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Whats the difference ?
I can get a Sony LCD 32" 720p 60hz. for $ 404.00 A Vizio 32" 1080p 60 hz. for $494.00 or a Vizio 32" 1080p 120 hz. for $ $548.00 Which is the best buy ? Whats the difference between 720p & 1080p & 60 hz.or 120 hz. Is there really a difference i can see ? -- Dell Inspiron Pentium dual-core 2.2 GHz 2 GB DDR2 SDRAM Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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On Wed, 19 May 2010 15:32:55 -0400, "desgnr"
wrote: Whats the difference ? I can get a Sony LCD 32" 720p 60hz. for $ 404.00 A Vizio 32" 1080p 60 hz. for $494.00 or a Vizio 32" 1080p 120 hz. for $ $548.00 Which is the best buy ? Whats the difference between 720p & 1080p & 60 hz.or 120 hz. Is there really a difference i can see ? alt.tv.tech.hdtv |
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"desgnr" wrote:
Whats the difference between 720p & 1080p & 60 hz.or 120 hz. Is there really a difference i can see ? Is Google broken again? Damn, the same day that Best Buy is closed too. |
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"desgnr" wrote in message ... Whats the difference ? I can get a Sony LCD 32" 720p 60hz. for $ 404.00 A Vizio 32" 1080p 60 hz. for $494.00 or a Vizio 32" 1080p 120 hz. for $ $548.00 Which is the best buy ? Whats the difference between 720p & 1080p & 60 hz.or 120 hz. Is there really a difference i can see ? -- Dell Inspiron Pentium dual-core 2.2 GHz 2 GB DDR2 SDRAM Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- yes. there's a big difference between 720 and 1080 if you have HD reciever. 120 hz is minimum in my opinion. 240 hz is better. pay the extra bucks for the vizio 1080 120hz. |
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On May 19, 3:41*pm, "skeeter" wrote:
"desgnr" wrote in message ... Whats the difference ? I can get a Sony LCD 32" *720p 60hz. for $ 404.00 A Vizio 32" 1080p 60 hz. for $494.00 or a Vizio 32" 1080p * 120 hz. for $ $548.00 Which is the best buy ? Whats the difference between 720p & 1080p & 60 hz.or 120 hz. Is there really a difference i can see ? -- Dell Inspiron Pentium dual-core 2.2 GHz 2 GB DDR2 SDRAM Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- yes. there's a big difference between 720 and 1080 if you have HD reciever. |
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On May 19, 3:41*pm, "skeeter" wrote:
"desgnr" wrote in message ... Whats the difference ? I can get a Sony LCD 32" *720p 60hz. for $ 404.00 A Vizio 32" 1080p 60 hz. for $494.00 or a Vizio 32" 1080p * 120 hz. for $ $548.00 Which is the best buy ? Whats the difference between 720p & 1080p & 60 hz.or 120 hz. Is there really a difference i can see ? -- Dell Inspiron Pentium dual-core 2.2 GHz 2 GB DDR2 SDRAM Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- yes. there's a big difference between 720 and 1080 if you have HD reciever. |
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On Wed, 19 May 2010 15:32:55 -0400, "desgnr"
wrote: Whats the difference ? I can get a Sony LCD 32" 720p 60hz. for $ 404.00 A Vizio 32" 1080p 60 hz. for $494.00 or a Vizio 32" 1080p 120 hz. for $ $548.00 Which is the best buy ? Whats the difference between 720p & 1080p & 60 hz.or 120 hz. Is there really a difference i can see ? IMO, get the 1080p. I can't speak for the brands... Blu Ray disc require 1080p for the most vivid of pictures. |
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On May 19, 4:00*pm, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 19 May 2010 15:32:55 -0400, "desgnr" wrote: Whats the difference ? I can get a Sony LCD 32" *720p 60hz. for $ 404.00 A Vizio 32" 1080p 60 hz. for $494.00 or a Vizio 32" 1080p * 120 hz. for $ $548.00 Which is the best buy ? Whats the difference between 720p & 1080p & 60 hz.or 120 hz. Is there really a difference i can see ? IMO, get the 1080p. I can't speak for the brands... Blu Ray disc require 1080p for the most vivid of pictures. It makes NO difference on a TV that small. |
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On May 19, 3:32*pm, "desgnr" wrote:
Whats the difference ? I can get a Sony LCD 32" *720p 60hz. for $ 404.00 A Vizio 32" 1080p 60 hz. for $494.00 or a Vizio 32" 1080p * 120 hz. for $ $548.00 Which is the best buy ? Whats the difference between 720p & 1080p & 60 hz.or 120 hz. Is there really a difference i can see ? -- Dell Inspiron Pentium dual-core 2.2 GHz 2 GB DDR2 SDRAM Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- I sprung for the Samsung 48" 1080P a couple of years ago. I have directTV but don't buy the HD package but the picture is still awesome. David |
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desgnr wrote:
Whats the difference ? I can get a Sony LCD 32" 720p 60hz. for $ 404.00 A Vizio 32" 1080p 60 hz. for $494.00 or a Vizio 32" 1080p 120 hz. for $ $548.00 Which is the best buy ? Whats the difference between 720p & 1080p & 60 hz.or 120 hz. Is there really a difference i can see ? Hi, Even at same size and resolution there are many different quality level. Under 40", 720P will do but if you want to watch full HD(1080P) Blue ray movie, native 1080P is better also 120Hz is better than 60Hz for sure for fast moving object like sports games. Plasma panel does not have this problem. We have 65" Panasonic full HD Plasma panel with upscaling A/V Denon receiver. We seldom go out for movie now. I help install a full HD projector at my friend's mountain village home with a full shebang including special custom chairs and even pop corn machine. CR rated Vizio brand pretty high. Look for good color reproductio at movie mode, too high contrast, to bright display is impressive at firsat but it is hrd on your eyes for daily watching. Sales people always jack up the brightness/contrast to impress you. One thing to have is a set up DVD when you get the TV. The DVD will help you set up the TV display proper to your liking. Displays which could show near true black or true white is good one. |
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On Wed, 19 May 2010 13:02:56 -0700 (PDT), Ron
wrote: On May 19, 4:00*pm, Oren wrote: On Wed, 19 May 2010 15:32:55 -0400, "desgnr" wrote: Whats the difference ? I can get a Sony LCD 32" *720p 60hz. for $ 404.00 A Vizio 32" 1080p 60 hz. for $494.00 or a Vizio 32" 1080p * 120 hz. for $ $548.00 Which is the best buy ? Whats the difference between 720p & 1080p & 60 hz.or 120 hz. Is there really a difference i can see ? IMO, get the 1080p. I can't speak for the brands... Blu Ray disc require 1080p for the most vivid of pictures. It makes NO difference on a TV that small. My eyes can only see 24 colors. They (colors) sure look better at 1080p. I'm after a 32" TV, mostly so I can fall asleep in front of it at night :-/ A 720p would work! |
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On May 19, 6:57*pm, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 19 May 2010 13:02:56 -0700 (PDT), Ron wrote: On May 19, 4:00*pm, Oren wrote: On Wed, 19 May 2010 15:32:55 -0400, "desgnr" wrote: Whats the difference ? I can get a Sony LCD 32" *720p 60hz. for $ 404.00 A Vizio 32" 1080p 60 hz. for $494.00 or a Vizio 32" 1080p * 120 hz. for $ $548.00 Which is the best buy ? Whats the difference between 720p & 1080p & 60 hz.or 120 hz. Is there really a difference i can see ? IMO, get the 1080p. I can't speak for the brands... Blu Ray disc require 1080p for the most vivid of pictures. It makes NO difference on a TV that small. My eyes can only see 24 colors. They (colors) sure look better at 1080p. I'm after a 32" TV, mostly so I can fall asleep in front of it at night :-/ A 720p would work! http://reviews.cnet.com/720p-vs-1080p-hdtv/ |
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On May 19, 2:32*pm, "desgnr" wrote:
Whats the difference ? I can get a Sony LCD 32" *720p 60hz. for $ 404.00 A Vizio 32" 1080p 60 hz. for $494.00 or a Vizio 32" 1080p * 120 hz. for $ $548.00 Which is the best buy ? Whats the difference between 720p & 1080p & 60 hz.or 120 hz. Is there really a difference i can see ? -- Dell Inspiron Pentium dual-core 2.2 GHz 2 GB DDR2 SDRAM Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- Bottom line...go with the Sony deal. |
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On Wed, 19 May 2010 15:32:55 -0400, desgnr wrote:
Whats the difference ? I can get a Sony LCD 32" 720p 60hz. for $ 404.00 A Vizio 32" 1080p 60 hz. for $494.00 or a Vizio 32" 1080p 120 hz. for $ $548.00 http://www.xkcd.com/732 |
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On May 19, 7:09*pm, Ron wrote:
On May 19, 6:57*pm, Oren wrote: On Wed, 19 May 2010 13:02:56 -0700 (PDT), Ron wrote: On May 19, 4:00*pm, Oren wrote: On Wed, 19 May 2010 15:32:55 -0400, "desgnr" wrote: Whats the difference ? I can get a Sony LCD 32" *720p 60hz. for $ 404.00 A Vizio 32" 1080p 60 hz. for $494.00 or a Vizio 32" 1080p * 120 hz. for $ $548.00 Which is the best buy ? Whats the difference between 720p & 1080p & 60 hz.or 120 hz. Is there really a difference i can see ? IMO, get the 1080p. I can't speak for the brands... Blu Ray disc require 1080p for the most vivid of pictures. It makes NO difference on a TV that small. My eyes can only see 24 colors. They (colors) sure look better at 1080p. I'm after a 32" TV, mostly so I can fall asleep in front of it at night :-/ A 720p would work! http://reviews.cnet.com/720p-vs-1080p-hdtv/- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, exactly what I would expect. The higher resolution really isn't noticeable unless you have a much larger screen. The other red herring is the 60hz vs 120hz refresh rate. While 120 is better, I think from a practical standpoint, few people would notice the difference. But all this makes for good gaming of customers into whatever the store wants to sell. I bought a Sony LCD TV at Circuit City that was 120hz. The salesman asks me if I need cables, for which I was already prepared with an answer before entering the store because I knew what was coming. I told him I already had an HDMI cable. He proceeds to tell me that because this TV is "120hz", the cable I have won't work and I need a new Monster cable for $100+. Obviously he didn't know he was dealing with an electrical engineer that knows the difference between the refresh rate of the display and the digital transfer speed of HDMI. And they have nothing to do with each other. I actually later bought the HDMI cable on Ebay for $15. While I was paying for the TV, I watched another salesman pull that scam on a senior citizen that was buying a $300 TV. He wound up paying probably $75 bucks for outrageously priced cables. |
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On May 20, 7:49*am, wrote:
On May 19, 7:09*pm, Ron wrote: On May 19, 6:57*pm, Oren wrote: On Wed, 19 May 2010 13:02:56 -0700 (PDT), Ron wrote: On May 19, 4:00*pm, Oren wrote: On Wed, 19 May 2010 15:32:55 -0400, "desgnr" wrote: Whats the difference ? I can get a Sony LCD 32" *720p 60hz. for $ 404.00 A Vizio 32" 1080p 60 hz. for $494.00 or a Vizio 32" 1080p * 120 hz. for $ $548.00 Which is the best buy ? Whats the difference between 720p & 1080p & 60 hz.or 120 hz. Is there really a difference i can see ? IMO, get the 1080p. I can't speak for the brands... Blu Ray disc require 1080p for the most vivid of pictures. It makes NO difference on a TV that small. My eyes can only see 24 colors. They (colors) sure look better at 1080p. I'm after a 32" TV, mostly so I can fall asleep in front of it at night :-/ A 720p would work! http://reviews.cnet.com/720p-vs-1080p-hdtv/-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, exactly what I would expect. *The higher resolution really isn't noticeable unless you have a much larger screen. *The other red herring is the 60hz vs 120hz refresh rate. * While 120 is better, I think from a practical standpoint, few people would notice the difference. But all this makes for good gaming of customers into whatever the store wants to sell. *I bought a Sony LCD TV at Circuit City that was 120hz. * The salesman asks me if I need cables, for which I was already prepared with an answer before entering the store because I knew what was coming. * *I told him I already had an HDMI cable. * He proceeds to tell me that because this TV is "120hz", the cable I have won't work and I need a new Monster cable for $100+. * Obviously he didn't know he was dealing with an electrical engineer that knows the difference between the refresh rate of the display and the digital transfer speed of HDMI. * And they have nothing to do with each other. * I actually later bought the HDMI cable on Ebay for $15. While I was paying for the TV, I watched another salesman pull that scam on a senior citizen that was buying a $300 TV. *He wound up paying probably $75 bucks for outrageously priced cables. Meritline.com normally has 6' gold-plated 1.3 HDMI 3 for 6.99 and free shipping. (bought 'em...use 'em) Don't get ripped (unless your abs need it)! |
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On 5/20/2010 12:50 PM, Bob Villa wrote:
Meritline.com normally has 6' gold-plated 1.3 HDMI 3 for 6.99 and free shipping. (bought 'em...use 'em) Don't get ripped (unless your abs need it)! I second that. I've been using the same Meritline cables for more than 6 mos. They work perfectly; 1080p connection is sharp as a tack. |
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wrote I told him I already had an HDMI cable. He proceeds to tell me that because this TV is "120hz", the cable I have won't work and I need a new Monster cable for $100+. Yes, but Monster uses oxygen free copper. That was their claim to fame with speaker wire in the past. |
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On May 20, 11:12*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
wrote * *I told him I already had an HDMI cable. * He proceeds to tell me that because this TV is "120hz", the cable I have won't work and I need a new Monster cable for $100+. Yes, but Monster uses oxygen free copper. * *That was their claim to fame with speaker wire in the past. Monster cable is an overpriced joke. |
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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
wrote I told him I already had an HDMI cable. He proceeds to tell me that because this TV is "120hz", the cable I have won't work and I need a new Monster cable for $100+. Yes, but Monster uses oxygen free copper. That was their claim to fame with speaker wire in the past. Careful. Most of their earnings come from suing people that type "Monster". |
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Ron wrote:
On May 20, 11:12 pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote: wrote I told him I already had an HDMI cable. He proceeds to tell me that because this TV is "120hz", the cable I have won't work and I need a new Monster cable for $100+. Yes, but Monster uses oxygen free copper. That was their claim to fame with speaker wire in the past. Monster cable is an overpriced joke. You should try Monster Energy Drinks, talk about overpriced. TDD |
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On May 21, 1:25*am, The Daring Dufas
wrote: Ron wrote: On May 20, 11:12 pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote: wrote * *I told him I already had an HDMI cable. * He proceeds to tell me that because this TV is "120hz", the cable I have won't work and I need a new Monster cable for $100+. Yes, but Monster uses oxygen free copper. * *That was their claim to fame with speaker wire in the past. Monster cable is an overpriced joke. You should try Monster Energy Drinks, talk about overpriced. TDD Never tried it, but they provide huge sponsorships in Supercross (motorcycle racing) and at lest one in NASCAR for a former SC rider Ricky Carmichael. |
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On May 20, 11:12*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
wrote * *I told him I already had an HDMI cable. * He proceeds to tell me that because this TV is "120hz", the cable I have won't work and I need a new Monster cable for $100+. Yes, but Monster uses oxygen free copper. * *That was their claim to fame with speaker wire in the past. At least in the case of speaker wire there was some remote basis to argue that the characteristics of the cable could affect the sound quality because the signal is analog. Not saying that I believe their oxygen free story, just that the cable characteristics do have an affect on the analog signal. In the case of HDMI, all you need to determine at the ends of the cable are if the signal is high or low, ie 1 or 0, so there is far less basis to believe a typical HDMI cable needs to be anything special. |
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On May 21, 4:54*am, wrote:
On May 20, 11:12*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote: wrote * *I told him I already had an HDMI cable. * He proceeds to tell me that because this TV is "120hz", the cable I have won't work and I need a new Monster cable for $100+. Yes, but Monster uses oxygen free copper. * *That was their claim to fame with speaker wire in the past. At least in the case of speaker wire there was some remote basis to argue that the characteristics of the cable could affect the sound Bull. Google coat hangers vs monster cables. |
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"Ron" wrote Yes, but Monster uses oxygen free copper. That was their claim to fame with speaker wire in the past. At least in the case of speaker wire there was some remote basis to argue that the characteristics of the cable could affect the sound Bull. Google coat hangers vs monster cables. Some years back, Stereo Review magazine blind tested expensive speaker wires versus lamp cord. No difference. |
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On May 21, 7:55*am, wrote:
On Thu, 20 May 2010 23:12:55 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote: wrote * I told him I already had an HDMI cable. * He proceeds to tell me that because this TV is "120hz", the cable I have won't work and I need a new Monster cable for $100+. Yes, but Monster uses oxygen free copper. * *That was their claim to fame with speaker wire in the past. Monster also sells audio cables with SIGNAL DIRECTION arrows printed on them to make sure you install them in the right direction! Yes; wouldn't want to get 'highs' confused with 'lows'! {:-) |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
"Ron" wrote Yes, but Monster uses oxygen free copper. That was their claim to fame with speaker wire in the past. At least in the case of speaker wire there was some remote basis to argue that the characteristics of the cable could affect the sound Bull. Google coat hangers vs monster cables. Some years back, Stereo Review magazine blind tested expensive speaker wires versus lamp cord. No difference. Did their study note that the quality of the connections can make a difference? I use a thick gauge of lamp cord instead of fancy speaker wire, because I am a cheap SOB, but all my vintage sound equipment uses push-in or binding post connections. For sound and video applications where the cable needs ends put on it, the connectors on the cheaper pre-mades are usually crap. The gold-plated connectors are probably meaningless unless you live on a beach, but a quality connector and a decent gauge of wire probably helps. Of course, I am not talking about modern miniature stereos, DVD players, and tiny speakers. The cables that come with those look like fishing line to me. -- aem sends... |
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aemeijers wrote:
aem sends... ^^^^^^^^^^ what does that mean? I've been meaning to ask you for years ;-) |
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"bud--" wrote in message ... wrote: On Thu, 20 May 2010 23:12:55 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote: wrote I told him I already had an HDMI cable. He proceeds to tell me that because this TV is "120hz", the cable I have won't work and I need a new Monster cable for $100+. Yes, but Monster uses oxygen free copper. That was their claim to fame with speaker wire in the past. Monster also sells audio cables with SIGNAL DIRECTION arrows printed on them to make sure you install them in the right direction! http://tinyurl.com/38879u7 Oh, that is great. |
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aemeijers wrote:
Ed Pawlowski wrote: "Ron" wrote Yes, but Monster uses oxygen free copper. That was their claim to fame with speaker wire in the past. At least in the case of speaker wire there was some remote basis to argue that the characteristics of the cable could affect the sound Bull. Google coat hangers vs monster cables. Some years back, Stereo Review magazine blind tested expensive speaker wires versus lamp cord. No difference. Did their study note that the quality of the connections can make a difference? I use a thick gauge of lamp cord instead of fancy speaker wire, because I am a cheap SOB, but all my vintage sound equipment uses push-in or binding post connections. For sound and video applications where the cable needs ends put on it, the connectors on the cheaper pre-mades are usually crap. The gold-plated connectors are probably meaningless unless you live on a beach, but a quality connector and a decent gauge of wire probably helps. Of course, I am not talking about modern miniature stereos, DVD players, and tiny speakers. The cables that come with those look like fishing line to me. Many of the professional sound system installers for nightclubs use rubber insulated #14 or #12 SO cord for speaker wiring. I'll use a lot of plastic jacketed #18/2 stranded for 70 volt PA systems going with a larger gage wire for the primary link only when getting into power levels of 100 watts or more. TDD |
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On 05/22/2010 09:19 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
aemeijers wrote: Ed Pawlowski wrote: "Ron" wrote Yes, but Monster uses oxygen free copper. That was their claim to fame with speaker wire in the past. At least in the case of speaker wire there was some remote basis to argue that the characteristics of the cable could affect the sound Bull. Google coat hangers vs monster cables. Some years back, Stereo Review magazine blind tested expensive speaker wires versus lamp cord. No difference. Did their study note that the quality of the connections can make a difference? I use a thick gauge of lamp cord instead of fancy speaker wire, because I am a cheap SOB, but all my vintage sound equipment uses push-in or binding post connections. For sound and video applications where the cable needs ends put on it, the connectors on the cheaper pre-mades are usually crap. The gold-plated connectors are probably meaningless unless you live on a beach, but a quality connector and a decent gauge of wire probably helps. Of course, I am not talking about modern miniature stereos, DVD players, and tiny speakers. The cables that come with those look like fishing line to me. Many of the professional sound system installers for nightclubs use rubber insulated #14 or #12 SO cord for speaker wiring. I'll use a lot of plastic jacketed #18/2 stranded for 70 volt PA systems going with a larger gage wire for the primary link only when getting into power levels of 100 watts or more. TDD You can count me in with the "heavy gauge zip cord" crowd. I do tin the ends to keep things neater. Maybe I'm missing out on something, but if I am, it's not really that important to me. nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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On May 22, 12:03*am, Tony Hwang wrote:
wrote: On May 20, 11:12 pm, "Ed *wrote: *wrote * * I told him I already had an HDMI cable. * He proceeds to tell me that because this TV is "120hz", the cable I have won't work and I need a new Monster cable for $100+. Yes, but Monster uses oxygen free copper. * *That was their claim to fame with speaker wire in the past. At least in the case of speaker wire there was some remote basis to argue that the characteristics of the cable could affect the sound quality because the signal is analog. *Not saying that I believe their oxygen free story, just that the cable characteristics do have an affect on the analog signal. * In the case of HDMI, all you need to determine at the ends of the cable are if the signal is high or low, ie 1 or 0, so there is far less basis to believe a typical HDMI cable needs to be anything special. Hmm, Really? digital bits should have no phase jitters to maintain signal quality. Not true. The digital signal can have phase shift as long as it's not large compared to the bit interval. Any how, how many people in the world can hear/see the difference if we believe Monster's claim. There are better things to spend my hard earned money on. All HDMI cables I use is from eBay sellers in H.K. None of them gave me any sign of trouble. Maybe my eyes and ears are inferior to detect the poor quality cable. I am an advanced amateur musician all my life. I have pretty good set of ears, LOL!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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On May 22, 1:26*am, bud-- wrote:
wrote: On Thu, 20 May 2010 23:12:55 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote: wrote * I told him I already had an HDMI cable. * He proceeds to tell me that because this TV is "120hz", the cable I have won't work and I need a new Monster cable for $100+. Yes, but Monster uses oxygen free copper. * *That was their claim to fame with speaker wire in the past. Monster also sells audio cables with SIGNAL DIRECTION arrows printed on them to make sure you install them in the right direction! http://tinyurl.com/38879u7 Good lord........... |
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On May 22, 7:53*am, wrote:
On Fri, 21 May 2010 21:56:54 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote: "Ron" wrote Yes, but Monster uses oxygen free copper. * *That was their claim to fame with speaker wire in the past. At least in the case of speaker wire there was some remote basis to argue that the characteristics of the cable could affect the sound Bull. Google coat hangers vs monster cables. Some years back, Stereo Review magazine blind tested expensive speaker wires versus lamp cord. *No difference. That is a bit incomplete. Although the claims of premium cable companies such as Monster are mostly fairy tails, lamp cord in many applications would be too small a gauge to carry the signal properly, especially as the length of the run increases. I would agree that any generic wire of the same size would be fine. Monster tends to be in larger gauges than lamp cord. Size (and good connections) *is what matters most. Advertising and marketing hype... not so much. The bottom line is, a LOT of people buy monster cable because they think it's gonna make their stereo sound better, when in fact people can't tell the difference between coat hangers and MC. |
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On May 22, 9:50*am, Nate Nagel wrote:
On 05/22/2010 09:19 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote: aemeijers wrote: Ed Pawlowski wrote: "Ron" wrote Yes, but Monster uses oxygen free copper. That was their claim to fame with speaker wire in the past. At least in the case of speaker wire there was some remote basis to argue that the characteristics of the cable could affect the sound Bull. Google coat hangers vs monster cables. Some years back, Stereo Review magazine blind tested expensive speaker wires versus lamp cord. No difference. Did their study note that the quality of the connections can make a difference? I use a thick gauge of lamp cord instead of fancy speaker wire, because I am a cheap SOB, but all my vintage sound equipment uses push-in or binding post connections. For sound and video applications where the cable needs ends put on it, the connectors on the cheaper pre-mades are usually crap. The gold-plated connectors are probably meaningless unless you live on a beach, but a quality connector and a decent gauge of wire probably helps. Of course, I am not talking about modern miniature stereos, DVD players, and tiny speakers. The cables that come with those look like fishing line to me.. Many of the professional sound system installers for nightclubs use rubber insulated #14 or #12 SO cord for speaker wiring. I'll use a lot of plastic jacketed #18/2 stranded for 70 volt PA systems going with a larger gage wire for the primary link only when getting into power levels of 100 watts or more. TDD You can count me in with the "heavy gauge zip cord" crowd. *I do tin the ends to keep things neater. *Maybe I'm missing out on something, but if I am, it's not really that important to me. You aren't missing out on anything. |
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Nate Nagel wrote:
On 05/22/2010 09:19 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote: aemeijers wrote: Ed Pawlowski wrote: "Ron" wrote Yes, but Monster uses oxygen free copper. That was their claim to fame with speaker wire in the past. At least in the case of speaker wire there was some remote basis to argue that the characteristics of the cable could affect the sound Bull. Google coat hangers vs monster cables. Some years back, Stereo Review magazine blind tested expensive speaker wires versus lamp cord. No difference. Did their study note that the quality of the connections can make a difference? I use a thick gauge of lamp cord instead of fancy speaker wire, because I am a cheap SOB, but all my vintage sound equipment uses push-in or binding post connections. For sound and video applications where the cable needs ends put on it, the connectors on the cheaper pre-mades are usually crap. The gold-plated connectors are probably meaningless unless you live on a beach, but a quality connector and a decent gauge of wire probably helps. Of course, I am not talking about modern miniature stereos, DVD players, and tiny speakers. The cables that come with those look like fishing line to me. Many of the professional sound system installers for nightclubs use rubber insulated #14 or #12 SO cord for speaker wiring. I'll use a lot of plastic jacketed #18/2 stranded for 70 volt PA systems going with a larger gage wire for the primary link only when getting into power levels of 100 watts or more. TDD You can count me in with the "heavy gauge zip cord" crowd. I do tin the ends to keep things neater. Maybe I'm missing out on something, but if I am, it's not really that important to me. nate I don't know if you're familiar with SO, SOW, SOOW cord types but I use them for low impedance speaker wire in commercial settings due to the ease of pulling during installation, durability and better resistance to damage. The cable is round with thick insulation. http://preview.tinyurl.com/25d7nbb TDD |
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