frozen.
[More likely that it was still frozen in July in places.]

Some suggestions have really been in the "overkill" range. Salt is
water soluble. If the soil drains well enough to grow Kentucky Blue
Grass, it very likely drains well enough to wash away salt with
normal rainfall and/or a little more watering.
I'm with you here, though. I use abundant amounts of salt on my
sloping driveway. Never noticed any grass dying near it. Some
grasses prefer salty soil.

I'm over The Pond and weather conditions may differ. I'm with all those who
suggest extensive irrigation. Sodium chloride is the same the world over.
I've experienced salt burn of grass due to draining boats on lawns. Regular
application of water allowed the grass to grow back over the season.


Why do we keep talking about Saranac Lake? I wouldn't go anywhere that
gets that much snow ) Sodium chloride isn't necessarily the only
problem. Fertilizer or dog urine can burn grass, but usually only if it
is already stressed....we get thirsty if we take in too much salt
without enough water. Plants do the same....give enough water and aok.
The poor old man spent $4000 on his grass...it's a shame to add to the
problem or make a lot of unneeded work with bad advice. As I said, the
salt will most likely wash away if the soil has decent drainage.
Digging up the damaged area may be a whole lot more work than is needed.
I consider the people who laid the sod to be probably the best
resource for info.

On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 08:18:40 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

My grand parents used to live in Saranac Lake. Somehow, they had grass
in the summer. If you could see the grass, for the black flies.

BTDT. Bloody and stinging ears to prove it :/

wrote:
Clot wrote:
Jim Elbrecht wrote:
" wrote:

Oren wrote:
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 13:59:45 -0400, "
wrote:

Snow piled up deeply on the grass might do as much damage as the
salt.
Not from my experience in Saranac Lake, NY. Snow melted the 3rd
week of June. Summer was on the 4th of July.

Fishing in August, you might need a flannel shirt...

The pilots landing planes had "clickers" that turned on the runway
lights.

Snow nervier hurt my lawn.
Sooo....if your house has never been hit by lightening, it that
fact proof that it doesn't happen to another?

Grass can be damaged by long-term or heavy snow cover. Here's a
little bit about it:

http://www.ag.ndsu.edu/pubs/plantsci...cap/pp950w.htm

Nothing there about "long term or heavy snow cover". A bit about
snow mold-- and how it occurs mostly when it snows before the
ground is frozen. Ever been to Saranac Lake? I'd be willing
to bet there is no winter on record there in which the ground
wasn't well frozen. [More likely that it was still frozen in July
in places.]
Some suggestions have really been in the "overkill" range. Salt is
water soluble. If the soil drains well enough to grow Kentucky
Blue Grass, it very likely drains well enough to wash away salt
with normal rainfall and/or a little more watering.
I'm with you here, though. I use abundant amounts of salt on my
sloping driveway. Never noticed any grass dying near it. Some
grasses prefer salty soil.

I'm over The Pond and weather conditions may differ. I'm with all
those who suggest extensive irrigation. Sodium chloride is the same
the world over. I've experienced salt burn of grass due to draining
boats on lawns. Regular application of water allowed the grass to
grow back over the season.
Why do we keep talking about Saranac Lake? I wouldn't go anywhere
that gets that much snow )

Where the heck is that?


Sodium chloride isn't necessarily the
only problem. Fertilizer or dog urine can burn grass, but usually
only if it is already stressed....we get thirsty if we take in too
much salt without enough water. Plants do the same....give enough
water and aok.

Noted, we also used to have dogs that were too generous to the lawn that
again irrigating would help to mitigate; that I think is as much to do with
sodium as an excess of N.

The poor old man spent $4000 on his grass...it's a
shame to add to the problem or make a lot of unneeded work with bad
advice.

Agreed.

As I said, the salt will most likely wash away if the soil
has decent drainage. Digging up the damaged area may be a whole lot
more work than is needed. I consider the people who laid the sod to
be probably the best resource for info.

He might be concerned that the contractors would see $$s and the kindly
neighbour might also be concerned about that.

Generous but not excessive applications of water should resolve.