We have had a Bosch dishwasher for several years now, and I swear it
used to dry dishes quite well. I mean, you'd get a bit of residual
water in the dimple bottom of an overturned glass, but nothing major.

In the past few months, it has degraded to leaving large amounts of
condensation on the sides of the dishwasher and almost all the dishes
are wet.

From some research, I find that there is no "dryer" per se in the
unit. The final water temps for this dishwasher are supposed to be
around 160F, and the heat absorbed by the dishes is supposed to make
them dry once the water is pumped out. We haven't changed our water
heater settings in years, and I don't believe the dishwasher has an
auxiliary heater, so I can't understand why the gradual loss of drying
ability.

I know these are supposed to be energy conserving "Euro" style
appliances, but warm + moist doesn't equal sanitary in my books.

Anybody been down this path and know how I can get this unit back to
working correctly? While I am disappointed with the drying issue, I
am not willing to accept the "land fill" solution quite yet.

Thanks in advance

On May 5, 9:05*pm, gwandsh wrote:
We have had a Bosch dishwasher for several years now, and I swear it
used to dry dishes quite well. *I mean, you'd get a bit of residual
water in the dimple bottom of an overturned glass, but nothing major.

In the past few months, it has degraded to leaving large amounts of
condensation on the sides of the dishwasher and almost all the dishes
are wet.

From some research, I find that there is no "dryer" per se in the
unit. *The final water temps for this dishwasher are supposed to be
around 160F, and the heat absorbed by the dishes is supposed to make
them dry once the water is pumped out. *We haven't changed our water
heater settings in years, and I don't believe the dishwasher has an
auxiliary heater, so I can't understand why the gradual loss of drying
ability.

I know these are supposed to be energy conserving "Euro" style
appliances, but warm + moist doesn't equal sanitary in my books.

Anybody been down this path and know how I can get this unit back to
working correctly? *While I am disappointed with the drying issue, I
am not willing to accept the "land fill" solution quite yet.

Thanks in advance

You'll have to explain how the water gets to 160F if there is no
auxiliary heater. Tap water at 160F would be scalding hot.
You''ll have to open the door during the middle of the cycle and stick
a thermometer into the wash water and see if it is hot or not and then
proceed from there.

On May 5, 10:05�pm, gwandsh wrote:
We have had a Bosch dishwasher for several years now, and I swear it
used to dry dishes quite well. �I mean, you'd get a bit of residual
water in the dimple bottom of an overturned glass, but nothing major.

In the past few months, it has degraded to leaving large amounts of
condensation on the sides of the dishwasher and almost all the dishes
are wet.

From some research, I find that there is no "dryer" per se in the
unit. �The final water temps for this dishwasher are supposed to be
around 160F, and the heat absorbed by the dishes is supposed to make
them dry once the water is pumped out. �We haven't changed our water
heater settings in years, and I don't believe the dishwasher has an
auxiliary heater, so I can't understand why the gradual loss of drying
ability.

I know these are supposed to be energy conserving "Euro" style
appliances, but warm + moist doesn't equal sanitary in my books.

Anybody been down this path and know how I can get this unit back to
working correctly? �While I am disappointed with the drying issue, I
am not willing to accept the "land fill" solution quite yet.

Thanks in advance

first consumer reports its the worst reliable dishwasher sold.

My experience with BOSCH, near ANYTHING that needs fixed requires
disassembling the entire unit, only easily replaced part is the fill
valve everything else is in the bathtup parts are super expensive and
few service people work on them.

most likely Sears is the only service company in your area

you will likely find the cost of repair exceeds the cost of a new
dishwasher.

I replaced mine several years ago, whirpool is far better than bosch,
parts and service common and easily availble at reasonable cost.

On Wed, 5 May 2010 20:21:27 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

Bosch dishwasher
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first consumer reports its the worst reliable dishwasher sold.


That is simply NOT true. Consumer Reports rates Bosch in the top half
of all brands for reliability. In fact, in their most recent test,
the top rated dishwasher is a Bosch. Please don't post made up
statistics. I currently have a 5 year old Bosch that is the quietest
dish washer I have ever owned. And, it has never had a problem.

On May 6, 9:50�am, wrote:
On Wed, 5 May 2010 20:21:27 -0700 (PDT), "

wrote:
Bosch dishwasher
snip
�first consumer reports its the worst reliable dishwasher sold.

That is simply NOT true. �Consumer Reports rates Bosch in the top half
of all brands for reliability. �In fact, in their most recent test,
the top rated dishwasher is a Bosch. �Please don't post made up
statistics. �I currently have a 5 year old Bosch that is the quietest
dish washer I have ever owned. �And, it has never had a problem.

Then its rating has changed TOTALLY in the last couple years. consumer
reported it first in cleaning ability and dead last in reability

On Thu, 6 May 2010 13:40:07 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On May 6, 9:50?am, wrote:
On Wed, 5 May 2010 20:21:27 -0700 (PDT), "

wrote:
Bosch dishwasher
snip
?first consumer reports its the worst reliable dishwasher sold.

That is simply NOT true. ?Consumer Reports rates Bosch in the top half
of all brands for reliability. ?In fact, in their most recent test,
the top rated dishwasher is a Bosch. ?Please don't post made up
statistics. ?I currently have a 5 year old Bosch that is the quietest
dish washer I have ever owned. ?And, it has never had a problem.

Then its rating has changed TOTALLY in the last couple years. consumer
reported it first in cleaning ability and dead last in reability
I just looked it up yesterday right before I posted my response.
Hotpoint and Whirlpool were best at 8% having needed a repair between
2005 and 2009. Bosch was at 10%. GE and Amana were 11%. Maytag 13%
and LG had a whopping 23% needing repair. I skipped a bunch but the
range was 8% to 23% with Bosch at 10%.

wrote in message
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On Wed, 5 May 2010 20:21:27 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

Bosch dishwasher
snip
first consumer reports its the worst reliable dishwasher sold.


That is simply NOT true. Consumer Reports rates Bosch in the top half
of all brands for reliability. In fact, in their most recent test,
the top rated dishwasher is a Bosch. Please don't post made up
statistics. I currently have a 5 year old Bosch that is the quietest
dish washer I have ever owned. And, it has never had a problem.

I don't have statistics, but there have been many complaints here about
them. My local dealer will sell you one if you want it, but will not put
them on the showroom floor because of the reliability problems. He says they
do wash well though. Of course, every brand can put out a bad one or a
great one at times compared to most off thier assembly line. They can also
get better or worse with time as engineering changes take place.

On Wed, 5 May 2010 19:05:14 -0700 (PDT), gwandsh
wrote:

We have had a Bosch dishwasher for several years now, and I swear it
used to dry dishes quite well. I mean, you'd get a bit of residual
water in the dimple bottom of an overturned glass, but nothing major.

In the past few months, it has degraded to leaving large amounts of
condensation on the sides of the dishwasher and almost all the dishes
are wet.

From some research, I find that there is no "dryer" per se in the
unit. The final water temps for this dishwasher are supposed to be
around 160F, and the heat absorbed by the dishes is supposed to make
them dry once the water is pumped out. We haven't changed our water
heater settings in years, and I don't believe the dishwasher has an
auxiliary heater, so I can't understand why the gradual loss of drying
ability.

I know these are supposed to be energy conserving "Euro" style
appliances, but warm + moist doesn't equal sanitary in my books.

Anybody been down this path and know how I can get this unit back to
working correctly? While I am disappointed with the drying issue, I
am not willing to accept the "land fill" solution quite yet.

Thanks in advance

At some age point, it makes more sense to replace an appliance, maybe
after 8-10 years, than undergo an expensive repair. Have you pulled
the DW out yet to take a look? What component moves the air inside
the DW? Got a VOM? Check for blown fuse, bad fan, burned out heating
element, etc. There are a few troubleshooting appliance guides out
there to help organize and speed up the detective work. Good luck.

The service with Bosch is this. They are built inside out, with no
easy access to do anything BUT replace the solenoid fill valve.
Everything else requres COMPLETE disassembly, which can take hours,
and parts are expensive. Mine had a board failure at just under 1 year
old, board 500 bucks.

Fortunately it was still under warranty, a month later the water level
assembly went bad, hundreds of bucks in parts and labor, covered under
warranty.

6 months later a board failed again, to the trash it went.

best washing dishwasher i ever had, and the most troubles too, it was
under 2 years old when i called it dead

the only plus of this? they are designed to never leak, they cant
overfill.

but bend over if it breaks