The water is flushing out the tank, but it is not draining out of the
bowl. When it does drain out the bowl is drains really really slow.
There is not any pressure behind the drain. I read information about
the siphon maybe be clugged.I do not understand how to fix it. What do
I need to do to fix my toliet?

Thank you!

On May 5, 9:50*pm, brit wrote:
The water is flushing out the tank, but it is not draining out of the
bowl. When it does drain out the bowl is drains really really slow.
There is not any pressure behind the drain. I read information about
the siphon maybe be clugged.I do not understand how to fix it. What do
I need to do to fix my toliet?

Thank you!

Go to a hardware store and ask in the plumbing area for a toilet snake
and ask them if they can give you a quick demonstration of how to use
it,. You rotate the snake while pushing it down the toilet. It will
eventually unclog whateve is in there. It could be almost anything,
from a sock that got flushed down unknowingly to a toy soldier a kid
flushed.

You could also try a toilet plunger, you put it over the botton of the
toiket and move it up and down. Again the hardware store and ask them
to show you how to use it.

You must have led a very pampered life to never have seen either of
these common tools in use.

Turn off the water to the toilet and flush it. Remove the tank
lid, exposing the insides. Raise the flapper valve and either
remove it temporarily or tie it back. Pour EITHER (not both) of a
can of Draino or Muriatic acid into the opening, being careful to
not let it get into the tank in general. Wait an hour or two.
Let the flapper loose, or replace it. Turn the water back on, let
the tank fill and flush it a couple times.


"hr(bob) " wrote in message
...
On May 5, 9:50 pm, brit wrote:
The water is flushing out the tank, but it is not draining out
of the
bowl. When it does drain out the bowl is drains really really
slow.
There is not any pressure behind the drain. I read information
about
the siphon maybe be clugged.I do not understand how to fix it.
What do
I need to do to fix my toliet?

Thank you!

Go to a hardware store and ask in the plumbing area for a toilet
snake
and ask them if they can give you a quick demonstration of how
to use
it,. You rotate the snake while pushing it down the toilet. It
will
eventually unclog whateve is in there. It could be almost
anything,
from a sock that got flushed down unknowingly to a toy soldier a
kid
flushed.

You could also try a toilet plunger, you put it over the botton
of the
toiket and move it up and down. Again the hardware store and
ask them
to show you how to use it.

You must have led a very pampered life to never have seen either
of
these common tools in use.


--
Nonny
On most days,
it's just not worth
the effort of chewing
through the restraints..

On Wed, 5 May 2010 20:15:58 -0700, "Nonny" wrote:

Turn off the water to the toilet and flush it. Remove the tank
lid, exposing the insides. Raise the flapper valve and either
remove it temporarily or tie it back. Pour EITHER (not both) of a
can of Draino or Muriatic acid into the opening, being careful to
not let it get into the tank in general. Wait an hour or two.
Let the flapper loose, or replace it. Turn the water back on, let
the tank fill and flush it a couple times.

I don't know much about this, but what is the point of putting it
through the tank instead of straight into the bowl?

Also, be sure to add acid to water and not add water to acid.

This used to confuse me but when you at water to acid, there is loads
of acid and only a little water. Any reaction, even just bubbling,
has a high concentration of acid.


"hr(bob) " wrote in message
...
On May 5, 9:50 pm, brit wrote:
The water is flushing out the tank, but it is not draining out
of the
bowl. When it does drain out the bowl is drains really really
slow.
There is not any pressure behind the drain. I read information
about
the siphon maybe be clugged.I do not understand how to fix it.
What do
I need to do to fix my toliet?

Thank you!

Go to a hardware store and ask in the plumbing area for a toilet
snake
and ask them if they can give you a quick demonstration of how
to use
it,. You rotate the snake while pushing it down the toilet. It
will
eventually unclog whateve is in there. It could be almost
anything,
from a sock that got flushed down unknowingly to a toy soldier a
kid
flushed.

You could also try a toilet plunger, you put it over the botton
of the
toiket and move it up and down. Again the hardware store and
ask them
to show you how to use it.

You must have led a very pampered life to never have seen either
of
these common tools in use.

CY: Sounds like either clogged rim holes, or clogged drain.
Try dumping in a bucket of water. If the water fills in the
bowl, that's a clogged drain. If the bucket of water goes
down promptly, then you've got rim holes problems, most
likely.

Turn off the water to the toilet and flush it. Remove the
tank
lid, exposing the insides. Raise the flapper valve and
either
remove it temporarily or tie it back. Pour EITHER (not
both) of a
can of Draino or Muriatic acid into the opening, being
careful to
not let it get into the tank in general. Wait an hour or
two.
Let the flapper loose, or replace it. Turn the water back
on, let
the tank fill and flush it a couple times.

I don't know much about this, but what is the point of
putting it
through the tank instead of straight into the bowl?

CY: Might be clogged rim holes, where the water goes into
the bowl.

Also, be sure to add acid to water and not add water to
acid.

This used to confuse me but when you at water to acid, there
is loads
of acid and only a little water. Any reaction, even just
bubbling,
has a high concentration of acid.

CY: Wrong. Concentrated sulphuric acid is a bit viscous
(gloopy) and heavier than water. Pouring water onto the top
of the acid has been known to layer the water on top of the
acid, which can created a thermal reaction, and splatter.
Also, good to use a stirring stick while pouring, so as to
get a more instant mix.

On May 6, 7:33�am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
CY: Sounds like either clogged rim holes, or clogged drain.
Try dumping in a bucket of water. If the water fills in the
bowl, that's a clogged drain. If the bucket of water goes
down promptly, then you've got rim holes problems, most
likely.

Turn off the water to the toilet and flush it. �Remove the
tank
lid, exposing the insides. �Raise the flapper valve and
either
remove it temporarily or tie it back. �Pour EITHER (not
both) of a
can of Draino or Muriatic acid into the opening, being
careful to
not let it get into the tank in general. �Wait an hour or
two.
Let the flapper loose, or replace it. �Turn the water back
on, let
the tank fill and flush it a couple times.

I don't know much about this, but what is the point of
putting it
through the tank instead of straight into the bowl?

CY: Might be clogged rim �holes, where the water goes into
the bowl.

Also, be sure to add acid to water and not add water to
acid.

This used to confuse me but when you at water to acid, there
is loads
of acid and only a little water. �Any reaction, even just
bubbling,
has a high concentration of acid.

CY: Wrong. Concentrated sulphuric acid is a bit viscous
(gloopy) and heavier than water. Pouring water onto the top
of the acid has been known to layer the water on top of the
acid, which can created a thermal reaction, and splatter.
Also, good to use a stirring stick while pouring, so as to
get a more instant mix.

From the upper tank to the bowl rim are internal passages that carry
the water that helps make the flush, this is the water from the small
line that goes in the dip tube.

These internal passages clog with sediment over time, and decreased
flow causes no wave action in the bowl and no flush.

muriatic acid works great to clear this.

Wear safety glasses use a funnel and its best to empty the bowl of
water so the acid can clean the trap area too but its not critical.

just pour in a cup or two down the dip tube, use a funnel avoid
splashing, leave room close door wait 15 minutes, and perhaps do
again.

for 5 bucks of acid its a no brainer to at least try

On Thu, 6 May 2010 07:33:14 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

CY: Sounds like either clogged rim holes, or clogged drain.
Try dumping in a bucket of water. If the water fills in the
bowl, that's a clogged drain. If the bucket of water goes
down promptly, then you've got rim holes problems, most
likely.

Turn off the water to the toilet and flush it. Remove the
tank
lid, exposing the insides. Raise the flapper valve and
either
remove it temporarily or tie it back. Pour EITHER (not
both) of a
can of Draino or Muriatic acid into the opening, being
careful to
not let it get into the tank in general. Wait an hour or
two.
Let the flapper loose, or replace it. Turn the water back
on, let
the tank fill and flush it a couple times.

I don't know much about this, but what is the point of
putting it
through the tank instead of straight into the bowl?

CY: Might be clogged rim holes, where the water goes into
the bowl.

If there are, he should do that, but he didn't say anything about
that.

Also, be sure to add acid to water and not add water to
acid.

This used to confuse me but when you at water to acid, there
is loads
of acid and only a little water. Any reaction, even just
bubbling,
has a high concentration of acid.

CY: Wrong.

You mean, Right, plus the rest of what you wrote. You said the same
thing I did.

Concentrated sulphuric acid is a bit viscous
(gloopy) and heavier than water. Pouring water onto the top
of the acid has been known to layer the water on top of the
acid, which can created a thermal reaction, and splatter.
Also, good to use a stirring stick while pouring, so as to
get a more instant mix.

"mm" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 5 May 2010 20:15:58 -0700, "Nonny"
wrote:

Turn off the water to the toilet and flush it. Remove the tank
lid, exposing the insides. Raise the flapper valve and either
remove it temporarily or tie it back. Pour EITHER (not both) of
a
can of Draino or Muriatic acid into the opening, being careful
to
not let it get into the tank in general. Wait an hour or two.
Let the flapper loose, or replace it. Turn the water back on,
let
the tank fill and flush it a couple times.

I don't know much about this, but what is the point of putting
it
through the tank instead of straight into the bowl?

Also, be sure to add acid to water and not add water to acid.

This used to confuse me but when you at water to acid, there is
loads
of acid and only a little water. Any reaction, even just
bubbling,
has a high concentration of acid.

The reason I suggest adding the acid to the tank drain instead of
just the bowl is that it might contact some build-up that would
otherwise rest above the water line in the toilet. It's just
pouring it in at the highest point.

I agree with your analysis of water to acid and not the other way
around. Pouring in acid takes the water pH down gradually,
eliminating sputtering from going the other way.

--
Nonny
On most days,
it's just not worth
the effort of chewing
through the restraints..

On 5/6/2010 12:16 AM, mm wrote:

Also, be sure to add acid to water and not add water to acid.

This used to confuse me but when you at water to acid, there is loads
of acid and only a little water. Any reaction, even just bubbling,
has a high concentration of acid.




Back when I was taking Chem Reactions I, the mantra was: "Do it like you
oughtta; add the acid to the watah."

Always worked for me....




Jay

On May 5, 10:50�pm, brit wrote:
The water is flushing out the tank, but it is not draining out of the
bowl. When it does drain out the bowl is drains really really slow.
There is not any pressure behind the drain. I read information about
the siphon maybe be clugged.I do not understand how to fix it. What do
I need to do to fix my toliet?

Thank you!

Try flushing with a bucket of water, if the toilet flushes solids well
with a bucket you can give the toilet a acid treatment, its safe cheap
and fast.....

you can kinda tell if the water just swirls when flushing

"brit" wrote in message
...
The water is flushing out the tank, but it is not draining out of the
bowl. When it does drain out the bowl is drains really really slow.
There is not any pressure behind the drain. I read information about
the siphon maybe be clugged.I do not understand how to fix it. What do
I need to do to fix my toliet?

Thank you!

Sounds to me like a clog.

When this happened to me, what I did after trying unsuccessfully to snake
the problem was to pull the whole unit, take it outside flip it up-side down
and run the garden hose in the outlet.

Problem was a plastic cap my kid dumped in and flushed.

While I had the unit out I replaced:
The gasket between tank and bowl and the bolts,
The tee bolts, nuts to hold down the bowl,
The overflow tube and flapper assy. (Old one still worked but was in poor
shape.)
The angle stop and supply line. (My policy is to replace any valve with
quarter turn ball valves, and supply lines with the nice braided stainless
steel lines.


Having the toilet completely apart is also a good time to clean all of those
places that don't get cleaned too good.

You should also caulk almost all the way around the base. You want to leave
a little gap in the caulk bead in the back as if the wax ring is leaking you
want to spot that before you have major structural damage to the floor.

Buy the good parts, it only costs a few bucks more and they work better,
last longer than the cheap ones do. It is a good idea to slather plumbers
grease over the threads and then cap the hold down nits with a glob of
plumbers putty. The plastic caps don't do much more than look good and the
putty and grease helps keep the corrosion from boogering the threads.

--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.

On May 6, 1:20*am, "Roger Shoaf" wrote:

You should also caulk almost all the way around the base.

I would think perhaps not.

"Thomas" wrote in message
...
On May 6, 1:20 am, "Roger Shoaf" wrote:

You should also caulk almost all the way around the base.

I would think perhaps not.

This way anything that might dribble down the front of the bowl does not
seep under via capillary action.

YMMV

--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.

On Wed, 5 May 2010 19:50:12 -0700 (PDT), brit
wrote:

The water is flushing out the tank, but it is not draining out of the
bowl. When it does drain out the bowl is drains really really slow.
There is not any pressure behind the drain. I read information about
the siphon maybe be clugged.I do not understand how to fix it. What do
I need to do to fix my toliet?

Thank you!

Read this: http://home.howstuffworks.com/toilet2.htm

Sounds like a clogged line. Use a snake as others have suggested.

On Wed, 5 May 2010 19:50:12 -0700 (PDT), brit
wrote:

The water is flushing out the tank, but it is not draining out of the
bowl. When it does drain out the bowl is drains really really slow.
There is not any pressure behind the drain. I read information about
the siphon maybe be clugged.I do not understand how to fix it. What do
I need to do to fix my toliet?

Thank you!

See: http://www.wikihow.com/Fix-a-Slow-Toilet

If you are on a septic system, use caution with the acid method.
Either take the bowl outside and use the acid or neutralize the acid
before flushing into the septic.

On Wed, 5 May 2010 19:50:12 -0700 (PDT), brit
wrote Re toilet issues:

The water is flushing out the tank, but it is not draining out of the
bowl. When it does drain out the bowl is drains really really slow.
There is not any pressure behind the drain. I read information about
the siphon maybe be clugged.I do not understand how to fix it. What do
I need to do to fix my toliet?

Thank you!

Is this an "issue" for you or a "problem". Since it seems to be an
issue rather than a problem, don't worry about it.
--
Work is the curse of the drinking class.

On May 5, 10:50*pm, brit wrote:
The water is flushing out the tank, but it is not draining out of the
bowl. When it does drain out the bowl is drains really really slow.
There is not any pressure behind the drain. I read information about
the siphon maybe be clugged.I do not understand how to fix it. What do
I need to do to fix my toliet?

Thank you!



How old is the toilet in question ?

Have you installed a new float valve or tank baffles to reduce the
toilet's water consumption...

Older toilets are designed to use more water when they flush
and they NEED that water to start the siphon to clear the bowl...

Trying to adapt an older toilet to use less water without the right
parts will mean an underfilled bowl (which means not enough water
is in the bowl to start with) and not releasing enough water from
the tank into the bowl during the flushing process...

You should either replace the toilet with a newer one if you are
trying to reduce your water consumption OR seek out a plumber
with the required skills and experience in converting older toilets
to low consumption...

~~ Evan